New RCinPower GTS V3 1002 // Double Ball Bearings // Prop Motor Matching

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Nick Burns

Nick Burns

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@winder6
@winder6 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick B for taking the time and sharing your thoughts very cool 😎
@drdrhelmut
@drdrhelmut 2 жыл бұрын
I waited for the release of these. They are in the mail and on the way. So excited!
@BreeZieDoesiT
@BreeZieDoesiT 5 ай бұрын
Hey how are they?
@drdrhelmut
@drdrhelmut 5 ай бұрын
@@BreeZieDoesiT Hey, I love them, got 3 pairs now. Overkill for whoops, but still fine, great for 2" / toothpicks :)
@medrone7097
@medrone7097 2 жыл бұрын
Fun test & looks like a good upgrade for the Mobula. I particularly enjoyed Nick’s scrappy front yard rips!!!
@bentravis99
@bentravis99 2 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday Nick! Thanks for all your videos, we really appreciate the info and experience you share with us.
@zdm5290
@zdm5290 2 жыл бұрын
Always love your videos, they're always great for information and understanding a product. Hyped to try these on my new Odonata (soon to reach mass market [not my design just hyped]). Glad to have selected them based on reputation and the middle ground volume for 40mm!
@seewell8168
@seewell8168 2 жыл бұрын
@AngryDonFPV has been trying to get a company to make these size of motors for what seems like a year. Looks like more than T-motor were paying attention! Should check out his videos of the prototypes too.
@Adam_Carbone
@Adam_Carbone 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! I like watching content on new electronics and components, especially whoop stuff and this fit perfectly!
@electroddxful
@electroddxful 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick I’m going to try these motors they look really nice. 👍🙏👍🙏
@Tokyo_Dom
@Tokyo_Dom 2 жыл бұрын
Mobula7 1S shows around 25% more current draw on the 1002s. It is going to be tough on batteries and flight times... might have more power in your tests but I really haven't felt the 0802s in 25000kv ever felt underpowered.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe worth a try. The extremes of the throttle is where I think most would feel the difference
@nikotttin
@nikotttin 2 жыл бұрын
Nice catch! It's indeed a bit higher with th 1002, but not by a quarter. At full sick its around 11.5-12A while the 0802 are around 10.5-11A. Cruising it 6.5-7A vs 5.8-6A... So yes a bit more taxing but close call isn't it?
@DonJohnsonFPV
@DonJohnsonFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikotttin not by a quarter but half... 0802 = 100mAh/mn = 10A max 1002 = 150mAh/mn = 15A max 🤦‍♂
@nikotttin
@nikotttin 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonJohnsonFPV I simply looked at the flight video... more what I can expect. There's quad66 who just released a video on 22,000... Which kv do you like for a light 2"??
@valden
@valden 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonJohnsonFPV would you say it may be a bit risky to run these on a 5amp esc? Appreciate your insights!
@CaptCalgary
@CaptCalgary 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown ! Lol thanks Nick more options rocks !
@DonJohnsonFPV
@DonJohnsonFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, for being the one introducing that motor size and having done many different build with them in the last year here my opinion: -don't waste your time with the rcinpower specsheet, bench are fake as f*ck ! (1103 thrust but with better efficiency... 😅) -2" triblade are the worst possible choice no matter the build weight, keep with biblade or 40mm triblade -I totaly disagree on their being the futur for 75mm whoop, cause to me (and others) they are all about light weight. dual bearing 0802 RCin was working on are way more interesting... if bearings last... -I don't recommend going 2S, weight increase is really noticeable, efficiency isn't better, and 14000kv is just a terrible choice. -Efficiency from these RCinpower just seem to be bad... On my test build with prototype 19000kv T-motor I get 14mn on a sub 20g 1S 1100mAh... -+30g is already too heavy, 25 26g is the sweet spot ! -Toto is a sellout copycat I'm still waiting for T-motor to release their but for now I have many build and tests on my channel already !
@t0t0FPV
@t0t0FPV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Angry Don :) I sent you some love, you need some ! - I got 8 minutes with 41g build and 2000mah 1S, I guess efficienty is ok :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJnPhp5mi9GCpKM - 2inch frame is the best spot for 1S/2S 1002 :) - yes 2inch biblades are the best baldes for 2inch - 75mm build is not the target frame for 1002 but it could be useful in many cases like: HD setup kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6TKc3SNfpWHjM0 or if you want to carry any insta360 go 2 camera kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnnbfJ-sqKtsnJY on 1S/2S :) We have new things coming, stay tuned !
@DonJohnsonFPV
@DonJohnsonFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@t0t0FPV -8mn on a 2000mAh... that's really bad !! -And why anyone would use smaller props to carry more weight ? -I get amazing results on my 40mm props, way more fun than on 2", but maybe these motor are just bad, I wait some to compare... You should have kept with your optimistic dishonnest review rather than rush every brand with my ideas... You're the most useless people in this hobby !!!
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 2 жыл бұрын
Aww... You two should have a beer together and a nice flight Session. Salut! ❤
@DonJohnsonFPV
@DonJohnsonFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbee5481 dude ! Why should I do that ? this guy is stealing my (and others) builds, presets and ideas for years to make money ! He just deserve a good slap in his face !
@manjofpv1725
@manjofpv1725 2 жыл бұрын
Hey chef... im a bit confused what to buy. Im following your channel a lot. What motors should i buy for a 1S 75mm Mobula frame?
@johncarold
@johncarold 2 жыл бұрын
WoW I can think of a couple of quads those would be great to use. Yep one is the mobula 7. The back yard is looking great the pool cover looks nice, I wonder if a micro can put a hole in it ? Thanks for the information and video, I can't wait to see your up coming videos.
@charleshenshaw9099
@charleshenshaw9099 2 жыл бұрын
You looked like you had a lot of fun testing these. 👍
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir just free flight
@prodbysamar
@prodbysamar 2 жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of the rocket race! What a beast
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I think I now have 7 1s and 2s
@prodbysamar
@prodbysamar 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV 7?! Sweeet! Gonna try building one myself once parts are available!
@prodbysamar
@prodbysamar 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV have you ever considered going to the multiGP or any other race? For the tiny whoop event maybe?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@prodbysamar I would like to, but it hard to get the time. 3 kids, work and family our weekends are often full.
@valden
@valden 2 жыл бұрын
dangit, I'm just going to get all three so I can call it good... LOL. I like different things.Thanks for the cool vid Nick. I think for Whoops these motors are gonna be a real personal preference type thing. Some people are going to prefer the feel of the existing 0802, for whatever reason. I do think that this new size though will just provide some more interesting build options and just make the hobby better in the long run.
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Nick always a pleasure to watch
@djs134
@djs134 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 19,000kv on 1s 2” will be the most popular setup. It’s to bad they didn’t just make a 10,000kv since the 14k would obviously be less efficient with a motor output limit, still it’s super cool u did that though.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I might take the throttle limit off to just see how fast I can drain a battery 😁
@valden
@valden 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV I think it should handle it, might be cool to see what happens!
@JAYFPV24
@JAYFPV24 2 жыл бұрын
Awww that sooo cute sooo tiny but I just started flying 0802 tmotor motors ong am surprise how much power those little things can handle and thank youuuu nick for the review always love it mandalooooo to the mooonn and am gonna fly your poool lol one dayyy
@RedXFpv
@RedXFpv 2 жыл бұрын
Ayoo
@curazyheart7143
@curazyheart7143 2 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are excellent! You and Infinity Loops always provide the information I want.
@dantschgl
@dantschgl 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting motors! What I would be interested in as well is what you mentioned in the video -- how different types of props affect the flying (maybe with OSD-Sticks?). Have a great day everyone :)
@slowvoltage
@slowvoltage 2 жыл бұрын
That Nick Burns background blue! Any recent builds with the 1202.5'ish class on 1s and 2s (cannot remember)? My NBDFlow 1202 11420kv on 3" 1s and 2s (with motor limiting) should have been destroyed several crashes ago; my stack screws were all bent forward and I replaced them but not the motors still flow fast as I want them to. 😻
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
The only tuned recent builds are in thumbnail in this video. :)
@coilockerfpv
@coilockerfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a thorough video on these! I'm curious how well the 2s version would carry an insta360 go2 🤔
@miguelt.7997
@miguelt.7997 2 жыл бұрын
Nick, I have been replacing most of my micros with 1002. I found they are perfectly matched with Gemfan 2015 2 blade, compared to the Gemfan Hurrincane 2023 tri-blade, which put too much load on the 1002.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
nice to have confirmation of what I felt I was experiencing.
@CallistoFPV
@CallistoFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I got mine, waited too long for these 😍
@randomengineer5536
@randomengineer5536 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up the 19,000KV for my mob7, can't wait to try them out! Will I be able to run them on 2s but with the throttle limit lowered? I have the mob7 with the x12 v2.1 board wich I think takes 1-2s, really want to try 2s on this rig but don't want to ruin the motors
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Normally motors are rated 1s/2s. Which doesn't mean voltage limit but rpm limiting. yea you could run them, I would start out cautiously at first.
@sketchpv3080
@sketchpv3080 2 жыл бұрын
Super thorough!
@Profia107
@Profia107 2 жыл бұрын
Always thank you for the latest information Very helpful
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 жыл бұрын
that's excellent, because I just bought a set of 19000KV to put on my Mobula 7 1S! did you change the tune for the new motors?
@SkyCandyVisuals
@SkyCandyVisuals 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the newbeedrone 1102 flow motors 19kv but these look great
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Really fantastic flying, Nick!!! 😃 Pretty interesting little motors indeed! As more options the better! Great review as always! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@herbertplatzer2172
@herbertplatzer2172 2 жыл бұрын
Well since i converted my mobula6 to mobula7, change my fc to new elrs cause it was burn, i will give them a try since i need now new motors 🤣 Thanks for the review 👍 what pid's u use and what battery?
@lynxfpv
@lynxfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw these hit racedayquads an pyrodrone the other day. The Neon Orange flavor look awesome. This video dropped just as the sellers started promoting the motors, perfect timing in my opinion! This was a Grrreat review. Well done 👍✅
@BreeZieDoesiT
@BreeZieDoesiT 5 ай бұрын
Hey Nick, i was gonna get these. Any new reccomendations on a good 1002 or 1102 since the release of this video for a 65 or 75. Is a 12A esc rated enough for these types of motors
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 5 ай бұрын
I have mainly tried the different 100x motors on BNFs, I think they are likely very very comparable from one to another.
@BreeZieDoesiT
@BreeZieDoesiT 5 ай бұрын
@NickBurnsFPV sweet. How about A ratings. Are off all them within the zone?. I know 1102s might be bit high in amps for a 12A board
@earry509fpv
@earry509fpv 2 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome review Nick! I’ve been really interested in these motors, and couldn’t out my thumb on exactly what kind of setup I wanted to go with. This opens my eyes a lot better!! Thank you again Nick! Hope I can try these soon!!💯🦾
@scu-dub
@scu-dub 2 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent test nick I love how well the mobula7 1s flew with these new motors what pid changes did you make I am getting another one so that I just have 2 and I may want to try these on the broken mobula7 1s with a new FC I still love that rocket race and have since you first showed it 😁 these motors with the ball bearings are the way to go for longevity no doubt! And I always hit the thumbs up before I even start watching your vids lol 👍🏽✌🏽
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I lowered the stick response slider and pitch damping slider.
@ddxdzx
@ddxdzx 6 ай бұрын
Planning to use the 1002 22000kv on a 75mm walksnail build, would you have any recommendations on a tune pre-set to start on?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 6 ай бұрын
try a uav tech whoop preset
@ddxdzx
@ddxdzx 6 ай бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks!
@VernStarr
@VernStarr Жыл бұрын
Which kv did you end up using for the Mobula 7 1S? Stock 0802s are 20000, the 1002s come in 19000 or 22000, I think.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
22000kv, are currently on one of my mobula7s
@VernStarr
@VernStarr Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks!
@stelic9515
@stelic9515 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for share 0802 have less amp draw. I like the 1002 motors because of ball bearings. When my 0802 wil lhave bushes wear I ll try to install bearings. What camera is this ? Caddx Ant?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
caddx ant on the 2s flight, runcam nano on the 1s.
@stelic9515
@stelic9515 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks and Happy birthday!
@samuelepaganoni9741
@samuelepaganoni9741 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Nick! Do you think 1002 22000kv motor will work with 40mm biblades using 5A ESC? I tried 0802 19500kv but i get too slugghish response, 1102 18000kv was too heavy and underpowered, tmotor 0803 22000kv was perfect but it continued to have bells separation. Thanks very much!
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I do think 22000kv will work with a 5am esc, we could likely move up to 40mm triblades.
@LourieJacobs79
@LourieJacobs79 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday!
@sixtofive
@sixtofive 2 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling you'd be interested in these!
@Taboloncawonthemasters
@Taboloncawonthemasters Жыл бұрын
Hey Nick! So I got my mobula 1-2s that I have upgraded to the v3 frame to fit 350mah 2s rdq batteries with xt30 lead and connectors to help with sag. Now that I got everything set up and I’m flying, the motors get so hot!! Is it the increase in weight from the connectors and the battery? Or is it getting a good bit more juice and the motors can’t take the time xtra juice? Should I swap to some bigger motors? If so what motors would you recommend me to drop in the mobula 7 v3 frame that will handle it better since I’m only going to fly it with 2s 300/350mah batteries only. Whatcha recommend for motors that will fly hood with that set up and not get hot with still a decent flight time? Also what props would you recommend to pair with it? Give me a couple options on the motors and props for more aggressive vs a little more efficient and longer flights! Thanks nick! You are the best and my go to guy! Lucky me since you know everything I ever ask haha but unfortunate for you since I ask all the time 😅😅😎🤪 you’re the Man!
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I suspect the pids need adjustment. When we make frame or weight changes, really most changes from one quad transfered to another we need to adjust pids. The pids will cause the motors to work hard and thus get hot. If we swap motors that might solve it, but also might not.
@Taboloncawonthemasters
@Taboloncawonthemasters Жыл бұрын
Adjustments in with way? Which pids should I raise or lower?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@Taboloncawonthemasters I would turn the master slide down two or three notches and test
@slowentropy4531
@slowentropy4531 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't flywoo release a 25000KV version of this size motor as well? I really like the 1002 on try blades or quad blade props, particularly on 2S.
@valden
@valden 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is where the 14000kv will shine. I plan on trying them on a Geprc Smart 16 frame, and use one of those 16x16 aio instead of the stack to save on weight
@jebrc
@jebrc 2 жыл бұрын
These look so awesome and i think there gonna replace alot of 0802 and such motors thanks for sharing nick.
@battano
@battano 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a couple sets of these myself to swap out some ran down 0802's. Happymodel themselves have released an 1002 motor but not sure if they are dual bearing. Nice review as always Nick...
@DonJohnsonFPV
@DonJohnsonFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Happymodel 1002 ?
@battano
@battano 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonJohnsonFPV yeah they have one coming out as well
@battano
@battano 2 жыл бұрын
Haha you reviewed it didn't you!
@DonJohnsonFPV
@DonJohnsonFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@battano No I design it ! And they won't produce them !
@airdevil21
@airdevil21 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick. That's a good comparing video. I ordered the 22000kv version and will put them in my mobula7 1s.I hope they will arrive this week. This are the angry Don motors right? And a blue version would be awesome!
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if Angry Don wanted this specific motor design or not, or if he was in contact with RCinPower. I just don't know.
@t0t0FPV
@t0t0FPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV It is me that did the work with Rcinpower (Toto FPV). Angry Don is working with other companies I believe
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@t0t0FPV Ah, so much to know and keep track of. Sorry I wasn't on point with that information.
@airdevil21
@airdevil21 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV oke thanks. Flywoo has 1002 motors now also I ordered them via banggood.
@airdevil21
@airdevil21 2 жыл бұрын
@@t0t0FPV Thank you for doing that. I have now watched your video about the 1002 motors.
@willfpv4475
@willfpv4475 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for putting this video out. I was super curious about these 1002’s and almost just bought them, but my little rocket race is a little chunky, coming in at about 37 grams, so I guess I’m sticking with the 1102
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
yes. I don't think going to the expense of buying new motors is going to yield much of a return.
@thecesarmillan5366
@thecesarmillan5366 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, what brand of prop and number blades do you prefer for 40mm on this 1002 motors (for a chunky whop)?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the whoop. I tend to use gemfan for indoor rippers and hq for HD whoops
@DonJohnsonFPV
@DonJohnsonFPV 2 жыл бұрын
From my testing gemfan 1610, 2015 and NBD azi triblade are the best performing props on these motor. I don't recommend HQ as they are badly balanced, fragile and pricey (NBD are pricey too but way more durable)
@1969jfp
@1969jfp 2 жыл бұрын
Watching you buzz around those posts by the pool makes me wonder when you are going to do a water proofing video. I can see you clipping a post and going for a swim.
@andreiiulian5649
@andreiiulian5649 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick , whats inside the 2" toothpick? And on mobula is 14000kv or 19000kv? if is 14000kv , u think worth to put 19000kv?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
the 2inch quad is the 14000kv motors. the mobula has 19000kv
@propsoff
@propsoff 2 жыл бұрын
139th...🤣 Very, very good video Nick. I do appreciate all the details. Also, awesome watching the channel grow. I do love those micros. A friend just got some 2207 6S RCin-motors, I'll be watching how they fair. Seems like the stator mount breaking is the thing I see the most with these little rippers. Fun watching you show off those skills. Yup! I smashed the heck out of that like button too, so easy! Enjoy the Breeze...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
@ivanluhi
@ivanluhi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and information!
@porshacarroll9600
@porshacarroll9600 Жыл бұрын
Let me make sure I understood you correct.. you said if running on 2s we need to reduce the throttle 🤔 did you mean only if you're running triblades? Because I have these motors and I'm running biblades but I only have a Zeus 5 amp ESC 🤷🏾 would I have to reduce the throttle even though I'm running bi blades on a 5 amp ESC? And how much of a throttle reduction?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
yes, on a 5amp esc these motors on 2s with biblades pull 9amps on 100% throttle and would burn the 5 amp esc. We have to reduce the throttle or motor output to ensure we don't go over the amount of amps the motors might pull.
@backyardr.c.channel4732
@backyardr.c.channel4732 2 жыл бұрын
Can the mobula 6 flight controller handle the gemfan 2015 biblades with the 19.000 kv version of these 1002 motors?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
1s yes, 2s not likely
@rawpicsfpv3516
@rawpicsfpv3516 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, what would you do if you had 1202.5 11500kv motors laying around but you didnt want to build a 1s toothpick with it, because the aio boards break every second flight? Can i use those motors maybe with a heavier board then the fpvcycle 1s board (fettec 15a) on 2s and maybe 2.5" props?
@valden
@valden 2 жыл бұрын
That would actually work decently well on 2s 2.5 inch props, you just may need to stick to biblades and possibly limit the output a bit to like 10000kv. It might be a bit chonky compared to say a TKS race running 1102, but you will have a bit more punch and power, and it will have a bit more weight to throw around, so apples and oranges. I say give it a shot.
@rawpicsfpv3516
@rawpicsfpv3516 2 жыл бұрын
@@valden Awesome, thank you so much!:) Would you go for Biblades because triblades could be a bit much for the motors?
@armandor.calderong.9135
@armandor.calderong.9135 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Nick. Did you test them in your 2S 75mm whoop?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
No, I didn't. I think for indoor whoops there isn't much of a reason to go from 0802 to 1002. In a digital 2s whoop the weight savings might be worth it down from 1102
@gonebdg
@gonebdg 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely better on 2s ... and I think it will also better on larger bi-blade prop like 65mm for 1s toothpick. For 1s M7 I will stick with NBD 0802 20.000kv plaid edition. Thanks for reviewing this motor Nick!
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I do have another quad I was going to test the motors on with 65mm props, and 55mm ( think they are 55m, the old afunta press on props).
@Quad66
@Quad66 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Afuntas! I was just on PJC’s FB saying we needed to pressure NBD to do a modern take on the Afunats to go with their new 1102s.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@Quad66 Yes, I tried to get a few companies to make them and gave them some rough drawings for frame ideas. Or at least change the prop design to the shallow carve out to allow the prop all the way to the motor bell and over the c clip, if the motor has a c clip on top.
@ChristKrew-Rev1.8
@ChristKrew-Rev1.8 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts of using this on a 100mm frame and using 2" props?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Likely need to use 2inch biblades, tri blades are a bit much for this size motor
@ChristKrew-Rev1.8
@ChristKrew-Rev1.8 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you sir... have a great rest of your weekend!!!!!
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 жыл бұрын
I (finally!) bought the parts for your standard lightweight Rocket Race 2S (went with X12 AIO and HGLRC Aeolus 1102 10000KV and tri-blades), so the question is whether you like it BETTER with the 14000KV (albeit throttle-limited) 1002 on bi-blades. I've seen the flight, but I want YOUR opinion. :-) THANKS!!
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Its close, in a light build like I showed overall I prefer the 1102. With the 1102 I can carry the insta 360go 2 more viably and still have great flight performance without it.
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks!
@ibeginge113
@ibeginge113 Жыл бұрын
Which KV did you fit in the Mob 7? 19 or 22K
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
22kv
@ibeginge113
@ibeginge113 Жыл бұрын
Cheers @@NickBurnsFPV
@ashfpv9559
@ashfpv9559 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve just got myself some RcinPower 1002 19000kv motors, I need help with a tune to allow me to freestyle, my tune doesn’t seem to like dives, loops
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
We would probably need to see what it flies like to make any suggestions.
@shanehugehugentugler903
@shanehugehugentugler903 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, What's the KV on the Mobula 7? Awesome videos. thank you
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
On the 1002 motor?
@adee737
@adee737 2 жыл бұрын
​@@NickBurnsFPV What was the KV on the 1002 motors on the mobula 7? i would like to give this a try to see if it helps with the dreaded yaw washout
@shanehugehugentugler903
@shanehugehugentugler903 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV yes the 1002 motors from the flight clip. i want to try it as well. thanks
@shanehugehugentugler903
@shanehugehugentugler903 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV also, what was the flight time that you got from those motors?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@adee737 19000kv in that test
@bread12678
@bread12678 2 жыл бұрын
What KV were you using on the mob 7?
@bread12678
@bread12678 2 жыл бұрын
Also could you possibly do a cli dump of your tune with these motors on the mob7?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
19000kv is on the mobula 7
@SteveFPV80
@SteveFPV80 2 жыл бұрын
Which kv would you recommend to replace the Mobula7 ELRS 1s?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
19000kv if our priority is flight time 22000kv if we want/need that top end throttle pop
@SteveFPV80
@SteveFPV80 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks, I'm thinking freestyle so probably 22000 and then take it easy if I'm crusing.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteveFPV80 I would go the same route :)
@mohdazrimohamad2452
@mohdazrimohamad2452 2 жыл бұрын
How is the temperature for these motors?
@josefdahari
@josefdahari 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez I just got a slew of 802s been waiting on hearing what your thoughts of this. I'm trying to build another 1s 75mm whoop with these 22k
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
There isn’t anything wrong with 0802 the 1002 are just a bit better imho
@josefdahari
@josefdahari 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV no I know but I'm on a whoop n micro building binge lately lol. And want it all lol 😂
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@josefdahari lol, well alrighty then build on sir
@josefdahari
@josefdahari 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV myyyyy brother nick. Thanks man!!!!🤟 Appreciate you always
@nikotttin
@nikotttin 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, I did not understand one point: did you use the 19,000kv or the 25,000kv on the 1s Mobula?. By the way you talk about 18,000 wben showing rhw sub250 frame. :) Thanks and looking forward to h2h with the T-motor 1002!
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
19000kv on the mobula 7, and yes 18000kv on the baby turtle they are betafpv 1102 motors running 1s. I used the 22000kv version on the open prop 1s rocket race in the thumbnail but didn't cover it in the video.
@nikotttin
@nikotttin 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the clarification. I actually bought some 19,000... but sill eagerly waiting for the Tmotors. By the way just flown some HM 1202.5 on a 2.5"... Not powerful enough compared to my old 1103s...😭
@slackerinmotion
@slackerinmotion 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikotttin Did you run the 1202.5 with a 2.5" on 1s? That would be under-powering. I tried the Rcinpower 1202.5 @ 11500 kv on 2s on the StarLord frame with 2" triblade. It was under prop. But that frame could not take larger props.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikotttin do you mean they don't have the top end or the low end. Which 2.5inch prop?
@nikotttin
@nikotttin 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Hey both, First thanks for the replies. Avan 2.5" on 6400kv and 2S. Dry weight is a touch above 50gr. I need to move to 3s to get that explosive power the old amax 1103 had... I wad hopping that 6400 was enough (before was 7500kv and was great)...
@ProjectMockingbird
@ProjectMockingbird 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing on the Mob7 you were 48khz? the stock 802's on that rig are underpowered and 48khz robs it of power...Just looking at how the 1002's fly and my 802, 22k HM's on 24khz, I still think 802 22k 24 wins...but really hard to say...would be interesting to see 1002 on 24khz
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Only 48khz if the mobula7 comes stock with that. I don't think it does though does it.
@ProjectMockingbird
@ProjectMockingbird 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV mine came with 48khz stock, fwiw
@1969jfp
@1969jfp 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@BuuFPV
@BuuFPV Жыл бұрын
F4 AIO 5A won't be a good idea for this motor, right ? probably need 12A
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I have run these motors on 5am esc, as well as a host of 1102 motors. The prop size is an important part of the amp draw. larger the prop the more the amp draw, I have not flown 1002 or 1102 on larger than 2inch tri blade props.
@BuuFPV
@BuuFPV Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you for the info.
@linjerry506
@linjerry506 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe come out 1s 65mm push whoop, I hope so
@MaddestGinger
@MaddestGinger Жыл бұрын
What about 4 blade 40mm… 52g dry 2s…to. Cruise in the evening… or inside… any suggestion ?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I haven't exhausted all weight and prop choices. In the experiences I have I think they are best suited for ~40gram with 2inch bi blade props.
@MaddestGinger
@MaddestGinger Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV would you have a suggestion for this build? It is a gepRc tkP16 build as a pusher… they have 1203 11500kv… it flies well but got 10s of flight… help !
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@MaddestGinger low flight time is often the result of weight, over motored, or even the pid tune can cause shorter than expected flight times.
@Acestrex
@Acestrex 2 жыл бұрын
Rcinpower all the way!!! Super efficient and durable!!
@mohyusufnr1842
@mohyusufnr1842 2 жыл бұрын
in mobula7 1s did u using 19000kv or 22000kv?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
22000kv
@mohyusufnr1842
@mohyusufnr1842 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV did u use 19000kv version too? Can u tell me what's the difference?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@mohyusufnr1842 yes, I used all three. The basics with motor kv is the higher the kv the more top end rotation, and thrust the overall efficiency goes down as well.
@mohyusufnr1842
@mohyusufnr1842 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV so i assume that the 19000kv of this motor better than the stock motor of mobula7, and the 22000kv version is more efficient than the stock, but i watch in ur video , even u use 22000kv version is has better thrust than the stock motors, wasn't it?
@ontariodoublex2713
@ontariodoublex2713 6 ай бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPVwhy do u keep giving people different answers 💀
@Shauny_D
@Shauny_D 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell you've been stretching out your skills a bit. Trying new things, good stuff.
@RobertoCamachoNoellySerrano
@RobertoCamachoNoellySerrano Жыл бұрын
I read that the 27000kv damaged FC, so I bought a set of 4 25000kv and a set of 4 22000kv
@davisauto8423
@davisauto8423 2 жыл бұрын
any chance of you sharing your mobula 7 pid tune? 2200kv please
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
the mobula 7 has the 19000kv in them.
@davisauto8423
@davisauto8423 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV I put the 2200kv on the elrs mobula 7, it flys well no prop wash, that I could tell lol. Four minute flight time on 450's. Motors are cool after 4 minutes, I haven't changed the tune on it. I'll let you know how they hold up to a very dusty environment.
@ontariodoublex2713
@ontariodoublex2713 6 ай бұрын
@@davisauto8423are you running blue jay 48?
@sixtofive
@sixtofive 2 жыл бұрын
That biblade 2" 2s rocket race setup is impressive! What size battery were you using with that one? Sorry if I missed you saying it.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I was using the hobbyking 300mah 2s on all the 2s flights. I really like that battery with its weight and still good flight time
@sixtofive
@sixtofive 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you!
@1969jfp
@1969jfp 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the 22kv motors would work on a 1s 85mm whoop
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
its a bit hard to say as there are many configurations I didn't test. I do think a 2inch triblade is going to be a bit much for the motor, it won't be bad, but if you fly aggressively with flippies and dive and fast turns it might not give the response your looking for.
@pirateradioFPV
@pirateradioFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Rcinpower motors are usually cute as candy. It's weird but pretty stuff on your quad tends to fly better than the ugly stuff does. Wonder if anyone has done any zero value research on that 😁
@TouYubeTom
@TouYubeTom 2 жыл бұрын
nick, why dont you run at 500hz?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
do you mean packet rate? I do on some of my whoops.
@TouYubeTom
@TouYubeTom 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV yes… did you have range issues?
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@TouYubeTom No, but I don't typically fly far away
@adamcfpv5372
@adamcfpv5372 2 жыл бұрын
Man how can I get a set of these to do a review or just test them out
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Probably have to buy a set or contact RCinPower directly
@adamcfpv5372
@adamcfpv5372 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice
@theagileaardvark
@theagileaardvark 2 жыл бұрын
A Nick Burns edition motor.. now that'd be something. :D
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
$13 for a 1002 is a lot! Most 1408 motors are the same price, and obviously not for whoops, but so much more motor. Hopefully others will come out with this 1002 size and be a better price. 4 whoop motors for $52 ... Ouch!🤕🥴
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I felt the same when we bought baby clothes. $16 for a onesie that could fit in my hand. So little material yet so expensive comparatively
@KOrnhOliO1
@KOrnhOliO1 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV At least the motors will (hopefully) last more than one month, when a baby grows out of those tiny clothes! lol :)
@doccock100
@doccock100 2 жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 I suspect that material cost makes up only a small percentage of the overall cost, machining something that small must have its own complication in tolerances and I also suspect the time to manufacture is not too dissimilar to a larger motor resulting in very similar costs of production. I use the word suspect as I have little experience of the commercial side of things, but making something on my lathe that is half the size is nether half as easy, half the time or half the hassle.
@NickBurnsFPV
@NickBurnsFPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 yes, and used baby clothes sell like hot cakes. Used motor, not so much.
@shakeymikesadventures6793
@shakeymikesadventures6793 2 жыл бұрын
i might get a few sets, mainly for some cheater whoops.
@kalinkha
@kalinkha 2 жыл бұрын
Rcinpowaa😥👍
@spikespine3
@spikespine3 2 жыл бұрын
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