6 Motors Better Than 4? // FlyWoo Venom H20 // Micro Drone + Load

Flywoo hitting us with a step up hexacopter, with inverted motors.
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[@isaacmitchell7780]

I'm a fan of the firefly hex nano! So far every hex I have flown requires more throttle input when turning. I enjoy flying it around and the additional input required to keep level and smooth has actually helped me be more accurate with altitude when flying my squirts

[@outinlawrence3456]

Thank you for your review and this awesome design. I LOVE THAT!

[@PeugeotL-vd2le]

I use those 1203 nin motors on 3 different builds (one of them is also a 2inch hex, Quattrovolante quex frame tho) and I like them a lot super smooth as you said and durability has been top notch.

[@evansamson2703]

Great video thanks for all the info.

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick Great video and review of the Flywoo Venom. I had wanted to get the Flywoo Hex-nano since the first day it came out. I just never had a chance to purchase it. and now that I can get a venom I'm considering it. Thanks again for the video and information

[@MrLokpro]

Your skills on those sticks are locked in! When are we going to get some over the open pool dives? Great review as always.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Boy that is a tough one. To ensure I get all the flights I need in before review I tend to leave the pool covered but might be able to do something like that post review or when I have completed my review flights 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jhughes2286]

I love this video! Not necessarily the quad, just the video, I can see how much fun you have making the videos. It brings me joy to see your success!... and at the end there, the way the words roll off your tongue, you are so good at this, Nick! Thanks for everything you do!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. I do enjoy flying and making videos about the experience.

[@kaleoariola]

Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in! Ordered the Foxwhoop yesterday to replace my cinerace. Gonna eventually fix it but just want to be able to fly something so as to take off the pressure during repair. But wow! Just saw this in an email and low and behold you deliver this review. Really considering a pre order of this as it uses pretty much most of the same parts as my cinerace including the propellers, 48 of them, than I recieved the day it stopped flying. And it has alot of lights on it which are more easily customizable than the whole light strip like on the cinerace. Also that crash! Wow little guy is tough. Definitely considering on pre ordering now that watched this. It could be a fun basher once I learn more on the cinewhoops. Definitely a unique aircraft. Mahalo as always for the entertaining and informative review.

[@MrCrowleyandhisdrone]

Awesome lil guy, Pool looks great

[@MrCrowleyandhisdrone]

Nice rip

[@MrCrowleyandhisdrone]

LOL the replay of hitting the table is a riot, nice job

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I wish I had a camera above me so we could see how close it was

[@AKtoTok]

Very cool concept, hyped to see your review! *After watching - looks like a viable option for naked cams *

[@mercurymoyes4018]

Gotta love that sticky icky!

[@hendranandradrone7064]

Wow...amazing flay fpv 👍👍👍🙏

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Brilliant video

[@fpvMazerolle2607]

Looks like it came out of the matrix looks badass imo

[@medrone7097]

Interesting design and intense aggressive flight. The DJI camera looks like it has a pretty narrow pov.

[@ChainsawFPV]

Quadmovr just did a LOS flight video of this. Quick little quad. I like the look of it to.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That guy has top notch los skills. I would fly it into the house or me like that

[@scu-dub]

Another great review nick👍🏽it may not be for rippin and freestyle but you pretty much make anything"rippable" lol not sure if this is a word but it is now 😁 I was really impressed with how well it flew to be honest and the punch outs were great for the weight it has on it and it is definitely durable for the size and all the props it has lol 👍🏽✌🏽

[@trajanfpv]

Interesting idea.

[@electroddxful]

Nice looking quad and it flys really nice 👍🙏👍🙏👍

[@Mupshot]

I have only needed to emergency abort once in a park. it turns out as I watched it flutter to the ground, that I was in a great position to recover. While I was mostly alone, I wasnt completely alone and I felt it better to quietly fall back to earth.

[@winder6]

Great review. I wonder if we will ever see your yard in a sim.

[@cumminapart77]

I need all the Hexcopters! lol idk something bout em is pretty neat

[@TheJosetaborda]

I fly my larva-x with those 5 bladed 2.5' props on the rear and avant in the front. It flies amazing, what are your thoughts about this? Did you ever tried? Cheers

[@yspegel]

Just wondering, how many people flying these, grind down and/or hollow out all the bolts, there are quite a lot of them to save weight

[@CDRaff]

Just an FYI about those sticky battery pads: most of them will come back to life if you clean them well will a damp cloth.

[@AsgardStudios]

Nic I just wanted to comment on the SMO 4K camera. Last summer I made a naked GoPro seven but unfortunately it got destroyed very quickly on. So I decided to buy the SMO 4K as a replacement. Overall I’m happy with the picture quality, but where I find this camera falls down is the stabilization. Insta 360s flow state stabilization often leaves me with jerky motions when I’m doing turns in my videos. Whereas if I ran the same footage from a GoPro through real steady I would always get better smoother results. I guess the good news is because the stabilization software based there is the opportunity that they can improve it. Let’s hope so!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't run the footage through stabilization. I contemplate if doing that is what I should be doing or not, for review purposes.

[@BenjaminMeasures]

Give gyroflow a try- you might be pleasantly surprised.

[@AsgardStudios]

@@BenjaminMeasures Cheers! I downloaded it and am trying to get it working. Im quite optimistic about it!

[@markmontreal7815]

Hi! The description for the drone says it’ll go 140km/h.. did you hit those speeds or find it to be faster than other 2”s?

[@lorinwingtips5290]

YAY! that thing looks awesome! And I like different! But how do you think the efficiency compared to other camera carrying capable quads of roughly the same weight?

[@GibRealistic]

Imo 4 larger props should be more efficient than 4 smaller ones.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

These come down to the overall size we need or are comfortable with and the weight of the external hd camera we need to carry. More prop will handle the load better but will likely be a touch louder and bigger than the smaller propped versions

[@hookedfpv3219]

Hey Nick this is unrelated to this video however I wanted you to see this.we talked about the happy model crux35 little while ago. About frames where to get replacements any hoot I’ll get to it my crux occasionally would just drop out of the sky failsafe for no reason at all like from 10 feet away it would do it. So I put crossfire on it and let me tell you with the DJI digital and crossfire holy crap totally different quad waaaaaaaay better love it and I now have two spare bottom plates so I can send it and I doooo absolutely love it now

[@crash_lander]

Hello Mr. Nick. Love the snappy turns. I think it’s great also looks alienish 😂. What’s that new construction at the garage door ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That section will be outdoor cooking and living space. Fans, heaters, tv, grill, fridge etc. Looking forward to it to be completed.

[@crash_lander]

@@NickBurnsFPV great, hope you enjoy it.

[@Adam_Carbone]

It is awesome that Flywoo has created so many hex BNFs in the last year or two. This quad is amazing, it is so cool how they fit a naked digital vista and the fc/esc board in this hex format and have it under 200g with the SMO4k HD camera! Still not bad flight times at 3-4m for how much power this little quad is probably consuming. The punch-outs do look great, very nice! Awesome flying overall, looks like a very fun quad and something new of course which is always nice. Thanks for the review!

[@CantFly_FPV]

Hey Nick I just wanted to say thanks for all the videos and let you know that I have experienced a similarly odd situation where I was coming over top of something and into a dive and unexpectedly plummeted to the ground even with the throttle all the way down. I came floating over top of some power lines, and did a forward roll into the dive but before I could even orient myself I was hitting the ground. The roll wasn't slow either, I chopped the throttle and went full pitch forward and expected a good 2ish seconds of dive. I had some wind that day too and that is all I could figure. I also had a question for you, (excuse the noob question but I'm new) what screws are you using to secure your props? I've been so frustrated at losing props and I know there has to be a better way but surprisingly, I've not been able to find any info in all my google searches. All the screws I've tried are loose enough that I think they would just back out and get flung at high speeds from the prop. Thanks again for your vids!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The screws are m2 hex headed screws. The length is likely 5mm. I say likely as the actually measure the threads its about 5.48mm. I suggest buying an m2 screw kit as to be sure to have several sizes and as you "gather" more quads you will find a use for them. And a kit is fairly inexpensive around $12-$15.

[@ShermanKenB]

I used two SMO4k cameras last summer and into this spring. They appeared to have a pretty decent image and you I could get acceptable color grading out of them plus the stabilization was pretty good. Unfortunately both copies of my SMO4k's just stopped working, to the point where the button to start and stop recording would not work. I returned both of mine to my retailer who refuneded my purchase price and have moved onto a DJI Action 2.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thats not good a camera doesn't work for all that long. I will likely go back to the old gopro6 I think the image quality is better.

[@zaphyrfpv6671]

for that micro drone i prefer using my insta360 go2 against a Smo4k , less cumbersome for gaps 😅 and video already stabilized with go2 no post prod requested as smo4k need

[@fonzieskatesurf]

wow you can fly around without line of sight and won't lose signal? how far can it go on average? so cool.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes we can. It varies depending on the environment with vista video transmission the hard limit is 13km. With analog, another type of video transmission, it will depend on the mw of the video transmitter and the environment. Some have 30+km on 1watt analog vtx, but the image isn't nearly as good.

[@shakeymikesadventures6793]

This Looks Better than the 1.6 nano hex. They list a analog version, but no price yet or actual link to analog version. That Whacking the glass table is a good way of showing it's durable. The forward dive movement might be from aero dynamics of the naked camera as a sail.I want this, well as soon as i pay off my e bike.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes I didn’t have access to an analog list long at the time of my recording. Larger props are better suited to carrying the load

[@kirillm7398]

Hi, nice review, thx. Since you've fly both - can the Flywoo Venom compete with the GepRC Cinelog 20 in terms of cinematics? Especially at slow speed?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes, generally speaking a hex should be smoother and be able to carry a heavier load. The problem with hex is if repairs are needed they are more expensive.

[@kirillm7398]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanx!

[@LordFpv]

Tarantula :)

[@jacobosannicolas3884]

Hi Nick , what do you think is best the geprc phantom or this one? Thanks

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would go phantom unless our goal is to carry an external hd camera

[@slackerinmotion]

Were you running BF 4.3 with the Crash Recovery feature turned on? Cus toward the end of the first backyard flight when you clipped the post, the Venom spun and recovered very well, or was it your lightning-fast muscle memory stick management?

[@art_by_bastico8958]

Would be interesting to know

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I need to check on the bf version but no crash recovery. I have not explored crash recovery

[@art_by_bastico8958]

Please check the cli :D maybe on by factory?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@art_by_bastico8958 No crash recovery on

[@puneetxaxa1777]

off the topic... but what's the point of barometer in betaflight

[@CaptCalgary]

Great review again Nick. Great ripper still have to get my baby nano hex going it’s been sitting starting at me

[@NickBurnsFPV]

oh yea, gotta get it up in the air for sure!!

[@crashannburnFPV]

Never flown a hex before. I think I'll stick to 4 motors at this point. Less props to break. :p I'm looking at the FlyWoo Firefly 1.6" Baby Quad though. Not too high of a price, but still able to have a RunCam Thumb or something bigger. And from what I can tell, it is ELRS friendly :D

[@nerassurdo]

What’s the price?

[@moreluckthanjudgement8007]

Really liked the video but this one isn't for me. You can get a good camera quad that runs 2/3S that is stable at slower speeds and is great for cruising and screaming around podracer style. I've flown a micro hex before (a kind friend gave me a go) but it was too long ago (3 years?) to be very useful, it was definitely Betaflight 4.0, so summer 2019? I found it to be very stable in forward flight and in shallow turns but as soon as I tried to fly aggressively, it was very slow to roll/yaw. I didn't crash it but didn't have the confidence to do anything particularly wild (especially with another's aircraft!). It was like having the weight of the 5" but without the outrageous acceleration and top speed. IIRC, he replaced it with a cinewhoop as he got to fly the way he wanted (cruising) but with a more stable platform. The repeated view of you bouncing off the table with the voice over made me laugh out loud. I don't know why, it just tickled me! Was curious to see how you'd choose motorpost-to-motorpost on a hex... I guess we'll have to wait for the next one.

[@brandan_fpv]

I got that camera like a year or 2 ago and I wasnt happy with it. Super grainy and not very user friendly compared to a naked Gopro or now the bones

[@damfastfpv8016]

Second?!? Love your content Nick!

[@GregQuillen]

Omg I've been waiting on this one for over a year they teased it a long tike ago

[@flushfpv]

I have been contemplating for months about buying a hex quad. I fly in my yard to but have more trees. Seeing the way it punches out and hardly any prop wash is amazing. It ripps pretty awesome. So I just bought one. Thanks nick for all you do I learn alot from your videos. Keep ripping my friend.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Nice, I hope it brings you many fun flights. And I also hope it arrives soon.

[@zaphyrfpv6671]

12:38 crash test? 😂

[@jebrc]

One day ill have a hex there super cool. I had a toy hex think it was a mjx it was like 55mm props and i flew it with my old jumper t8sg v2 so ya got crazy pitch roll and yaw on them lol thanks for sharing Nick

[@flushfpv]

Hey nick. I finally received my quad. Had to install prop guards and camera mount myself. Uhhhh!! But the two downward motors 5 and 6 are not spinning right. Can't see anything visually wrong. So I'm guessing I have to send it back to China unless you have a guess at what is wrong Keep being you. Your awesome.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

When you say sliming right? Does that mean they don’t spin? Spin the wrong way? Or stutter?

[@flushfpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV studder.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@flushfpv Does it at low throttle as well as a bit more throttle?

[@flushfpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV it flips over like a prop on backwards when I throttle up.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@flushfpv But does it do the studdering happen at throttle levels above zero? What I am looking to find is if the esc startup power needs changed or if the esc has a hardware fault.

[@lazykid2000]

I'm curious is this better then the hexplorer lr

[@NickBurnsFPV]

really different quads, This has 2inch props made to be small, the hexplorer has 4inch props, made for longer range and efficiency.

[@lazykid2000]

@@NickBurnsFPV true should probably word the question better is the venom a more capable freestyle drone than the hexplorer?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@lazykid2000 I would think so, but I don't believe I have flown the hexplorer, But 4inch long range has never really had the aggressive abilities.

[@1stsquadrone810]

Yeah and it landed just feet from the pool...its only a matter of time Nick Burns, we're waiting...splash plunk then the swim of shame lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol one day maybe. Could be tomorrow could be next year

[@ChrisParayno]

I liked the original version of hex but the durability of flywoo has made me question their reliability. I had it maybe 5 flights and one of the motors quit on me for no reason and similarly the vtx range (analog) wasn't that great. I think it's still cool but I'll have to pass on this one.

[@genjitsu7448]

That is interesting, I completely agree. so far in my experience the Flywoo brand batteries completely suck and i would avoid them at all costs! I have 4 batteries from them and 2 batteries have 1 cell with unusually high internal resistance - the avg is about 18 or 20 but on 2 packs they each have a single cell around 40. One of the packs damaged cell is also now at zero volts - so it is now complete garbage. And note that I had ZERO Flights on that pack!!! The other one with the high IR value is useable but lacks punch and sags voltage like crazy. Please note that I have a good 2 dozen or more LiPo batteries a few that are almost a decade old (from 2013!) and I have never ever damaged one. All of my equipment is is great shape as i take great care of it all and i take lipo care very seriously. The other 2 Flywoo packs are ok, nothing great but not bad. There are for sure much better batteries out there for your money. Also note that i do not have any problems or issues or beefs with anyone or any other companies in this hobby, this is not how i want to spend any of my time. Oh, and last but not least the customer care from Flywoo is ATROCIOUS! Zero out of 5 star rating. they are really something else! So bad that at this point i would rather eat any problems than try to continue to deal with them. Did i get unlucky? Did i do anything that caused any of these problems (i have many quads, all of them are flying fine for years... so i don't think so) but the cust. svc. rep kept transferring all blame onto me starting from the very first email without ever even seeing the damaged items. They literally replied on the first email that I damaged the battery from "improper use "- how they heck would they know that already??? All i did was send them an email saying that I received a defective pack right out of the box... and it only got worse from there. 0/5 score for sure. Not once did I get a "we are sorry you are having any issues" or "we are here to help" or "why don't you send those items back to us, we would be happy to provide a replacement after we check them to verify what happened".

[@jaymatlock5987]

"13A ESC for 6 motors" Wait wait, you don't mean 13A is divided up between the motors, that can't be right? Surely each motor can individually draw more than ~2.15A. The ESC can deliver up to 13A per channel, correct?

[@OldManCassius]

Correct, 13a each.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes, kinda a poor phrasing. 13x6.

[@MaxSMoke777]

I think this hex can be summed up, "Too". Too heavy, too weird, too jerky, too slow. Their other mini-compact hex didn't seem to have so many issues. Two arms face down, and that was apparently two too many.

[@timrodriguez1]

I like my Flywoo Firefly Hex because it's novel and unique, but find it a little under powered. As a result I have think ahead when I'm flying to soften any hard maneuvers. I am curious if this new version of the hex is any better. 🤠👍

[@TheOneAndOnlyRandy]

As a firefly and firefly hex, and Inav version hex owner, I agree, but they are also running 1.6" whoop props for a 75mm and not 2" cinewhoop props like this one is

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think this is less under powered, but it certainly doesn't fly like a lite micro quad.

[@dantschgl]

12:27 imagine the glass broke... then it would have been the most dramatic crash for the future as well :D (unless you somehow manage to crash into a car or break or window or something, but let's be honest, that doesn't really happen often :O )

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, I had this thought as well.

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃 Pretty interesting little thing! It seems to fly great! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@lililililililili8667]

We need x8 whoops flywoo

[@NickBurnsFPV]

holy catfish, seem like that would need to be a bit larger :)

[@masonnordman8258]

First!