New recycling deposit charges to be introduced in Ireland

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Irish Times

Irish Times

6 ай бұрын

New charges are to be introduced on aluminium cans and plastic drink bottles from February 1st, 2024 as part of an EU directive to increase recycling. Video: Enda O'Dowd

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@markkelly8902
@markkelly8902 4 ай бұрын
I pay to get my plastics, paper, aluminium cans recycled. Now i am penalised/ penalise myself if i send certain recyclables to my recycling bin because i am charged a fee when i buy them in the first instance. In order to be reimbursed for the fee paid, i must now store these items separately and bring them back to a participating store where i can get my money back. I have to say this is the most fucked up recycling 'incentive' i have heard if in a long time. Fair play to the brains that thought this one up
@Xlobudos
@Xlobudos 5 ай бұрын
what a scam!!!
@BoB10
@BoB10 4 ай бұрын
yes sir it sure is no machines here so we have to pay the bin lorry like always and the token you get from the machine can only be used for things you buy there no money is given
@user-ql5gx7iy6c
@user-ql5gx7iy6c 4 ай бұрын
Big time scam. We should pay zero now for recycling bins at home.
@pittameatdish7589
@pittameatdish7589 4 ай бұрын
@@user-ql5gx7iy6c yeah, but the recycling bin system we have give you three bins- household rubbish which is weighed and if your rubbish exceeds 16Kg or 40lbs you pay an extra 50c per kilo and the same with the organic bin (food and grass and Bush trimmings but the truck doesn't charge or weigh the recycling bin because they make money from aluminium and plastics but now they want you to pay a 60c deposit on plastic bottles or 15c on cans under 500ml or under a pint. They know people are not getting washed and dressed to go into your local store dragging your recycling cans and bottles foe crappy euro or rwo. It's just a way of charging more fore beer etc. It's the Irish Taoiseach of Hindu descent middle finger before he leavesves his post. He wasn't even voted in to lead the Country. The whole scenario is a fiasco.
@Jeffreypennings8
@Jeffreypennings8 3 ай бұрын
That the unfortunately an idea from the EU 🇪🇺
@philslaya
@philslaya 3 ай бұрын
Scam out the door
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
Poor people living in a small apartment with no space. Where they dhould keep all the bottles and cans?
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 3 ай бұрын
In a bag or box, just like the rest of us.
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
We all knew you think of us people as your slaves. But this idiocracy has to stop. ITS TO MUCH
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
What about the 23% VAT charge. Why do we pay that for?. We pay another tax on top of thst?
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
What happens with the money charged for the non returned bottles?
@zkevzwalshz
@zkevzwalshz 3 ай бұрын
yes which is a hell of alot of money going unaccountable...all the shops loving the easy profit
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
We should all stop paying for garbage removal. Just trow it on the street like tgey do in Italy. And then you can aford to pay for plastic. Bottles. 🎉
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
Who pays for the power of the machines and colections of all this plastic bottles?
@cosmicfugue1226
@cosmicfugue1226 2 ай бұрын
The people!
@cosmicfugue1226
@cosmicfugue1226 2 ай бұрын
Plus, who pays the wages of the technicians who repair them!
@malicant123
@malicant123 4 ай бұрын
May we see the private investments of the politicians and civil servants who created this?
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
How many Milions where invested in this project?. Why we don't have the right to know this information?
@cosmicfugue1226
@cosmicfugue1226 2 ай бұрын
Politicians = wolves in sheeps' clothing.
@MrChickster12
@MrChickster12 4 ай бұрын
You can call it what you like it’s another tax end of story
@BoB10
@BoB10 4 ай бұрын
This is the a scam there are no machines in most smaller towns so we have to pay the the bin truck to recycle the bottles we get, the nearest one is about 9 or 10 miles away in a large town that have que's wating to dispose of the bottles ok I don't drive so a bus goes to this town each week it returns at 1 pm I got time standing in the que i would up having to thumb a lift back and the bin truck collects them from out side the house as it has been for years, The government gives us a little rise and takes it back by a scam .
@verali164
@verali164 4 ай бұрын
I live in a small town and we have 3 of these .
@BoB10
@BoB10 4 ай бұрын
@@verali164 Lucky you you probole have public trans sport and a doctor ect to , we don't
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
Who pays for my time spent ti returned all this bottles?
@cosmicfugue1226
@cosmicfugue1226 2 ай бұрын
Us!
@jamesdonegal
@jamesdonegal 4 ай бұрын
So what happened to the other 100,000 euro if your took back 2m bottles at .15c then that's 300k?
@markhough1027
@markhough1027 5 ай бұрын
Aluminium your not American
@ciaranmccormack4434
@ciaranmccormack4434 3 ай бұрын
Why am I paying for a recycling bin if I have now to bring these bottles and cans to a seperate location to return them when I previously could just put them in the bin outside my back door
@cosmicfugue1226
@cosmicfugue1226 2 ай бұрын
Also in my country, I agree. So much for the european union 👎
@zero1957
@zero1957 3 ай бұрын
it will be another highly expensive flop if no one uses them
@DavidAnthonyThomsen
@DavidAnthonyThomsen 4 ай бұрын
They have been doing this for years in Scandinavia and the machines work unlike the ones where I live in Ireland
@finbarscanlonwolf
@finbarscanlonwolf 4 ай бұрын
I lived in the Netherlands in the 90s. And you could bring back a crate of beer bottles, and the had a large conveyer & you could just put the entire crate on. But I also remember when I was very young her in Ireland, & you could bring back your glass bottles & jam jars & get a few coins back. This could have been happening for the past 30 years. But this generation is making a big deal about it. And would you believe some people are complaining about the extra charge. That makes me laugh. I think cheep Chinese products have an awful lot too answer for, in regards to plastic usage. 👍🇮🇪
@bigowenzy3397
@bigowenzy3397 3 ай бұрын
​@@finbarscanlonwolfbut finbar what are the blue bins for? It makes zero sense to implement this now. The only way this makes sense is for the government knowing that half the bottles/cans wont be returned and they pocket the money. Its a stealth tax hidden behind green ideology
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
I payed 15 euro extra today for this cans. 15 EURO. Iam geting 12 euro per hour and you flocking charged me 15 euro for plastic bottles.
@pittameatdish7589
@pittameatdish7589 4 ай бұрын
One guy said it was a great Idea and got three replies. I left a comment and reported him by pushing the 3 dots on the side and said it was spam. His comment disappeared. He thought Irish people were hobos. That we would return our washed out cans for 15 cents. He thought people with no cars would go through this indignity. Eamon Ryan should buy everyone an electric car. Have they really spent that much money on immigrants that we pay for recycling bins and spend our time washing out cans and hauling them to dunnes to be looked upon as a hobo by the staff and neighbours. Well he'll be eligible for his pension soon along with the current ragtag government.
@maheshsatavalekar5792
@maheshsatavalekar5792 3 ай бұрын
I am not paid to this extra work. The people at the top lost their mind and don't have any real work to do. Get to the reality. From now on I will not even put them in recycle bin. All the bottles will go in black bin.
@jeremymurphy7622
@jeremymurphy7622 4 ай бұрын
Here's an issue. Granted Ireland must achieve 70% recycling by 2025 and will most likely fudge this alas, the introduction of this system seems to have been haphazard worse uneven. If you were looking for a model to introduce new levies you'd imagine gov.ie would have learnt some recent lessons. But no. The retailer must pass on the excess charge to the customer from the get go, whether or not the producer has adopted the appropriate barcode or symbol. Looking at modelling of the whole it seems producers had a grace period- which ended the day the scheme commenced. It's unclear from the legislation if 'out of scope' stock can or can't be sold despite it actually being sold. If I'm right here the intention is that retailers and consumers have to pony up while the producers get a free pass with no end date?
@dhalsim-1
@dhalsim-1 4 ай бұрын
How much electricity are these monstrosities using every day?
@JamesFlemingIreland
@JamesFlemingIreland 3 ай бұрын
How is everyone getting in their car to bring recycling to the same point more environmentally friendly than having one bin truck pick this stuff up from everyone.
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 3 ай бұрын
Because they're driving to the grocery store to do their shopping anyway.
@eoinbyrne7581
@eoinbyrne7581 4 ай бұрын
It’s an increase as loads of retailers have hiked on extra cost in addition to this silly charge….a sneaky stealth increase if you like. This fella either hasn’t a notion or is as I suspect, being deliberately disingenuous.
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
The ppor class that can not afford to own a car. How they should return theyr bottles and cans. I forgot. You don't give a fluck about that class. They should pay extra from now on. 🥳🥳🥳
@porkthefirstoftheline8016
@porkthefirstoftheline8016 5 ай бұрын
So how do I get the stickers?
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
Where are this money going?.
@cosmicfugue1226
@cosmicfugue1226 2 ай бұрын
The money of the plastic bottles you mean? In their pockets...
@oscarkoop2548
@oscarkoop2548 2 ай бұрын
I turned in over 300 lbs of aluminum cans, walked away with 8 dollars. I dtopped recycling
@aston0708
@aston0708 3 ай бұрын
Good to see the Irish times declare their partnership in Gov policy
@k.gulskogen90
@k.gulskogen90 Ай бұрын
Wow only 110 years after other countries 😂 Off course glass bottles at that time.
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
The scheme. Sale all the colecting machines for crazy prices, payed from yours payed taxes. Somebody made milions while you spend thousands a year for bottles. SCHEME
@DjBulletsmadden
@DjBulletsmadden 3 ай бұрын
Oh n I’ve notice most shops machines don’t work nothing new there cause there as old as Americans were they came from n most the bottle I’ve sent back mysteriously don’t scan!! Leo you bander
@joeymullan9845
@joeymullan9845 2 ай бұрын
Can i put Northern bottles or cans in with no logo on it
@jamesgotman
@jamesgotman 3 ай бұрын
How about the companies that are producing these products. Deals with the return and recycling. Not the consumer! Big business is the problem and should be fixing THERE issue.
@Akhimed
@Akhimed 5 ай бұрын
so each person would end up having a bunch of 10 cent receipts? Do you not thing that would cause more pollution? Unless its online and I am missing something
@user-ql5gx7iy6c
@user-ql5gx7iy6c 4 ай бұрын
And we should pay less for recycle bins at home as we do all the sorting work for them now. Wtf?
@verali164
@verali164 4 ай бұрын
It's 25 cents on a big bottle and 15 cents on a can
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 3 ай бұрын
Kids will collect and deposit your cans and bottles to buy candy and soda. So will the homeless.
@Akhimed
@Akhimed 3 ай бұрын
@@theotheleo6830 that sounds good but that wasnt their aim, this was advertised to help decreased pollution
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 3 ай бұрын
@@Akhimed It doesn't matter who recycles the bottles and cans, whether it be the parents, kids, or the homeless, the aim is achieved.
@ScarletForYa
@ScarletForYa 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. I lived in Hannover 15 years ago and it was the done thing.
@sarah20025
@sarah20025 3 ай бұрын
you Germans are so fkn perfect aren't you?
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
I thought i am stupid but then I seen people that agrre eith this sheet and I am happy I am not alone. 😅
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 6 ай бұрын
Why now? Why not decades ago?
@BoB10
@BoB10 4 ай бұрын
Is there a a machine near you in the same town ? because here there is not the bin truck always took the recycling and we still have to pay that the machines have ques with bottles and they are 10 miles away so the bin lorry will be getting the bottles from here and we have to pay for that again. this government are a lot of scammers ,
@dhalsim-1
@dhalsim-1 4 ай бұрын
Scams take time to be rolled out
@user-ql5gx7iy6c
@user-ql5gx7iy6c 4 ай бұрын
Scam. Green scam. As everything
@pittameatdish7589
@pittameatdish7589 4 ай бұрын
Possibly people calling us hobo idiots before they leave government. They can't say "fooled you idiots" before they get their undeserved pensions. It's the last finger from the higgledypiggedly government. The referendum should be "Should the government be thrown out within 24 hours?". It would be a landslide victory for the people. Party politics doesn't work. We just need a few hundred honest people to represent the people for the TD wage and not some son of a Hindu who he and his husband seeks power. Not the rags for Delph Sikhs.
@maheshsatavalekar5792
@maheshsatavalekar5792 3 ай бұрын
Dumbest idea. Both of.them should start working at the trolley park in Aldi or Tesco according to their skill set
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
Imagine the guy that spent milions to buy a machine that provides you with 500 ml bottles of wather. Who the fluck its going to buy those bottles when you have to pay 3 euro extra per pack. Just payed 10 euro today for 24 bottles of wather. 🎉🎉🎉
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
Where can I get my drinking water if I don't want to pay your tax?
@theotheleo6830
@theotheleo6830 3 ай бұрын
From the clouds in the sky, mi amigo.
@user-fd4sh3zl5z
@user-fd4sh3zl5z 5 ай бұрын
Can squashed cans be put in machine
@justmymage
@justmymage 5 ай бұрын
Nope. The bar code needs to be scannable.
@user-ql5gx7iy6c
@user-ql5gx7iy6c 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 wow... what a fraud... who makes money out of this machines i wonder? Germany?
@alanattwood9416
@alanattwood9416 4 ай бұрын
So what happens if the
@dhalsim-1
@dhalsim-1 4 ай бұрын
You can give money to the poor by throwing your empty bottles on the ground instead. Makes sense.
@jostep
@jostep 4 ай бұрын
Ah Eimear - aluminium not aloominum
@SaraLittleWren
@SaraLittleWren 2 ай бұрын
So yet again you get the consumer to do all the hard work, and pay twice for the pleasure of it. Between the VAT and driving around with a car that stinks like a bin and the retun areas in the shop like the back of an old pub after a saturday night, hoping to dear god the bins. 1. Aren't full and 2. will accept the shitty bottle back. Single use plastic should be outlawed plain and simple. You've 1001 ways to tax us, but for the life of you, you couldn't think up anything better than this....why not let us do it through our collections anyway and get money off that way even. Kids would have come up with a better idea.
@jjman111188
@jjman111188 4 ай бұрын
My god the Irish are pushovers 😂
@maheshsatavalekar5792
@maheshsatavalekar5792 2 ай бұрын
Wasting tax payers money
@tasha0144
@tasha0144 5 ай бұрын
This is B.S. You pay with real money when you buy these products and all you get is a voucher back.. I want my deposit back not a voucher, to spend where I like not where you tell me I CAN SPEND IT
@KevinMcAllisterstherapist
@KevinMcAllisterstherapist 5 ай бұрын
He literally says in the video that you can redeem the voucher for cash...
@BoB10
@BoB10 4 ай бұрын
your lucky at least you have a machine we have to pay the bin lorry to take them again.
@dhalsim-1
@dhalsim-1 4 ай бұрын
@@KevinMcAllisterstherapist Yeah, provided you go back to the same shop
@KevinMcAllisterstherapist
@KevinMcAllisterstherapist 5 ай бұрын
I live in a country where this system works extremely well. Give this scheme a bit of time and guaranteed you will seldom see another empty can or bottle on the street. Now that there is a value attached, people will literally comb the streets for empties like they do in other countries.
@annettereddall8982
@annettereddall8982 5 ай бұрын
Rubbish, people that throw away bottles will always do so because they are dirty
@KevinMcAllisterstherapist
@KevinMcAllisterstherapist 5 ай бұрын
No doubt, but the difference will be that other people will go out and collect the empty bottles and cans as its a source of income for them. It sounds mad but I've seen it in practice, they even collect the cans and bottles from public bins. This is actually a good thing as they wouldn't be recycled otherwise. This scheme will increase the rate of recycling. @@annettereddall8982
@sgtbadger3489
@sgtbadger3489 4 ай бұрын
You really don’t know anything about Ireland 🤣
@user-ql5gx7iy6c
@user-ql5gx7iy6c 4 ай бұрын
You are one of those green lobbyists? 😂😂😂
@pittameatdish7589
@pittameatdish7589 4 ай бұрын
This should be deleted. Irish people fought and died for this country over hundreds of years and now we're being treated like hobos. Take video of yourself trawling the streets for cans. It's illegal to drink cans of beer in public in this country. This guy is a FAKE.
@deaneguiry4694
@deaneguiry4694 4 ай бұрын
I see they have an app in Australia where it goes into your PayPal account why couldn't we do this. Why do we pay recycling in the 1st place with this shit
@kensmyth1663
@kensmyth1663 4 ай бұрын
😅Aluminum 😂😂😂
@annettereddall8982
@annettereddall8982 5 ай бұрын
Thsts why we have recycling bins at home.
@BoB10
@BoB10 4 ай бұрын
agree no machines means we have to pay the recycling lorry to take them away what a stupid bloody crowd in that dail
@user-ql5gx7iy6c
@user-ql5gx7iy6c 4 ай бұрын
Amd now we do all the sorting recycling job for free and still pay bills for household recycle bins😂😂😂
@Nadrealist
@Nadrealist 5 ай бұрын
Who cares what you have to achieve
@TatesTacticalTips
@TatesTacticalTips 4 ай бұрын
Stupid idea
@notleks2411
@notleks2411 5 ай бұрын
Absolute scam.
@HowzUrSister86
@HowzUrSister86 5 ай бұрын
How is it a scam?
@notleks2411
@notleks2411 5 ай бұрын
@@HowzUrSister86 Because realistically, who is going to go out their way to haul plastic bottles back to a shop to get back money that frankly shouldn't be added onto the price? Why should WE be forced to pay extra? Why should WE be hauling empty bottles to the shop because of some sh*tty EU directive?
@axo_waddle
@axo_waddle 5 ай бұрын
@@HowzUrSister86 It's a form of taxation
@HowzUrSister86
@HowzUrSister86 5 ай бұрын
@@axo_waddle can't be a form of taxation if you're receiving back 100% of what you've put in
@axo_waddle
@axo_waddle 5 ай бұрын
@@HowzUrSister86 the majority likely won't though
@mfirving
@mfirving 4 ай бұрын
Yet another video hyping a non issue into an issue. It must be hard to continually seek out problems to blame of the ‘woke left’ That would be me by the way, I'm a leftie and this isn't about being ‘woke’ it's about recycling. Recycling is a good thing by the way and should be encouraged. If we as a species weren't so bleeding lazy then a deposit scheme wouldn't be needed at all. This scheme is currently running 40 countries around the world, and with 16 countries in the EU having started this deposit scheme policy some time back. So, it's untrue to imply Ireland is doing this alone. The plastic bag levy was a massive hit for the environment as it stopped the giving away 10 bags for every small basket of shopping you got at a Dunnes over night. I remember what my home area was like in the months before the levy came in with thousands of plastic bags hanging from every tree and power cable as well as in every river and stream. Now it's the turn of recycling plastic bottles and tin cans to become the target for misinformation. The image you flashed up on the screen of plastic bottles dumped at a Lidl store is of items that no deposit was paid, so why would you get money back and it's just plain rude to leave your rubbish in store! People can surf Facebook and other social media sites all day but can't find some simple information about recycling, really. These videos are well made and you have a compelling voice but the content is BS and so misleading. How about you do some content that was actually truthfull as that would get a lot more views, any chance?
@abbymurray9730
@abbymurray9730 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I’m confused because I can never find the recycle return Logo would anyone know any drinks that do have it? In Ireland
@dickturpin9498
@dickturpin9498 5 ай бұрын
There aren’t any. They will only be in containers after February 1st.
@daniel11111
@daniel11111 5 ай бұрын
All bottles and can that have the re-turn logo are in warehouses right now and will be put on shelves by staff only on Feb 1st. We are not allowed to put them out now.
@aliriders
@aliriders 5 ай бұрын
No did not found it 😂 completely joke it tried different cans and do not work
@Frank47900
@Frank47900 5 ай бұрын
It’s right over the barcode
@verali164
@verali164 4 ай бұрын
Return me is in big letters on the can and the same on the bottle, you won't miss it.
@dickturpin9498
@dickturpin9498 5 ай бұрын
What a crock? Going “ green”, driving to the nearest RVM to put your empties in, when I can go outside my home under my own power and put them in the recycling bin“ , no emissions whatsoever, green”? What a joke. Levy on the containers in question, so you’re only getting your money back if you participate. You can’t even start collecting now as the containers have to have a special barcode only issued after February 1st. It’s all to with money and nothing to do with the environment. Ladies and gentlemen…. The “ Green” party.😂
@UTubeTulip
@UTubeTulip 5 ай бұрын
Think the idea is you bring the empties back when you're going to the supermarket anyway. Can't imagine anything going out just to return their empties... The current green bin system isn't very efficient and most of what goes on it is burnt and converted into electricity. And yeah they're not going to let you stock up on bottles now and make a profit. It's a refund on bottles bought after the 1st February.
@dickturpin9498
@dickturpin9498 5 ай бұрын
@@UTubeTulipYeah, it would be obviously most prudent to take your empties in the way to purchase more shopping, however it doesn’t always work like that. In rural areas the nearest supermarket is a drive away, long it short drive, it’s a drive. Making a profit before February? From recycling bottles? Wow, what a missed business initiative… I lived in Asia for years , where people literally live on the proceeds of recycling. Carbboard, paper, bottles and cans from any source are collected and sold . No restrictions on what size, where purchased, who the end user was, real recycling…
@sarah20025
@sarah20025 3 ай бұрын
@@UTubeTulip bollocks, it's another stealth tax, plain and simple.
@rafasiedlecki929
@rafasiedlecki929 4 ай бұрын
how to become an unwitting employee of a garbage company, under the guise of an ecologist😂😂😂
@zyzzyvacation
@zyzzyvacation 4 ай бұрын
You can blame Ben Braddock for this whole plastic mess for starters 🫣
@user-fp4fz6zy5d
@user-fp4fz6zy5d 2 ай бұрын
Scam
@dorelgradinaru1762
@dorelgradinaru1762 3 ай бұрын
Where are this money going?.
@MultiMarty25
@MultiMarty25 3 ай бұрын
Into the retailers pockets!!!!it's a scam
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