NEW PHEV Prius vs Tesla Model 3 - Cost Analysis

[@Gjeebs]

Here is the video of the Model 3 vs the non plug in Prius: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJ2zk4lvhrJrn7M

[@tonypaca3015]

Am I wrong, or did you drove the Prius in economic mode during the twisted road test? There's a significant difference in these hybrids according to the driving modes you use

[@energyexecs]

...I just purchased a Prius Prime SE on September 30, 2023, Oakland, Ca. The color is Royal Blue. I recently received a compliment from a young guy and some double-take stares at the car. It's one of the best investments ever. I have driven a company car Chevy Volt. I leased a Ford C-Max. I have purchased many cars over my life. This is by far the best purchase ever. Thank you Toyota. Thanks Gjeebs.

[@jml9550]

Yeah I tried to convince my wife to get the Prius Prime, but she wanted a Lexus. Bought her a 2024 Lexus NX350H.

[@sherlockholmes6956]

Is it the plugin hybrid? Do you feel claustrophobic inside it?

[@energyexecs]

@@sherlockholmes6956 I am not a big tall guy (I'm about the size of Barry Sanders) so I have no problem with fitting into the new Prius Prime, nor my Ford CeMax before the Prime...easy peaseeee for me.

[@steeley6123]

@@sherlockholmes6956350H is just the regular hybrid, plug in is the 450h+. They have the same interior volume, though, similar to a RAV4.

[@nbagoats4819]

How is it better than the Volt?

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Love my Prius LE. $28k. Getting 64.7 mpg. People compliment it daily. They think it’s a Tesla lol. Put 10 gallons in it and drive over 600 miles. No waiting, no charging.

[@gaelguilloteau3179]

the new one or the past generation?

[@pedrohizzle2835]

@@gaelguilloteau3179 new

[@shwndh]

MPGe for a 1st gen Model S is 89 something combined. New Model 3 is 120 or so. 64 still ain’t bad for a gas car though.

[@dalejorgensen4603]

Where did you find one for that price?! How long did you have to wait? Our MI dealers everything presold. Nothing except used on the lot, some over 10 years old!

[@pedrohizzle2835]

@@dalejorgensen4603 WY

[@firefalcoln]

It’s kind of unfair IMO to not have a fully charged Prius prime in the comparison. This was more like a comparison of the regular new Prius with the model 3. And that regular Prius is much less expensive than the prime with the solar roof.

[@PMitchell106]

It's even worse because the Prime is a bit heavier and less efficient when the battery is depleted.

[@firefalcoln]

@@PMitchell106 agreed. That is why it’s better to have a traditional hybrid over a PHEV if one is not going to regularly charge the PHEV. This is why if one is evaluating a PHEV they should judge it based on the way the owner should use it (charged). And this video wasn’t comparing a regular Prius hybrid with a Tesla model 3. It was comparing a PHEV Prius with an uncharged battery with a model 3.

[@Qrail]

I agree. If he was going to make the video, both cars should have been at 100%. 👎🏻. He was quick to show the Tesla numbers, but only showed the gasoline on the Prius. A more accurate ending would have showed how many kWh were used by the Prius in EV mode, and the comparison would have been better. I have a Ford Fusion PHEV, so I look to videos to compare. In my case, I rented a Model 3 from Hertz for 5 days. I averaged 4.5 miles per kWh. For 5 days. My Ford as averaged 5.27 miles per kWh in EV mode, for 6 months, and it has ventilated seats. So the Tesla beat the Prius up the hill. It also drained more electrons out of the battery. Try again. This was an unfair test, and I won’t buy a Prius anyway. Finally, why no sound comparison in the Tesla? Did it lose, and you forgot to include it? Edited for spelling

[@pabloivan572011]

@@Qrailexactly, this guy is clearly a Tesla fanboy trying to make it “look” like the better choice for people

[@0alejandromontes0]

Wait 5-10 years, and that Prius will be immaculate with over 200,000 to 300,000 miles, while the Tesla will likely end up in a junkyard. 😅

[@zachcutler7342]

Bought Tesla Model Y for 78k in 2022… just traded it in for 32500… absolutely most atrocious resale value of all time… just picked up a Prius Prime to replace it as our 3rd car and driver. Toyota reliability and resale value blow all of these equations away! Couldn’t be happier with Prius!

[@Cakebattered]

Today Teslavs ate heavily discounted, while Prius Primes are getting dealer markups. So you seem to like buying cars that are in demand.

[@erikruggels9177]

So, had the prius been topped off at the start then it would have been a draw with home charging, or slightly in the prius favor, for total cost. Pretty impressive it manages such regular HEV economy numbers with a dead battery. It'd be great to see the figures you manage with the Prius topped off to get the PHEV benefit.

[@Gjeebs]

Yea I agree. I messed up there

[@marketsmove]

Agree, 100%. I got to the end and then learned that and thought... well, not sure why I just watched this "comparison"... All good, love jeebs but need a redo

[@paranoidhumanoid]

The tag states *114MPGe* for the highest trim Prime XSE and *127MPGe* for the lowest trim Prime SE. Total range is estimated at 645-650mi on full tank+battery depending on ambient temperature/road condition/tires.

[@mrxman581]

Agreed. The Prius was lugging around a dead battery. Which also affects performance. If the battery would have been fully charged it would havevkept up with the Tesla a lot better. Also, the guy in the Tesla zoomed way ahead. You guys didn't start at the same time one behind the other. The Prius' storage space is bigger and more flexible because you can fokd down the seats and have open space to the roof liner. No so with a Tesla.

[@UtagU_ab]

@@mrxman581the hybrid battery doesn’t add that much accelerated power to the Prius. Also, depending on driving habits you would drain the hybrid battery very quickly. There’s no way the Prius would ever keep up with a Tesla. Also note, that he was driving the Prius HARD. The tires were screeching while the Tesla was barely making any noise. That means the Tesla was holding back and the Prius was already struggling.

[@williamwilliam728]

I believe the Prius can get almost 35-50 miles of battery range before the ICE kicks in. The battery range increases as the car adjusts over time. That would have substantially changed the analytics of this trip if you had a full battery when the road trip started.

[@Gjeebs]

I agree. Messed that up

[@mrxman581]

A full battery also helps with performance on the Prius. That iscwhy the 0-60 times are better on a prime than the regular Prius. In fact, you handicapped the Prius twice. Driving around with a dead battery weight and short changing the performance so you actually would have done better on this comparison with the regular Prius because it wouldn't have the extra weight of the bigger dead battery.

[@Pyrcae]

honestly , Prius vs Tesla is mostly not a question of cost , but a question whether you have a valid option to charge you BEV or not

[@wgemini4422]

If you couldn't charge at home, then Prius Prime wouldn't be that useful either, just get a normal Prius.

[@Pyrcae]

​@@wgemini4422​ not having always a valid charge option for BEV doesnt mean you dont have any, with PHEV you usually still would have many charging option even without having one at home. while you are not dependent of it. BEV is clearly the future, while PHEV is a great option to drive sometimes or even often electric without having charge option at home

[@wgemini4422]

@@Pyrcae Given it lacks DC fast charging, I am not sure what would be a valid charging option. A L2 charger would take over 2 hours to charge it, not exactly viable unless it's at work.

[@Pyrcae]

@@wgemini4422 in fact I can only refer for Germany, the amount of DC-chargers are growing fast here. even supermarkets are getting them, so people are going for groceries/shopping 30min, and battery would be in most cases full when coming back. this will cover a lot of usecases where people cannot charge at home. While even when you can only charge rarely or only half the battery , I consider PHEV as a great option with many advantages. recuperation , drastically reducing brake abrasion, driving silent in city , home area, and generally lower environmental impact (for good PHEV as the prius)

[@Pyrcae]

@@wgemini4422 www.goingelectric.de/stromtankstellen/Deutschland/Wildau/Penny-Chausseestrasse-2/67194/

[@jonathanf.9395]

Model 3 should have solar panel as option to create shade and also help combat energy loss when using dog mode and external cameras

[@yolo_burrito]

Or it should have a normal roof.

[@walkingconifer]

Elon wants to sell the 100kw battery pack as the solution to range anxiety. He is a business man, not a saint. So he rejected the solar roof

[@wemakecookie]

Solar adds a lot of cost to the vehicle that is not recouped through the energy it produces. The benefit it brings is only a negligible few miles a day in range. Basically it doesn't make economical sense and brings almost no benefit atm. Although it sounds cool at first.

[@walkingconifer]

@@wemakecookie big battery adds more cost, more weight, bigger and better suspension

[@wemakecookie]

@@walkingconifer Cost benefit. EVs have their own benefits. I'm just not seeing much of a benefit of having solar on a car, especially given its cost.

[@Tigerex966]

You can charge the battery while driving or braking with the Prius.

[@karenszeto6094]

didn't think i find one that compares these two. thanks!! love the uphill test. really eye opening.

[@mariofixer]

The only thing stopping me buying a modern Toyota Prius is that electric water pump that's why in my Gen 2 Prius has a belt so almost 644,000 Mi and it's still good

[@jackweta]

Whats it like owning a Tesla with no home charging? Also no Tesla charger infrastructure? Welcome to NZ. Where Uber drivers mostly drive Toyota Prius or Aqua Hybrids. The cars cost approx $20-30k used low km. Tesla Model 3/Y cost $60-70 new. Financially the hybrid cost $120/week fuel as a working vehicle. The value of the vehicle after 3yrs is $5k. Approx 50000km /yr. The Tesla would take a pretty significant price hit putting that many km's on it. I havent included insurance. Toyota are not out of the game anytime soon.

[@HermanWillems]

1. I have a Tesla and can't charge at home. (NO PROBLEM! I can drive a full week+ around without charging), 2. The Toyota Prius is more expensive than the Tesla Model 3. and 3 the Tesla is far more cheaper to operate and less maintenance. The LFP battery in the Tesla is made for 3000 cycles meaning it can do probably 1 million miles of charges. So it's a no brainer.

[@matthewwalker5265]

I agree, Toyota are not going anywhere. However, $60k to $70k is quite incorrect. You can get a model 3 RWD right now for about $31k before taxes n fees. Quite a large difference.

[@Tigerex966]

I think Prius with rear seats folded has a storage advantage in rear storage with the wide opening.

[@trooper_f30]

as someone who crossed shopped these i noticed that the regular prius at lease in my case where electricity is 23 cents flat is cheaper than the prime but it does also make it a lot slower, i would say for a daily commuter it is worth looking at depending on the person just because of the luxury aspects that tesla doesn't give

[@Tigerex966]

Just about half second 0-60 7 seconds. With the skinny tires.

[@matthewprather7386]

For your cost comparisons it’d be cool if you included fully loaded (not _that_ kind of loads) costs.. Short and long term maintenance.. Insurance.. Depreciation (that’s a tough one)..

[@Youtubeuseritis]

There is a $10,000 markup on Prius Prime and 3k discount on Tesla. There is simply no comparison.

[@jeromemainmanmanne7496]

$4k markup for us. Makes it $38.5 for the Prime SE. Having abundant solar at home and driving many short trip may make this choice good for us. Still have time to back out, as we placed the $500 deposit yesterday and the Prime SE arrives from Japan 1 Dec...

[@alginyes]

No longer got mine for 35k

[@busterdouglasiii3838]

Lies

[@Weezedog]

I got my brand new inventory 2023 M3 RWD for ~$32k after taxes and rebate. The Prius because it gets no federal tax credit can’t really compete, it’s $10k more.

[@HHRS]

Prius prime XLE is way more than $50K out of the door at any dealer, crazy markups.

[@Gjeebs]

I cannot believe they are marking them up. So sad

[@Mechazawa787]

It would be helpful to have a more detailed cost breakdown, because I'm pretty sure you can flip the results depending on where you live. I looked up the cost per Kilowatt hour in Arizona, and it's $0.16. I pay $0.29. He also seems to have expensive gas, $4.25 was it? My last fill-up was at $3.76. The price comparison is based on the least expensive Tesla and the most expensive (and least fuel efficient) Prius. The Prime shines in every day driving if you have cheap electricity, but for road trips a base trim non prime variant will get I think 8 more MPG--and save you ~10K off the purchase price. At my prices the Prius is not only cheaper in fuel on that trip, but has a dramatically lower TCO--and I'm not even accounting for resale value, cost to insure, or property tax.

[@lachlanB323]

Nothing beats a Tesla's cost when home charging though regardless of state. Super chargers are quite a bit pricier but generally still cheaper then hybrid.

[@Mechazawa787]

@@lachlanB323 No, it really does depend on the state, check out fueleconomy.gov and put in current prices for different states--remember to add the delivery charge for electricity--you will see it.

[@andrewl8251]

Exactly the comparison was bias towards Tesla for these and other reasons and this is from a neutral observer who likes both but prefers the Tesla

[@lachlanB323]

What isn't taken into account is free supercharging which is easy to get.

[@Mechazawa787]

@@oceanlives4915 This is probably usually true if you drive less than say 12K a year, at say 20K a year over 5 years, depending on local prices a Prius will pay for itself over a Corolla, a Tesla over a say a 3 series BMW. You will have moved on by the time the battery needs replaced. If you get any free charging it changes the whole picture. Free level 2 charging at work, you want a BEV, Free level 1 charging at work, but expensive electricity at home, you want a PHEV. No free charging short commute and expensive electricity you want ICE, long commute you want a HEV. No free charging and cheap electricity you probably still want a BEV if you can afford to shell out for it and wait for the tax refund and make enough money to get the whole thing. Having lots of solar at home can change things too.

[@jonpriston8784]

That Prius "Ad" is hilarious 🙌🏻

[@thomashammond4229]

A big factor for me choosing the Prius prime over Tesla was the fact that a Tesla will lose TONS more value as the battery ages. This Prius will hold much more value and be much easier to sell when the time comes. Would love the fun experience of the Tesla, but not yet… Soon, but not yet. Delayed gratification.

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

I'd like to see a cold weather (say, -10°F) and deep snow comparison, also a comparison on long drives, like across the country, or, at the very least, on a 1,000 mile trip *plus* return.

[@eugeniof8470]

prius will be better car as the tesla will be all super charging and have to stop every 180-200miles to charge, less miles in cold weather

[@mrxman581]

A full battery also helps with performance on the Prius. That is why the 0-60 times are better on a prime than the regular Prius. In fact, you handicapped the Prius twice. Driving around with a dead battery weight and short changing the performance. You actually would have done better on this comparison with the regular Prius because it wouldn't have the extra weight of the bigger dead battery.

[@67daltonknox]

This cost analysis overlooks a few things. In my Mammoth condo, electricity is 40c/kWh, so the fuel cost of a M3 in the snow for 6 months is higher than a Prius. To install a 240V 40A line is $2,000 and I need home owners insurance with $1,000,000 coverage, $900/year, so over 8 years that's $9,200. At the end of 8 years, the M3 drive train warranty expires so it becomes worthless, so you have $40,000+ depreciation, whereas the Prius will go on running for many years.

[@4WDisLife]

I don’t think model3 will become worthless in 4 years.

[@monsterous289]

Yeah, Model 3 doesn’t become worthless after the warranty expires lmao

[@67daltonknox]

@@monsterous289 After 8 years, Tesla will give you 12% of the original cost only on a trade in. Good luck with finding a mug to buy it privately.

[@victimoffame2389]

@@4WDisLife Yes, it is worthless from day one.

[@4WDisLife]

⁠@@victimoffame2389 glad to see unbiased and factual comment like yours.

[@shou635]

I think it’s worth having underinsured coverage.

[@NoWay1969]

Why do people care about the ride quality in the back seat? I mean, I get it if you're buying a seven-series or a Navigator to be chauffeured in, but do you care that your third and fourth best friends are a little cramped when you're driving them to the Jason Isbell concert? Let those emeffers drive if they have a problem. Back seats are for kids and people you don't like enough to put up front.

[@lionheart2165]

I recently upgraded to the 2023 Prius Prime XSE Premium. As someone who owned a Model 3, and sold it after only 6 months, I can say that it's faster, it's funner, and it's cheaper for fuel, all that said, it is horrible in reliability. During my ownership of that Tesla, it was in the shop 3/6 months and I had to rely on Uber. My 2017 Prius Prime went 70,000 miles and never had to go into the shop once, very reliable and the 2023 Prius Prime will probably do the same. For me, gonna hand it to Toyota for reliability, I need to get from Point A to Point B and be done, sure, it's fun driving a Tesla, but when will I really need that 2 seconds extra acceleration from 0-60 to make it worth the problems? Let's talk depreciation, I sold my 2017 Prius Prime for $22,000 with those 70,000 miles on it, paid $26,000 for it, with the tax credit of $4,502, that means I actually made a net positive return on the investment of a car, which is insane. That same Model 3 from 2018, it was about $50,000 with a $7,5000 tax credit. When I sold it 6 months later, I took a hit of almost $16,000, which really sucked considering it only had maybe 2,000 miles on it.

[@jpdoc5722]

thanks for sharing your first hand experience 🙏

[@christophresmerowski1824]

First thing: you NEVER EVER take your eyes off the road while you are driving. (Uber driver with 240K accident free miles in 4 years) stoped watching @5:30

[@bdslade]

This is not even a remotely fair comparison. Why wasn't the Prime charged?

[@RennieAsh]

Because he's saving up for new shoes; can't afford to use shoe glue or buy 2nd hand

[@vg4902]

I'd also say some of the cost cutting the Prius does, like the seat pockets is preferable to the type of cost cutting that Tesla does. Like removing the ultrasonic sensors, radar, and rain sensor. I'd rather not have a pocket and keep all the really useful safety features instead. Tesla Vision isn't a good replacement.

[@roundcheesewheel]

Loved the shoe segment 😂 Subscribed 👍 This man is honest

[@vjhicks8533]

Actually I do find hatchback openings like the Prius has to be much better for utility. If you get something bulky from IKEA you will have a hell of a time getting it in the small opening in the Model 3 trunk. I wish they could make the model 3 a hatchback.

[@rokko_fable]

Isn't that the Model Y? I will never buy a car with a normal trunk, because hatchbacks exist. Zero benefit to have an old style trunk, especially because the shape of a hatch is more aerodynamic and useful.

[@vjhicks8533]

@@rokko_fable Well some people don’t like the Model Y and don’t want an “SUV” like me. Back in the day my first new car was an Acura integra 2 door Hatchback. And I could put all sorts of bulky things in the back of that with the seats down. No SUV needed. The Polestar 2 and BMW i4 are more my liking in that regard. They are sedans with a hatch. In fact the model S is also a sedan with a hatch opening. Why the model 3 isn’t that way? Who knows.

[@rokko_fable]

@@vjhicks8533 I think the model Y is barely an suv. It's not much larger than the model 3. But I get your point.

[@vjhicks8533]

@@rokko_fable yeah I get that the Y isn’t that huge. But I know opinions vary but I just think they are kind of ugly. I’ve always liked the look of a sedan/sportback far more than an SUV.

[@tonypaca3015]

from model y to hybrid and never looked back. mid hybrid is just superior

[@MrChadder007]

The Prius is surprisingly a hotter design than the Tesla. Very interesting 🧐 It’s still just not fun. 😂

[@Gjeebs]

You think Toyota will use the commercial I created?

[@FlickaDinkin]

Definitely maybe.

[@JV-py3lg]

Probably not but only cuz they have no humor

[@bartwaggoner2000]

I WILL NOT BUY ONE UNLESS THEY DO

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Definitely!

[@zerokool-2058]

Wonder if going up the hill with the Prius will change depending on if the battery is charge.

[@wgemini4422]

I have both an earlier version Prius C and a Model Y. I would still pick the Prius C, but only because it was less than half the price of the Model Y. Unless someone drive long distances all the time, I don't see why anyone would pick the Prius at the same price as a Tesla TBH. Kind of amazing they still don't have back vent at this price point.

[@Andriastravels]

Wealthy spoiled brats can't understand why anyone is not like them, and do not do the things they do. After all, they are so superior and special.

[@davidcampbell2370]

Cost per mile is more than fuel. You need to include operating costs - oil changes, insurance, tires. The outrageous insurance rates on a Tesla negate fuel savings.

[@montu25]

Love you man! Loved the Prius commercial 😂. Keep up the good work!

[@TimEndzeit]

Very cool comparison, especially the uphill race that shows clearly the difference. Im wondering though how full the Prius battery was at this point, as the Prius can only use the full 220hp when it can power the EV motor AND the gasorline motor at the same time. The battery can be empty after driving uphill for a longer time. Additionally Im wondering how important that fun part is actually in practice. At least on the german autobahn the Teslas are often the slow drivers on the slowest lane - probably scared to loose their range too fast?

[@bdslade]

The battery wasn't charged at all.

[@TimEndzeit]

@@bdslade Even with an empty "plugin part" - the battery charges the normal "HV part" automatically from the ICE or during regen breaking. Aftersome uphill fun it will be depleted though after a short time... e.g. the car has only 220hp for a short time and falls back on 140hp (orh whatever the ice has)

[@bdslade]

@@TimEndzeit not in the case of the PHEV. This car has about 40 miles of pure EV range and is the sports model, so the electric motor helps boost torque for an extended period.

[@TimEndzeit]

@@bdslade Yes but it still has to behave like a normal HV with an empty battery - otherwise you could not drive anymore :D Thats actually the huge advanteage compare to other PHEV, the Prius PHEV is a Hybrid with a bigger battery while many other PHEVs are basically ICEs with extra battery and electromotor.

[@bdslade]

@@TimEndzeityes, but it clearly wouldn’t have been depleted during the uphill portion of the challenge, which is why it wasn’t fair to compare a Tesla to a crippled Prius in this portion of the “race.”

[@warlok9]

Good video, but sold the Plug in Prius short in some major areas. 1. You didn't think to have the Prius battery at full charge prior to starting the test. 2. You also fail to mention that the Prius EV battery can be brought to an 80% charge without EVER plugging it in simply by placing it in charge mode while driving it (especially on highways). This way, when you return to city traffic you can switch right back to EV mode. 3. I feel you also downplayed the range anxiety most everyone will experience in the Tesla. This comparison would have been better with a standard Prius since the plug in feature wasn't even utilized during the test at all. The standard Prius is FAR less expensive, gets substantially better mpg in hybrid mode (57mpg combined vs 52 combined for the Prime), and has way more cargo space since the battery does not intrude into the cabin. (50 cu ft vs 27 cu ft with seats folded down.)

[@dreamleaf6784]

I agree. A regular Prius is the best idea for gas car. I have a Tesla model Y for the bulk of my driving. And a Honda insight when the Tesla is already in use. Long trips up to 600 miles, I would drive the ev. Any longer and I would fly. But it's nice to have a old gas car laying around

[@John101B]

Given how many Tesla Superchargers are around, range anxiety is not a thing anymore. I do 1000km trips quite often, often in the areas I'm not familiar, and the built-in Nav does a fine job bridging between trips. I actually prefer Tesla Model Y over ICE for long road trips.

[@doublesman0]

I had an ad break while you were doing the mat ad. Lol.

[@hotcoffeeamericano]

why are the headrests tilted far forward? they look ergnomically incorrect. and engineers designed it?

[@jml9550]

For better whiplash protection. Our 2 Lexuses has the same design headrests and they are quite comfortable to rest your head during drive.

[@singular9]

I would rather cross shop a mid trim camry or accord hybrid, which would be more comparable to the model 3 and around 5-10K cheaper depending on the trim and yeild very close to the prius as far as fuel economy.

[@HLF31528376]

13:25 I was in the running at one time in 2010 for a full spec Prius with solar roof… They told me that the solar roof purpose was to power the climate control, suck heat out and blow ambient (not cooled) air in to equalise inside and outside temperatures… Kept my Honda Civic 1800 executive edition until 2015 a Nissan Leaf Tekna 30kW and after 5 years bought a 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance (going to be my final car since I’m retiring in 2 years)

[@DoingthingswithDAN]

It seems you are correct about insurance rates not going down as you age. Almost has little effect

[@williamgrunzweig571]

Gave this video a watch, and wow, this was very nice. You covered what most drivers really care about, basic everyday concerns. Great Pros and Cons. 👍

[@porksandbean]

no range anxiety and you get faster to where you're going is the plus. also just for regular commute to work/school you would rarely use gas. prius for the win.

[@twoseat5spd]

Another informative and very entertaining video. Funny Prius ad I have a neighbor that bought one. I love its looks compared to the iffy front end looks of my Model 3!

[@idekk-uf5nu]

I also like the safe exit feature when you open your door it’ll alert you if a cyclist or a car coming behind you. It was first introduced on the new Nexus NX.

[@tylerconlon1990]

Tesla are cheap to travel but when you look at insurance cost it’s totally different . I use State Farm and my Prius cost 88/m I called for a quote on a Tesla 2019 model 3 and I was quoted 296/m So is it worth 200+ dollar a month for a Tesla?

[@antcruz83]

Call a different insurance company lol.

[@wemakecookie]

At the same price there is little reason to get the Prius Prime over the Model 3. The Model 3 is a much nicer, more fun car overall. I would wait until the updated one is released in the US early next year. The only reason I can think to get the Prius prime is if you need a hatchback or often travel on 500+ mile road trips.

[@mcunha81]

What I've always said about hybrids, your paying basically full price of an EV battery pack,but only getting a quarter of the size in the Prius, plus as an added bonus,u get to get bent over at the gas station,lol Isee why dealers want to sell hybrids. 42k,lol loved the safety commercial, hope u dont get sued by Toyota ,but I'm guessing they have incentives, similar to EVs...

[@bdslade]

A quarter of the size? The Prius has only 2.9 cubic feet less cargo space. You’re missing out on less than the size of the frunk. Their passenger space is also similar; the Model 3 with more headroom and shoulder room, but the Prius with more leg and hip room. Further, what do you suggest for those of us without home charging or fast charging available locally, and no super charging for longer trips?

[@RennieAsh]

I think they mean 1/4 size battery. But yes, the hybrid is better for certain areas where you may want to do longer trips or have less charging options. @@bdslade

[@cainrok]

I see it as if you only have 1 car get a hybrid so you can take a long trip easily. If you have cheap electricity, have a fuel vehicle available and shorter commute get a electric.

[@dennisbolus3148]

From 3rd Gen Prius to Tesla ModY and never went back to drive a gas fed car. I'M HAPPY! on my regular route: Home, work, home, groceries, home, Church and back home again. I don't need to include gas up time (such as falling in line in Costco gas station) or worrying about someone will rob you while filling up. While at home resting or doing something, My car is being charge in the garage. 🤗 Electric Car is not for everyone. :)

[@mannyb8056]

Fact about adaptive cruise: it was implemented due to the high number of avoidable rear-end collisions that occur (especially in the U.S.) where an accident typically happens because the driver of the vehicle was following too closely. The adaptive cruise feature allows the vehicle to keep an automatic safe-distance (including for emergency-stopping situations) and automatically reduces speed when the forward vehicle slows down. WHAT THIS FEATURE IS NOT MEANT FOR is the allowance of the driver to “take their eyes off the road” for any reason. Remember you are still operating the vehicle. Which means if an accident occurs while your attention was not on the task of driving, then the blame is still on you, regardless of the avoidance features the car has.

[@meganote]

Thanks for the comparison of the two vehicles. I might be missing something, but I can't find anywhere that says the Prius Prime qualifies for a federal tax credit in 2023.

[@davetravels9273]

The problem for me is the price of the Prius. I picked up my 2023 Model 3 for 25.5k here in Colorado after incentives. The Prius is just so much more expensive, especially if you are charging at home. Getting about 130 mpge. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bnbowes]

Hey, I love your sense of humor. Look forward to your videos. I agree with you 100% on smaller tire size is better. You mentioned 18s look fine on the model three but 19s don’t look very good on the model Y and you had an opinion about which aftermarket aero covers fix that problem on the model Y. So tell me which model Y aftermarket Aero covers do you recommend to make it look better?

[@Gjeebs]

Yea I kinda misspoke there. I actually like the 19" rim behind the wheel cover I just don't like the wheel cover. I like the Rimetrix cover for the 19" model Y wheel

[@bnbowes]

@@Gjeebs thanks. Yeah, I run the silver stock wheels rims around town bec they look good and put the gross looking stock cover aero covers for road trips. I agree I plan on getting the Rimetrix Laminar (not Medusa). You are talking laminar, right? Also, I appreciate your work so if you have a sponsor code, that would be great so I can support you. Definitely you need new shoes!

[@Gjeebs]

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[@HygienistDentist]

Who would pay that much for a Prius!?!!!! 🤯

[@kitmarshall4084]

in the CA bay area, electric is about .40 kwh, so to charge would be $18 for 60 kwh

[@firefalcoln]

I think when the aptera debuts we will finally have a vehicle where the solar roof makes sense and saves the driver more money than the extra cost. For that vehicle, it is so much more efficient and the solar can cover a much larger area to give someone about 30 plus miles of range per day from the sun. For a lot of people, that all of most of their regular commute distance.

[@glassmw9823]

This is what I’m talking about

[@Surtypez]

You and me both hate that they keep delaying it!! When it does that will be our future.

[@linusa2996]

The prius has a smaller battery, so solar panels on the roof and hoods would give more range to the battery per hour. 8-10 miles per hour on the prius vs 5 miles per hour on the aptera

[@firefalcoln]

@@linusa2996 your assertion is just wrong. The Prius doesn’t claim to get anywhere near as many miles from its solar charging as the aptera claims. And the reason for this isn’t that complicated. The aptera’s specs indicate that it is a much more efficient vehicle per kilowatt hour driven than the Prius prime or any other EV or plug-in hybrid. That’s what gives the aptera its recharge edge from its solar panels over the Prius prime. The rate at which a battery recharges to full isn’t the same thing as the quantity of miles accumulated by the vehicle recharging the same amount of kilowatt hours. FYI: I say this as someone who owns a plug-in hybrid and doesn’t own a full EV. So it’s not as if I don’t like plug-in hybrids. But their smaller battery and ease at quickly recharging isn’t going to add more range faster from solar panels than a more efficient vehicle that might or might not have a larger battery pack.

[@linusa2996]

@@firefalcoln it's watts generated by the solar cell going into a battery that can hold x watts. A 300 watt solar cell will charge a 13kW battery faster than it can charge 100kW. The issue I see with the Toyota solar charging is why so small. I would have used more of the roof as well as the hood.

[@allenaxp6259]

The new model 3 will be so much better of a buy!

[@alanmay7929]

Nope it depends on alot of circumstances lol!!!

[@Yachtzeee]

I would have absolutely loved the Prius 5-10 years ago.

[@jeromemainmanmanne7496]

We've had our 2010 Prius since new, now 160k Miles. We love it, but now are getting 40 MPG and ready for a new Prime which we have abundant home solar for. We drive 80% in town +-30 miles per trip.

[@foxlake6750]

What is the difference between the two for car insurance?

[@pt93music]

Toyota can actually manufacture a car unlike Tesla who have panel gap issues, fit and finish problems and poor overall design (ac condenser dripping on batteries and ruining it comes to mind). Plus, that Prius won’t ever leave you stranded because you have fuel as a backup. EV’s are for a very small segment. Many will never drive a vehicle that doesn’t have a fuel source option.

[@matthewprather7386]

A perforated black vinyl wrap on the roof of the Tesla wouldn’t change the look but it would block a lot of heat. The peroration is done like the see through wraps the put on city buses - advertising on the outside, dark but still see through from the inside.

[@guerro327]

Bro, I cut my insurance in half by switching to Tesla insurance.

[@slowercuber7767]

Love the Toyota “commercial”.

[@Tigerex966]

Air conditioning vets are under the seat in rear. Driver side has power seat.

[@dyhppyx]

I sincerely look forward to your videos

[@Gjeebs]

Thank you

[@denniss3980]

The Prius Prime can go 40+ miles on battery only, if most of your driving is short trips but still take a long road trip a couple times a year, I think the Prius is a better buy

[@benjaminsmith2287]

If you're into fast, BEVs and tech yet reasonably good packaging, the 3 is for you. If you want a smoother ride on rough roads, range, and IMO a much more stylish car, you go for the Prius.

[@singular9]

So your MPG on the prius was 40...vs what you should have averaged...50. What were you doing that you were nearly 20% less efficient than average. Burning 6+ gallons in 250 miles is kind of absurd. In the same 250 miles, my accord 2.0 turbo on a stage 3 tune only burns 8 gallons...so something isn't right here.

[@rvo8915]

Don't forget that the prius has service every 10k miles or so, this is not in the comparison.

[@MikeyG003]

If you wanna keep it for a long time, make that 5k miles

[@johncipolletti5611]

If you love buttons and switches like I do, the Prius is for you!

[@Xyz-gf5op]

What a commercial!! Loved it .,

[@avayu2289]

My main issue with full EV is the charging. I just leased a Prius XLE 2023 to gauge how FSD and newer designs for 2024 and 2025 will shape up before deciding on whether to go full EV or not. Really like the Audi Activesphere concept though…..not sure when that will be available.

[@MikeyG003]

How do you like the Prius so far

[@brettrun8575]

Your main concern with charging is unfounded. The vast majority of Tesla owners have charging at home and therefore plug-in whenever they get to the house. Every morning when you leave the house your car is fully charged for the day. There are so many supercharging stations all over the country that road trips are not a concern either.pure EV is just far superior to hybrid or ICE in almost every measurable way.

[@Phil_p30]

Can you please tell us the car insurance that gives you the best deal.

[@Gjeebs]

you have to figure that out for yourself

[@mrxman581]

I read the Prius does have rear A/C vents. They're under the front seats if I remember correctly. Maybe it's some kind of hybrid set-up since they have cooling front seats.

[@MiguelRPD]

That's for heating not cooling.

[@mrxman581]

@@MiguelRPD Ok I wasn't sure. I remembered that there were vents under the seats

[@Anomize23]

Tesla may be cooler but the quality is still crap IMO. So many on the road ive seen with misaligned fit n finish, some with glitchy tail lights or dont work and then when people speed you can see the panel’s flapping slightly on the outer edge of their bumpers. You can keep the rc toy. Quality cant be beat from toyota as well as their service.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Fit and finish is fine in some. Build quality in terms of body solidity and noises is where the Highland may or may not improve. I don't know. The Prius is very well built, even wiwth the cost cutting. I like the ride quality of Toyotas and I don't like the ride quality of 3 and Y. S and X are decent but in their price bracket, they're on the lower end. I just value build and ride and NVH refinement over what Tesla offers but Tesla does well in fun to drive aspects, performance, tech and that's their appeal.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Great review! I'm not surprised that people cross-shop them. I wish Tesla had an option that would erase Musk from my mind. I'd pay $0.03 per mile for the no-Elon subscription. :)

[@matthiasdebernardini3388]

I'm still not sure it makes sense to have a plug-in hybrid for the prius, how much money are you really saving? If you do a lot of highway driving, I'm sure its not much. If you do a lot of city driving and you have a good place to charge it every night then I think that would make more sense for a plug-in. Great comparison nonetheless.

[@Landrew0]

If I may offer some constructive criticism (with respect): I hate when someone does a comparison by tossing you a boatload of numbers to keep in your head from "column A" and then gives you the same boatload from "column B." I can only really get a feel for the results from seeing side-by-side comparisons.

[@hammersampson]

Prius starts at $35K MSRP, but typically retails for $45K after dealer markups. Tesla Model 3 costs $39K, or $31.5K after federal tax credits. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

[@etmax1]

I have a panoramic roof in a model S in Australia and in summer we regularly have mid 40's Celsius and the Model S has E-glass which does such a great job of keeping the heat out that I don't believe the cooling works any harder than if the roof was solid.

[@Andriastravels]

You should have test results and data, before writing an inane conclusion on solar heat radiation through a sun roof. In "6 Reasons to Avoid a Panoramic Sunroof" by TopGearBox, they write: "a panoramic sunroof equipped car will obviously be the hottest of the lot, because the heat from the sun overhead essentially has a direct path in." OBVIOUSLY. And sorry to disappoint, most don't care what kind of car or other gadgets you have.

[@yuxuan130411]

super charging ends up more expensive than hybrid, that's why tesla makes no economic sense if you don’t have home charging

[@MrFastFox666]

Where PHEVs really shine is in short trips < 40 miles. My daily commute is 44 miles and the old and tired battery in my ELR can still power through 33-37 miles of that commute, with the rest taken up by the (by modern standards not very efficient) gasoline generator. I spend about $1.50 for charging (14KWh from the wall) +

[@Gjeebs]

Yep I totally agree. In that example it's the best of both worlds

[@Jimsxn]

Toyota dealerships markups is a pain in the ass, ended up with model3 LR

[@rossheikkila6959]

You are a younger version of me. Hilarious in nature. Love the comparison and of course I personally know toyota is my choice. In Canada it gets Cold! Thank You Brother!

[@chocoloco911]

Prius is shitting on the Tesla.

[@patrickcallahan2885]

Curious, so if you typically do road trips the Prius is the better option, as a home town shuttle, the Model 3 is better/ cheaper. But what about resale value? Say after 100,000 miles?

[@deansmits006]

If your daily mileage is less than 40 miles, then the Prius PHEV makes sense. Go EV with the ability to hit long road trips in places without charging infrastructure. If you want something really fast, then get the Tesla

[@muehli02]

You didn't charge the battery on the Prius?!?

[@talhakamran3471]

Very different video. Awesome job. Although this was just prius vs model 3 not prius prime though. Battery wasn't charged and prius prime uses ev only mode first as a default so i think it would be equal to or better than tesla. Also price should have been mentioned with all the upgrades. Because i just checked and it becomes a 5 to 7k difference in canada. Although nice to see different kind of reviews.

[@pietroprestininzi]

what is the point of a comparison between a BEV and a PHEV, if the latter has empty battery? not only the mileage, but also the "acceleration" and the "chasing" test is undoubtedly distorted. calls for either a clear disclaimer or a redo....

[@andrewl8251]

The prius is evidently more efficient. You couldn't drive the Tesla without the battery charged and shouldn't have the prius without the battery charged for equal comparison

[@podge5555]

Did you find that this Prius Prime was better put together and more solid than the Prius Hybrid prototype that you drove in previous video?

[@johndough7039]

WHATS THE CLEAR CHOICE TO BUY FOR NEW 2023-2024 PRIUS VS TESLA (ANY MODEL* SAME PRICE RANGE)

[@HR-tl5mq]

I am actually trying to decide between those two. I drive a lot for work... I can also charge at home.

[@Tigerex966]

Thanks

[@IamNoOneUknow]

What happened with that Model 3 you ordered? I'm pretty sure I saw a short video where you were sitting in your garage and ordered one on your laptop.

[@Gjeebs]

Decided to hold off an just get the new one when it comes out

[@IamNoOneUknow]

@@GjeebsMakes sense, I think the Highland refresh is going to be great. I picked up a new 2022 in May of last year or else I'd probably do the same. Love the channel!

[@bossblue6853]

@Gjeebs Same. I test drove a model 3 Performance here in Tokyo a few days ago - all white everything - and WOW ! Was ready to buy (still kinda am) but the Highland refresh rumored to be arriving soon has my full attention. Can’t wait to see your review when they finally actually show us what the car will look like 👍🏽 You got a new subscriber today !