New Order - Dreams Never End (Live in New York City 1981)

[@Stay_at_home_Astronaut81]

I was listening to this song when I decided to come out to my friends and family. Thanks, New Order.

[@christopherharter]

The human animal is a quite a creature...imagine you are Barney and Hooky...you watch and revisit the truly transcendent things you did together, and cannot find a way to forgive each other...just a terrible shame for the rest of us...thank you both for the incredible gifts

[@igotdarkaether4813]

Well said mate

[@EdMore808]

Animal says it best. Listen to the opening monologue by Charlton Heston from the original planet of the apes. It speaks to what you are saying. Hard to say what’s worse - hating each other over money or artistic differences 🤷🏼‍♂️ Just seems so lame after all they not only survived but created together. I’d like to see em play Sunrise Live ✌🏼🎶

[@carlgillespie5161]

You are an idiot.

[@alvaronmv]

what happened between them?

[@jumofi]

@@alvaronmv kkkk

[@red.5475]

The early New Order material is absolutely amazing.

[@steve261brown]

All great until Hooky left.

[@scottsmith4854]

Still has that Joy Division feel to it.

[@mezsmith]

@@steve261brown well said , how can there be new order without hooky a original member of joy division , sad what has happened between them ,friends since 11yo

[@lordlollops1]

Hooky wrote this the weekend after Ian passed , pure determination

[@getez1]

I love to hear that 80's rusty New Order sound finding its own way pos Joy Division. They have created such a unique style. Thanks for the Friday morning gift.

[@NickandSilkeCreate]

Exactly! "Friday morning gift" is so true.

[@willowufgood261]

Me too friend

[@fatheremmet2003]

Movement is a massively underated timeless masterpiece.

[@ShadowWizard123]

Agreed. Power corruption& lies is equally great.

[@keithh5656]

Couldn't agree more

[@downtown0032000]

Truth on Movement needs Ian Curtis' vulnerable sounding vocals

[@Cyraxxxxxxxsssstylus]

Probably NOs best....

[@beaware6487]

Wrong. Movement was meant to be a masterpiece but the recording was an absolute disaster. Listen to the Peel sessions of the same songs and you will understand how the songs we're meant to sound.

[@nonconnahordeath]

'Movement' is criminally underrated. I love the dual guitar interplay between Bernard and Gillian in this era.

[@mckennuhhhhhhhhh]

it’s so cool to hear the influence that joy division’s sound had on new order’s early music, but it’s hard to not imagine what it would’ve sounded like with ian in the mix. you can visibly see the pain or sense of loss on everyone’s faces still. the first few performances for them, especially in america, where they should’ve been with ian all along, must’ve been rough. but like this song says… dreams never end.

[@mckennuhhhhhhhhh]

also, 0:44 onwards is heavenly.

[@ignitedfw]

Saw Hooky last night in Dallas. Opened with New Dawn Fades. Dang, brilliant.

[@faschuck]

I’ve long found this song a very fitting and appropriate beginning to not just an album, but to an entirely new era of the band’s history-a metamorphosis, if you will. What’s more, it’s also a not so thinly veiled tribute to their fallen friend and bandmate, Ian Curtis. A true statement of perseverance if ever there was one…

[@ubellubo]

Joy Division / New Order were such an interesting band. They were such basic musicians and none of them could really sing that well, yet somehow their music is mesmerising. One of the greatest bands of all time.

[@Zwia.]

Hook is considered a very good bassist who created some iconic bass lines and Morris is like a human drum machine.

[@pungol36]

imagine saying ian curtis couldn't sing

[@ubellubo]

@ Technically Ian Curtis is not a "good" singer. He has a limited range. No training. He is not versatile. What Ian Curtis does works in the context of Joy Division and punk /post-punk. This is not a controversial take. Don't get me wrong. I love the way Ian Curtis sounds, but that is because of Joy Divisions artistic choices. They created a context that worked for Joy Division and helped them created a unique sound. He is not alone. There are quite a few singer, especially in British post-punk who have are equally limited singing voices . Morrissey for example or Ian Brown from the Stone Roses. Both great artists, who use their voices in an interesting way.

[@valerialcc16]

my favorite song of all time. the three most precious minutes i choose to live every time

[@MoultrieGeek]

It's great seeing Hooky so young! Great performance.

[@michaelwilson2340]

And not angry. It really bothers me that Hooky, who's my favorite musician, will probably never come back to New Order. I think if Rob Gretton hadn't died in the late 90's he could have pricked some egos and helped straighten things out. If not as their manager, at least the guy that believed in Joy Division and gave them a chance.

[@michaelmaterne]

Nobody cares... but it's still my favorite of all.

[@paulgoody9342]

Mine too, and Dreams Never End tattoo

[@jayshreenarshi686]

Definitely one of mine and I only discovered it a few weeks ago

[@michaelmaterne]

@@jayshreenarshi686 Personally, I think I bought the album three or four years after its release 😉

[@anodyne57]

A gem. I still think this is probably the best song they ever did. The way it begins slowly and transitions...the guitars and bass fusing into a distinct voice...growing more and more furious-still gets me. Intro, main body, crescendo...I've listened to this repeatedly and never tired of it.

[@michaelburk9171]

I was trying to express what you explained very well. The song changes from having a more Joy Division discordance to a smoother flowing drive. Amazing

[@Lethoscorpia]

Of all the bands/artists I love from the 80's New Order is by far the one I still listen to today. Awesome song, loved Movement.

[@deborahpaley21]

me too

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Wow, I had no idea Peter Hook ever sang nor that Gillian Gilbert ever played guitar.

[@maksymlem6117]

Taras Shevchenko! What a wonderful concert!!

[@emanuel6349]

I never get tired of listening to this album since I first heard back in '81.

[@chipaway]

joy division/new order in collared shirts and ties is always my favorite

[@SandroMassarani]

One of my favorite songs of all time. Masterpiece.

[@Fac323JQ]

Go on Hooky.......was lucky enough to see you sing this live..back in the day....

[@trapezoidspangle934]

I worshipped this album when I was 13. They were my heroes.

[@nazurin5982]

They still are

[@PrimitiveInTheExtreme]

Great song, great concert.

[@ksodz1397]

Movement is the best NO album, fight me

[@markshadows3667]

Agreed

[@janethperez8504]

Power , Corruption and Lies .

[@lordofmemes6535]

It is

[@qwj68boots]

where shall we meet?

[@qwj68boots]

@@janethperez8504 Yeah. No doubt.

[@samtaylor8336]

Just what I needed waking up to our first day below freezing.

[@DeluxeStudioVisual]

The whole show is an absolute masterpiece. Thank you New Order, thank you for such beautiful music !

[@redcoat4ever323]

Just effing amazing this! This was the first video (BetaMax actually) of live performance i ever saw of NEwOrder. Was 1982 or early 1983. It blew me away. Fan now 40 yrs.

[@oleo007]

It's absolutely amazing, this song brings me joy!!

[@rafaelsida5155]

Yes indeed!!

[@noraabdelmoumene7293]

Avec ce son je m’envole et j’oublie tout 🌹✨✨🌹…! Merciiii🤩🤩

[@darynka111]

This is my favorite song of NO

[@EleectricMe]

Such a beautiful song!!!

[@rivermansky63]

Bernard always looked as if he was playing guitar at gun point during this time

[@glenwaverley23]

It's an incredible style/musical sensibility - that has served him well - though you must admit?

[@rivermansky63]

@@glenwaverley23 oh indeed

[@irisscot101]

'Him screaming'? What a treat.

[@R0b3rtao]

40 years! Great performance from my favorite band!

[@deusvmachina]

_A fractured smile that soon dies._

[@erickgabriellimadacosta1845]

I Watch all the shows of the NY 1981 Movement. My favourite is Procession and obviously, Dreams Never End and Everything's Gone Green.

[@DeluxeStudioVisual]

When the guitars converge at 0:43, here comes the badass comeback of former Joy Division : « Dreams never end »

[@manoel7380]

I absolutely love this song, JD & New Order...awesome!

[@meimeiparker]

Thanks for keeping the dream alive with your iconic music💖

[@rodrigohernandez225]

hope everyone has a great weekend 😎

[@mariarl3303]

That drummer ….he is the rock that holds this together… where is credit when it is due????

[@Mike-1000]

Personally I feel that Peter Hook's bass was the real backbone. Stephen Morris was superb on drums though.

[@mariarl3303]

@@Mike-1000 I agree ..

[@mariarl3303]

@@Mike-1000 and by the way I will always agree when a fellow human is kind and articulate… the word “superb” separates one from the masses.

[@Mike-1000]

@@mariarl3303 Haha, thank you. Only a few days ago I was listening to some tracks from the Movement album.

[@mariarl3303]

@@Mike-1000 OMG, TY … cool graphics … I thought I was destined to be the 21st century Raymond Loewy .:: I was accepted into the graphics program at parsons school of design in nyc after grade 12 - parsons SD in …Greenwich village A graphic professors pulled me aside after 6 months and pointed me to another art program… I was told that excelled with the vision and cerebral creativity but that I lacked the fine motor skills to become a graphic designer..: m I was also told to stay away from endeavors needing fine motor skills

[@rrus73]

Прекрасно и немного грустно. Спасибо ребята.

[@MrERLoner]

This is the Taras Shevchenko concert. I have this on VHS somewhere..they walk.off stage while the sequencer plays their encore

[@keithbrian7129]

Forty plus years on and this still rocks 🙏🏽

[@davidellis5141]

Peter on vocals ! 😎

[@DavidJSullivan8]

God love Hook.

[@chrismarsh8162]

Hooky to the cameraman 'I'm over here'

[@emmyluvscake]

Still has been & always will be my fav. ❤

[@Claudio-dl6ug]

One of the best songs ever made.

[@pantherman16]

First 48 seconds all Joy Division, then New Order takes over. Brilliant!

[@andremelo1876]

Um som sensacional, simplesmente uma obra prima ;)

[@saw141]

This is the best version of the song. Incredible music.

[@brucelee-wo5ge]

Absolutely all time!

[@Pres-ic2tk]

The bassist adds gravitas to the song with gritty vocals.

[@tarasshevchenko3566]

Dreams do never end, starting to find there way…….

[@DeluxeStudioVisual]

Album opener and show opener, where they were supposed to play with Ian a year before What an hommage to « insight » : guess your dreams always end

[@richardfrodin4293]

It's interesting to think that even on this tour they still weren't sure who Ian's replacement as vocalist would be - it could have been Hooky!

[@mariaisabelpalacios5564]

Me encanta esta agrupación!!!!!

[@FentBlunt420]

Sounds good

[@itsukizy]

barney is absolutely zooted off his mind i love him LOL

[@itsukawayne]

Movement is the Best album of New Order

[@GarryShepherdDreamGazePostPunk]

Some fkn haunting lyrics in there - Farewell your Love, your Soul, Farewell to your Soul 😢 🎸🔥🎹🎸🔥

[@johnmille2267]

Barney gave Gillian almost threatening, stern look, every time she hit a bum note or miss something. It must have been hard for her to get through the early phase of New Order.

[@red.5475]

Which I find hilarious, since Bernard isn't exactly Eddie Ban Halen. 😂

[@calcadao]

After that she goes to the keyboards😅

[@silenceblue82]

The early pearls!

[@Scotty-P]

Magic.

[@robertmata684]

This performance is on one of their official release DVD's

[@dannyluci9079]

Love this song, and i had a big crush on Peter Hook lol...

[@danieluncles2234]

beautiful absoluetly love

[@Procopius1980]

Release more live versions of the The Him!

[@ianwilliams2387]

Hooky true Manchester lad

[@James-pq3qq]

One of the few times that bassist Peter Hook sang...he did a fabulous job too. Love Bernard Somers...but wished they had given Hooky more vocals...

[@happiness8535]

The intro is very Joy Division then it transitions into a Cure style pop song. But you can tell by the end of the song there is a lot of pain and this is not the direction the band wants to go. We are fortunate the band had a lot of introspection and was willing to try new concepts.

[@alanhansmannkurtcobain8811]

Sweet.

[@benedictocurillanarias9279]

Cuando no había nada en los ochentas,,las música,se hacía y se hizo,,bien

[@stefanoforcellini4875]

[@tomsimsen3898]

Peter Hook Rocks!

[@amarudistri9575]

hooky the best!!!!

[@mariarl3303]

The drums are the jugular lifeline here.. does any one else hear this ? 3:17 .. the lead singer was not a performer.:: but the reins handed to him when IC committed suicide.: still it seems the drummer is holding to his this together

[@timettinger2017]

Augusto, you get it! Early New Order (and there are 3 phases of that!) rules! Hard to keep it up tho'!

[@saw141]

I love Hook and the Boys.

[@MarlauNezti]

Hooky singin is life

[@bluemcdaniel99]

Never knew hook sang this.

[@brianof97]

I’m today years old 😂

[@Sporkonafork1]

@@brianof97same lol

[@shaungreer3350]

NEW ORDER !!

[@trapezoidspangle934]

‘Yesterday I felt so old I felt like I could die..’

[@ninetyminutestd]

Yeah, I hear it..

[@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u]

@@ninetyminutestd This one came first

[@ninetyminutestd]

​@@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u yep, I know. Back in the 80s I remember talk of inbetween days being a slight new order ripoff.

[@combatpop8203]

フッキー最高‼︎

[@starmartir]

I always wonder what if Ian….

[@shack7631]

Yep. This song is pure Joy Division. We can only imagine what Ian Curtis could have done with those vocals.

[@lavieenrose5954]

You’re not alone in thinking that 🖤

[@rafaelsida5155]

Me too, huge sigh...

[@gavinkerslake]

Peter looks so young

[@Satsuma1]

Cause he was 24 in '81

[@wolf1303]

fucking great song! Love New Order

[@ericortega]

NO posting videos with Hooky? Maybe ice thawing?

[@howardliebeskraft703]

Does this Sound like the cure or does the cure Sound like this, im confused in the timelines lol

[@patriciosotelo9007]

This sounds very cure, but, Dreams never end was written in 1980, the cure began to sound like this in 1984/85. The song sounds very In Between Days

[@anodyne57]

It's funny that as time marches on, many bands whose music bore no resemblance to one another at the time, in retrospect seem to share very similar techniques. It's the nature of proximity in time, and the fact that of course everyone (bands) was listening to each other, borrowing and stealing, and co-inspiring. Few years back, I noticed how similar some of the rhythmic mannerisms of DEVO and Talking Heads sounded curiously alike. At the same time, their whole musical programs couldn't have been more different.

[@jjjalistair6880]

So the full gig video (unofficially posted) got pulled for copyright since these are out? This separated video format is far less enjoyable...

[@michaelburk9171]

At 46 seconds this song goes from sounding more like Joy Division (reminiscent of Shes lost control) and in to the New Order sound. Also sounds like the Cure borrowed this for in between days.

[@beaware6487]

For the purists this is a gem.

[@herchelleonwood7463]

great song, why is this not on Substance ?

[@Nick-ne4ln]

Because it was not released as a single, substance is a compilation of the bands singles and b-sides released up to that point.

[@herchelleonwood7463]

@@Nick-ne4ln ty , i have more questions, how often did peter sing lead vocals, i believe Peter did lead on a version of Ceremony.

[@Nick-ne4ln]

@@herchelleonwood7463Peter sings lead quite a few times live from 1980-81 before they settled on Bernard for vox. As for recordings, Hook sings lead on Joy Divisions “Interzone”, Dreams Never End, and Doubts Even Here (the latter also being on movement).

[@herchelleonwood7463]

@@Nick-ne4ln ty again, i believe hooky should of been allowed to sing some songs for New Order, many groups had success with 2 lead singers,

[@hazelpromusiccool1411]

Is a good band new wave tthat joy division

[@georgejpg]

Their only New Wave song is LWTUA...

[@s.y4580]

@@georgejpg Isolation exists

[@georgejpg]

@@s.y4580 Ok, I can see that. But 2 new wave songs doesn't make them a new wave band.

[@s.y4580]

@@georgejpg Yeah no they aren’t, I don’t even know what the original comment is saying. I’m just saying they have a few new-wave songs

[@hdufort]

Movement is one of my favourite albums of the era. Apart from what I consider to be one annoying filler (ICB), the songs are original, melancholic and curiously catchy. As a side note, Peter's voice got better over time. 😜

[@pjcmusicoutlet]

I personally think ICB is great.

[@Muskie_57]

Yeah icb fits pretty well ngl

[@JD-bm1sm]

🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@DonejMandrakes]

What the heck is Bernard looking at?

[@JJørgensen]

In the begining of NO Bernard often dislikes how Gillian plays guitar. I noticed it at many of their early shows, he looked at her every moment when she missed some tone/timing etc

[@DonejMandrakes]

@@JJørgensen Ah, thanks!

[@tarasshevchenko3566]

Or at a wonky table leg, as hooky so memorably said.

[@cleaningmyroom1000]

ur mum

[@anodyne57]

@@JJørgensen I'm sure that compelled her to play even better...in his mind.

[@deborahpaley21]

I see from the comments that I am amongst my people.

[@rodrigoalbarenga1015]

In betwen days? The cure?