In Defense of Israel | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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[@taylorcolonna457]

This video is 2 years old. This leads me to believe Nothing changes when nothing changes.

[@lisbethgiverhaug9513]

The arabs in Gaza have the right to vote. So they elected Hamas in 2006,- with the charter; kill jews and vipe out Israel. The arabs on the Westbank have the right to vote: so they elected Abbas who denied Holocaust and has the same charter as Hamas. Why do some people still go on claiming that these arabs do not have the right to vote??? Lisbeth

[@pranafoods1]

Bill makes a good argument for the Native Americans to take back their country.

[@mrrolight]

Exactly. I wonder how Bill would react if a native American said give me half your mansion or I'll take all of it. Would he go for the better deal and give half up? Or would he say "fuck you"? - Absolute double standards and he is flat wrong on this.

[@mrrolight]

Exactly. I wonder how Bill would react if a native American said give me half your mansion or I'll take all of it. Would he go for the better deal and give half up? Or would he say "fuck you"? - Absolute double standards and he is flat wrong on this.

[@austinsmith3011]

Indeed, the Jews in Israel did by what right the Native Americans should do in America. If the world was a fair place the Native Americans would be able to take back America, or rather if the world was really a fair place both the Jews and the Native Americans would not have lost their ancestral land to conquers in the first place.

[@jektonoporkins5025]

@@mrrolight Well a Native American could show up to my doorstep and stake a claim to my property because it used to Native American land, the problem for him though is that it's USA land now because we won a bunch of wars and took it from the natives. Israel was created in the post-WWII environment with the blessing of the UN, then they promptly got attacked and they won all the wars, so they get the land. Losing wars has consequences.

[@21972012145525]

Yet he’s against monetary reparations for African Americans. 🙄🙄🙄 can’t make this shit up. He’s also not ok with free health insurance, college (or even the covid $), but is fine when Israel provides this FOR FREE to their citizens. While we, the American taxpayers , pay for israel’s defense. $3 billion a year. This man can’t stand people that have a different paradigm than him or way of life. The rest of us have accepted it, moved past “American exceptionalism” and try to make ends meet.

[@reuelmelville5232]

A defense ministry is an office building, not a rocket launch pad.

[@ozricaurora6943]

Brilliant point

[@Aereaux]

I have been inside the defense ministry buildings in Tel Aviv many timeis and don't remember seeing one rocket. Did see a lot of very nice looking young Israelies.

[@billmurphy9921]

All very good points, Mr Maher. Thanks for presenting an intelligent argument on the subject.

[@Navy35]

Not really. He said that America stole the land from the Mexican government. Try telling that to the Navaho, Comanches and Apaches who were living there before Mexico stole it .

[@knowendsports84]

Zionist bs and propaganda

[@jimdavidson1865]

Don't let native Americans hear this

[@Blackstaralpha]

I assume that neanderthals have the rights to lands in europe as well. Welp so long. I am going back to Africa the birthplace of humanity - I will just have to find a two state solution with the ethiopians. Can I get some support for this?

[@zapkvr]

@DaKermitFrog you're right. You don't think

[@Bellatrux13]

Hehe, so fucking true

[@Guy1515]

Jews are the natives dummy.

[@Blackstaralpha]

@@Guy1515 Judaism is "only" 3000 years old and there have been people living there before that. At what point does being native "start" exactly?

[@chips45630]

I hate how little Britian's role in all of this is mentioned, they played an important part in creating this mess and yet everyone seems to forget that.

[@djzrobzombie2813]

Yes they gave the land to the Jews after ww2

[@goblue193]

Yep both Britain and France promised the Arabs their own state after WWI and that didn’t happen

[@JPCox123]

The English also gave all their leftover weapons to the arabs, when they left.

[@zsmith4853]

FACTS.

[@rumple269]

@@goblue193 It would have happened, if the Arabs didn't start 5 wars with the Jewish state (and lose all of them). Military incompetence and genocidal intentions lead to badly proportioned states of affairs

[@TBoy1247]

Intelligent discussion by informed, passionate advocates.

[@MyOpinyin]

"you cant learn history from Instagram", just like you can't learn it from corporate talking heads.

[@snehashispanda4808]

I think u are learning from terrorist. Popularly know as religion of peace.

[@MyOpinyin]

@@snehashispanda4808 no, I'm learning from people that arent controlled by the mainstream media, which you're clearly not doing. My comment wasn't about defending or supporting "the religion of peace".

[@krishm16]

God if the audience can just stop clapping at every sound bite...

[@Dedbeatz.]

I agree with you. It drives me nuts!

[@chrisfent414]

I feel this way every video. It's cringy.

[@Instealer21]

Billy gets mad when they don't clap.

[@chrisfent414]

@@Instealer21 Every time! He pretends they don't get it then proceeds to forget how to set up the delivery. I like him but damn is he frustrating.

[@Peatnik9]

It’s made the show unwatchable really. And Bill with his purposeful pauses to draw it out in maddening.

[@ep6507]

I wish the audience would stop clapping every second…they should hold off the claps till the end.

[@inveele]

I think most of them are high

[@nwagner643]

They’re simps for 💩

[@LauryDepp]

Agree

[@MV-xz7so]

Yeh, they should hold off the claps until after the end of the show, when they go all the way back home, turn on their televisions and watch something that’s actually intuitive.

[@ProjectFlashlight612]

They must clap to keep Maher's ego afloat

[@Steelers-rk3ig]

The uncomfortable clapping is the best part! must be woke folks looking around wondering WTF?

[@rse1113]

Stealing #wokefolks

[@TheHurley108]

Thank you, Bill, for once again being the rare voice of logic and intelligence among the contemporary Liberals.

[@JimBob-jr5up]

Yah, what a great voice of logic. I love how he belittles "kids" for their position and his idea that Instagram is how they learn history. Well, im not a kid and im far.... FAR more educated on this topic than Bill is. There is nothing intelligent, logical or historically accurate with Bill and this topic. Its been a month since this video, how right is Bill? By Israels own, very questionable statistics, theyre at a 68% civilian casualty rate. More honest and probably more accurate organizations have it at nearly 90%. 13,000 children dead. Israel cut power, food and water to civilians. Theyre using white phosphorus against Palestinians. Not a day goes by where theyre not creaking 4 to 8 war crimes as defined by the Geneva conventions. Israel, multiple times, has called for and claimed goal is, genocide and ethnic cleansing. And this POS joke of a human wants to say "kids" are out of line? People like Bill cant claim its a war AND these are terrorists. It does not work like that. Its one or the other. And his BS history.... omg... yah Bill, the Jewish people were a part of that land... B.C. ... then the Christians controlled it for around 400 years, then pre-Muslims for another 200 to 300 years, then a couple Muslim empires like Ottoman, until like 1920. 😂 Hes so full of crap. How far back are we going to say is acceptable for reclaiming and, is everyone ready to apply that across the board?

[@LEONARDO_DAVINCI_2.0]

Ikr 👏

[@georgeholloway3981]

The title refers to Bill's position, not the interviewee.

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

Bill is spitting facts you dont like... Hamas negotiating position.. 'you all die' 🤣

[@joshuapalmer69]

​@@PoldarkGodzilla Bill wasn't letting anyone else complete a sentence. That's not a debate. When Bill gets confronted with "Well, why don't the people in palestine get a vote?" -Bill changes the subject. When Bill is asked, "Well, maybe there would be a chance of peace if you didn't take people's homes, land, and water." -Bill dismisses as "yeah, whatever." Bill just dismisses and talks over facts he doesn't like.

[@bobster0]

@@joshuapalmer69 ell.. the media-and *especially* the NYT-routinely writes stuff about Israel they absolutely know is false, out of context, or distorted... and no one's getting any rebuttal; they put it out there, and the damage is done. Organizations like HonestReporting, CAMERA, etc. are constantly exposing their insane, shameless, unprofessional bias… and they just. don't. care. On the few occasions when they're forced to retract or correct something, does that really erase the false impression they gave their hordes of zombie-like readers? Of course not-and they knew that when they published it. So if on one occasion, Krisztoff or whoever didn't get to spew quite as much one-sided, reflexively anti-Israel nonsense as he would've liked to… boo-frickin'-hoo.

[@rorygilmoreNZ]

@@PoldarkGodzilla your point is often stated, but it’s irrelevant. Many states and organisations have taken a similar approach. It neither qualifies nor precludes ones right to self determination or statehood. Just because someone wants you to die is not a good enough reason to get your kin to migrate to someone else’s country. The fact that the name “Palestine” wasn’t used historically is neither here nor there. Zimbabwe wasn’t used by locals in that country prior to colonisation, much of that country was part of the kingdom of Monomatapa, but that didn’t dilute the local tribes peoples claim to create a new state called Zimbabwe. The same can be said of the United Kingdom. Italy and Germany were not states until relatively recently either.

[@0ntimetaiment921]

I think the interviewee (if you can call him that as he barely got a word in) also is defending Israel. He just acknowledges that the conflic is not as black and white as Maher wants to believe.

[@isfahanismail10]

"You can't learn history from instagram" - Bill Maher 2021

[@faisalt9447]

translation: people on Instagram are calling out zionazis for their BS and I do not like that.

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

@@faisalt9447 ig teens have the most surface level understanding of geopolitics

[@prajwas2004]

Heard his historical understanding(without Instagram). It wasn't any better!

[@shachar9111]

@@faisalt9447 "calling out zionazis"? for what? living in their own country?

[@isfahanismail10]

@@user-pd9ju5dk5s Yeah we hear and see history in IG but those who are really curious would continue to look up the details.

[@snehashispanda4808]

WITHOUT LIES ISLAM DIES ✌️

[@Beatit19]

Bill gets it. Everything else is based on emotions, not facts and common sense

[@flextoadflex]

If you call someone even-handed and brilliant, it might be advisable not to interrupt him every two sentences when he tries to make a point, and then spend more time talking yourself.

[@grayman7208]

except he needed to shut down the clown from talking idiotic gibberish.

[@interstellar10]

@@grayman7208 Oh, I see, your reply is an example of "idiotic gibberish". Well done!

[@jbutreallyjaie]

In so happy reading comments like these. I used to love Bill but he is using a hammas talking point when Abbi Martin has a doc out right now Gaza fighting for freedom and anyone who watches that, could NEVER defend Israel 100% unless theres been some blackmail or an arrangement.

[@grayman7208]

@@jbutreallyjaie bull. maher is 100% correct.

[@AceMcSch00ly]

@@jbutreallyjaie Garza is trash, Israel all day.

[@maliksamarijones9304]

"you can't learn history through Instagram." Almost a perfect statement... just substitute the word "history" with the word "anything."

[@blankstatement1]

Golden comment

[@joel-yd1rv]

Learn history and the more you learn how screwed over the Palestinians have been

[@MV-xz7so]

“You can’t learn history through watching episodes of Bill Maher.” There, I fixed it.

[@maoama]

Okay. I am horrified. For those fellow graduates/masters/phds. This is diguesting.

[@daryno9073]

Except the more you learn about history the more you learn how the Israel been screwing over Palestine. Israel been stealing their land for decades and been engaging with ethnics cleansing of Gaza. Bill had always had a bias against Muslims though so I’m not surprised that he’s siding with Israel here

[@alementary4065]

One of the best arguments I've heard so far. 'Palestine' is like Colin Kaepernick....They tear up their standing contract, complain they got fired when they didn't, turn it into an issue that has nothing to do with anything, and make martyrs of themselves.

[@SimonDelgado68]

It's really great to see someone saying what they really think and don't care about it

[@HoussamNekkaa]

wrong and loud ...amazing

[@B055H0GG707]

65 IQ says what?

[@bruhdamartinasty3636]

Just like Trump, huh? LMAO

[@jonfee5081]

@@HoussamNekkaa you mean right

[@irumproteek4841]

Why bring in experts when you won't even let them speak 2 complete sentences, Bill?

[@Kim-lc3fv]

Exactly.

[@cubsfanbigmike31]

Bill dumps a hot steamy take on the table & wants the guest to wipe for him.

[@frederf3227]

Maher wants to opine and needs set dressing to legitimize the soapboxing.

[@ericisnthereorthereeither562]

He's giving context to the situation so that viewers can understand what they are talking about. Or are u assuming that every person watching this is already familiar with the history of the Middle East in great detail? Also after he is done "lecturing," he then asks his guests, both individually, for their opinion on the issue while keeping up a civil conversation. If u want to complain about a host "lecturing," you should go complain in the Daily Show's or Last Week Tonight's comment section. Also if he didn't "lecture" this conversation would have just been 5 mins shorter, with roughly the same answers from the guests.

[@dalnim4294]

I'm sure you'd have no problem with it if he shared your opinions. You just don't like that he disagrees with you.

[@robertocolon6723]

Ask a question and then talk over the person you don't agree with . . .good job Bill!!!

[@munchingsquirrel5067]

Agreed. He wasn't really interested in the answer.

[@Clinically-Insane648]

@Elliot Mason You ask a question when you hear an answer to a prior question not just blabber things over what he has to say.

[@ryanmacdonnell8987]

@Elliot Mason wtf were u watching he constantly interrupted his guests

[@dalidirani2740]

@Elliot Mason what exactly is the question that he couldn't answer

[@dalidirani2740]

@Elliot Mason He did answer, you attack enemy bases(hamas bases) not kill civilians deliberately. And just for the record, everybody I know that supports the freedom of Palestine is disgusted by the acts of terror that are caused by Hamas. Hamas are a terrorist group, by definition, and they are not to be defended. They have messed up virtues and don’t represent the Palestinians. Unfortunately, Israel has stripped Palestine of so much they have nothing to fall back on except for this terror group.

[@prakashyadav9422]

7 countries fought against Israel and lost. If occupancy is a criteria then all of Pakistan, half of China and Turkey is occupied land.

[@moeezawan2329]

Settlements are illegal by UN Laws Israel still makes them and uses their military to kick people out of their homes does that sound fair to you

[@Ss-jn6mm]

Yeah slavery is something you gain from ur ancestor who let Britain take everything from ur country and make u poor and toilet less ... as far my knowledge pakistan was part of india before 1947 so u want to say indian occupy indians land !!!

[@dark_winter8238]

@prakash yadav that same war they started and intentionally sunk a US military ship to try to blame on others to get us to join the war.

[@calundoconteal6851]

Exactly, why target Israel and not the entire planet? By the logic of anti-Israel proponents, they should criticize nearly every country for the same thing.

[@moeezawan2329]

@@calundoconteal6851 Israeli settlements are the problem they are illegal and straight up war crime

[@drewmurray6545]

Fantastic segment from someone who’s read more of history than the last 15 mins of cnn

[@jazzman1904]

Just to answer this fellows claim that Isreal doesn't allow voting. In the West Bank it is the current leader that doesn't allow an election there because they are afraid that Hamas would win. Also after Isreal left Gaza in 2005 their population elected Hamas.

[@andrewdobson813]

and evicently forgotten everything he read

[@VHale-yz7hc]

Or Fox News which is also just clips for dumb people

[@mirba6933]

@@VHale-yz7hc FOX NEWS. You are not worthy to see anything from FOX. Are you American?

[@R_K_A_]

Did you know, dear, that the Jews throughout Islamic history have respect for them, and there were no massacres on a religious basis, and that all the Jewish massacres were in Aruba, and when the Jews were killed in Spain, they were embraced by Muslims and they protected them for five hundred years

[@mostresticator3000]

"It wasnt a war...you see, a war is when TWO armies are fighting" - Bill Hicks

[@blaisemacpherson7637]

Exactly. This is domestic terrorism. Where some bad actors within a state are causing violence and the state irresponsibly bombs entire areas of their own state. Meanwhile the states commitment to a national ethnic identity antagonizes those same bad actors.... Understandably so.

[@hadenough114]

Israel needs to send Don, BiBi and SiSi to do a SWORD dance with MBS. That will scare IRAN.

[@freespeechchampsusanwojcic2528]

Hail Zion

[@mewing9619]

@@freespeechchampsusanwojcic2528 you spelled hitler wrong

[@mikek128]

Bill hicks doesn’t understand modern war and I guess neither do you, one side shoots rockets and one side carries out targeted strikes what about that is not war?

[@hero_time]

I really wanted to hear the rest of James Carville's point...

[@BillieSharkTooth]

Yeah, but Bill did not. Cause Bill is a Zionist and Islamophobic... so... yeah

[@blackout07blue]

Carville is not that bright of a guy. He’s only relevant in anyone’s mind, because Ross Perot ran as a right-wing 3rd Party independent candidate in 1992 which took votes from George HW Bush and allowed Bill Clinton to win.

[@jweb9265]

@@BillieSharkTooth Really? That's the first time i've ever heard him called a zionist. I've heard him described as anti-semitic and anti israel before.

[@MountainLWolf]

Bill is too busy listening to himself talk

[@grantsuplus7799]

@@jweb9265 That’s clearly not true. His entire career is based off being Islamaphobic and pro israel. Did he even sound the slightest anti israel in this video? Contain your lies. Little bill is a shill. We all know who lines his pockets to say this propaganda.

[@alexnava4957]

Hey I got a question for the people who are pro-hamas . What would do Hamas with the fire power of israel and israel defending with the power of hamas ??

[@796andy2]

I've been saying for years "stop f'ng with isreal" I think they've shown amazing restraint ...

[@lylamatting830]

who tf is "pro-hamas"? opposing the needless slaughter of dozens of children make you "pro-hamas"? what kind of retarded analysis is that? israel apologists can't even recognize their idiocy. strawman after strawman, deflection and deflection

[@almostafa4725]

Hamas was initially funded by Israel in 1987 and is a byproduct of 60 years of Zionist aggression and terrorism.

[@sapirgang]

Thank you Bill, your words mean everything now more than ever. 🙏🙏

[@rogerfurlong1535]

Carville looks like he's wearing that future Earth uniform hahaha

[@Kaisersozze]

He always wears something suitable only for a teen in elementary school.

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

So people can come back 3000 yes later with a claim on land😂😂😂 The american indians are rubbing their hands together

[@jmichaelewan8455]

😂😂

[@ONTHEPASSWITHMAX]

Space force uniform lol

[@yogione]

I liked him in the opening of the Tomb Raider program. He's a dragon slayer.

[@marcdenton2996]

You are correct Bill. Instagram, Facebook & other lesser known social media outlets are not the appropriate place to receive a ‘quality’, ‘insightful’ well-rounded education.

[@izansarip2399]

Yes..you should learn from bill maher...mr know it all..

[@bananamilkshake5135]

@ThxGod It'sOver and THE SO CALLED PALESTINIANS TODAY ARE NOT ALL RELATED TO THE NATIVE PEOPLE (LEFT OVER JEWS AFTER EXILE AND NOMADIC PEOPLE) THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LIVING IN THAT LAND! MANY OF THEM CAN TRACE THEIR RECENT (AT MOST 3 GENERATIONS) ANCESTRY TO EGYPT, SYRIA, JORDAN ETC... BECAUSE THAT LAND WAS LEFT SO EMPTY FOR SO LONG, UNTIL THE OTTOMAN CAME AND BROUGHT ARABS THERE TO CULTIVATE THOSE EMPTY LAND. THEN JEWS SUFFERING IN THE DIASPORA SAW THE OPPORTUNITIES TOO AND ALSO IMMIGRATED. YASSER ARAT FOR ONE EXAMPLE, HAD THREE GRANDPARENTS FROM EGYPT. YET MANY PALESTINIANS LIKE HIM TODAY SOMEHOW CLAIM THEY OWN THAT ENTIRE BRITISH-DRAWN LAND FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH, FROM RIVER TO THE SEA.

[@snehashispanda4808]

The Jewish exodus from Arab countries, was the departure, flight, expulsion, evacuation of 850,000 Jews from Arab Muslim world, mainly from 1948. The reasons for the exoduses are manifold such as persecution, antisemitism, political instability and poverty. Islamism have been criticized for: repression of free expression and individual rights, rigidity, hypocrisy, antisemitism,notwithstanding proclaimed opposition to any such innovation by others.

[@zeeshawn15]

Neither this show nor any news outlet. Wait 50 years from today and than pick up the history books

[@dragosapina5692]

What quality source do you think Bill got his information on this issue? He attacked criticism of Israel. What is the source that led him to conclude that Israelis were in Israel before Arabs existed, for instance? Why does it matter how old Islam is. Is he saying Arabs didnt exist before Israelis and Islam is a younger religion, therefore Israel is under siege from invaders whose established homes they are justified in taking. Instagram may not be a good source of historical education, but how about current affairs?

[@adamwey2673]

Break the layers of lies down! Love it!

[@katherinereynolds3659]

You broke it down very well! It’s good to hear someone saying this and in such a simple and honest way!

[@jonayersmalcmhcaap5748]

That discomfort that you may be feeling could be “nuanced, respectful debate” and it’s what may save civilization.

[@alwaysovercomingbear4809]

It's refreshing to see it take place on mainstream TV!

[@mikyleezra7841]

One of the dumbest comments on KZbin…and that’s saying something!

[@Buttlather]

@Ansverarto 17 which civilization is being bled out? Holy fuck that was an ignorant comment. You are exactly who bill is talking about.

[@keggluneq]

You mean Bill Maher spewing one-sided Netanyahu propaganda and dumb shit like "they were there first 3,000 years ago" and platitudes like "losing wars has consequences" while Palestinians (which he believes don't exist as a people even though they totally look like they do) are herded into the world's largest ghetto is now considered nuanced? Or the "nuanced" map that shows Palestinian Bantustans he uses to prove Israel isn't an appartheid state. Uh, yeah Bill. That's exactly what an appartheid state looks like. Then there's the whataboutism in finger pointing to neighboring countries. Or Bill pointing out that Israel created Hamas by funelling money to fringe Islamist groups to oppose the secularist Fatah... oh, he didn't mention that? Anyway, so much nuance. He didn't call Palestinians dogs, so there's that.

[@EAZYED420]

They shoot rockets from populated areas on purpose. Fuck em.

[@Linkacide]

He obviously wouldn’t want to debate Noam Chomsky on this or have him on his show.

[@wadewilson8924]

Honestly it wouldn’t be watchable. He can barely speak at a reasonable pace nowadays

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Noam Noam is a moron lol

[@therightone5708]

Please all chomsky has is anecdotal examples absent of any reasoning or knowledge of laws of war by us or even UN's standard.

[@ereini0n]

I would hope not! Antisemites and Capos don't get to have a free platform.

[@bahamallama9197]

@@therightone5708 so you're saying you haven't heard of Noam Chomsky? Or at the very least have never cracked a book he wrote.

[@mikemclellan854]

Thank you Mr. Maher❤️

[@xersesshadowblade1193]

Nicholas kristof, I tip my hat to him, if you notice in the interview he wasn't like yes a man agreeing with Bill maher he was actually giving a balance point of view.

[@maurbyrne]

Ask the British about Palestinian history.

[@advance512]

What will they say?

[@mslitchick]

@@advance512 Look it up. Began right before WW I. There is a Timeline documentary about it you can find on KZbin.

[@advance512]

@@mslitchick I know the history. They decided to split the land between Jews and Arabs, in 1947.

[@hdd1977m7]

The city of Jerusalem was founded by the Arab Jebusites, a Canaanite Arab tribe, in 4000 BC. It was first called Jebus after the tribe and sometimes Ur Salem after their leader. It was mentioned in ancient Hieroglyphic and Assyrian text. And Bill has the audacity to say that people of Israel were there before any Arab ever walked the Earth! Maybe he’s the one who need to go read a proper history book!

[@advance512]

@@hdd1977m7 Actually, there is no archaeological evidence to support the claim of Jebusite-Palestinian continuity. A general consensus exists among historians and archeologists that modern Palestinians are more closely related to the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan, and other countries than to the Jebusites, and that they lack any significant connection to them. Not that it matters. The Palestinians are here and they are here to stay, in the West Bank and Gaza.

[@TheShinyMetzun]

credit where credit is due. Kristof was pretty good, not strong enough with the push back, but not bad,

[@blackout07blue]

and Bill Maher was a f**cking embarrassment.

[@pepemuller3280]

@@blackout07blue as always

[@skymaster4743]

@@blackout07blue If Bill Maher were the US President, he would defend Israel to the last American soldier.

[@DavidRamseyIII]

Kristof is a very poor debater and should stick to writing only

[@low_vibration]

@@skymaster4743 when has an american solider ever fought in an israeli war?

[@terryhope4102]

This was two years ago, but it’s relevant today.

[@sircharlesnot]

Beautiful succinct reality of the facts!

[@fromchomleystreet]

If he really wanted to tackle this issue honestly he would have had at least one person on the panel to represent the position he’s complaining about.

[@williamcharles2117]

Absolutely. Instead, he knocks down his own strawmen.

[@bobster0]

Boo-hoo. The Left-I mean the Palestinians-never get their voices heard. Standard nonsense from Lefties "We never get heard! We will not be silenced! Waaaah!...... as if ANYONE could get 'em to shut the %$&# up, for just one day.

[@growler5678]

Absolute BS. It is extremely easy to get “the other side of the argument” since it’s basically promoted by most MSM. Also, you can not have a rationale debate in that context as it almost always ends up being a emotionally charged shouting match. The whole situation is a massive mess but it is wrong to assume that the Israelis are evil and entirely at fault. Love to see your reaction if you had 4000 missiles launched at your city.

[@fromchomleystreet]

@@growler5678 There’s been a recent, slight shift from the universal unquestioning support of Israel that used to be the orthodoxy across mainstream media, and for you it’s the entire MSM now saying Israel is “evil”. Complete delusion.

[@QarthCEO]

@@fromchomleystreet Come on, man, do you honestly think no one has heard the Palestinian argument?? We hear it all the time. It is the Israeli defense that is constantly censured and shamed as "hate speech". Sure, we have heard "We support Israel", but we don't get a nuanced Israeli perspective justifying their use of force in Gaza in the MSM. What Bill said here us something many on Social Media have never heard before.

[@MichaelDucharme1]

Don't learn history from instagram. Also, don't learn history from Bill Maher.

[@NG-nx8wd]

100%, for those us actually doing research and not just listening to main stream media. His take on the main stream media's coverage of the conflict blew my mind. To my knowledge not even Facebook has been pro- Palestine.

[@aflak08]

He's obviously very biased

[@justaguy2365]

Who does that? We watch for funny perspectives on current issues

[@justaguy2365]

@@aflak08 Everyone is biased about something. Everyone.. no matter how they deny it.

[@derkleinemaulwurf7640]

@@NG-nx8wd what? Everyone was siding with palestine...and everyone was suddenly an expert on the topic

[@joramaris1700]

Maher speaks the truth!

[@manarboctor]

Bill Maher should let his guest answer and be open to the idea that there are 2 sides to the issue. Palestinian people do not have a country or an army or a proper government to defend their rights. This is not an equal situation.

[@Iamrightyouarewrong]

Rules of War/War-Crime is the biggest Oxymoron ever, War IS a crime.

[@TurdFerguson43]

I’d say more “redundant”, but it is quite conceited to sit at the top of an ivory tower in an office wearing a suit making rules on war for soldiers on the ground as if it’s a “game” or something. War just sucks. There’s no “good way” to conduct war. There’s no “better” way to conduct war. It’s just war and it just sucks.

[@aflak08]

This statement is one of those things that sounds clever but is really dumb when u think about it

[@Iamrightyouarewrong]

@@aflak08 how so?

[@thereseduran7377]

I'm not quite sure bill understands the difference between Hama's and the regular Palestinian people, most of whom want nothing to do with them. I also don't think bill knows about Israel's iron dome defense system or the disparate number of causalities.

[@002951603]

I don't understand the 'disparate number of casualties' argument; when are the number of casualties equal or a measure of validity?

[@InspiredByReason]

The disparate amount of deaths of Palestinians is because Hamas literally uses women and children as human shields. They want more people to die because it's politically effective. Ie. Your argument.

[@jedimmj11]

44% of Gazans voted for Hamas in the 2006 elections, and the reason there hasn't been an election in the West Bank in a decade and a half is because they're sure Hamas will win. Don't give me this crap that most Palestinians don't want anything to do with Hamas

[@Johnnybanarna]

@@jedimmj11 there are also studies that show that around the same number of Palestinians would prefer Israeli citizenship over Palestinian

[@renzo5282]

@@jedimmj11 peace hasn’t really worked out for the palestinians as you can see.

[@tomerisraeli3521]

Let me just ask this... According to the Kristoff logic, if the US chooses to have the Pentagon in DC, does that make their decision identical to the decision of throwing 4000 rockets on another nation? Because he seemed to think that there is no difference between a country saying "I'll throw rockets from civilian populations", to a country saying "I'll put a military building in my capitol."

[@me3623]

Stop stealing their land and stop humiliating the Arabs, stop treating them as second class ppl, you won’t have problems

[@tomerisraeli3521]

@@me3623 1. Your comment has nothing to do with what I wrote 2. Walk me through your plan. Name the peaceful actions that Israel should do, and a believable praceful response that Israel will receive in return. Not in fantasyland, but in a beliavable scenario on this planet, in this century. Walk me through it. What should be done next. Exact steps.

[@me3623]

@@tomerisraeli3521 first stop humiliating them, treat them like human beings a million check points all over their own land, stop stealing their land left and right, most of the times in the name of archeological “site” excuse, stop giving their land to illegal settlers in the middle of Arab neighborhoods surrounded and protected by IDF with guns, you and your courts have zero rights to give someone else’s land. Stop being racist supremacists thinking you are the only people the whole world revolves around. At one point in history the children of Israel Jacob were the chosen ppl but sorry you guys lost that gig when u killed the prophets and messengers sent to you, and you spread corruption on earth, at the end you wanted to kill Jesus and Muhammad but he didn’t let you this time. The Muslims always treated you with respect and care while living amongst them in any qaliphate, you would run to us from the Christians but now that you have the guns and the support of tyrants you treat us and our brothers in Palestine like animals. But rem history repeats itself, Allah changes the conditions of ppl, one day we will have all the might and you will be at the mercy of the Muslims again like the past 14 centuries. Be mindful of what you do now.

[@tomerisraeli3521]

@@me3623 I will not be able to respond to everything. Ypu started with the checkpoints. Let us say they are all gone tomorrow. What will the Palestinian reaction be? Loads of peace, I would imagine.

[@me3623]

@@tomerisraeli3521 it would be a start at least but trust me man, your govt is arrogant that they feel invisible and that doesn’t produce good results for humans

[@mikemigirov2971]

I don’t always agree with Bill, but he is stands for true liberal values. Actual liberal values. Not those who call themselves “liberal” today

[@nickpumpeth]

@Michael Brown your probably antifa lol

[@SuperDecdog]

@@nickpumpeth people who are Antifa know how to use grammar correctly

[@nathansmith8312]

As much as I like Bill, practically grew up with him, .... Don't like the audience ego build it very much interrupts solid conversation

[@blackout07blue]

Bill has become progressively worse over the last 6 months. He’s nonstop strawman arguments, exaggerations about liberal democrats, and as bad as his very worst guests way too much.

[@blackout07blue]

Somehow in this episode and video he acts like “Progressives” are connected to “Hadid whoever” which is a female model with no connection to liberal democrats. Lmao

[@hdd1977m7]

The city of Jerusalem was founded by the Arab Jebusites, a Canaanite Arab tribe, in 4000 BC. It was first called Jebus after the tribe and sometimes Ur Salem after their leader. It was mentioned in ancient Hieroglyphic and Assyrian text. And Bill has the audacity to say that people of Israel were there before any Arab ever walked the Earth! Maybe he’s the one who need to go read a proper history book!

[@lordmaximus780]

He gets agitated when his seals don't clap and praise him. Hes needy.

[@carlosferrer8304]

@@hdd1977m7 Both Judaism and Islam see Ishmael, first son of Abraham, as the ancestor of the Arabs... (which tends to support Bill's claim, I would say). Weird that your point goes against both sides. Can you share with us your history book?

[@HofstraTechTalk]

2:15 I like how the comparison was the Israeli defense ministry is in a civillian location versus Hamas hiding weapons under schools or in other public locations. That is not the same thing 🙃.

[@shoegazer5451]

And of course he had to change the topic. Bill is full of shit

[@ericmuschlitz7619]

If that’s the case, or is it like the AP building that also purportedly housed hamas?

[@traiforse5777]

Hamas knows that sooner or later, Israel have to disable the weapons. And when they do, dead children is a good propaganda to be spread on Instagram and Twitter.

[@sabu001]

@@traiforse5777 i guess it is as good as a building with highlighted red color, no?

[@almostafa4725]

@@traiforse5777 So why would Israel murder those children?

[@beebeebee7000]

Increíble how this interview was 2 years ago and yet it could easily have been from today. Still stand with Israel 🇮🇱

[@sanford943]

Bill was wrong 2 years ago. No knowledge about history

[@knowendsports84]

Israel is a racist state!!!!!

[@rayjulian8044]

Each time I hear James Carville speak I want to purchase a trailer home with wheels on it.

[@woodskid4ever]

Good one! Made my morning!

[@aaronseet2738]

Nice to see the United Federation of Planets is on this matter.

[@deanhatescoffee]

Everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people.

[@rorygilmoreNZ]

@@deanhatescoffee not true Dean. Most people have no idea that they’re stupid. Look up the Dunning Kruger effect. The less people know the more they think they know. Conversely, the more people actually do know, the more they realise that they don’t really know enough. Trump thinking he’s a genius is a classic example.

[@anaoak7]

The west screws the Palestinians and anyone who accepts killing children is a fool. Go read the history without your blinder. I used to respect you but now I see you are another fool and unfair. You are talking about culture.

[@johnkinnicutt4509]

@@rorygilmoreNZ it's a song reference, The Refreshments "Banditos" United Federation of Planets and everybody knows, that the world is full of stupid people are lyrics in the song.

[@suchi0up]

@@anaoak7 any death is condemnable but the 3K missiles were targeted to whom, they didn't hit that is another story. So, either we should look for a peaceful solution and not be partial to one side (either of the two sides) or understand that both the countries have their hands dipped in blood of few Israeli citizens and so many kids from Palestine who die in these exchanges every now and then. 🙏🙏

[@jamesoc22]

The audience needs to stop clapping every time Bill breaths. It get tiring!!

[@ericminch]

Then he should just talk through it instead of pausing until it begins. It's as though he had one of those old-timey "APPLAUSE" signs lighting up. Heck, for all I know maybe he does have one.

[@quantalogue]

Or if they can at least make it so the audience isn't so loud. Sometimes it sounds like just 2 or 3 people when you listen closely. A few dumb dumbs who think what Bill says deserves the same reaction as a sporting event shouldn't have so much influence over the final product.

[@armandeidi8787]

They're his staff..what do you expect

[@Ctasker5]

It’s a paid audience that’s why

[@mohammedabidi2721]

I’d like to see Bill Maher vs Mehdi Hassan on this topic. Together with some popcorn and drinks, of course. 😉

[@andrewdobson813]

I'd watch that

[@user-sd6lg8lf5c]

Ah Mehdi Hassan is such a smug hypocrite

[@asiantiger04te64]

@@user-sd6lg8lf5c so is bill Maher

[@mehdihasan3690]

You dont need The Mehdi Hassan for Bill Maher on this topic.. You and me have enough knowledge to point out the nonsense of arguments.

[@doshi050050]

@@mehdihasan3690 I doubt that

[@sawyerengholm7743]

Lol Bill has to be the one to educate people in world history

[@jinkybhoy101]

Is this sarcasm?

[@murlinevans3722]

You misspelled “hasbara”

[@chelseamorning6219]

What bothers me most is that the conversation is stifled by being labeled as anti-Semitic without having the conversation about actual government. This causes a lot of stifling within the conversation.

[@janlay1735]

No ones calling you antisemitic for calling out and criticizing Israeli government policies. People will call you antisemitic if you deny the one Jewish state it’s existence.

[@mikek128]

This is such a straw man, like no one claims antisemtism unless you shout kill all the Jews or Israel is committing the Holocaust of the modern day because that is blatant antisemitism, that said any criticisms of Hamas and their policies becomes islamaphobic much quick in most arguments than it actually is, for example talking about women or gay rights

[@odedy6503]

Let me make sense of what's happening today regarding voting. Palestinians allowed to vote. in the west bank, at 2005, they elected Abbas as President. In Gaza strip they elected Hamas in 2006. Abbas never held general election ever again, it is assumed that out of fear Hamas will win over the west bank. Hamas never held election ever again too because, well, they're not exactly big fans of democracy. Arabs living in Israel has the same right to vote as anyone and one Arab party (out of two) named "Ra'am" is about to be part of the new government.

[@mydogsbutler]

You are right Hamas are extrremists but your narratives isn't objective because it leaves out the unsavory parts of the other side.. You left out the part of Palestinians having their property stolen at gunpoint., Jewish ultra orthodox types encouraging Jewish terrorism against minorities and not just Arabs. Israeli state finding ways to strip Arabs of their Israeli citizen, duel sets of laws that make it difficult for non-Jews to buy property, and illegal settlement practices in violation of international law. the largest human rights groups in the world have been accusing the Israeli state of aparteid for years. Then of course you might want to mention far rights own "river to the sea" rhetoric while they complain about Hamas doing it. I believe Maher opposes a compromise of a two state solution much like Netanyahu and Hamas.

[@Chargers19]

This is why I, a conservative, love Bill! He is willing to consider both sides and not just spew leftist shit! Good on you Bill! I wish more in your party were like you and not like 80% of the comments!

[@ba-dy8hr]

He support the criminal terrorist of israel that stole the homes and the lands of palestniens and massacred them only criminals support israel

[@sandeepfrancis3568]

Somebody should do a detailed video of how Yasar Arafat said no to a comparatively better solution than the present condition... By somebody i mean Bill...

[@17utk]

you also cant learn history from Bill's show.

[@ji8698]

Absolutely shame on him

[@sheltr9735]

You're not wrong. But SOMEBODY needs to kindle curiosity within the Instagram generation. Hopefully, Maher's show will induce people to learn the relevant history and form an informed opinion, not just a heartfelt but (IMO) severely non-analytical, opinion...

[@hdd1977m7]

Regardless of whatever Bill wants to call modern day Palestinians, the genetic makeup of the people living between Mesopotamia and Egypt has been pretty much the same for thousands of years according to this joint study: www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/dna-from-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews?cmpid=int_org=ngp::int_mc=website::int_src=ngp::int_cmp=amp::int_add=amp_readtherest The only thing that’s wrong with this study in my opinion is the disparate effort to apply western biblical definitions to the area. I think the whole story of the Israelites in my opinion can be a misinterpretation or mistranslation of the original ancient Hebrew text, to the point that the entire geography of the Bible story could’ve taken place somewhere else. One fringe theory that is gathering momentum shows evidence of striking resemblance between the names of tribes and geography in the Bible to that of Yemen! It also explains why no record of the Hebrews was found in hieroglyphic records in Egypt

[@Jjb-gk4ce]

@@hdd1977m7 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_(Roman_province) You do realize the romans liked to keep records, right?

[@Nobody-sb6tr]

Really? His lecture about the Jews being in Israel 1800 years before Islam even started was accurate.

[@akashgonga]

Bill Maher seems too enthusiastic to support Israel.

[@drugsarebad97]

The UN and practically every other nation decided after ww2 that the Jews deserved some safety and a place to call home . The west has respected this idea since it happened. It’s hamas who refuses to accept peace .

[@stevestop10]

That is a very watered down version of the story. To say it’s hamas who doesn’t want peace is deliberately misleading.

[@a.a.6789]

@@drugsarebad97 Well duh, if someone came to take my home for the sake of an oppressed minority I'd never give it away, let's not forget Jewish Europeans did everything they could to be sent to a western country, several countries like Uganda and Argentina were candidates for this this ne homeland, and if you're going to say:" Palestinians should just go to a neighboring countries", watch what Christopher Hitchens had to say about that. You can't make the people refusing to leave and the refugees that want to return after 70 years of statelessness the villains friend, and just look up how Israel came to be, literal terrorism, a priest called it isis tactics. The west has no right to give away land is not theirs.

[@a.a.6789]

@@drugsarebad97 Also, reminder that Hamas was created in 85/6, they didn't start any conflict, they're a symptom of it.

[@harryblack9614]

Sure and Hamas say they don't want peace in all the official statements. 😂

[@joujou_official]

Americans should be having this conversations right now

[@adrienneweis]

G-d bless you Mr. Maher. i hope you come visit us in israel very soon. i hope "eretz nehederet" will create a comedic relief skit with you. this is from 2 years ago and RELEVANT!!!!

[@1011skarn]

So, we're giving the US back to the Natives, right?

[@suzanne2]

And African Americans all get a right to claim some piece of land in Africa, even if people live there now. And we resurrect the Neanderthals to roam around Europe. 😂 And eventually all 7 billion of us are moving back to Africa. (Or if you are religious, to Iran where the Garden of Eden would have been.)

[@btat16]

And Australia, Canada, any place with a native population too.

[@btat16]

@@jaffrey1319 You mean Bill’s standard, since the original commenter was clearly making a point about how stupid that “originally there” point was

[@jusmecatalina]

@@btat16 only if we could resurrect the indigenous people killed by colonizers

[@SamLanena]

@@suzanne2 Odin is displeased with your heresy.

[@ChristianNelsonn]

Let's be honest, arguing for a people's right to "occupy" a land, based on who was there first is moronic. Very few countries today are of those who were there first. This includes the USA and massive parts of Europe.

[@Bxconnect]

So you mean very few countries whites have stolen or occupy. Asia, Africa, and S america has its original inhabitants +white people.

[@KomodoDojo]

What about having an established country there for 70 years in favor of a country that never existed because previously the land was controlled by Brits and Ottoman Turks

[@ninamartinez5596]

I know, I hate that BS

[@jaimhaas5170]

How come nobody ever looks at all the good things that have happened to South Africa BECAUSE it was colonized? When you look at that continent you could do far worse living in most other countries that are there.

[@SafetySpooon]

Let's be honest: calling the indigenous people, who were given back their land by the owners, "occupiers" is worse than moronic.

[@patrickwilkerson5131]

Would love to see his take a Taiwan and China then.

[@Deadly_fox512]

I bet that he would recognize Taiwan. He's also not wrong, Arab citizens are treated much better in Israel than Jewish citizens in Arab countries.

[@patrickwilkerson5131]

@@Deadly_fox512 no doubt

[@buzztrucker]

@@Asdfgfdmn Completely different argument.

[@Jonesy193912]

Yeah, but HBO doesn't want to see his take. They have investors to worry about.

[@danielmarcantuno]

@@Asdfgfdmn “our blacks”?

[@lucasharvey8990]

Loving it.

[@wokemaster1929]

Noone seems to be talking of Jordans annexation or how the Palestinians were asked to leave their homes by the Arabs in the 48 war. A very cocky move as the Arabs thought they couldn't lose.. This happened in SriLanka as well in the North during the war. The civilians were asked to move out by the terrorists as they thought the SL government could not win. What happened next is what happened to the Palestinians in 48 too. They couldn't win and go back. Got fucked over by the chaps apparently fighting for their rights... Neither of these are points willing to be discussed by liberal media. As a SL, my own family was asked to leave in the above mentioned incident. The Liberal Tamil diaspora who are pro terrorism, don't acknowledge this. This is what happened in the middle east as well and im seeing so many similarities, sadly..

[@SamiAljundi]

I know Bill Maher’s opinion before I click on the video and it will infuriate me, but his guest was more rational and made me calm down a bit!

[@jedimmj11]

What gave his opinion away? The title?

[@razorimalive2k]

@@jedimmj11 LOL

[@SamiAljundi]

@@jedimmj11 Since I have been following him for a long time, he is very vocal about not liking Muslims or any religion other than Judaism apparently, but I felt I should listen to the opposite view.

[@traiforse5777]

Pro Israel feels the same whenever they have to hear the 90% of news, social media, and talk shows that that're Pro Palestine. I respect you for trying to listen to the opposite side, but idk why you got angry for the little amount of opposition compared to the massive media coverage that agrees with you. And in my opinion, Bill Maher is not defending Jews specifically, but rather a more advanced and free country compared to it's neighbor.

[@somegirl4631]

@@SamiAljundi Really? I never saw that. I’m pretty sure you’re wrong and he’s an atheist, he doesn’t support any religion, he just supports Israel because it’s a secular country unlike Palestine who has capital punishment for non believers.

[@woman2251]

As an Israeli I would like to thank Bill. He understands and explains it better than anyone I have seen on the media. Thank you thank you and thank you again. Finally a voice of reason.

[@ketherstanek8751]

Thankfully Israel has been forced to preform interfaith marriages, reminds me of the US in the 1060’s.

[@woman2251]

@@ketherstanek8751 thankfully in my country not anyone who feels like it can go to a store and by a gun.... Way more important.

[@ketherstanek8751]

@@woman2251 yes, I wish my brother in law wasn’t able to get a gun so easily after threatening to kill me for marrying his sister even though I didn’t convert to Judaism.

[@theodoreroberts3407]

Thank you.

[@urbanimage]

The US government and political class are certainly on one side and it seems so is Bill Mather.

[@mameladenquark]

one of his parents was jewish, maybe thats why

[@yacin6472]

@@mameladenquark now this makes sense ....

[@jonathanturkmusic]

@@yacin6472 maybe its because one side is a representative government with human rights and the other side is radial islam and violence. anti semite much?

[@suckadick7754]

@@jonathanturkmusic So, radical judaism is not bad? The only reason the hamas is even a thing is Isreal created hamas

[@jonathanturkmusic]

@@suckadick7754 wow you obviously have no idea what you're talking about and get your history from social media. And what the fuck are you talking about radical Judaism? Last I checked Orthodox Jews aren’t stoning their daughters to death in honor killings or throwing gay people off of roofs. Maybe actually look into something before you chime in because it’s the trendy hash tag of the week.

[@jaconieuwoudt717]

South Africa's history is also a bit more nuanced than you make it sound Bill.

[@brandihillcom]

I find it peculiar that Maher brings up SA. As if Mandela and pretty much every South African I’ve ever met believes Palestinians are under apartheid rule 🤔🤷‍♀️

[@ZarkowsWorld]

@@brandihillcom That is because you only meet idiots.

[@SelfAweh]

@@brandihillcom Hi. South African here. Definitely not apartheid. I've been there and lived through apartheid. You can't compare

[@brandihillcom]

@@SelfAweh respectfully, I’d like to hear the perspective of a BROWN skinned South African who lived through apartheid. 🥰❤️ the pass id’s , the check points, the petty harassment’s seems to all line up 🤔. I dunno neither of us have toured Palestinian restricted zones…. But Gabor Mate, a Jewish man who lived through the Holocaust, has himself been on the ground, and says it is identical to apartheid.

[@brandihillcom]

@@SelfAweh governing South African agencies who have studied both areas seem to also conclude the simulators. 🤔A 2009, legal study was commissioned and coordinated by the Human Sciences Research Council (HSRC) of South Africa on Israel's practices in the occupied Palestinian territories under international law.[81] The report noted that one of the most 'notorious' aspects of the Apartheid policy was the 'racial enclave policy' manifested in the Black Homelands called bantustans, and added: "As the apartheid regime in South Africa, Israel justifies these measures under the pretext of 'security'. Contrary to such claims, they are in fact part of an overall regime aimed at preserving demographic superiority of one racial group over the other in certain areas".[82] According to the report, Israel's practices in the occupied Palestinian territories correlate almost entirely with the definition of apartheid as established in Article 2 of the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid. Comparison to South African laws and practices by the apartheid regime also found strong correlations with Israeli practices, including violations of international standards for due process (such as illegal detention); discriminatory privileges based on ascribed ethnicity (legally, as Jewish or non-Jewish); draconian enforced ethnic segregation in all parts of life, including by confining groups to ethnic "reserves and ghettoes"; comprehensive restrictions on individual freedoms, such as movement and expression; a dual legal system based on ethno-national identity (Jewish or Palestinian); denationalization (denial of citizenship); and a special system of laws designed selectively to punish any Palestinian resistance to the system. The study found that: "the State of Israel exercises control in the Occupied Palestinian Territories with the purpose of maintaining a system of domination by Jews over Palestinians and that this system constitutes a breach of the prohibition of apartheid." The report was published in 2012 as Beyond Occupation: Apartheid, Colonialism and International Law in the Occupied Palestinian Territories.[83]

[@doshi050050]

Thank you bill Maher

[@sarah6025]

If Israeli are the owners of this land, why do they need to kick people off their homes?

[@tonybarden9187]

Terrific Bill, why didn’t you tell us about the forced evictions of Palestinians, thanks for all the info

[@MelodyKia]

This is is clearly an emotional subject for Bill. He’s not listening, he’s not interested in the truth. He is defending blindly and fanatically. He’s having a real Religolous moment.

[@PeaceL0veandFreedom]

Bill is an outspoken atheist

[@inveele]

100%, Melody Kia. Bill Maher is blindly anti-Islam--in every context.

[@rogggggerful]

What if it is you that is defending religious fanatics that call themselves hamas, and you too would not last 1 days under their mysoginistic and homophobic rule.. you are the greatest hypocrites of all, shouting against israel from a western country. And im not even picking sides, i think israel has its fair share of guilt, as do the palestinians

[@karanbhatt9320]

I also think that Children and woman should not be killed in war. But Bill is right in one thing and that is that when UN give the solution it was Palestine who rejected it and motto of Hamas is just No More Isreal. Then how come you can talk and make peace with those people. But I agree that it was just power move from NatanYahoo this time and Hamas was showing off. Go and watch video by Ian Brammer from GZero

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

@@inveele Any rational person would be anti-Islam in every context.

[@sarahlefton]

Does Carville have a new gig with the Federation of Planets? He looks amazing.

[@josephhertzberg2734]

Hahaha!! Awesome

[@seenuhello1]

Great education on the subject by Maher. Thank you.

[@destiney47]

the native Americans need to hear this video. You should give them their homeland back!

[@blaisemacpherson7637]

They already have their homeland back. They just need to share it with other people. (By 'they' i mean all of the above natives jews arabs everyone)

[@andiofski2653]

Exactly what I was thinking. And doesn't the Bible say that the Jews took the land by war when they left Egypt? We should be on the side of humanity, equal treatment and rights to all. The way I see it, things will not improve for the Arabs in our lifetime.

[@freespeechchampsusanwojcic2528]

Hail Zion

[@destiney47]

@@freespeechchampsusanwojcic2528 you will root in hell Zion

[@hang10wannabe]

If you follow Native American history, the amount of land taking back and forth, good luck figuring out who the original land "owners" were.

[@Linkacide]

He should of had Mehdi Hasan on his show for this debate

[@nwagner643]

Norman Finkelstein

[@samlawson6931]

@@nwagner643 he would shred them to pieces

[@82Jaster]

@@samlawson6931 There's zero chance that'd happen. When it comes to the Middle East in particular, Bill doesn't like it when people really stand up to him. If you do then you aren't coming back on his show. And Finkelstein in particular would put him in check if he tried that bullshit argument about people defending Palestine despite their laws going against their belief system. You can see that from when he went off on that woman who started with her crocodile tears over Israel.

[@Alezey574]

I would have loved that. The problem here is people believe anything they hear. I am a fan of Bill's show, but he sometimes talks non-sense and forces his viewers to agree with him, even when he is wrong.

[@Tryingtofindmyway]

@@Alezey574 he's not wrong about this though.

[@MrBoazhorribilis]

A war in defense of the nation is NOT a crime. The attacker is committing the crime. Revolting how grown up people prevaricate in the name of being randomly compassionate .

[@justsain3236]

What would New Yorkers do if NY were turned into an open air prison by Canada? What would the US do?

[@chizukinspiration613]

Why are they in prison? They probably shouldn't have launched a war against Egypt and Israel?

[@defaultname2415]

Perhaps he could have just done a monolog rather then not allowing an invited guest to speak.

[@PostWarKids]

What has treating its citizens better than other countries got to do with the occupation?

[@johnobrien1528]

Nothing. Zionist smokescreen...

[@robertfaler7081]

Well, if the occupiers are treating the citizens of the other side better than their own government would, it gives them credibility with regards to civil rights

[@freespeechchampsusanwojcic2528]

Hail Zion

[@MintBullet]

He's responding to the common criticism that Israel is a racist apartheid state. Basically saying, yes, there is some difference in treatment, but despite that, arab israelis have more rights and freedoms than arab libyans etc...

[@standinginthecrowd5220]

@@p11361 that's a lie.

[@nilsstenvall3346]

Thanks Bill. You’re so right.

[@gehrigcupo3728]

bill maher is a legend, and im center right

[@ericminch]

Why does Maher invite someone with the broad and deep knowledge and the incisive intellect of Kristof onto his show and then interrupt him before he can even complete a sentence?

[@82Jaster]

Because Maher's not actually interested in a debate here. He has his mind made up and doesn't want to hear otherwise. It's why he won't have Rula Jebreal back on his show, or why he'll never have Abby Martin on it. It's also why he claimed he couldn't find any liberal journalists to defend Israel, which is comically absurd even for him.

[@maremacd]

And the audience (all ringers because they are his employees) applauding him only. I’d love to see someone like Kristof making policy, but I realize he is doing very important work in his current role. Also, he’s likely too decent for political life.

[@AB-rl8iz]

@@82Jaster what did he mean by liberal journalists defending Israel?

[@82Jaster]

@@AB-rl8iz He's claiming he couldn't find any liberal journalists to come on the show to defend Israel. Which is just ridiculous. While overall public sentiment may be swinging away from Israel, the media's support for Israel hasn't changed at all. And that goes for whether you're talking about left-wing or right-wing media. It's why Ali Velshi's segment on on MSNBC received so much attention because major TV outlets defending Palestine is so rare.

[@clovers-zi5fe]

@@82Jaster I would disagree to a point, though. For the most part, you are still correct. But even that is "kinda" changing too. Even Thomas Friedman, who I'm NO FAN of, called out Netenwhacko a couple of weeks ago. Joe Scarborough as well. So I would say some in the mainstream press are budging on this as of late. Albeit, just a few inches. But still, to hear and read this coming from right wingers is a shock.

[@realdukeofthemidwest]

"If I don't steal it someone else will"

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Jacob is a tenet dummy, The owner is Jewish and the tenets evicted didn’t pay their rent for 10 years

[@JM-nt5ex]

@@guitarlearningtoplay And who owned it before the Nakba? Or was this a more recent settlement? Who specifically stole the land means nothing in the grand scheme of the occupation.

[@abouelkhees]

@@guitarlearningtoplay That's a fucking lie and you know it

[@Fahad-gf1wx]

@@guitarlearningtoplay hundreds of thousands of Palestinians suffered ethnic cleansing yet u support Zionism

[@normalhuman6581]

@Allan Ros If someone steals your home I think u will not be happy Israel is illegitimate

[@beakerman40]

Common sence. Thank you bill. Always disagreed with you. But you are spot on brother with this!

[@Obake4777]

Don't always agree with Bill but he's a true classical liberal and I respect that. The type of man you can agree to disagree and still have an intellectual conversation.

[@shiftlessinseattle]

But not really because if he really disagrees he just starts yelling louder and goads his audience to applaud for his points or else.

[@Obake4777]

We're all entitled to our opinions.

[@Obake4777]

In fact some of us think we're entitled period.

[@OlavRH]

your comment in quintessential of foe-intellectual centrists. Only talking about "having tough conversations", without actually proposing anything

[@Just_Brigood]

If you kick people out of their homes and seize their land, how do you expect them to respond, with no gov’t or military how do they get to respond?

[@samiramroun8002]

They are supposed to shut up and take it, they will be put onto the ground until they accept their fate.

[@ZmillaZ]

Maybe they shouldn’t of waged a war of extermination in 1947, and instead accepted the two state solution. Palestine has never wanted peace, and until they want peace there will be none. You sound ridiculous

[@MrBandholm]

"no gov" They do have a government, they elected Hamas, and since Hamas got power there hasn't been a free election in Palestine. "or military"... So those 4000 rockets just materialized themselvs? Hamas has no fighters/soldiers?

[@botepp5219]

@@MrBandholm if you dont know the difference between fatah / hamas and gaza /west bank then just stfu.

[@mewing9619]

@@ZmillaZ delusional🤡

[@hereigoagain5050]

Did Bill use "What about ..." to support his position. He usually decries that debate tacit.

[@breet1516]

That's such a weak retort. What about [insert valid robust argument that proves a point]? What's wrong with that? lol Not his fault he has to inform Kristof's weak take.

[@bengee1040]

yes he did

[@Aereaux]

I spent a significant part of my life from 1983 to 1993. Great county with great citizens.

[@joelcom2761]

Wow!

[@timobaer405]

Did Bill just say "war crimes" are a silly argument?

[@buzztrucker]

@@Asdfgfdmn Even if he has no Jewish identity he's not wrong about the majority of what he said.

[@Asdfgfdmn]

@@buzztrucker let’s agree to disagree then

[@NJIT22]

@@Asdfgfdmn Israel has much more liberal human rights for all citizens, including Arabs, as you just heard right now. Arabs attacked Israel following declaration of independence with intention to repeat, as they declaring until now to do what Mohamed did when he was consolidating power on Arabian peninsula, which is exterminate all the Jews. And since then they lost battles and wars that they initiated themselves; wars has consequences and they need to accept their responsibility for this.

[@Pawelec801]

I was in Tel Aviv 2 years ago. Taking a walk around historic Jaffa where from a hill top you basically see most of Tel Aviv, I was quite shocked and surprised to hear Arabic prayers play all over the city from loudspeakers late evening. Imagine such tolerance for Jews in Arab states as Jews provide for Arabs living peacefully within their borders. Much of what Israel does deserves some criticism, but the fact is it is the only truly free and democratic country in that region of the world, so think about it before you trash them completely.

[@ThunderDog97]

"Imagine such tolerance for Jews in Arab states" - oh, do you mean like the 30,000 jews living happily in Iran? There are about 35 synagogues in Iran, isn't that terrible how they are treated there? Ooops, sorry did I accidentally step on your "we are always the victims" crying?

[@Pawelec801]

@@ThunderDog97 first of all you provide a false figure. I suggest you check your sources. It is more like 9k Second its mostly old folks that speak only Persian that still want to live there. Remaininder has been consistently moving out of Iran. I am no expert on this topic so I might be wrong here but I doubt jews in Iran are a prospering community.

[@ThunderDog97]

@@Pawelec801 I stand corrected, 30,000 is a dated number as many have made aliyah. "Today, 12,000 to 15,000 Jews remain in Iran, according to the committee. It’s a small minority in a nation of 80 million people. But consider: Iran is home to the Middle East’s largest Jewish population outside Israel. The number of Jews in Iran has plummeted since the 1979 Islamic Revolution"

[@TheDatabaseDude]

In the 1800's the Palestinians allowed the Christians to maintain their holy sites like the Church of the Holy Sepulture in Jerusalem and the Jews where allowed to maintain their wall in Jerusalem. In fact there where good relations between the Palestinians and the West until we stabbed them in the back at the Paris Peace Conference after World War One. They fought on our side in WW1 and liberated Aqaba from the Ottomans and helped Liberate Jerusalem. Then we turned around and made them a Protectorate of Britain all the while President Wilson was preaching "Self Determination for all Peoples". The British took away the right of the Palestinians to control their own immigration policy, resulting in a flood of unwanted Jewish Immigration that amounted to a virtual invasion. The British did see the error in their ways and tried to reverse the situation but it was too late and then the USA took over as the main benefactor of the Jews in Palestine. And the USA today complains about an increase in unwanted immigration from Mexico which is just a trickle compared to what the Palestinians where forced to take.

[@Pawelec801]

@@TheDatabaseDude I think you lay it out accurately and fairly. The problem I have with going back into history as to who owns what is how long do you go back ? A generation ? 10 generations or 100 perhaps ? If we rely purely on history and discard politics this is Jewish land.

[@lizatab]

Thank you

[@AbeFaur]

Bill Maher is excellent! Really excellent. Thank you.