New Rule: The War on the West | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

Why is it that every other culture gets a pass, but Western civilization is exclusively the sum of the worst things it’s ever done?

[@insertname11]

I'm not generally a big fan of Bill Maher, but here he's spot on. I'm tired of pretending there's nothing good about my culture, nothing to be proud of. I'm glad to be a descendant of people who built up Europe from the ashes of the Roman Empire, who took great ideas from the Greeks and Christians and synthesized them into modern Western philosophy, people who built Gothic cathedrals and universities, and who spread their ideas all over the world and ultimately, as the crowning achievement, put the man on the moon. There's nothing wrong with recognizing the beauty and splendour of these great thousand years of Western civilization. The question is, what do we do with everything our ancestors built and left us? How do we proceed into the future?

[@oldsalt8011]

Bill Murry is a good one to listen too.

[@ExtremelyRadiant]

Pretending?? 😂 You are ashamed of your heritage?? I spent 20 years teaching different culture students and they loved their heritage. Why wouldn't white people, too? ❤

[@anotherguy5038]

John 14:21

[@EeeEee-bm5gx]

You have been pretending? Stop pretending, start thinking and consider not overcorrecting in the other direction.

[@vangough10]

He's actually smart, but he's stuck on the Dems vs Cons politics and has not yet caught on that it is bescially Establishment with their gullible minions vs the anti-establishment.

[@colegreen1291]

Once there was an age of reason, now is the age of stupidity.

[@LLandS18]

I'm a Canadian and I work a lot with children and adults in abusive situations. And there's a wonderful activists in canada. She wrote a book. It's called unveiled how western liberalism enables Islamic fundamentalism. And she has a saying I'm not sure if it's her saying or she's heard it somewhere else. But that's why I heard it from. It is sometimes their minds are so open that their brains fall out. And I feel like this is the case here. Honestly go give her book a read or a listen. It's fantastic.

[@waltonsimons9082]

Ah yes, like that grandiose time 50 years ago when two sides were threatening to blow up the world. Or that time 80 years ago that a bunch of people died. Or that time 110 years ago when a bunch of people died. Or...

[@heterophony2]

I never thought I would applaud Bill Maher, but when someone gives acclaim to Locke, Rousseau, and Emerson they deserve my respect. I would have mentioned Montesquieu, Kant, and Hegel, but that’s the point about Western civilization: there’s such an abundance of greatness it’s impossible to be exhaustive.

[@Jay-sg9qz]

you know he has a team of writers don't you - and Google

[@zimmer9999]

Bill is not a reader of world history. It's like his writers just googled some fancy names but they don't even bother to pretend to not be western-centric. The ignorance and arrogance in this bit is mind-blowing.

[@stephenhill8178]

Do tell@@zimmer9999

[@ariankarimi952]

none of those figures have anything to do with Israel. He is full of shit.

[@MeleanDialogue]

They would turn in their graves if they saw how democracy is decaying

[@PeterDB90]

I'm a naturalized citizen (immigrant) and I'm proud to be American and it irks me that people who are ashamed of this country are able to hold federal offices.

[@InservioLetum]

People that CLAIM to be ashamed. While such behaviour might suggest the concept of shame has lost all meaning to them, the discrepancy between their bloviating and their actions, suggests shame may never even have been taught to them in the first place. Speeches are well and good, but easy to falsify. Actions, on the other hand, are far more tedious to fake.

[@kurtchamberlain4311]

Who thought the day would come when I, a very conservative person, would agree with Bill Maher on a number of things.

[@je2338]

When the law of common sense began to be questioned, people from all ends of the political spectrum had to stand up

[@user-je3kx6fw7e]

After the libs attacked Israel Mr. Maher finally woke up! Isn't it great that he is actually funny again!

[@dmitryspivak4586]

Don't worry, Maher being critical of the hyper-left does nothing for the hyper right. I'm sure he hates your ideas just as much.

[@trooperdgb9722]

Any true liberal is closer to being a conservative these days than a Leftist. Not because THEY have changed...but because the left has drifted so much further away. I too am a Conservative... a pragmatic one I think...which means, yes, I DO find common ground with many classic Liberal ideas....

[@InservioLetum]

Thank you for saying so. While it may not be aparent, your endorsement matters. Thank you for siding with reason.

[@cpuuk]

Problem is Bill, a reasoned argument only works if you are talking to reasonable people.

[@bg943-ik8vu]

Enlighten us. How exactly is this a reasonated argument? He says in the video that the partitioning of the land has been decided by the UN so why exactly is Israel still in the West Bank? Also the Palestinian Authority is a secular movement (None of the Islamist BS he mentioned in the video is applicable there), while Israel is an ethnocracy so I'd argue that it is pretty far from being a "western outpost". You're all just confusing supporting Palestine and supporting Hamas. And if you're for an apartheid state that has different sets of rules for different people, then you should definitely read more about the conflict.

[@HJK242]

​@@bg943-ik8vuPalestinians never excepted that splitting land offer and instead attempted destroy Israel with the help of other Arab nations. So Palestinians lost that land in war they started 75 years ago, maybe they should get over it

[@AJ-yw7hf]

@@bg943-ik8vu - As I understand it, a 2-state solution was offered/proposed in the past but Yasser Arafat / the PLO wanted everything instead of a reasonable 2-state solution so they said No. Although I support Israel's right to exist, I'm not saying I agree with *all* of the area that Israel has been in. Also, I think a lot of Palestinians would be happy for Hamas to go away. A lot of people here (who see Maher's videos) do Not confuse supporting civilian Palestinians with supporting Hamas. See below: It is a UNIQUE type of situation when killing-machines were built to put millions of a certain ethnicity/religion of people into the killing machines to genocide them. The Jewish *people* were persecuted around the world for thousands of years until finally they lost 6 *million* persons of theirs who were *murdered* on purpose by Hitler & Nazis. The fact Jews decided they needed a homeland to survive of *course* means that Israel is mostly for Jewish people, *However,* Israel allows Arabs who live in Israel to vote. In fact, there are a few Arabs in the actual Israeli government, in the Knesset. So many "Muslim" nations *force* people in those countries to be Muslim or pretend to be Muslim. Israel does not outlaw people living in Israel from having their own religion. Israel DOES have much more western values than Muslim theocracies.

[@bg943-ik8vu]

@@HJK242 Yeah right, when France lost the entire country to the Nazis they should have "gotten over it".

[@HJK242]

@@bg943-ik8vu my country lost land in WW2 and 400k people got relocated, so did many other countries. Still getting that land back by killing or chasing off people that been living there now, wouldn't be better than losing it. It's not like anyone who actually lived there is even live anymore, same thing with Palestinians. And their hate for Jewish started way before Israel even existed, Palestinians even allied with Hitler to get help for their genocide

[@halrichard1969]

Well Done Bill as always. This is where to go for a laugh and some reasurance that we are not the only ones with the same point of view.

[@bg943-ik8vu]

If you need someone to reassure you that you're not an idiot. Now's the time to ask yourself the right questions.

[@halrichard1969]

@@bg943-ik8vu hahahahah what an asshole.

[@giltuito1545]

​bg943-ik8vu how does it feel to be an apologist for terror?

[@charliedillon1400]

This is basically the same point Monty Python made in the "What have the Romans ever done for us?" skit.

[@ydne]

Rome made a radically unorthodox Jew named Herod from Petra the ruler of the Jews for the Romans. Herod had a divorced wife, who John the Baptist lost his head over by criticizing because divorcing wasn't the way of the Jews. A guy name Jesus, who was baptized by John the Baptist, was on Herod's bad side, maybe because of the John the Baptist thing, and was also killed by Herod asking the local Roman official to allow Jesus' execution. This led to Santa Claus.

[@iandhr1]

The Aquaduct?

[@ciscornBIG]

​@ydne Still part of the greatest story ever told but the last line seals the deal 😂😂

[@Costa_Conn]

Except Bill ignores ignores the contributions to astronomy, chemistry, mathematics and medicine that came from "the Middle East".

[@MAHAN1755]

Ok you seem to know a lot. Can you also explain the Easter Bunny.

[@cmw3737]

The over simplification of everyone either being oppressor or oppressed really does explain the idiocy that comes out from people who see through those black and white tinted spectacles.

[@franciscomap75]

​@VRM885, it's not a gradation it's a nuanced look to the world there are many more societal motors then only oppression

[@ori1676]

Now the pro Palestinians call you a Zionist Mossad agent lol

[@themadmattster9647]

Including Maher. He has just as oversimplified views.

[@Johnnybgood76]

​@@VRM885You can be "oppressed" in some areas of your life and an "oppressor" in others. Example: A subservient middle manager to the C-suite execs but a domineering authoritarian with those under them or at home with their wife/ husband, kids, etc.

[@stegfucius6679]

​@@VRM885 Can someone be both oppressed and an oppressor?

[@SharonN-tj7qi]

Bill Maher is a legend. I love him.

[@richhenry8004]

The problem is not that kids have crazy ideas. The problem is that certain adults have figured out how to put those kids in the harness and are currently using them to drag society off of it's tracks for some (best i can gather) nihilistic purpose.

[@ddha0000]

er...............have you see trump supporters? they are all over 50. think you should worry more about that generation.

[@richhenry8004]

​@@ddha0000 Almost everyone I admire is over 50. I have a lot of respect for that generation. You can try to poison the well by characterizing them all as "trump voters" but that wont work on anyone who actually knows them. Sad tactic really.

[@ddha0000]

@@richhenry8004 well, i didn't say all over 50s are trump supports. the vast majority of trump supporters are older and they are by far the biggest security threat than anyone and biggest threat to democracy and society, not a few college kids. thats my point.

[@erickolb8581]

@@ddha0000 based on what evidence? I'm going to snub any social media reference because anyone can fabricate anything on it. The same could be said for MSM since they only report information paid by the highest bidder. That leaves you with baseless conjecture.

[@Rays_Bad_Decisions]

Democrat indoctrination, kids didn't have those ideas on their own. China paid the DNC and bought influencers on social media. Destruction from the inside.

[@erichadamoschek9662]

This one was so important that Bill didn't take his inoculating swipe against Republicans until the very end.

[@KinevW]

The irony of course is, warts and all, Rs are far better defenders of Western Civ values than today's Ds.

[@yash1P83]

He has to do it otherwise Nuts-In-my-yahoo will take away the private security he has from Mossad or it’s ex-IdF soldiers.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

All he did is spew nonsense and lies and he knows who he works for

[@countdebleauchamp]

And an accurate swipe it was. And the points he made in the remainder were valid as well.

[@Lexlosofone]

Just at the end, come on

[@Abdulkga]

I am an American citizen now, and I am very proud to become one. I know people from around the world will sell their kids for an opportunity to come and live in the West. I never heard of any African, Asian ,Latin American who wants to emigrate to Russia, Iran, North Korea or even China. Of course the West isn’t perfect, but comparatively there’s no other region that’s even close.

[@danli5771]

You might want to research Steven Seagal :-)

[@yonatangoldman9759]

Nonsense

[@hengchen6688]

@@ah9034 how did you think america has the best economy?

[@themouthofsauron6926]

​@ah9034 American culture is the exact reason why the U.S. became the economic powerhouse it did. Example: there's a McDonald's in almost every country on earth.

[@similaritiesendhere]

@@themouthofsauron6926 Funny how you compare U.S. culture to McDonald's unironically. Looks like defunding the education system is working.

[@drchristopherdicarlo2691]

Since 2005, I have been fired from 4 universities in Canada (yes, liberal Canada) for teaching Critical Thinking. It saddens me to see what academia has become; instead of a place where a diversity of ideas can flourish and be challenged by inquisitive and respectful students, it is now, sadly, a business which panders to the demands of petulant clients.

[@KonstantinGdalevich]

Canada is becoming canadaSTAN

[@richardcheese9429]

If you taught critical thinking and weren’t a white man, trust me. You wouldn’t have been fired. Canada is extremely hostile towards white men. And it’s going to get a lot worse than just firings.

[@AstralPixie]

Well said.

[@Rays_Bad_Decisions]

Indoctrination over education how will they have a generation of SA brown shirts unless they get them early. It's not by accident it's by design

[@Ultimita01]

yeah im in a canadian university, i call bs lol we make fun of the american system for this very reason. Edit: Maybe the only place I can think of is in like waterloo or ottawa. Come out west and id be surprised if youd get fired over 'critical thinking' theres probably more to it. I am an old liberal for context, not this new age craziness.

[@mjkirk12]

"To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child." - Cicero Today I would add: a "narcissistic" child

[@user-qk7eg2ek1l]

I was raised liberal and led to believe the world began in 1492. Thank you Bill for giving us a longer historical perspective.

[@MetalHeart8787]

I was also Raised Liberal also & Still am LIBERA, a REAL Liberal. the people on the Right / even maher should really Stop calling all the crazy idiots on the left "liberals" theres Nothing Liberal about hating Free speech. Im Liberal & Love America & the Flag. I just think our Government is really Stupid, just like many of the people in America & The world / Europe especially the idiots who protest All the Time.

[@user-rs4ci3fn2d]

You were raised a leftest. Real liberals believe in freedoms of the individual

[@user-qk7eg2ek1l]

(chuckle) Were you witness to the conversations that went on in my household during the days of my youth? How could you possibly know whether I was raised liberal or leftist?@@user-rs4ci3fn2d

[@UNCHART3DGAMING]

Try Dr Thomas Sowell on “Uncommon Knowledge” - 93yrs of age and 40+ books later on history & economics that should be taught in high school and universities

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Problem is most liberals of Today aren't actually liberal

[@enriconono3638]

This wasn't a conservative or democratic speech, it was about common sense and respect for human life and values, something soooo simple and soooo underrated at the same time.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

No it wasn’t it’s bunch of lies and propaganda

[@johnrhodes5914]

Respect for human life???? Human's do not respect human life.

[@seto_kaiba_]

This isn't common sense-its circular reasoning.

[@enriconono3638]

@@seto_kaiba_ What is so unreasonable in the message that many of our rights and freedoms originated by western civilization when he quoted actual history ? Please give me a real and logic explanation about your comment (and insults don't count as answers).

[@seto_kaiba_]

@@enriconono3638 The problem isn't looking at Western civilization and the rights and freedoms it championed. The issue is ignoring the bad aspects of Western civilization or pretending that objectively Western countries like Russia aren't Western because its narratively inconvenient. The logic used is circular and made to artificially create this dichotomy between Western civilization and others as the West exclusively has these values and when counterexamples exist you just say "Oh well they're Western now". Its very circular reasoning and in general a really bad way to look at history. There is PLENTY of good things about Western civilization to admire without all of these mental gymnastics.

[@joeberg3317]

Refreshing! Agree, sick of western civilization as a bad word.

[@naverno]

Israel is not western or civilization. You should have gone to college when you had a chance.

[@therealcirclea762]

In part, thanks to people like him. _For years._ How quickly people forget hmm?

[@isaacm2374]

I agree. But I always found it bizarre how people take achievements of ancient Greece and Romans and claim it as their own. Just because you adopted the ideas of their people doesn't make it yours. You don't see every Asian claiming the achievements of the Persian empire. Some Black Africans do that with Ancient Egypt and they are correctly mocked and wrong for doing it.

[@venanziadorromatagni1641]

It’s weird that often the argument for opposing ideas of Western civilisation is that it is (still) not available to all people. That’s a race to the bottom, to the detriment of all. JJ Rousseau had some pretty great ideas about the equality of men and some pretty horrifying ones about the treatment of women; and Mary Wollstonecraft rightfully criticised him for it. But she never argued that his ideas should be scrapped because he didn’t attribute those rights to everybody, but rather she demanded that they be *expanded* because women have the same will and demand to freedom and self-realisation as men.

[@b-meaker99]

I don't think it's necessarily "Western Civilization" that's considered the bad word, so much as " genocide"...

[@user-di5xo8tp7f]

Dude I've been finding serious comfort in Bill Maher's broadcasts these days. PROPS for mentioning John Locke!! Also, I seriously need to see some activists' reactions to Hamas' attacks on video--in full.

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[@Gramatica_en_TI]

Ok, but the other side is killing babies, christians, muslims and even Jews that don't agree with the goverment of Israel!!!

[@evanr1784]

What makes you think that conservatives don't want to toss gays off buildings?

[@malachi-]

Chief, you better read over your comment a couple times, you are one of the extremist.

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

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[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

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[@TheGuggo]

Having born “Western” and having lived in China for 12 years, I am so glad of being “Western”.

[@ThePoliticrat]

Spoken like a true Faustian Man.

[@isaacm2374]

How are you born western? What nationality are you? At least being born Chinese makes sense as you have an ethnicity and nationality. That's like saying you're born Asian or African. Doesn't really narrow it down does it?

[@AJ-yw7hf]

@@isaacm2374 - Hi Isaac. I disagree with you. I can't speak for @TheGuggo , but s/he almost certainly meant s/he was born & raised in a country with a 'Western' culture such as America, Canada, or a European country.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@@isaacm2374 - Enough people in the States of Asian extraction ( yes, some more specific ethnicity ) refer to themselves often as "Asian". Even if born and bred in the U.S. making them an American, they often short-hand to their deeper heritage. Which people might just do all over the world. Consider context and consider whether it is a serious conversation or informal banter between friends and acquaintances. When traveling to the East, then saying "I'm a Westerner" makes sense in that context.

[@JessJoanne]

@@isaacm2374 Western was written in quotes. And they happened to live in China for 12 years to compare is all. You aren't trying to say that people born in a western nation don't have an ethnicity, are you? 'White' people is really just garbage. Means nothing. And Western can mean many ethnicities. Like German, Norwegian, Italian, Japanese...etc...

[@donsloan2075]

"But apparently they don't teach this at Drag Queen Story Hour anymore." Brilliant.

[@ElektraKid83]

God bless our European culture and scientists, philosophers, and artists. 🤘

[@BlueBaron3339]

From Douglas Murray to Steven Pinker to Sam Harris - all of whom have undergone attempted "cancellation" for noting this glaring *absurdity* - the fact that you can condemn the so-called West is a very western idea. And the idea of using humans like tissues or paper towels is not.

[@steve19811]

Because we don't teach that certain cultures/belief systems are better than others.... It's glaringly obvious....

[@mountainair]

Hear hear!

[@cw4623]

All great minds and authors you mentioned. Love it! 👍

[@BarryMerson-zr1sv]

Make a loud noise quietly.

[@leepd1]

And if Hitchens was still alive, he'd be leading the charge.. but, as Sam Harris highlighted.. "Its hard to argue objective logic when nothing of the sort exists in the first place".

[@markritchey3768]

I've been a fan for years, but gave up on bill for years. But even he now can't hide from the truth. I'm a supporter of him because he speaks his mind and I respect that. You don't always have to agree to know he is a real American. Lov you brother.

[@shawna3394]

Palestine conquered by Israel? They could not be any luckier.

[@GodzillaGachaGPT]

You know, it's funny, he said nobody would ever study John Locke in college anymore. Meanwhile, just last week, my English class went over John Locke.

[@gedonckers]

Locke is thankfully taught within philosophy courses. Very lively discussions in scholarly literature

[@matthewmongiello5811]

Bill has a really poor handle on what Colleges actually teach. Locke, Rousseau, Mill, Fed Papers...all taught across multiple disciplines.

[@gedonckers]

@@matthewmongiello5811 Exactly, with no issue whatsoever. I guess there are some instances of things he refers to, but let's not lose our heads just yet.

[@Malepresentingtimelord]

@@matthewmongiello5811If there’s even 1 example of a college taking western civ off of their registry it’s cause for concern. It’s so fundamental for understanding how we got here and who we are. The trends of agricultural, industrial, and political revolutions are unique to this one part of the globe. Trying to mash it in with other expansions of civilization is dimwitted and an affront to all things right and true.

[@prisfontoura6589]

Locke stoled Spinoza ideas.

[@istvanfoy-roberts868]

@@matthewmongiello5811 Don't take it so literally you miss the point. He was referring to the overwhelming number of recent college grads who know nothing about these great thinkers and even go further to denounce their ideas which were instrumental in forming the very society that allows these wokies to go to college and be stupid.

[@brndxt]

I am a Canadian of Asian ethnicity, and in the search for things of excellence, be it science and tech to arts and literature, or even in terms of philosophy, ideology, governance, justice, liberty and freedom, and regardless of where or from whom such excellence originated, many, if not most, items have come from the West, the US included. Not that other regions and other people hadn't contributed anything, but in recent centuries, it had been the West, even if at times the good stuff were brought about by less than honorable intent and ways.

[@ricodelavega4511]

imagine putting that all into practice with a real bad diet, The agricultural diversity of the americas certainly contributed to the health of those anemic and frequently emaciated masses who sailed across the atlantic to the shores of the american contintent.

[@CalmDownClown]

the segment seems to be about Gay French White men , im missing bill's point not why he idolizes them .

[@974724]

While I understand your point, it has to do with how the West teaches its own authors. Research has long found notable contributions in all of the mentioned domains in other parts of the world (eg most astronomy, algebra and geometry came from the Middle East). It's just that these contributions were then either also independantly found in the West, and the West credited itself with its discovery, or was passed on to the West. Not to say the West didn't invent anything, of course they did. But research on the matter suggests a reality way more contrasted and complicated than it would appear to the layman. Most societies have come up with different ideas, and influenced each other, and so on. You should look up the state of the scientific litterature on the matter, it's quite interesting.

[@renoirrandy7241]

Bullshit! the so called west in responsible for most of the atrocities and theft of recent history. All of Europe us considered West, do you know what they did around the planet? Even now those who have a different ideology are punished with sanctions and other forms of destabilization.

[@ita221]

And jews, specifically, don't forget it

[@user-st5cs3fq4y]

Oh, Bill. You are one of the few free thinkers who can cause full belly laughs to me. You really are a breath of fresh air amidst a putrid stench of the lies that cloud the minds of the left. Thank you for your wit and wisdom. It must be that genetic mixture you have-you mongrel. What a glorious mix you have. Thank you and God bless you, your family, your friends and your work.

[@Rays_Bad_Decisions]

Kinda true he still has Trump Derangement Syndrome and can't accept the DNC fabricated evidence that led to Russiagate in a coup attempt even though he's been told multiple times on his own show even by all of the panel one time

[@fredmac1000]

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[@Koriian]

It’s time to stop apologizing for making the world a better place for more people than any other civilization

[@marshalLannes1769]

Make woke people live in middle East for 2 year and see how many of them survive...

[@ChineduOpara]

​@@marshalLannes1769We can barely survive one day without avocado toast.

[@shecat1964]

Are we really a better place though? It does not seem to matter how civilized we are supposed to be, we are not and its geting worse by the year.

[@redliondeaddeer]

​@@shecat1964are we in a better place than we were 400+ years ago? I'm sure you can answer that for yourself. If it's getting worse, vote and affect change. 400+ years ago, your only option was an armed revolution. Today you have voting.

[@optimistaurus]

Just because you are able to buy a car and watch a big screen tv doesn't mean the world is better.

[@ricardotrindadebarretto1321]

Great episode as always. The world today in one word: INSANITY. The beautiful Western institution called UN, just nominated Iran to preside the Human Rights forum for now -- how about them apples?

[@RobberClobber]

How much do you think they paid for that position :X

[@xumbacampos1844]

Answering with a question in what I take to be your language (or one of them): tá de sacanagem, né? Translation for English speakers: you've got to be F*!ng kidding, right?!!

[@Bat_Boy]

A key concept in the Age of Enlightenment was “separation of church and state”. Unfortunately, the Middle East didn’t get the memo. And if the Age of Enlightenment happened today, it would be smeared by Republicans as the Age of Woke.

[@steve19811]

The United Nations hasn't had integrity in a long time. They say one thing but are not effective in the slightest....

[@abdulhananhusein6459]

certainly... and UN made resolutions.. applies to all but Israel.. somehow this one is permitted to by pass every moral clause written by UN

[@peggyford3801]

Sounding more and more like a conservative.

[@ibuydigital1574]

Whatever the fuck that means.

[@greenlaw6503]

Reason? Yes, it worries me that only conservatism is today the voice of reason

[@brandondurbin7484]

There's a reason why there's a saying that those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it, that's why all history good or bad should be taught without bias.

[@XYZ-bi9eb]

Bill Maher nails it again. I enjoy the way he criticizes the extreme left and right. most people in amurrikkka are just in the middle, reasonable, and open minded--not rabid maga fascists or delusional woke idiots.

[@Hirnlego999]

That's BS, Trump is an enemy to western values and he is doing well in the polls. And American GLADLY support just about any dictatorship in the world for as long as business is good. And pretty much all of you have your own versions of WOKE, you've been fighting this BS for decades.

[@rianmacdonald9454]

Although from the news reports that is kind of hard to see - but it can be eventually.

[@MK-je7kz]

Not really. Like the creation of Israel. Yes, it happened in the United Nations, but at that time Palestine was a British colony (mandate). Bunch of people at New York just decided to give someone's land away and local people wasn't consulted. It wasn't very democratic decision even if it was made in the UN.

[@Trill-ux3pf]

Hmm is that why they're making people choose sides

[@3825cmac]

@@rianmacdonald9454 because that’s what gets the most clicks. While the far ass right or left IS the minority, they speak the loudest.

[@paintqueen1]

I totally get your point. Especially in the contents of comedic value. However I think the outrage comes from any regime unnecessarily killing innocent people. I can not believe that every single Palestinian or Russian during this current time of war is evil and does not have opposing views from their government. Most people are just trying to survive and are trying to be good humans whatever the narrative they have been spoon fed. Just try to imagine if the rest of the world waged war on the US for some of the shady practices cCongress, Senate, corporations, and media promote for personal interest and power. Probably 70% of our country would have no idea whats going on and why were being attacked. Many innocent people just trying to make a living and have a decent life would die that did not sign up for any politics. Our crime was being born here! Artists, great thinkers, craftsmen, farmers, inventors, and so on would be eliminated! I understand war has rules.. This is so complex and hard to make fun of. We can't just get rid of or bomb so called barbaric cultures because there are always valued dissidents in every culture. The bigger narrative from every government should be peace and prosperity. Greed and power runs the world and I fear it is too late to reset!

[@payleryder45]

Four weeks ago War Crimes committed by Ukrainians against Russians were good, sometimes comical, and always justifiable because PUTIN! This week the same War Crimes committed by Israelis against Palestinians are bad. Prior War Crimes committed by Palestinians against Israelis either didn't happen, were exaggerated, or were deserved. Where will the "mainstream media" be on the War Crimes front in a few weeks? I'm a betting man and even I wouldn't lay a wager.

[@nelwoltz7]

Why is it that I was instantly reminded of the “what have the Romans ever done for us” scene from Life of Brian? 🤣

[@virtualenvironmentfellowsh6671]

Breathtakingly refreshing ❤ The historical enlightenment inspired my wbole team. Cheers 🍻

[@greatmightypanda]

I still remember my history first year at uni (not US thankfully for my bank balance) and one of my modules was the Rise of Islam and it was 10 weeks of studying a tidal wave of blood from Arabia to Spain. We also had a module on the rising and falling of Africa's empires, most of which were self-inflicted falls. We further had modules on pre-colonial China and India and the way they were constantly in civil wars, fracturing and reforming, growing tyrants and religious conflicts. At the same time we also looked at western civ and the same patterns existed. Pretending most of history isn't fucked up beyond belief is so childish whether left or right. Pretending colonialism is the only evil in the world and that westernisation is a terrible thing is stupid; so is pretending western civilisation has always been a bastion of goodness and rights even post-enlightenment (if we consider the West to be the legacy of the Greco-Roman tradition it has produced as many dictators and tyrants as it has stable democracies) and even so-called bastions of democracy like the US and my own UK haven't the best history for good democratic practices at home or abroad. It's only in recognising how shitty history actually is that we can do better, but that means also recognising progress where it happens which a lot of colleges, especially in the US, don't seem to support doing. It is also important to note that universities are not monoliths of thought - even people within the same school's of thought spend most of their time sniping at and undermining each other and that filters through to a very dumbed down undergraduate curriculum because you can't have your lecturers contradicting each other every other week. I don't know what the university assessment system is in the US at the moment, but in the UK (especially in the humanities) testing is usually very open ended for this reason - if you actually did all the reading and your own research you'll probably come away with a very different answer to even someone else who did that same reading because there is freedom of interpretation in the UK system.

[@Myinmi]

Most erudite and several interesting viewpoints enlarging my knowledge. Thank you.👋🏻💖

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

What? U seem like a genuine perosn show brainwashed what u said about the “rise of Islam” African empires, yes colonization is the a great evil also what does westernization mean? Everything bill said is nosense and lies

[@senyogbedawo2771]

I guess the scripts of Timbucktu would give you a different history lesson. Biased History is a sad way of enlightenment.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

⁠@@Myinmino he just spewed lies and propaganda but he seems like a genuine person who is Brianwashed, also colonization is a great evil

[@stevejordan7275]

I'd give it this comment two thumbs up if I could; thank you. Though I did uni in the US and got three degrees for about $8K by taking as many classes at community college before going to a state university. Why don't more people do this? Maybe you can only get a BA in Women's Studies at six-figure campuses...but what can you possibly do with such a feckless degree? Other than work at Starbuck's, I mean.

[@nikitamcconnell8027]

Couldn’t agree more. I lived in Russia first 30 years of my life. Now i live in USA. Americans don’t appreciate how lucky they are, to be born, educated and live in western civilization. With all due respect to all world cultures, western civilization is simply superior.

[@seto_kaiba_]

Russia IS part of Western civilization. This is what the problem with Western jingoism. It ALWAYS conveniently leaves out bad ideas or countries that are fucked up even if they are Western. Western civilization refers to Europe and European derived cultures.

[@user-hf2dr7sh4y]

Yeah I love my country and I'm happy when I hear people also originating from a different perspective love it as well. Unfortunately, we always have the exceptions to the rule. I recently had seen a video of some Americans that moved to Russia and seemed to have a greater appreciation for that manner of more traditional and conservative living. Imo that form of living is forced upon most Russians whom could never truly elect anything other than that, but they maintain the argument that in prosperous cities of Russian capital such as St. Petersburg or Moscow that it works to enrich Russians, and they simply don't have to change to accommodate the left, or any immigrants not wanted, et cetera. For some reason America's imperialism is always used against us to unilaterally disarm and weaken us, even though nations like Russia have taken just as much part in it as America has in Siberia and even in Alaska at some point, and arguably succeeded more in it. Russia is literally the wealthiest empire still around today. It may not be the smartest empire, but potentially the wealthiest it surely is. Never mind that that wealth is hoarded by the Russian capitals of Russian culture which keeps all other districts and republics poorer, to the point men in those regions have to resort to joining the military to go die in Ukraine, just so they could potentially make a better living back in their homes.

[@WheelsRCool]

@@seto_kaiba_ Russia is not Western. It actively despises aspects of Western civilization and has never adhered to Western ideals. It was instead grounded in the very anti-Western ideals of people like Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

[@nikitamcconnell8027]

@@user-hf2dr7sh4y simply put, Russians are being manipulated and fooled - their government succeeds in keeping people in poor conditions because of conditions were good, 1) oligarchs would have to steal less and that’s not an option 2) you can’t have good conditions in a non competitive governmental system.

[@bobbykiriakidis9753]

@@seto_kaiba_NO RUSSIA IS NOT PART OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION. You are missing the main principle here and that is DEMOCRACY! Never ever has Russia been democratic. Your people kill each other and have done so throughout history. When you are not killing each other you are invading other lands and usually getting your asses kicked. You fight like other mongrels in that you throw numbers at your enemies hoping to overcome them. Subhuman tactics by a non democratic sub human non western civilization you are

[@andrewfairbrother259]

A brilliant, reasoned monologue. The trouble is, woke ideology is like flat earth ‘science’. You will never convince a fool of their foolishness.

[@HenrykGutmann-kr9tn]

Thanks a lot for the praise of the Western civil achievements and for keeping this war into a correct perspective!

[@AlwaysRight1776]

FINALLY…. Someone smart enough and brave enough to say it.

[@laozhai]

Smart and intelligent and clear minded person Bill

[@BoCaine]

thats the complete opposite of whats happened to Bill. In his rage and ignorance he's cast the whole idea of standing with the oppressed to an asinine and obscene level of "supporting terrorists" when all that most of the young people are saying is, stop the occupation, starvation and genocide which is funded by AMERICAN CITIZENS' tax dollars.... @@laozhai

[@2ndArmored]

I think this is my favorite New Rule segment since I've been hooked around 2013. Thank you Bill for standing up for Western Civilization!

[@camplethargic8]

It's intellectually dishonest to tout the contributions of Western Civilization, and simultaneously ignore all the harm it has done.

[@BobCassidy]

He's completely wrong. There is no free speech or religious freedom in Israel. To liken the kip to Europe or the US is a joke.

[@yvonnehorde1097]

What else can you do if you have a clear mind?

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

​@@yvonnehorde1097yes you're spot on but knowing it and saying it are different things. He's going against parts of his audience and is no longer a darling of the left - we know how quickly and viciously they turn on any slight heresy! I have nephews and nieces who this will reach in ways that what I like to watch won't. But you're right and I loved your comment.

[@ImmyYousafzai]

What about the 4000 children?

[@SN-sz7kw]

Well done. It’s called perspective & it does come with age. And travel. And exposure. And a broad, challenging education.

[@CMA418]

It does not always come with age, though. Everybody ages, not everybody grows up. Growth requires change. Change causes uncertainty. We resist uncertainty. However, not all change leads to growth. Sometimes it’s simply trading an old comfortable couch for a new comfortable couch.

[@AstralPixie]

And, you didn't include a fundamental part -- that your perspective changes when you put aside childish things (indulging in movies/games/opinions), put aside your feelings, to instead shoulder the burdens of responsibility, duty, and sacrifice, in order to accomplish things.

[@travisadams6254]

So good, bill. Thank you for this.

[@brianahuerta3699]

“Women there should be so lucky to be colonized by anyone else” 🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@lf9341]

haha!

[@Julie-qr9ow]

62% of Palestinian deaths are of women & children. That line was incredibly misogynistic and distasteful.

[@lf9341]

@@Julie-qr9ow Accoriding to who? Hamas? Have you seen their fake propaganda posts where the " dead" are moving?

[@brianahuerta3699]

@@Julie-qr9ow truth hurts

[@sloppychefmusic]

​@@Julie-qr9ow women have rights in Israel. They have no rights in the rest of the middle east. Way to confuse the issue

[@Ghost_PM11]

The march in support of Gaza, finding out the hard way that the LGBT flag is not welcome amongst the people they defend, it has to be one of the most poetically beautiful moments caught on camera this century.

[@RyuLongRHOG]

Feeling empathy for the downtrodden, even if they are on the supposed opposite side of you, is the mark of a good human.

[@EDD519]

or an idiot ?@@RyuLongRHOG

[@mayoarm11]

hypothetical or happened? link?

[@CenterThePendulum]

@@RyuLongRHOGBlind empathy is for morons. Recognize when your good intentions have unintended consequences that outweigh the benefits. See “Portland” for further details.

[@ar1sm70]

@@RyuLongRHOG Feeling empathy for people who wish to throw you off a rooftop for being born "wrong" doesn't make you a good human, it makes you a moron...

[@robertbolder5319]

Bill Maher if you ever come in the Weatherspoon in Sheffield I owe you a drink. Spot on!!!

[@khalideltayeb3429]

"Punishment should not be cruel and unusual" collective punishment in Gaza. am I the only one confused by this!

[@rokkitserjun]

As a classical liberal, I sometimes agree with Bill and sometimes don't. On this one, he's 100% spot-on. I love it when he calls out the insanity that has become Clown World.

[@rcchristian2]

He's pretty spot on. The part where he isn't spot on is, that Israel is the aggressor. Palestinians are different than Hamas... Hamas is just a group that came out of free and fair elections. This is the right wing muslim world, taking over the population in Palestine. This is also the right wing Israeli groups occupying Palestinian land. Bill never elaborates but after the United Nations division of land, he doesn't even mention the 1960s war... which the land was decided. Israel has been ignoring those divisions and occupying new territories and kicking out more Palestinians. So even though we should stand with Israel, we should also stand with Palestine. Hammas is not Palestine. They are a right wing group that has taken over the Gaza Strip. The first time they gave Palestine the right to vote... they voted in Hammas... lol - but the election was very close. (like 3% difference. Now Palestinians have no choice other than to stand with Hammas.

[@BobSacamano666]

I usually agree on him with most things except for his bias towards Israel.

[@promark5317]

Classical liberal=I agree with everything conservatives say and do but i want to feel special and different.

[@TheSeizeOner]

he lost me on isreal is a democracy. literally for almost this entire year prior to this super convenient bailout incident occurring with hamas, isreal was going through issues with their criminal prime minister wanting to limit the powers of the supreme court so that isreal could become a defacto military dictatorship under his regime. it's almost like no one in america was even aware or even cared until the tv told them to.

[@oaperalta3]

How is he correct? Have this extremism always existed? What caused it? Who has supported it? Hmmmm…. This man is speaking knowing what happened but relying on the ignorance of history by the public. I love him too but everyone is capable of being biased

[@naohiro0425]

I was damn wrong for I thought this guy were much wiser and cleverer.

[@EyeFrine]

Freedom for all! Unless you chose to not eat, Dress, speak like us This world isn’t just for YOU!!!!!! It is a world for all!

[@AstralPixie]

Well said.

[@zerge69]

A civilization can do very good things and very bad things at the same time.

[@Dazbog373]

Yeah but some do more good than bad. And it's time we acknowledged that western civilization is just superior to the rest. Enough of this relativist BS.

[@user-vg2gk5fu9m]

OMG, How profound. I guess the judge of good and bad things is you. Correct?

[@srsr28]

Yeah no kidding. People with common sense that can think pragmatically understand this already. Are you perfect?

[@AstralPixie]

Yes, as can a person ;)

[@zerge69]

@@user-vg2gk5fu9m Yes. And you too.

[@dariusdaguerre3535]

I'm a philosopher, and I don't think I've ever heard the names of so many philosophers pronounced together even in a PBS or History Channel or other documentary-my God, he mentioned Cleisthenes!

[@LiveWatched]

aka a brokie

[@varoonnone7159]

Yes, Cleisthenes the forgotten hero who invented isonomia, the ancestor of democracy

[@BigSmella]

"I'm a philosopher" 😂

[@patrickjenkins6383]

​@@BigSmella 😄 Or: "I'm a Pornstar."

[@TheBarrypascal]

Emmanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable....

[@justinjustin2185]

Spot on! This isn’t about politics-it’s about the truth, and Bill spells it out so well here!

[@bettersteps]

The best of Bill Maher.

[@kenmac9048]

Just when I think Bill is never coming back, he renews my faith in his sanity.

[@echochamber1234]

bro, he's been quite consistent all along in criticizing stupidity on both sides.

[@Lmfaojesse6969]

Not really. He attracts zero new audiences. Coasting on boomer views until he or they die.

[@Soknik01]

​@@Lmfaojesse6969that's just factually false

[@Lmfaojesse6969]

@@Soknik01 really? I’d say based on your profile pic ….you’re late 40s or early 50s. How many millennial or gen z quote bill Maher? Lol no on even watches this dudes stand up. He had to beg his own staff to laugh at his monologues.

[@pigtailsandteddybears]

@@Lmfaojesse6969 Millennial here and I love watching Bill.

[@Ameborl]

This is why I put my daughter in a classical academy charter… a true liberal arts education. Whatever is going on now in public schools is trash.

[@CalmDownClown]

silly , you could have just had her watch Bill to think Gay White French men built the entire world . But then again Bill isnt a Professor or a Teacher or right

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

Tbh I don't think it's the public primary or secondary school that the problem. There just hasn't been that much change in curriculum at the k-12 level. It's a mix of social media and public universities. And public universities shouldn't be allowed to be Called public with what they charge now. I graduated SJSU a decade ago and now tuition is 4x as high as when I went.

[@lillagahnavich7700]

​@@thirdpedalnirvanawell best quote i ever heard was "school is the place that you send your kids to get raised by other kids" and in many states like my current one, which is top 5 bottom in schools is sooo bad and fst grumpy old ladies teach these kids nothing and with the rise of social media and kids being "online" that they all sound the same nowadays bc they largely are all ingesting the same content, its sad. a high percentage of girls and boys dont even make it past 12th grade without getting pregnant and then youre screwed bc these ppl never get a chance to grow and know themselves before their life is pretty much settled whether they stay together as a parent couple or not.

[@larrystolarick6814]

​@thirdpedalnirvana it's all over k-12

[@Bruceybaby2009]

I think it’s more post-secondary that might be the problem. What’s being taught on campuses….

[@mohammadhasibmohmand4089]

Lap dog always defends it's owner 🤣

[@fernandojackson7207]

Ah, nothing specific to say.

[@ElektraKid83]

In the 17th century Europe went through the century of enlightenment with various great philosophers who shaped our culture like Immanuel Kant who said:“have the courage to use your mind“ many cultures haven‘t arrived there yet and therefore there is no point in wanting to bring them „democracy“ they have to come to that point all by themselves and their own mind.

[@crustybone]

At that point in time their women didn't have the option to "have the courage to use your mind", right?

[@drinkmorecareless]

You can tell the younger generation doesn’t remember 9/11.

[@SJM6791]

Unfortunately, most of the ones who do support what happened.

[@HaleyMary]

The younger generation (Z) were just being born when 9/11 happened. It's history books to them, news archived videos, not something in their memory. They're not going to remember what it was like to be in a class in high school or university and then hearing the announcement over an intercom about planes hitting the world trade center. I still remember I was in high school psychology class that morning.

[@DyarContreras]

@@SJM6791very true. I was 12 years old when 9/11 happened. The politics of that time divided my generation…to say the least! I’m looking forward to seeing how badly Gen Z will screw up the world, in the future, 😂 Human beings are imperfect…always have been, always will be. The best thing to have happened in my life, has simply been to grow older…it’s definitely given me greater wisdom, and perspective. I’m against war in general these days, but at the same time, I recognize the truth behind most of what Bill Maher has said about radical Islam over the years… You can’t CHANGE other people, though….I think that’s what Bill is losing sight of. If I was a woman born in Afghanistan, I’d probably have to commit suicide in order to escape that sort of misogynistic hell. If it’s hard to change one person’s mind on something, just imagine how much more difficult it is to change an entire region of the world! Islam is always going to be around, methinks…the only questions that remain, are: how are we going to peacefully coexist with them? And them, with us? Here’s to Western civilization, so human beings can escape from the Muslim world, and immigrate over to here, if they have the opportunity to do so. I don’t pray, but here’s to hoping for a peaceful resolution to the Israel-Hamas war that’s currently happening…Shalom/Salaam

[@tritium1998]

The younger generation doesn't remember the Gulf of Tonkin event either. What's your point?

[@therealcirclea762]

@@tritium1998 That it changed the trajectory of the State. People became so enraged, and fearful, that war became feasible (the War on Terror), and gross violations of civil rights were allowed for the sake of "security." You know, like Tonkin.

[@StuntpilootStef]

Imagine thinking human rights are not universal. Really scary stuff.

[@tweetiebird]

Agree, if the "West" is the leader of all things, then were aren't these peoples human rights being protected by law as in any civilized country!

[@wade2bosh]

theres 50 countries that reject the un declaration on human rights

[@franciscomap75]

​@@wade2boshthat's scary AF

[@tweetiebird]

@@wade2bosh What countries are those? The purpose of the creation of United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights is: to protect the rights of people around the world Due to difference in culture, what considered as right or wrong between people in one country and the other could also differ. The universal declaration of human rights created an internal standard of basic things that considered to be 'rights' that must be upheld by all countries in the world.

[@bobbykiriakidis9753]

Most Muslim countries are not signing off on any Human Rights UN guarantees. That isn’t hateful it’s just a reality. Don’t hate us in the western Civilization hemisphere for pointing that out.

[@Antonio-yg7io]

“It’s not apartheid, it’s just a group of people under rule who don’t have the right to vote in parliamentary elections and who generally get treated as second class citizens “

[@modarnwarfare2rull]

Israeli Arabs have full voting rights, sit in the Israeli parliament and there are Arabs in the Supreme Court, what apartheid are you talking about ?

[@Antonio-yg7io]

@@modarnwarfare2rull I was talking about the millions of Palestinians living within Israel who don’t have those rights.

[@modarnwarfare2rull]

@@Antonio-yg7io Which are ? You mean the ones in the West Bank ? Who refused receiving full autonomy ?

[@Antonio-yg7io]

@@modarnwarfare2rull they were never going to get their own fully self governed state, which Rabin made a point of stating. But please, tel me more about how that makes it OK to deny them basic rights

[@modarnwarfare2rull]

Of couse they wouldn't get a state, they decided to not agree with the partition plan back in 47, started a war, lost and are somehow still expecting a state, when you lose a genocidal war you started you really don't get to have an army@@Antonio-yg7io

[@user-gq9fd8ok6x]

When given a choice between two "evil" societie, don't pick the lesser evil of the two. Pick the one that through time has been evolving or at least trying to be not just the least evil but actually not evil, the one that's becoming good, better and ultimately the best.

[@helenromanelli2544]

So which civilization would YOU pick? Amongst the current crop?

[@user-gq9fd8ok6x]

@@helenromanelli2544 The simple answer to your question would be: Western civilization. Although, I must confess there's more nuance to my answer, still that would be my choice.

[@MrOcto13]

Bill had me ballin' at Boca Raton. 😂😂😂

[@davidgoosen1633]

Easily amused

[@ladistar]

@@davidgoosen1633oh c’mon that was a funny ass joke

[@CenterThePendulum]

You played basketball at that remark?

[@thedogpound8813]

He speaks in a way that offends the right and the left at the same time.

[@jackiehedges320]

the right loves this shit...this is right

[@Zachary_Setzer]

​@jackiehedges320 Only to radical leftists who think liberals are right-wing. Pinker refers to it as the "Left Pole" -- the point from which every direction is rightward.

[@luniz4209]

The so called left that is offended to this is permanently offended all the time anyway.

[@joeberg3317]

@@jackiehedges320 nah I think normie libs are starting to push back on woke bullshit

[@michaelbaker8633]

​@joeberg3317 You say that like there is any separating those two things. Libs will never vote against a Democrat, and the Democrats have tied themselves to the woke mob. Good luck surviving that fracture should it happen. Which brings me to this point....."classic" libs may not agree with the woke BS, but they will continue to vote for and empower those who do. So what is any push back actually accomplishing?

[@jamesgiguere6620]

Probably the best Maher! This I can say from 40 years in academia.

[@blueskull1119]

Hot take . Endorsing occupation and apartheid system is not Liberal

[@ang0051]

everyone occupied, you're mad with pale faces. cause you're brainwashed

[@daniandmany]

The War on the West - title of a brilliant New Rule by Bill Maher, and fantastic book by Douglas Murray. So great to see two of my favourite commentators from different ends of the spectrum converge on this point. Gives me hope!🤞

[@matityaloran9157]

Agreed

[@johndicks3064]

Yup.

[@justinshabtai]

100%

[@dakhan]

Lol Douglas Murray the cuck who doesnt debate anyone above the age of 18 😂

[@Contrarymary853]

Yes, before this aired, I added Murray’s book to my “to be read” list.

[@dyloniusofsparta]

John Locke, is a crucial person to learn, you don't even know what your rights and responsibilities are without him.

[@stuarthenry3157]

Yes. Locke, Augustine, Aurelius, Aquinas, Paine, and Murray Rothbard. Rights are inherent to our humanity, not privileges granted by the state.

[@dyloniusofsparta]

@@stuarthenry3157 yes, Marcus Aurelius is a fascinating subject too. I don't think the Professors today even know what the social contract is.

[@dariusdaguerre3535]

Without _him._

[@anshlxter]

Not necessarily you don't your right without them. There have been endless philosophers be they from Asian or African societies coming up with similar stuff , even Greeks too before western civilisation ever came to these conclusions. It's good to be proud of what western civilisation has achieved but it's arrogant to assume it was only cause of west that we as a humanity achieved it.

[@dyloniusofsparta]

@@anshlxter I also think Sun Tzu is a crucial read, but many of the more hippy, dippy pacifist parents don't like the idea of their teenager reading The Art of War.

[@muamerblazevic]

"If you ignore all the horrible things that Americans and Europeans did and only focus on the good stuff that we use as a cover for the expansion of our empire that are actually concepts we stole from other cultures then we aren't that bad"

[@ph8077]

One of us...one of us...

[@Quaerite.Intellectum]

"If you ignore all the wonderful things that Americans and Europeans did and only focus on the bad stuff that is used to justify the vilification of our civilization that are actually concepts that were taken from previous civilizations and then expanded upon in an effort to improve those concepts and thus improve life for all human beings then we aren't that good." But also, no group of humans anywhere, ever is a monolith. We used ideas from other cultures and civilizations because no one owns ideas (a culture is simply all of the ideas of a particular group of people) and because they are good ideas that can be used to improve life for all human beings. You know, because we're ALL human beings. Sharing our cultures is a good thing. Conquering, killing, cheating, lying to and enslaving each other are obviously not good things. If your comment was meant to be sarcastic, then forgive me for an inappropriate reaction. Sarcasm is sometimes challenging to see in text.

[@evaburnz]

@@Quaerite.Intellectum simply put, considering the human condition, there is no civilisation that will ever be innocent of wrongdoings of all kinds. Having said that, the West is by far the most humane sphere of influence when it comes to human rights and values as a fundamental framework.

[@Quaerite.Intellectum]

@@evaburnz Agreed!

[@patrickmiano7901]

They stole from each other and us too. Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Tojo, Tamburlane, and Pol Pot were not saints.

[@thegoatley1]

OMG "they don't teach this at drag queen story hour" mic drop.

[@raya1849]

"America only ever overcorrects" - 1000 recs, Bill! Gone are the moderates.

[@sangredelic]

Like Drag Queen Story Hour. Nobody cares if a drag queen reads to kids, it's when you turn it into a weird virtue signaling spectacle.

[@GB-TX]

Frankly I spent at least 2 semesters in college reading Locke, Hobbes, Keynes, Thoreau, etc. And studying exactly how democracy and rights came about - and then the next half of the course was a comparative start to finish of the Middle East, of Asia, etc. And how their economies and types of government came about based on religion and scholars and history etc..... up till modern times. this professor highlighted the key points of all societies, but the main focus was on exactly what you just ranted about! It taught me the most well rounded perspective of why western democratic ideals are a gift and should be respected - and protected!! Which makes me even more angry when crazy liberals AND crazy conservatives are both tearing it apart in equal measure.... when really we should be striving to set the best example for the world.... by leading with proper action! Whatever happened to honor, decency, respect, intellect, common sense, etc. 🙄

[@Myinmi]

It's the political horseshoe of extreme left and right agreeing, but for different reasons. Thank you for your thoughts!

[@Bat_Boy]

We are a “flawed democracy” on the Democracy Index because of 1) the electoral college 2) plurality voting 3) the Senate 4) gerrymandering (to the House) 5) money in politics (aka, legalized corruption, ie, lobbyist, Citizens United, etc) Solutions: 1) remove the electoral college, 2) replace with rank choice or approval voting 3) only 1 Senator per state, with the vote power of their states % to the national GDP 4) require an independent commission to draw district lines for ALL states 5) remove Citizens United (etc) So simple, yet will not be done. American-style democracy is a snake eating its own tail. Good luck USA

[@Bat_Boy]

If the Age of Enlightenment happened today, it would be smeared by Republicans as the “Age of Woke”.

[@heartfeltteaching]

Do you think that moral duties are objectively binding?

[@21972012145525]

So confused on why anyone, let alone a professor, deems it necessary to pick one over the other?! Isn’t it obvious each society/civilizations have their own positive and negatives and we use those bearings as we move forward?

[@retbeart]

Bill somehow manages to sound smugly superior despite being at least 6 years behind all this shit. Every damn time.

[@andrewnickell5516]

Love this

[@devinsmith4684]

I love these segments but you are correct 😄

[@Signal_in_the_noise]

So true….still needs to be said. Even George Carlin was 20 years ahead of Bill

[@kevinfox787]

He is partly responsible for what we have been seeing and experiencing in our culture. He has been mocking the foundational elements of western civilization for years!

[@michaelhenry7638]

He is right you are a white toast liberal. Shhhhh

[@rebeccalankford9810]

I'm glad to see someone speak up for the West and call out craziness.

[@pippilongstocking5000]

The example of MLK invoking Thoreau's ideas is a little strange since the civil rights movement wouldn't have ever needed to exist if Europeans hadn't enslaved Africans in the first place.

[@ali_nurudeen]

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[@ali_nurudeen]

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[@dannyarcher6370]

Who are the philosophers of other races who inspired those their race enslaved? Oh, wait...

[@ZeroResurrected]

Europeans wouldn’t have enslaved Africans if Africans didn’t sell each other off to them in the first place

[@coryhoggatt7691]

Europeans didn’t enslave Africans. Africans enslaved Africans. Europeans participated in the slave trade, which itself is reprehensible but who put a stop to it? Europeans themselves. It’s a common myth that Native Americans were a peaceful, kind people but they owned slaves when Europeans got to the Americas and the 13th amendment doesn’t apply to them. The last slaves in the US weren’t released by their Native American owners until a decade after slavery was banned in the US.

[@bauhnguefyische667]

He just puts it on a knives edge and cuts it with sarcasm. Kudos.

[@geovannil1195]

Thank you Bill. I've been watching your performances for many years. Well done! This hypocracy is out of control.

[@popeyeandthejeep7459]

Bills clapping seals. Give them a hand everyone!

[@barrypeterson6725]

Bill, I’m amazed that you have such clarity and balls to tell it like it is to the left! Thank God!!

[@robertwagner2079]

Don't thank God, he wouldn't know Bill's name. Hehehe I had to.

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

I'm pretty leftist and I fully support Israel and so do all the Democrats and leftists I know. This is just some shot at the fringe and an excuse for Maher to whine about the woke for the thousandth time.

[@davidgoosen1633]

Yeah this is an opinion piece it's not necessarily truth

[@Lisa-pl6gv]

Bill is the left. Dummy. 😀

[@arminxvs3372]

And for some reason they cannot cancel him. Great that he can spit facts!

[@kenthart7519]

I love the call back to the phrase"back then people were generally atrocious"

[@ali_nurudeen]

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[@brucemoose926]

I think that all the colonized peoples of the world would have done the colonizing themselves had the power to do so.

[@evgeniybeschastnov4627]

which is false, because Jews and Arabs lived pretty OK together in Palestine until the moment Jews pushed through their own state

[@Chaimmankoff]

​@@evgeniybeschastnov4627That's just not true though.

[@hamudidoodi]

Jews came after the Spanish Inquisition and settled in the entire North African and Middle Eastern region. They were a small minority everywhere (except perhaps in Morrocco). But this is not Jewish vs Arab. It’s Western Colonialist culture (Zionism) vs indigenous peoples of Palestine. Jews settling in the region lived in peace. Definitely lived better than their counterparts in Europe!

[@gypsy2545]

Human rights come before anything but you can only know that if you consider the non-West as humans...

[@enisten]

PS. I added John Locke to my reading list 👍 Good to hear such peopel and ideals are still appreciated by some people!

[@engyn0]

Fascinating how a guy who made the movie Religulous thinks a state defined by the rule of a single religion is all good and chill.

[@21972012145525]

That’s Zionism for ya

[@skim1983]

If Israel is defined by the rule of a single religion, how are they Muslims and Christians in Parliament and their Supreme Court?

[@davidt3956]

Bill mentions the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. What's also important to know about it is that the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, officially representing all fifty-seven Muslim nations, rejected the UDHR. In its place they put forward the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam, which makes clear, in its last two articles, that only those rights Muslims decide to grant via Sharia exist.

[@sideshowbob]

i find that the Millennials I know who are so fiercely opposed to Israel, with shockingly deep seated anti semitic views worse than my own Greatest Gen parents, whose anti Semitism exceeded Kanye, Mel Gibson, Cartman from South Park, & Hitler combined, are Shockingly ignorant of the tenents of Islam, & the history of the rise & spread of Islam. OK sure, I know the vast majority of Muslims probably are moderate & reasonable, & the Zealots are a minority, just as in Christianity & Judaism & any other world religion, but to be completely unaware of what Sharia law is, what the Taliban, ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah really stand for? What the penalties for "Homosexuality" or "Atheism" are in most Muslim majority countries? Boggles my mind . . .

[@marciaperone1468]

And that's scary. Especially to the LGBT + community. Or it should be.

[@petercollingwood522]

@@marciaperone1468 They're too stupid to care.

[@Spartacus33BC]

At least there is a right to property.All you folks can do is steal land of others.

[@davidt3956]

@@Spartacus33BCDo tell, what land? You mean the land the Muslim holy book says is the land of the Jews? One of the many Muslims where Muslims documented their own invasion? The one about which Yusuf Diya al-Khalidi, Mayor of Jerusalem, said in1899: "Who can challenge the rights of the Jews to Palestine? Good Lord, historically, it is really your country." That one?

[@MrRrrr698]

1:03 what he said is true, I belong to a marginalized caste in india amd due to the western values spread to india by the British Raj I andy kin have better rights and life due to the constitution

[@MeleanDialogue]

It's about how WE behave, don't waste time criticizing others when we urgently need to reflect on our own behavior if we want to continue or rather recover any " leading light" status

[@TomSuntotheMax]

That was one of the BEST speeches I have heard lately about what is wrong with modern education today. I hope people hear it who can effect a return to sanity in colleges. Congrats, Bill Maher - that was stunning!

[@Mottleydude1]

That’s an unfair statement. Yes, the liberal arts departments have an outsized voice. I’m at a point in my career where I do a lot of training and mentoring of young college graduates. I work in a stem field and most of these kids who are coming in have STEM degrees and are nothing like the snowflakes from prestigious private schools with art history degrees who overpopulate middle management. Yet when adversity occurs or business declines the woke snowflakes are the first ones to be let go and for the obvious reasons. They lack the hard skills to be productive and solve hard problems. Now that’s not to say soft skills are not important. They are, but some folks want to make a false dichotomy that people with hard skills can’t learn soft skills. In the long run the hard skills always win out because the folks with hard skills only have to stop working and business comes to a screeching halt. Most of these kids coming out of college already know this. It’s really just a load minority who believe in this “woke” nonsense.

[@robertbeste]

Everything Mahar talked about IS taught in colleges. Remember Bill is also an entertainer and exaggerates to make a point. The insanity you hear isn't from the curriculum. It's a VERY small part of the left that gets media attention because of how insane it is.

[@ChuckDickens24]

Freaking hilarious and spot-on

[@longgrayline8055]

Bill Maher, you’re coming around. Balance is the key. Liberal at some things, conservative at others.

[@user-oi9qo2xm8y]

Thank you for your reasonable deduction on the issues of today. God bless you always. I know he will.

[@robertwilkins3167]

"What have the Romans ever done for us?"

[@Groundx1]

I use this one too!

[@livinginvancouverbc2247]

😄

[@darthjekyll3648]

They showed them during the zealot rebellion

[@spinlok3943]

The aqueducts!

[@jurassicthunder]

"or herself"

[@DroZzhat]

You start thinking Bill is just turning into an ornery old man, but then he comes out with one of these gems. Damn. Still got it.

[@frankb821]

"Colonizer of va....", you're killing me, Bill! Fantastic stuff, and important! When schools don't teach it, at least your comedy bits are still filling in the gaps

[@Waverlyduli]

Beautifully reasoned and articulated, Bill. (But we need to start at the other end by redoing the education systems).

[@Malepresentingtimelord]

The thought of colleges removing western civ as an option is concerning. There is so much wisdom from the enlightenment thinkers. Plus, learning about how European empires rose and fell is pretty damn interesting. It’s a lot like Game of Thrones; on one hand it’s horrifying and on the other it’s absolutely enthralling.

[@GM-cq6ez]

Maher's ideas are becoming more unstable.

[@TWDay-sy6nq]

"Western civilization" is an oxymoron, if you know anything about those "contributions."

[@brucemoose926]

Totally agreed. I took courses on the Greeks, Romans and the ancient Chinese to fulfill my humanities requirements. I should have taken ancient Egyptians studies as well to cover all great classical civilizations (which are not limited to just the West). Kids are better off not going to college unless they study the hard sciences, engineering or math. Well, then again, I hear math is racist. So what to do?

[@djschwartz1380]

@@TWDay-sy6nq what are you talking about

[@tutu3909]

Uh oh master race class that's Eurocentric..... Interesting.