New Orleans Removing Confederate Monuments, Under Police Guard

--New Orleans, Louisiana begins the process of dismantling four monuments from the Confederate and Jim Crow eras
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[@EvenFlow406]

They belong in a museum!

[@robm6645]

If you know of any white supremacy museums(in the same vein as holocaust museums) accepting donations you're free to contact the New Orleans city council about them

[@cyberash3000]

EvenFlow406 my grandpa took a nazi flag when he marched to liberate Italy. The war museum wouldn't take it so she gave it to an army thing who used it by burning it on a bonfire.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

Peckerwoods belong on trial for treason.

[@BigtimeBigA]

Unel Mitchell You can't wait till statue in Jackson square goes down? You mean the one of the 7th president of the US Andrew Jackson? It's not even under any scrutiny.

[@Decrepit_Productions]

Sleep Deprived College Kid, I'm totally with you on this one. The past, no matter how repulsive to "modern" sensibilities, should be preserved, both for artist reasons (if any) and so that the dangers some of these objects once represented are not swept under the rug and thus forgotten/ignored over time.

[@BasedSif]

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[@bruhmann719]

If the obelisks are to be removed they should atleast move them somewhere like a museum where it can have a plaque to explain its history and significance in the past. Because it is very important inorder to stifle racial supremacy for kids to learn about the past of where they are from. History must not be wiped because that does not fix the problem. By observing and critiquing history it goes towards improving the current lives of all people in the south of all races.

[@iamedbytes]

Giuseppe J :History should be preserved, warts and all. A museum or equivalent should hold these monuments.

[@ShadeOnTheUtube]

They are being moved to museums. -.- Progressives and liberals are not opposed to learning from the past the way conservatives are.

[@iamedbytes]

Wilder: The City of Palmyra, the Buddhist Statues, The Sphinx. I am glad that we are in the company of the decorators.

[@paradiso123]

They should restore it, without the plaque, or with the plaque and another plaque explaining how that's no longer America.

[@BigtimeBigA]

I live in New Orleans and can give you a local perspective. The one monument that is discussed here is fairly unknown and was purposely relocated decades ago into a fairly hidden spot. When the argument for the historical monuments is debated which one of the main proponents is a black baptist preacher, the argument centers around the fact that this is part of the history and remembering the wrong is the best way to not repeat it just like you have concentration camps made into museums in Europe. The average local who supports these monuments have never seen or spoken of the obelisk monument since it was basically hidden, the main argument is for the huge beautiful bronze statues to people like a Robert E Lee that sit in prominent areas and are iconic landmarks. Yes, these people are historical figures for the south, but nobody is looking at them as landmarks supporting racism. Many people bring up the fact Jefferson has his own memorial in DC, yet he was a racist slave owner as well as many founding fathers. Now I'm not debating that there are no racists, after all this is the south, but they are not part of this debate, they have not had a racist organization come out publicly for the monuments, nor have I even heard the mention of any racists in the local debate over this which has spanned 2 years and several town hall type meeting where both sides are very culturally diverse. I think it was a little irresponsible that you covered this without mentioning any of the arguments in support to keep monuments or how diverse both sides are, you made it seem like seal team 6 had to covertly remove racist monuments from deep inside a racist haven. They went overboard to protect workers but I don't believe anything had happened to suggest this level of preparation was necessary, they were just being overcautious.

[@JANELLEFUCKINGPIERZINA]

Big A comment reported for stupidity.

[@jaywasd]

So is the argument that if we don't keep statues that celebrate racism humans will forget about American slavery and the American civil war? Is that what you mean when you say "remembering the wrong is the best way to not repeat it"? So if we get rid of racist statues...it's gonna cause people to start being more racist? I'm just trying to clarify the position.

[@jonpaul3433]

LostTranslation85 Well reasoned points, sounds like a leftist I could actually have a conversation with. What they are trying to do IS punitive, it's not enough to win the war, or to paint all white people in the South as pro slavery (when in truth this was a VERY small minority), they have to erase any trace of Southern Pride. Secession was not ILLEGAL at the time it was done, so this argument of "treason" doesn't have an actual leg to stand on... unless your goal is the slander of an already defeated opponent. The supreme court ruling that claimed it was illegal to secede was made after the Civil War was over with. What they are doing now is pointing the finger at the South (which is traditionally Republican these days) as a way to divert attention from Democratic stronghold areas (Chicago, New York, Detroit, California) where REAL inequality between blacks and whites exists. Make the Conservatives in the South into your boogeyman, then ignore the fact that the city where Obama came from has descended into a black on black crime wave. Label Trump racist then ignore that New York (where Hillary was Senator) has the most segregated school system in the nation (and where Kalief Browder was unjustly thrown into jail). California was a BLUE state when Rodney King was assaulted. For the South they point out historic monuments, or flags from the past... or made up events like Ferguson. Its sad that these people are so focused on erasing HISTORY that they cannot see actual racism happening in front of their eyes (the Democratic efforts to keep black people in a victimized mentality so they will vote Democrat).

[@Mephistahpheles]

+Big A Nice synopsis. I have mixed feelings about it. Sure, I abhor what those monuments stood for, but pretending it never happened isn't productive, either. Were it my neighborhood, I'd recommend putting new Historical Plaques alongside the existing ones, explaining how/why/what is totally offensive about it. But, it's not my neighborhood....so, I'd never consider telling ya'all what ya aughta do.

[@jonpaul3433]

aaronpolitical By your views then the Lincoln Memorial should be pulled down. Do ANY research into Lincoln's plans for blacks after the emancipation proclamation. He wanted them to leave and start their own colony. He didn't think they should have the same social or political rights as whites. That by definition makes him a racist. So now what?

[@dianeowen5258]

Good. Way to go New Orleans.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Step 1: History Step 2: Forget Step 1: What were we doing here?

[@needmorezen365]

It's awful the kind of threats these guys are receiving. It was said that one guys car was blown up. The next monument to go is Robert E Lee. It's about time they remove these. They say they will all be gone by the end of the yr. Hope the guys stay safe. One can only hope for a more unified future.

[@prototype450]

They belong in a museum

[@gisawslonim9716]

There definitely should be a museum for the entire South (in whichever State will be decided upon) which will house everything dealing with the hateful enslavement period, as there are museums of the Holocaust in Europe and Israel. And schoolchildren should be taken to view what slavery was all about, to learn, to experience in order not ever to repeat such an evil again.

[@rebeccahavard3897]

it's about time to let go of the past. and the racism too

[@HoneybeeApiary]

Ricky Spanish dang... whats wrong with black men?

[@iamedbytes]

Barnaby ap Robert: You do know that you don't need a penis to give a woman an orgasm don't you? Just saying.

[@iamedbytes]

Barnaby ap Robert : Talk about racist. Imagine, you are a normal black man. A woman starts hitting on and now she is lying naked on the bed. You take off your pants and she says. "that's it?" Whatever happens next is not going to be good.

[@w5winston]

Eww!

[@lactarius7781]

"Those who do not remember history are condemned to live through it again" these monuments should not be destroyed, but rather be put in a museum.

[@Aanthanur]

When i first heard about the removal i was like, bah who cares about monuments, then i saw the racist shit written on them and was absolutely baffled that they stood there until now.

[@HomeBummingit]

The 13th amendment doesn't ban slavery, it codify is. Slavery is alive and well in America as punishment of a crime.

[@Tychoxi]

How racist of them to point out these memorials are racist!

[@Smith-sz9nt]

Good

[@wizzerd229]

Mike Lofky are you sad your civil war participation trophy is getting taken away?

[@Smith-sz9nt]

Mike Lofky Confederate flag represents slavery.

[@IMDRanged]

All traitors to the US must go.

[@Jaded_Jester]

Mike Lofky - FFS man, just because the founding father owned slaves... DOES NOT MEAN IT'S OKAY! Mike, please join us in the 21st century.

[@BigtimeBigA]

Sean Ryan Learn American history you say? Abraham Lincoln repeatedly stated his war was caused by taxes only, and not by slavery, at all. "My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861. "I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year. There is no proof of Lincoln ever declaring the war was fought to abolish slavery, and without such an official statement, the war-over-slavery teaching remains a complete lie and offensive hate speech that divides Americans, as is being done now by the media and politicians regarding the Confederate flag in South Carolina. Slavery was NOT abolished; just the name was changed to sharecropper with over 5 million Southern whites and 3 million Southern blacks working on land stolen by Wall Street bankers.

[@coolrog7564]

Slavery in the 'United States of America" 1789 -1865. 76 Years not four hundred like everyone claims. The United States had the shortest span of slavery in history yet has to bear all the responsibility for its legacy. That's gratitude for ya.

[@virgochic8415]

coolrog7564 1 or 1000 years still wrong

[@coolrog7564]

The key factor here is it was an inherited institution that it ended as quickly as it could. You don't pay for the sins of the father or previous owner. Stop and think it through.

[@WindBelmont3rd]

if you remove history, you can never learn from it and therefore are doomed to repeat it.

[@iamedbytes]

History isn't always pretty or nice but if we do not preserve these monuments we will lose a piece of ourselves. Put them in a museum where we can put them into perspective. If we do not remember the past we will be doomed to repeat it.

[@orangeziggy599]

Some history needs to be studied and learned from, but if that history lesson happens to stand in the center of your town, proudly placed atop a pedestal, this has a big psychological impact on that town's citizens, such that those who are proud of one's ignorant past, become more proud when looking upon said monument. And those who had ancestors who were slaves, feel demeaned in the face of said proud people; thus creating a continuous loop of antagonism. New Orleans is already dependent on tourism and the image and brand it sells, add to that the rising sea level, sinking coast, and disappearing land mass and what you have is a city who needs to rebrand itself in order to survive.

[@emperater]

'These Confederate symbols are an embarrassment, particularly as we are a Norther state'- The Simpsons s14 ep 3

[@rb032682]

It's long overdue. Better late than never.

[@picklerick4493]

This is wrong we need to keep them up to remind us of what we must avoid for future generations.

[@ArchlordZer0]

Keeping those monuments only glorifies their beliefs. You can remind people by teaching them properly.

[@Direblade11]

Lightbringer So the Colloseum should be torn down so as to not glorify gladiatorial battles too, yeah?

[@ArchlordZer0]

So you wouldn't tear down statues of Hitler and would have kept the Berlin Wall?

[@Direblade11]

Lightbringer The Berlin wall no because that's not a historical monument. I'd keep Hitler statues though (or at least be okay with them being in museums) because destroying historical landmarks is destroying the proof we have that history exists. Yeah Hitler's worse than ISIS but he should be remembered for that, not erased from history.

[@ArchlordZer0]

That's poor logic as a monument doesn't give you the context of the history, but simply a grandiose representation of that individual/beliefs. You're using false equivalence to make a point. The Coliseum is ancient history. People aren't advocating for gladiatorial battles in this day and age. Confederate and Nazi beliefs still exists and is celebrated in our society to which many a good many problems still stem from. Not only that, but they are still considered contemporary.

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

Generally I'm against trying to erase historical artefacts that don't align with modern values. But if something is explicitly racist, it seems reasonable to do so.

[@charlesmany9948]

I find it interesting that when I press the "thumbs up" on a pro tear them down comment (experimentally) , it registers but when I hit thumbs down on an anti tear them down comment, nothing happens

[@kevinsvideodump]

"On yesterday"? It's just "yesterday". No "on".

[@w5winston]

They belong buried at Andersonville.

[@okaro6595]

Reminds me of the Taleban.

[@BroadswordNii]

This is dope

[@youngn420]

HAHA I love it!

[@troyschulz2318]

I have mixed feelings.

[@lemeres2478]

from the sound of it, this was not even a 'muh great-grea grandpapy died fighting' thing. this was a straight 'we just don't like black people' thing. i can vaguely understand a veneration of soldiers that died.... but no, this was a simple 'we stand with those nice young men in white ghost hoods' monument.

[@TOSStarTrek]

Editing History is bad. You must keep the bad as well as the good.

[@RoccosVideos]

"On yesterday"

[@charlesmany9948]

If you are going to report on an incident and portray yourself as informed and unbiased, then at least do your homework. I neither condone racist, in any form, nor applaud those who do. That said, this act by New Orleans is I'll conceived, fiscally wasteful, and designed to placate historical revisionists who paint anything g to do with the War between the States with a broad brush that eschews the underlying truths behind those things they denounce, in short, pleasing those who shout the loudest, not those who present cogent argument. The statues targeted in this action are not all "icons of racism". I heartily support the removal of the first state because it was exactly that and I personally supported movements to have taken down. By contrast, the statue of Robert E. Lee is a monument to a superior graduate of the U. S. Military Academy at West Point who was Lincoln's first choice for commanding general of the Union Army, which he declined, not out of a hatred of blacks but a loyalty to his home state of Virginia which had sided with the Confederates. Through the long lense of history people ignore that this war began over states rights and loyalty to state, in many things, overroad national concerns due to distance and local necessity. What Next? Do we burn down Davis' home in MS because he lived there, it SOUNDS like hyperbole......but Is it?

[@rcherping8284]

I'm offended

[@robm6645]

Great

[@LuisMartinez-hk9qb]

good

[@mikemyers5665]

You like to take things down we care about . OK NO PROBLEM . MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE SOME THINGS DOWN YOU CARE ABOUT TOO. NO PROBLEM. 💀👻

[@Direblade11]

Mike Myers I think the Coliseum should go down because people were forced to fight to the death. Similar enough to slavery. (they might like that too though)

[@ScotlandZ7]

Had an add before the vid. Is the show back up for ad revenue?

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Ads have been back for two weeks now.

[@ScotlandZ7]

This is the first one I have seen so far, but good to know : )

[@DudeWhoSaysDeez]

Did David get a haircut? He looks different