NEW REVEAL - What Tom Riddle Needed To STOP Him Becoming Voldemort

[@Joreel]

The only reason Dumbledore took such an interest in Harry was because he needed Harry to be strong so he could sacrifice Harry for the good of the prophecy. He didn't need to like that for Tom.

[@jeanneann3545]

As a kid I see Dumbledore as how 11 years old Harry see him, strong, wise, kind, polite and overall just this warm strong guardian. as an adult Im disgusted by him however. He is far older than Voldemort if I recall, and Voldemort is around 70 when he died. Yet he is so childish, selfish, and indecisive. He can solve everything all on his own if only he take a step to do it but he rather sit back and then die while leaving silly tips for Harry.

[@anakeenskywalker6007]

​@@jeanneann3545he was wise no matter how much you age, he is still wise, he is not a 100% pure good person but he indeed do everything for a greater good. He can't solve everything, the moment voldemort took seriously the prophecy dumbledore can't solve anything, because the prophecy said that voldy will choose the person who will defeat him and that one is harry so harry should solve everything. Dumbledore just give harry all the tools needed to succeed, he is not a guardian his a mentor. Also if he would solver everything you would think that the harry potter books would be more boring? No adventure? No good story?

[@megang9283]

I'm curious about the interactions between Tom and Dumbledore during his transfiguration classes. Tom was obviously bright and charming, I wonder if he held back in that class because of the rocky relationship with Dumbledore.

[@nathanrudd2327]

Add another reason why we need a book devoted to Tom Riddle

[@thetenthofthenazgul9393]

@self Pro-found nah, book

[@Oliviben]

@@thetenthofthenazgul9393 why not both?

[@thetenthofthenazgul9393]

@@Oliviben They should make the book first, it's already been shown Rowling isn't the best screenwriter. We need an adaptation, not a whole new idea.

[@glennvoncken495]

@@thetenthofthenazgul9393 Not to mention she got hijacked by the far left.

[@ryankwon8785]

I find it disturbing that the Half Blood Prince movie showed Fred and George selling love potions. I hope the rumored Harry Potter tv show will show Tom Riddle’s backstory in Season 6. What is most disturbing is that Dumbledore stood by and did nothing when the wizards he know grow up to become powerful dark wizards (Grindelwald and Riddle). Dumbledore should’ve learned his past mistake with Grindelwald.

[@helstok178]

The rumored what now???

[@benjamintic3653]

Now where did you hear about the show?

[@Inshallahsiuuuu]

@@benjamintic3653 Hollywood reporter said that HBO is in early stages with developing a Harry Potter show. They’re just looking for writers and pitching ideas

[@abdirahmanidris290]

Dumbeldore did do something about it. Tom Riddle said he kept an annoyingly close eye. But every teacher was in love with Riddle so Dumbeldore couldn't do much

[@pinkdragon4830]

Love potions should be ILLEGAL

[@RQuinton79]

Seeing the portrayal of young Tom Riddle is chilling. All murderers and conquerors started off as children, and I couldn’t imagine walking into a 1st grade classroom, watching kids play, and have the knowledge that one of those kids would be capable, and gleefully commit tremendous atrocities. Even with so much stacked against Tom Riddle, he was still just a young child at one point.

[@thestrong2401]

No one borns evil, some born with psychological issues that make them seem evil and other become evil because of the life they had and how they were treated by other people.

[@jeanneann3545]

@@thestrong2401 I don't think so. I remember when I was a kid I was so... Weirdly too 'kind'. At some point I even refused to eat anything but rice and vegatables because I cannot fathom killing animals and consuming them. I was 4 or 5 years old, and this was more than 15 years ago, back when computer was blocky and Yahoo is huge. Vegan word probably didn't even exist. Nobody thought me, nobody tell me, I just feel like that, so very strongly infact I still gag when I force myself to eat meat nowadays. If I was born like that I truly believe people can be born with a talent, or a personality that is unaffected by their surroundings. Like how some children are born terrifyingly smart to the point they can go to universities or even teach at universities when they're barely a kid. Or how some kids are extremely gifted since they're birth, their arts rival even the professionals, or those kids who can beat chess masters effortlessly. Or that 6 years old that sh00t teachers recently. I dont think every single people is born like a white sheet, there's something already there, something that make them 'them'. A personality, a talent, a quirk, anything. A bit unrelated but by 'too kind' I mean not only I can't eat meat, I also would donate everything, i mean everything I have if somebody ask. Nobody thought me this, no cartoons I watch ever do this, nobody told me to do this, I just does. I would give away all my lunch money, my stuffs, everything. Its not kindness, its just endless act of weird obsession of kindness. Infact I need to be taught that I need to stop doing it and that I need to be selfish, it blew my mind away when I realised some kids took advantage of me. Such action simply didn't exist in my mind. Even until now I feel creeped and and feel disconnected from my young self, I did not know why I did that and I feel like I was born just like that without my choice.

[@jeanneann3545]

@@thestrong2401 Mental illness is barely understood after years of research, im sure in the future this could be researched too. Some kids may be born with talent, some with quirk/personality, and it could be they're born inherently evil from the start. Its not too far fetched to me.

[@lauraslofi]

i fully agree…

[@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru]

​@@thestrong2401I agree

[@thatbolyengirlfan6187]

I still find it amazing that voldemort even had magic. His father was a muggle and his mother was basically a squib so for him to be so powefull was amazing

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Merope Gaunt WASN’T a Squib. She was a witch whose magic was suppressed.

[@thatbolyengirlfan6187]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff that's why I said basicaly she had magic but couldn't use it

[@DelbelOfTheVoid]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff exactly this! If she hadn’t been abused she wouldn’t of had any issues.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

@@thatbolyengirlfan6187 She COULD use magic. She either used the Imperius Curse or a Love Potion on Tom Sr

[@NareinM]

The only reason Melope couldn't use her powers was because of the constant bullying from her father and brother... as a descendant of Salazar Slytherin, she's actually pretty strong

[@everwildart3563]

Who knew? Maybe deep down inside of little Tom, he was curious to know what love truly is and why some people think highly of it but he had never been given an actual reason to pursue that curiosity because he had never taste the wonders of love. So, he just left to believe it meant nothing to him since love doesn't play any important role in his life. It's sad really... He's just a lonely boy without anyone he could call "family" so it's not surprising he would choose to pursue power and immortality since those are obviously worth a lot in his eyes. I won't even be surprised if deep down he didn't really care for blood purity but pushed that ideology into himself because it's Slytherin's ideology and he so badly wanted to be an important wizard as the Slytherin heir after finding out his parents didn't want him. All of the pursuit for "pureblood supremacy" could just be a ploy to fill the hole that he is needed for something and didn't want to accept the reality of being an unwanted orphan. I do feel pity for Tom Riddle but I have no empathy for Voldemort since as he's no longer human at that point and is beyond redemption. I feel bad for the little boy who had never been given a chance to love and were forced to live in darkness and eventually, choose to walk the path of darkness. It's weird really, his situation is a little similar to Credence except Credence can feel love but wouldn't Dumbledore realized the tragedy of Tom's backstory and relate it back to his poor nephew? He may not be able to save Credence but he could save Tom if he had noticed but that's just my observation

[@Havok0ne]

I would really love to see dark-themed series or movies about young Tom Riddle and his life when he was a student.

[@lucasholmberg5708]

The true villain in making Tom Riddle the most evil wizard of all time is the system. No school were you sort students into "houses" is ever gonna make a good school. "Houses" only encourage rivalry and teachers looking too their own house first. This makes students think they are either inherently bad or good right from the start. And some students who might have been best friends never even speak too each other, just cause they are in different houses. This is especially true if one house is "famous" for producing the most dark witches and wizards of all time. Tom was never given that chance to just be with other kids in a normal way.

[@newhybrid101]

Lets just say Dumbledores treatment of Tom didnt exactly help the situation. Intimidating a kid inevitably makes him crave more power as an adult,so he will be the one thats feared by others Not saying he would have been ok otherwise but Dumbledore made it worse.

[@victordonavon292]

Not really. The kid already showed disturbing tendencies such as terrifying his own fellow orphans, killing another orphan's pet rabbit by manipulating it to hang itself from the rafters- all without getting himself caught. Those are hallmarks of sociopathic behavior, and being exhibited at such a young age. So to say Dumbledore "made it worse" is like saying throwing a drop of oil on a chemical fire blazing completely out of control on an aircraft carrier made the fire worse.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Dumbledore not at least sending someone he trusted to at least keep Tom company was a mistake. What do you think Hagrid was with Harry for?

[@ARKUENE]

Great job! Maybe because I read HP books for the first time as an adult, I always looked at Tom with such pity and one thought: “What if...”

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

So Dumbledore thinking Riddle was dangerous CAUSED him to be dangerous? Self-fulfilling prophecy, anyone?

[@kcirtapelyk6060]

He was already dangerous before he even met Dumbledore. He tortured animals and other orphans for fun. There’s no saving someone like that.

[@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru]

​@@kcirtapelyk6060 You rather greatly underestimate the human propensity for change . There are plenty of individuals in the world who have themselves done the same things tom had did as a child and later grew up as good individuals . He did not torture but rather bully the other orphans , there are differences between the two words .

[@kcirtapelyk6060]

@@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru First of all, people rarely ever truly change. Sure some might modify their behavior, but at their core they’re still the same person they always were. And second, Tom hung one of the other orphans pet rabbit from the rafters. So yeah, definitely add animal cruelty to the list of his many crimes.

[@Tasha9315]

@@kcirtapelyk6060 People can change. Especially kids and teenagers. Like with Dudley, Draco and James, they are not evil people and improve as adults.

[@kcirtapelyk6060]

@@Tasha9315 Tom Riddle Jr. was a literal psychopath. Psychopaths are not made, they are born.

[@ursulawinkler5231]

I can see this point but I do think that despite Tom Riddle claiming he did NOT need anyone to help travel with him to Diagon Alley or help to buy his school supplies, Dumbledore SHOULD have still sent someone to assist him or at the very least accompany him, to help guide him to the way of the light vs the dark side.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

I think Dumbledore realized that mistake. Why else would he send Hagrid to at least keep Harry company?

[@ursulawinkler5231]

@@jasondyrkacz8270 exactly my thoughts. Realistically he should have known that could have been a problem with Riddle, not the extent of the problem but seeing that it could have gotten to be potentially that bad, much more actually not trying harder to bring Riddle under his tutelage or something. Although it doesn’t seem like anything Dumbledore did would have actually helped bc of the love potion Riddles dad was under when he was conceived, would have ALWAYS created a messed up kid that was ALWAYS going to be messed up.

[@steventaylor226]

riddle rudely took the money bag given to him by Dumbledore and interrupted him asking where to get a wand , why not use unbreakable vow to stop him being lord voldemort ?

[@ursulawinkler5231]

@@steventaylor226 maybe he thought just learning magic and being around other wizards and witches would calm him being a dick? Lol.

[@ursulawinkler5231]

@@steventaylor226 I think bc one he didn’t want to introduce or expose riddle to that type of magic but also I think he hoped Riddle didn’t turn out the way he feared he would hence the lengths he went to to make sure Harry didn’t. (Weasleys, Hagrid, etc.)

[@jmd1743]

The primary difference between Harry & Tom is that Harry got to see what love is, he may have not received it like Duddly did, but he knew about it enough to crave it, especially after he got to experience Ron's family's dynamic. Harry potter wanted to give his future child what he couldn't have received from his abusive adoptive family, while Voldemort wanted absolutely nothing to do with love because his experience with love was a perverse twist of love unlike what Harry saw with Ron's family. Voldemort could have turned out decent if he was exposed to something like what Harry got to experience with Ron's family. If it was Voldemort who got to experience that love from Ron's mother instead of Harry then Voldemort would have turned out to be a decent individual, he would need a lot of therapy of course. When children's protective services show up in child neglect cases they do give therapy. Maybe that's a big failure of the ministry of magic. Perhaps if Voldemort did know about his degenerate mother's family then perhaps he would have rejected the pure-blood nonsense in rebellion because he would have seen it as the root of his suffering. If Tom could have seen his mother rot in Azkaban for child abuse then maybe he would have wanted to become a Auror or politician who pushes to ban love potions?

[@crystalgazer8668]

Voldemort was born under a love spell, hence his incapacity to understand or feel love.

[@jmd1743]

​@@crystalgazer8668 Love potions are worse than the killing curse because the killing curse is an instant death.

[@crystalgazer8668]

@@jmd1743 yep, imagine a world/life without Love.

[@delta.6160]

@@crystalgazer8668 That was just an allegory, Rowling said that in Universe Voldemort became evil because he was never knew love. The love potion he was conceived under didn’t make him biologically incapable of love. OP is correct.

[@mmiller21157]

His mother's love is what shielded him from Voldemort's curse as a baby. So love was a part of his life from the very beginning. He was also shown love by Mr. & Mrs.Weasley. Who loved him as much as one of their own children.

[@heshammahfouz5916]

Seems that Tom's main goal was to become the most powerful wizard in history. He saw Dumbledore as a rival he wanted to surpass. This is why he was aloof and secretive around him, and was so determined to go further than Dumbledore - namely in the dark arts.

[@buntina35]

I feel like if dumbledore became his father figure we wouldve gotten a chifu-tai lung kinda situation, and dumbledores love for Tom as a son wouldve blinded him to see the bad in him.

[@Yams-Hams7734]

Omg, yes! That’s what I was thinking too! It would’ve been interesting to see, though.

[@mikenash7049]

I wonder if it would have helped if Tom had been sorted into a house other than Slytherin? He may have been ambitious and even cunning at the age of 11, but there may have been other qualities, more submerged, that could have pulled in a different direction. Hermione, with her intellect, could have been in Ravenclaw, but the Sorting Hat recognised her admiration of courage and put her in Gryffindor. If there had been any yearning for true acceptance in Tom's mind, the Hat could have put him into Hufflepuff, and that may have taken the edge off his ambition and showed him the value of true friendship and loyalty.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

There’s a theory that Tom Riddle Sr WILLINGLY had his way with Merope Gaunt, just because he can, then abandoned her.

[@michaelodonnell824]

That theory comes from Women who REFUSE to admit that Women can be Rapists and Abusers. Merope Gaunt KIDNAPPED Tom Riddle Senior. She then compelled him to go through some form of Marriage (which, whatever your religion, NEEDS BOTH Parties to FULLY Consent). She then Repeatedly Sexually Assaulted and RAPED Him until she got what she wanted - Pregnant. Then, and ONLY Then, did she cease feeding him Date Rape drugs! She was a multiple Rapist who called it "Love". If that's not evil, I don't know what you call it?!

[@George-Hawthorne]

I highly doubt that was the case seeing as Merope wasn't much to look at.

[@mrinalini9112]

@@George-Hawthorne that's wrong, rape isn't about looks. But the OG comment is it senseless as it's clear in books she used love potion in hopes that he'll fall for her.

[@plzleavemealone9660]

No. Why can't we have female rapists in stories without making up excuses for them? Why can't we have male victims without trying to make a story up where he was the bad one. She drugged him and raped him because she was obsessed with him. That's it.

[@Yams-Hams7734]

@@mrinalini9112 it’s more about control, and given the fact that Tom Riddle Senior’s family were also jerks, it wouldn’t be a stretch.

[@eduardonevesreis9299]

Voldemort and Harry were raised in similar ways. Both were raised without loving parents or real friends, but Harry had to endure an even far worse treatment from his uncle, aunt and cousin. But only Voldemort became evil. Why? Because people are different. Tom Riddle gave hints of lacking empathy since his early childhood, when he was said to torture and hurt his orpahange colleagues. If he has raised in a loving home, he probably would became a snobbish, selfish and cold man. Just maybe not a criminal or murderer like he is now, but he still would be an unpleasant person. Because some people are just born like that: fucked up in the head. I imagine Umbridge as having the same mental condition as Voldemort. The only difference is that she had an "ok" family. That's why she didn't became a dark witch like him, but still turned out to be a cold, uncaring person. Lack of empathy is usually a trait inherited from birth. A healthy education can shape it and minimize someone's psychopathic tendencies, but not erase it completely.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Harry had friends after Hagrid's initial visit.

[@nocap8881]

Ummm Ron and Hermione plus Ron’s family and Hagrid and several others were Harry’s friends

[@eduardonevesreis9299]

@@nocap8881 just after he was 11 years old. Before that, Harry was totally alone. And Voldemort displayed evil tendencies even before that.

[@126644]

It was actually because Tom was conceived with a love potion. If a baby is conceived via a love potion they will be born without the ability to love.

[@claireconolly8355]

It’s all based on attachment theory. Tom never could have changed. All his damage was done in his first 3 years of life.

[@jorgecarbajal8076]

It’s interesting to think about what kind of influence Dumbledore could’ve had on Tom if he tried to develop the same kind of mentor and student relationship he would later have with Harry.

[@eranshachar9954]

Interesting point of view on Dumbledore-Tom relationship. Yes Dumbledore could have supported him, and it might have looked different but it doesn't mean he wouldn't have become evil. But I always thought he saw Horace Slughorn as a father figure. Somebody could have been a role model for him to differ from right or wrong, not just Albus Dumbledore but no one did anything for him on that level. Dumbledore could have at least told him about his Gaunt heritage, although the Gaunts were a heritage to be ashamed of.

[@patrickdematosribeiro1845]

Did Dumbledore know of this heritage when he met Tom? He might have simply been told that this child had magical abilities and had no idea who Tom's parents were. Dumbledore may have found out much later when Tom Riddle became a threath and he started researching his background.

[@lesleyschultz6846]

Slughorn could have been more of a father figure to him too and maybe there were other teachers and students who may have been able to give Tom some sense of being included and worthwhile. It's not all on Dumbledore to mentor him but I think he wasn't headmaster at the time but likely teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts. One would think that Dumbledore might have been somewhat clued in that Tom was way more interested in the Dark Arts and how to do dark magic rather than defending himself against it and could realize that Tom needed some help. If Dumbledore couldn't take Tom into his confidence then surely it would be a public service to try to get another teacher to get on Tom's good side. Slughorn was uniquely qualified for that.

[@eranshachar9954]

@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 Look in the 1st meeting- No he didn't know about Tom's heritage. However Tom told him he can speak to Snakes. And while not confirmed how quickly he figured it out, Dumbledore knew that the ability belongs to the lineage of Salazar Slytherin himself. And he knew it was the Gaunt family who were direct decedents of him. So I think he found out rather quickly. Nevertheless he could have been a compass for Tom and he decided not to. One of his biggest mistakes.

[@Joreel]

The only reason Dumbledore took such an interest in Harry was because he needed Harry to be strong so he could sacrifice Harry for the good of the prophecy. He didn't need to like that for Tom.

[@eranshachar9954]

@@Joreel Well said man and I would add the line "for the greater good." However Dean is 100 % right, he could have helped Tom be a better person and instead he peed on him even before he became evil. So now I understand even better Voldemort's hatred towards Dumbledore.

[@andakin117]

we do also have to keep in mind that while Tom Riddle was in Hogwarts, Gellert Grindelwald was causing havoc across the world. I personally believe that Dumbledore likely saw a lot of Gellert Grindelwald in Tom Riddle. which may have been why he treated him the way he did. afraid that by encouraging the young Tom he would create another Grindelwald. I would personally like to see the young Tom Riddle approach Gellert Grindelwald in the next Fantastic Beasts movie seeking to join him. only for Gellert to look at him and see the monster he will become then shun him. one more possible parental figure abandoning him. it's easy to think of Dumbledore as a paragon, but part of being the mentor character they have to make mistakes for the next generation of students to learn from.

[@annap2523]

This is an interesting take and scenario (Tom Riddle meeting Grindelwald).

[@andakin117]

@@annap2523 It just makes sense to me honestly. Tom is already confirmed to have traveled to his family home while school aged, and I believe he graduates in 1944. Grindelwald is defeated in 1945. Who better to learn magical secrets from then the only man Albus Dumbledore fears? Tom would have needed to learn the killing curse as well as how to make Horcruxes at some point. likely from someone. another idea would be that Grindelwald takes the young Voldemort under his wing much like he does with Credence. Grindelwald already knows Voldemort by name and knows exactly who he is upon first seeing him. (though that could have been an educated guess on Grindelwalds part. who else exactly is going to come to see him locked away in that tower.) personally I prefer the former to the latter. it makes their meeting in The Deathly Hallows that much more meaningful. after 50 years Voldemort still just doesn't get it.

[@lynnerose7891]

Grindelwald and Voldemort explicitly never met until Voldemort murdered Grindewald.

[@andakin117]

@@lynnerose7891 was that stated in the Deathly Hallows? it's been at least a full decade since I last read that one.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

@@andakin117 Tom graduated in 1945 the same year when Grindelwald was defeated. The brutality of the first wizarding war was based on Grindelwald's failure. Voldemort told his followers that to create a pure blood regime the old regime need to be torn down.

[@tapuchris3329]

I don't know why, but the backstory of villains have always intrigued me.

[@laceyowens2367]

This is an interesting perspective :) . The back stories of characters like Tom Riddle/Voldemort strangely fascinate me. The kid didn’t exactly stand much of a chance of being a normal person

[@DryBones271]

Tom Riddle was the fruit from a poisonous tree. While his Mother wasn't evil, her father, and brother were very much so, and His father and his parents weren't necessarily evil themselves, there were rich, snobbish and rude (Frank Bryce's words). Tom Riddle would have needed to be loved unconditionally Harry's parents were to him (while they were alive anyways). But he wasn't. He was admired, but also feared.

[@michaelodonnell824]

Yes Merope Gaunt WAS Evil. She Kidnapped, sexually assaulted and repeatedly RAPED Tom Riddle Senior, and called it "Love" That's EVIL!

[@patrickdematosribeiro1845]

Given what his mother did to his father I have trouble saying she was not evil. Being abused might be an explanation for becoming an abuser but not an excuse.

[@DryBones271]

@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 not evil, more of desperate. She wanted a better life than she had.

[@eduardonevesreis9299]

@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 yeah. People romanticize Merope too much. What she did to Tom's father was basically rape. She was ready to enslave a man who had his own family and a whole different life into marrying her trough a love potion, just so he could fufill her need for "love" and "care". Plain selfishness. I'm not saying that she's evil as Voldemort or other villains, but she wasn't a good person.

[@patrickdematosribeiro1845]

@@DryBones271 She could have got a better life by escaping while her father and brother were in Askaban. Forcing a man who didn't want to to go with her and sleep with her was very dark.

[@alwaysplotting2096]

Don't be too hard on Dumbledore. You can't expect him to just step up and play surrogate father after getting his sister killed.

[@sanhcman666]

Agree. One of several things i dont like about albus dumbledore.

[@jamieA7Xfan90]

was Albus actually the 1 to accidentally kill Ariana or was it someone else/a combination of any of the 3 boys involved in the duel?

[@alwaysplotting2096]

@@jamieA7Xfan90 His poor choices are what led to her death. That's why I said getting his sister killed and not killing his sister.

[@abdirahmanidris290]

@@alwaysplotting2096 well he didn't know that Grindelwald would use the cruciatus curse on his brother

[@robertsmiley2207]

The things u highlighted in this video is exactly why I compared Anakin Skywalker to Tom Riddle they both could have been saved the only real difference is Anakin had a redemption moment but everyone had given up on him and accepted him being evil

[@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi]

The blame starts with the Aurors who arrested his grandfather and uncle while ignoring the abused Merope Gaunt. "Oh well, you are abused and we could probable even find someone to fix your eyes...But F that. Being self righteous is better than actually doing good things". Left alone in a shack she did what she did. Helped , housed in Hogsmead, educated...her son might have had a different father , a different life, etc

[@Asher-Tzvi]

When Tom was young, he'd lead other kids from the orphanage to a cave (the inferi cave where one of his horcruxes would later be placed) and would mentally torture/abuse them. I don't think there would ever be a timeline where Riddle didn't go bad. He was born not from genuine love, but from a false connection fostered by magic, and so he himself would never be capable of understanding love. It was even shown in the movies that when he invaded Harry's mind, the feeling of "love" that Harry felt towards his friends genuinely cause Voldemort to experience physical pain

[@DavidMacDowellBlue]

Maybe. But hindsight is nearly always easier than foresight, and keep in mind Dumbledore was not a father, had never been a father, and failed as a caretaker--to his own vast regret. What might have worked was if Tom Riddle had been adopted by a wizarding family at a very early age--by the Weaseleys for example. Best if his mother had stumbled across them, given birth, then was raised among them with love.

[@icydoodle3877]

When kids are constantly leaving to new families and you're stuck watching them leave one by one, never being chosen for a family, you might ask why. Plus when growing up Tom lived in an orphanage it was during the Great Depression and immediately after he went for his second year at Howard, WWII broke out + everything with Grindelwald. (There's a lot that could be talked about with parallels between Riddle and Grindelwald and Dumbledore, but I wanna focus on the child.) When you're faced with harsh times and adults don't give you the time of day until you go to a magic school and they praise you for your spellcasting, the only love you've ever known is the artificial amazement and praise from power. Not trusting adults, chasing power, and creating your base of morals on your own when suddenly you realize you're the heir of this founder of Hogwarts who was powerful and had a set of morals that didn't conflict with what Tom learned about life already... It's pretty understandable how Riddle turned out the way he did.

[@sethdon1100]

1:56 there is only one problem with this: if Merope Gaunt uses the imperious curse on a muggle surely the ministry would have been known and arrest her?

[@johnslade9751]

It really shows one of Dumbledores faults, he saw himself and Grindlewald in Tom and got afraid.

[@balbert24]

I think Albus may have indeed seen a lot of himself in Tom Riddle in the fact that Tom was such a skilled wizard at such a young age as Dumbledore himself was. And believe he not only saw shades of himself at that age but also of Gellert and Dumbledore selfishly decided to not become a fatherly figure to Tom in fear he may set another dark wizard on their way, but in choosing to do what he thought "was right, not easy" turned out to be a bad move with Tom Riddle who did need a father figure to look up to and aspire to be like.

[@user-qj9qe7bq5v]

your videos put a smile on my face.

[@skilljoy9246]

I think your initial statement is correct, Tom was doomed from his birth. However someone like Tom is just inherently evil. If dumbledor were to catch Harry stealing I think he would have said the same thing to Harry that he said to Tom. Harry however wouldn’t let this be a hatred for dumbledor but a learning experience instead. Tom was given parently figures throughout his life but still chose darkness. Some people can’t be saved.

[@livinglargeonasmallbudget1027]

I thought because he was conceived because of the love potion he was incapable of love. Not that Tom thinks love is unnecessary but that he was unable to ever feel love or understand it. I guess I always thought that Tom could never truly be anything other than evil because he cannot feel love and only knows hate. He hated everything about his life so he created a new persona to become and that persona of Voldemort was the vessel that carried his evil nature to new heights.

[@panspermiapancakes]

There is nothing Dumbledore could have done to steer Tom in the right direction. While it was unintentional from Merope, her tricking Tom Sr. into taking a love potion had consequences when it came to Tom's birth. He was incapable of basic human emotion from the moment he was born. His parents love was not genuine, it was manufactured and forced. The magic involved in his creation essentially cursed him or "damned" him, depending on which way you look at it. This is all heavily reinforced at the battle of Hogwarts, before Voldemort dies. Harry pleads with him to find a little remorse for everything he has done, Harry is attempting to give him once last chance to repair his soul because Harry seen what was in store for Voldemort once he passes away. He attempted to make Tom feel something, anything, that resembled remorse, but he still wasn't capable of doing it because he can't. Is Voldemort a victim in any real sense? Since that seems to be the point of the video... I would say he is only a victim of his mothers poor decision making in her desperation. She didn't know all the consequences that come with her deceptional magic so I don't want to make it seem like I entirely blame her for what her son became because it was unintentional, but her actions still lead to the consequences of Tom's birth and behavior. People should consider the love potion because it is a form of deceptional magic being used inside of a potion to create fake feelings of love. Tom Jr was under the influence of that magic during his conception.

[@realjoemavro]

A person's biology and upbringing can only be blamed for so much, otherwise no one with mental illness would ever be guilty of anything. There has to be some accountability on Tom's part. Franken Stein from Soul Eater is a character who was full of unhealthy, possibly even downright evil thoughts from a very young age and yet he fought that part of himself for almost his entire life.

[@panspermiapancakes]

@@realjoemavro I agree with you but Tom had negative consequences from a love potion. He is still accountable for his actions which is why I said the only way he could be considered a victim is from the aspect of his un-natural birth, which was entirely out of his control. It's mentioned he didn't even cry during his conception if my memory serves me correctly. But the point I was driving at was he stopped being a victim once he started making his own choices. The content creator was making it sound like he's a victim and I was explaining the only example of him being a victim was the love potion and his birth. lol Beyond that, he's not a victim in the slightest.

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

I never liked the "he was born bad and could never understand love because his mum tricked his dad" narrative. It runs exactly counter to the whole "it's your choices that define you" notion that gets brought up again and again.

[@JackiePerkovic]

This video was so interesting! Thank you for making it!

[@GGG_CheeseQueen]

Huh, never thought he could have been stopped, interested to finish the vid. I'm sure it's great work as always 😁

[@darthseverus89]

An interesting idea and I agree with your sentiments at the beginning of the video thank you for another wonderful upload good sir I eagerly anticipate your next no pressure please take your time quality is better than quantity in my humble opinion.

[@vibingthings]

I wonder what would of happened if Tom Riddle senior took in Tom Riddle Junior- and actually raised him

[@vermiciousknid2456]

Considering the Riddle family were rich snobs I doubt it would be that much better.

[@mrinalini9112]

I would not say that Tom was doomed from the birth but maybe he was. We know this that Psychopaths and sociopath have different brain chemistry than normal people... but most important thing was not stealing. It's what he did to those kids in the cave. Children can be indeed mean and bully but that was beyond normal cruelty. It was like he was fated to be doomed

[@lucasisthebest-hp3js]

The thing that you said in this vid confused me I thought merope gaunt couldn't really use magic that well could she even manage to perform the imperious curse (sorry if I spelled the spell wrong)

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Her magic was suppressed until her family were arrested.

[@TheRayvolution]

I think about Tom Riddle Jr. so much I had to start writing a story.

[@chessmaster1212]

Love how years later we think about new ideas of what could have been. Legendary book series minus cursed child 🤢

[@SergioBecerraII]

I still want to know how Tom Riddle found the chamber of secrets when he was at school.

[@TheSaneHatter]

From what I've observed in real-life stories, the worst villains, madmen, and psychotics all seem to come from a *combination* of inborn mental deficiencies and traumatic life stories. Tom Riddle was, alas, a textbook case. On the one hand, while it's been pointed out that Harry had a similarly bad start in life, but turned out better, I'd point out that he wasn't born with the Gaunt family madness in his DNA. Conversely, Luna's no monument to mental stability, but was raised with real love and kindness, and still had some valuable friendships. Tom needed a two-part interventionist strategy, including both the kind of mentoring that's hypothesized here, but also some place to go besides back to the orphanage when he wasn't at Hogwarts: just having a "host family" like the Weasleys could have changed everything.

[@SailingKaiser]

While an interesting topic, I have to disagree. Tom Riddle was conceived under the effect of a love potion, which completely removed his ability to feel love. I don't think any kind of loving family would be able to change him or his goals.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

JK Rowling said that if Merope hung on and raised Tom, he would’ve become a better person.

[@SailingKaiser]

@@YellowBear-kx1ff Really? I've never heard that before.

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

@@SailingKaiser the same can be said if someone adopted Tom and gave him love and affection

[@Shadow74soldier]

Agreed. Basically Merope SA'd Tom Riddle. Young Riddle was not conceived in love, has never felt love nor is capable of feeling love. Nothing could have been done to save him.

[@lights_utopia1130]

Well some people irl are born without being able to feel emotions as all that's where ya get psychopaths the like.

[@Misterray1]

Harry does tell Voldy "you are the one who I feel sorry for, you will never know love or friendship" (that last scene between them in Order of the Phoenix) Also I'd like to add that maybe Dumbledore decided to be involved in Harry's life because of what Tom Riddle became when there was no positive role model in his life (a trait that Harry could have potentially shared with Voldemort) Albus learning from past mistakes makes sure Harry knows the value of love and friendships, and makes sure to give him some wisdom towards the right direction.

[@beardedpanda5086]

Could she have used the imperious curse? Maropi wasn’t even formally trained in magic. You think she could have the control to do that curse?

[@Ola-jz7oj]

In Hogwarts legacy there's a guy, Ominis Gaunt. He says he hates his family for torturing muggles for fun and forcing him (by said tortures) to do the same. Taking into consideration Marvolo was probably his brother, Merope was homeschooled in similar manner.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

I have to say the bad bad thing. I think Tom Riddle, in my opinion, is a pure psychopath. No amount of love or nurturing could save him. I think his hatred for himself and his race is so big that it would be impossible to change his perspectives. However if like Slughorn, more professors and students tried to teach him in Riddle’s style of learning, he could change his perspective of muggle borns and half bloods. But I still believe with his mind, he would accept muggle borns and half-bloods in his cause. I think he would always find some cause that would cause war no matter who he accepts or not. I also think with psychopaths like Riddle, they can still twist right or wrong. They know why their actions are wrong, but they may not care. They focus on their needs and wants. But it was interesting seeing his friendship with Slughorn because it came from mutual respect and learning.

[@HarryPotterFolklore]

That's the other side of the coin...good point!

[@sparklefulpaladin]

I think Slughorn, as flawed as he was, at least tried to help Tom and to connect with him. That’s more than Dumbledore did.

[@jorgnocke991]

@@HarryPotterFolklore who was the first where Wolf in the Harry Potter universe and how the disease came about?

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

@@jorgnocke991 are you talking about fenir greyback and than he bit Remeus and than bill?

[@malachifranco7594]

Love this channel.

[@ZeoViolet]

Also, by the way, why aren't there more results of one-night Love Potion Oopsies running around? I seriously doubt Tom Riddle was the first result ever of a child conceived under a love potion. They are so easily accessible it's not even funny. I somehow do not think all such results end up in Slytherin.

[@animeguygaming4803]

Loved it made total sence still keep it up bro

[@LostBrit_292]

Due to the 'trace' being able to pick up on underage magic, the Ministry of Magic surely must have known about him (also assuming this is how Dumbledore knew where to find him to inform him that he's going to Hogwarts). Is there really no magic-world equivalent of an orphanage that could have taken him from the one he was in? Surely it wouldn't have been difficult for wizard-kind to get him out of that orphanage and into one of their own. If he did go to a wizard run orphanage, maybe he wouldn't have developed such a high 'superiority complex' (abusing those around him who weren't magical) and would have been prevented from/punished for using his powers, the way he did, on the other children around him. This might not have fully prevented him becoming Voldemort, but it could have helped him be less evil.

[@mr.narrator6781]

Random question did you ever release the Life of Tom Riddle animated series?

[@dexterjustice8749]

Dumbledore saw a lot of his younger self in Tom Riddle in that both Dumbledore and Tom Riddle were incredibly skilled wizards at such a young age, and also saw shades of Grindelwald in Tom Riddle and treated Tom Riddle the way he did out of fear that by encouraging Tom Riddle he would set another dark wizard on their path, but by doing what he thought was 'right but not easy', made a fatal mistake with Tom Riddle who needed someone to look up to and view as a father figure.

[@gerardocovarrubias3058]

To be honest Dumbledore should have killed them when he was a kid just like Avatar Roku should have killed his long time friend Fire Lord sosin

[@adelinevlogs2506]

and sought power so he could never feel that way again. I mean, growing up in an orphanage where he was alienated for being different, there was a high chance that everyone made fun of him until he started scaring them, and thus learning that fear was a good way to protect himself. Growing up the middle of a war, he would have feared for his life at any given moment and would have developed a natural fear of death desire to become powerful like those who controlled the war. Then came realization he wasn’t ‘weird’ like he had been told his whole life, but even in the eyes of another wizard (Dumbledore), he was still being treated like he had done something wrong before he even did it. Coupled with the discrimination all Slytherins face, then how the Slytherins must have treated him horribly at first, thinking him a Muggleborn, every part of Tom Riddle’s life was set against him from the start, and he was never shown a world where he was allowed to be vulnerable and trust other people. Dumbledore certainly didn’t help when he told a boy living in the middle of a Muggle war that he was not allowed the safety of Hogwarts despite most of the magical world probably being safer in the face of the Blitz. Hogwarts was also part of Tom’s heritage, in all technicalities, he could have been allowed to stay because he was the Heir of Slytherin, and Dumbledore knew this. Tom had been denied the safety, reassurance, and stability he craved so much since birth, over and over again by adults and treated as ‘different’ his whole life, leading to his distrust of people and desire for power. I think there were many things that could have changed the course of his life, but his childhood ultimately would not have changed regardless of how Dumbledore and those at Hogwarts treated him, because the orphanage trained him to crave power and care only for his own self-interest. On the other hand, Harry grew up a lot worse than Tom, being treated like a slave and probably being abused by the Dursleys, but unlike Tom Riddle, the Dursleys became an example to Harry of what love and caring was like. Harry craved something he could see and define, and despite being alienated, Harry was made to be naive due to how the Dursleys attempted to dumb him down to protect Dudley’s self-esteem. Tom had no such example, and so he thought: ‘If I don’t have it, and I’m doing just fine, doesn’t that mean I don’t really need it and it’s not as great as everyone says?’

[@maddyg2320]

Totally agree! 👍

[@kfgold5194]

I think Tom didn’t have a chance. I agree he was never meant to be born. His callousness and inaccessibility to experience love was the magical “karma” of being conceived via magical compulsion. The child born of magical compulsion and not love is born damaged in their ability to experience love. I offer 3 cases of circumstantial evidence in addition to Tom, yea, some are a stretch, but… Leta was conceived and born while her mother was ensorcelled away from her true husband by Leta’s father. Leta had that piece missing. I think Newt was kind and patient with Leta because he somehow understood that his love was unrequited because Leta was constitutionally hobbled in the ability to love. His love for her was selfless. It did not require reciprocation. It was a gift. I bet she might have even married him, and not his brother, but I think Newt is a man of the heart and while he could love her, he needed a life partner who could love him back. It might even be that he fixed her up with Theseus. THE BIG MOMENT when Leta said “I love you.” before going into the blue fire was not a mystery as to who she said it to, but a triumph of knowing the feeling of giving love due to a profoundly loving pair of brothers nurture. The next two are intertwined and highly speculative. Goldie deeply loved Jacob. Was it a potion or something else she cast on Jacob that manipulated him. Even though Jacob loves her, Goldie has demonstrated she has boundary issues in term of manipulating Jacob magically. We’ve had tons of speculation that Goldie is Snape’s grandmother. Could it be that Snapes mother was a bit ‘love hobbled’ as Goldie messed with Jacob and may have been magically forceful about starting a family? Snapes mother also would only have Goldie as a magical role model, as Jacob is not a wizard. She would have learned her magical morals from her. Maybe Snape was very ‘love hobbled’ by how his mother dealt with his muggle father, magically speaking. Lilly was SO IMPORTANT to Snape because love did not come easily to him as an adult. It was only the innocent love of childhood that he could experience. “Always” could have also been because it was “Only”.

[@ladyD2005]

Try to keep in mind a character’s back story Is often sad and interesting at the same time depending on their situation I forgot Tom was born into the world without ever knowing his parents just like Harry but that’s where the similarities end Harry experienced (shown love)not from his aunt and uncle but from the Weasley and Sirius Tom on the other hand grew up in wool’s orphanage from the time he was a newborn just a lost lonely unloved uncaring adult child

[@defeatSpace]

I think Dumbledore is the way he is with Harry and other students by learning from his mistakes with Tom.

[@Splashstar216]

I think you're forgetting that due to being born of a love potion, Tom was born w/o capability to love. He was essentially soulless. It wouldn't have mattered his upbringing. He still would've been a power-hungry evil tyrant. JKR herself didn't want to really build on Voldemort's reasons for his evil-doing, she just wanted to write about a pure evil 2-dimensional type of villain.

[@zpeebels]

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[@karlharvey4806]

I wondered this or along these lines, like it would be good to see films of how he developed into who he is, almost like a Harry Potter version of revenge of the sith lol

[@JokerScribe]

Umbridge video misses one thing, but it is vital. remember...She was wearing a horcrux, which would be akin to a voldlemort possession. We saw that happening to Ron weasley, when he was affected by one, and Harry Potter, when his mind were poisoned by a dormant horcrux inside him...it creates hate, it poisons their minds. Perhaps the reason you don't see her after that horcrux was destroyed was the hate was gone. Even the characters mention her being this hateful because of the horcrux.

[@Larka661]

In my belief, once Tom learned about magic he wanted to better himself. Then there's the concept he could talk to snakes. And I think that confused him for a while, until he looked into Salazar Slytherin. Who was the most famous parseltounge in history, he was a very powerful wizard too. Tom found himself in his great great great grandfather or whatever, thus putting him on his path to power. And he wanted to be more powerful than any wizard before him. And we all know, the more power you seek, the blinder you become.

[@Njuregen]

I big spot is could Albus do that back then? Even to Harry Potter it not came naturally to him all the time, Tom was 50 years earlier in his life.

[@TheDisasterPuppy]

I clicked right away. What a great topic, Dean!!!

[@shado2us]

The fact that he was conceived while his mom was taking a potion, Tom couldn't have any kind of feelings of love!!!

[@nocap8881]

Tom Riddle was conceived by way of love potion, he was tainted from the beginning due to love being a key factor in the relationships in the HP universe

[@starwarts4556]

What if Merope Gaunt had instead used transfiguration spells to alter her appearance, and had not used the Love Potion (as well as quite possibly the Imperius Curse) on Tom Riddle Sr?

[@jonwashburn7999]

I agree with this theory.

[@Chief-Remeldian-Olympus]

I think the main reason Albus didn't look after Tom was do to guilt over his sister. Second would Albus make a good foster father or mentor to Tom? That is similar in Avatar when Aang was asking Iroh to teach him Firebending. Iroh repay I am not sure if I am right teacher for you. Albus failed both Harry and Tom. The Love Charm is not just related to blood. We see this clearly at Battle of Hogwarts. We make our own family. The Love Charm would been strong with Sirius Black over Petunia Dulsey any day. James and Sirius where spiritual brothers which is far more powerful of Love Charm then blood sister sibling of Lily and Petunia. I find it funny that Tom and Harry are distant cousin that line up well with prophecy. The universe does have funny way of bring balance. The Dark Lord well mark him as his equal. Both come the same pureblood lines, both have similar suffering, both are half-blood and both where born with a *Failed Love Charm.*

[@A.D.540]

he was so powerful that he died at young age being defeated by students.

[@katemichael4002]

I think dumbledore only helped Harry in the way he did because he felt he created Voldemort. Tom and Harry were very similar minus the love potion conception but Dumbledore always looked out for Harry to make sure he would be taken care of at least in minimal ways in the beginning. He wasn’t ready to accept that he could have been Voldemort had he chosen to continue the path he walked with grindlewold but by the time Harry came around, he knew that he narrowly escaped being Voldemort and wanted to prevent another. It wasn’t out of love or kindness, it was out of fear

[@TheRealRehman]

My personal head cannon is that one night before opening the chamber of secrets for the first time, young Tom riddle couldn't sleep and took a walk around the castle and found that he had been steered towards Dumbledore office and part of him really wanted to go in and talk to Dumbledore but after taking a few steps he turned back. Little did he know their was a dejected Dumbledore waiting in his office with 2 cups of hot chocolate.

[@D50Music]

I’m like Tom, I was raised by my mother who was a cruel tyrant and I never knew my father, the difference? I can love, I know what’s wrong and I know what I need to fix 👌🏼

[@Arlecchino_Gatto]

This is quite the interesting video. I find it EXTRA interesting because I am on a read through of the series. I started Deathly Hallows a couple days ago.

[@MikkaVelli1991]

I doubt that Merope would have been able to perform an imperious curse, even if the target was a muggle. It's highly suggested in the flashbacks that she was either a squib or severely lacked magical ability.

[@darkseeker9548]

Before I continue with this video, is the animation a new thing? Is it permanent. Kind of liking it lol

[@jkrause365]

Good video. Pretty thought provoking, as well. Not sure, but might there be another novel here, to be written by someone other than JK Rowling, with characters as described, but with different names during another era at Hogwarts, or Ilvermorny?

[@Aeluron]

I am not on board with well Harry Potter being destined to go after Voldemort(Or as you put it the universe keeping voldy in check via Harry). However even in the most realistic of situations of a boy like Tom who just remembers being in an orphanage(And that kind of life isn't really good for a child). Like take out the Magic world and the kid would probably still get in trouble and follow a similar path. Its not necessarily Dumbledore's responsibility to watch over him but....if he's doing bad things, technically there is some imperative to teach him right and wrong. This would also apply to the people at the orphanage. TLDR: Tragic past can lead to really bad futures if people around said child aren't diligent in making sure the boy/girl is raised right.

[@damasek219]

Well he's very fictional character so he could as well have been destined to take dark path because the author has freedom to do whatever he wants with fictional characters. In real life nobody's destined for dark path but Voldemort came out of Rowling's imagination not from reality, so she just made him incapable of love to save herself the trouble of making him somewhat pitiful.

[@andreihlen7597]

it's not dumbledores job to take the role as a psychologist, but he certainly needed one

[@josephwatson1931]

Your point is well taken. But I had a theory of my own: Tom came to Hogwarts s fully practicing dark wizard. Who trained him? Gellert Grindelwald operatives. Like Al Qaeda Gellert Grindelwald had use for orphans. Grindelwald was aware of orphan Muggle-borns in Muggle orphanages. He then sent operatives to approach and train these abandoned Magical kids. Tom Riddle was especially talented. When Tom was approached by Dumbledore he was trained to conceal his knowledge of his nature.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

Tom first learned to conceal his nature after his meeting with Dumbledore.

[@rnp497]

you have to recall Tom was tormenting and torturing his fellow orphans before Dumbledore arrived. Coupled with the stealing and his words I think Dumbledore was right to avoid getting to close to a clearly dangerous and manipulative person

[@23yodoomer14]

And that's why Slughorn hadn't died by Voldemort.. The only teacher that showed him some interest

[@thesynergyofblood]

Although he was likely to always grow up with that darkness given how his life was to that point, it's possible that given the right guidance from Dumbledore maybe, and encouraged to participate in activities with the shy kids so he felt he was helping others, his life could have been very different. Proper integration into the magical World, into Hogwarts, would have given him the structure his life needed. So he may have become a teacher later (defence against the dark arts so he could research darker magic and find ways to protect against it). But if he felt like the people at Hogwarts are his family, even just a few of them, would he have then stood with them against Grindelwald? We could have had a Grindelwald-Riddle duel with Dumbledore trying to defend both his ex boyfriend and his pupil from the worst of each other's spells! It's also possible if Riddle was being guided by Dumbledore and treated like a son then Grindelwald may take notice (he was jealous of Newt's relationship with Dumbledore) and might then decide to manipulate Riddle into joining him to protect himself and even (force?) Dumbledore to intercede (just to have Dumbledore's attention for a time?).

[@MasterOfTheElements]

There is a fic about this called Rectifier in which Tom is the defense teacher and he and Albus are friends and Tom views him as a mentor.

[@tylersmith9465]

I wish to hear more about Dumbledore Tom riddle childhoods👶🧒👂

[@mattwatson4017]

I think that the real reason Tom left slughorn alive is bc maybe in a way unknowingly to him, but slughorn was a small father figure.

[@CiabanItReal]

I don't know if Merope was capable or knowledgeable enough to do the imperious curse, she probably just had a snake bite him near the home using parseltongue, Tom Sr freaks out, she tells him it's poisonous but not to worry because she has the antidote (which was the love potion)

[@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110]

I agree with this.

[@michaelbatson8170]

I think he couldn't change. Harry never tried to get back or hurt people that are mean and treat him badly. Tom was already in printed with if he could he would. So no redeemable traits at the point of Tom and Dumbledore first meeting.

[@Nan01040]

it seems Tom born that way, the fake love had its effect on him ! i feel like EVEN IF Dumbledore tried, Tom will still be stubborn boy which let his hatred guide him to destroy :(

[@elizabethoneill8612]

Maybe Tom Riddle could've been saved, he could've been adopted by a good wizarding family and could've been raised to be a good person, but it didn't work that way for him, it's not really his fault that he turned out to be a powerful evil pratt, but that's how it worked out for him, Harry Potter was raised by his non magical family and they treated him like a slave and one that had a freaking debase and a total embarrassment, but they were the embarrassment, but Harry turned out to be a pretty decent kid, and grew up to be a decent young man and father,

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

The dementor attack was probably the best thing that happened for Dudley.

[@grandmastergibbo4975]

Should make this a what if would be interesting