New S&W Shield Plus Carry Comp First Shots: The One I've Been Waiting For Vs Sig P365

[@austingriff833]

You should do a top 5 integrally compensated guns for guns like the hellcat w/comp, carry comp, macro, Spector comp, etc

[@MrKlein83]

Yes, I too want that video!

[@slimdog1776]

If you’re listening Smith & Wesson; I just bought a carry comp because of Chris’s review. Thanks again Outlaw

[@John-jt5vd]

do you like it

[@MrKlein83]

I will buy one because I shot a Shield plus (no comp) vs a Sig P365X & vs a Hellcat at my local range. The Sig P365X is a great shooter but the Shield was slightly better.

[@cw7legionofpewrights596]

That’s why I bought the bodyguard 2.0

[@MrKlein83]

@@cw7legionofpewrights596 I want the Shield plus carry comp

[@lionsdenblog]

Just picked up a used one. VERY excited! Why? Because of this review.

[@thenauticalhunter7388]

Thanks for always being straight with us about the pros and cons of

[@laxharry]

The failure of the slide to lock back is an issue with the spring in those 13rd mags. I had the same issue on the normal shield plus. I called S&W and they sent a free spring to me, replaced the spring and never had a problem again. If you look closely, the part of the magazine(when empty) that pushes up on the slide lock isn't pushing up high enough to actually engage it.

[@marcusd3212]

With the new springs they sent you did you notice any difference in loading them or seating them on a closed slide? I had so many issues with the mags when they are new. Could load 12 rds but that 13th I would have to use a mag loader and push the living heck down until it would pop and I could get the 13th round in. Then when i would load on a closed slide it wouldn't cycle on first shot. After breaking in the mags and keeping them fully loaded it has seemed to work itself out but was curious if the new springs they sent were better on this.

[@laxharry]

@@marcusd3212 I can only speak for the one new spring I got, but I didn't have any issues loading all 13 rounds or with loading and firing the firearm.

[@erictiso9315]

​@marcusd3212 I just bought a Shield Plus. The 13 rd mags have a known issue where the back edge of the follower needs to be filled a small amount to encourage the spring to collapse all the way into it, and not get hung up on the small flat surfaces. Only takes a few minutes to fix. Search for videos on it, you'll see.

[@marcusd3212]

@erictiso9315 ahh awesome to know! If I ever need to get more I'll do this. After forcing them to pop and keeping them fully loaded they are good to go now. I had to continue to run my PC shield till someone made a holster for the 4" anyways.

[@LTJunior74]

Same issue when I tried a 15rd and different 13 didn't have a problem

[@josephpa6217]

Yes to the comparison video to Sig, also to the new Hellcat pro comp.

[@JasonKonley-bh2kb]

This would be great. Carry comp comparison

[@DocWhiskey1776]

I’d dig the new M&P carry comp vs the new p-09 c nocturne …I’m getting both anyway lol but I want to know which to get first

[@Snapper314]

I'd love a comparison between the top 3 Sig P365 Versions: (XMacro / AXG Legion / Radian Ramjet Afterburner & Backstrap, Magwell)!!

[@adambaez2114]

Yes very much needed please. Also throw in the shield plus performance series. This definitely needs to happen. I’d even pay to see this so I save money not buying the wrong one

[@adambaez2114]

@honestoutlawreviews

[@mooktemas6800]

Chris, did you hear about the new CZ p09? I can’t wait for your review. I don’t know why CZ doesn’t ship these guns to you before release.

[@mitchellspringer7025]

Beat me to it! Been waiting YEARS For them to drop a updated 07!

[@flipperzero9662]

Chris isn't the only knowledgeable person on the planet 😂

[@mjbalice]

Can’t wait for him to make that video

[@sleigh4019]

You keen the new slide ? Lol they gave a optics cut slide and fixed the deal controls so if you own one just upgrade that's at least something they got right

[@BagsEsquire]

@@flipperzero9662it’s one of, if not, his favorite pistol, that was the point of the post.

[@davidbryan5698]

I have a 4 inch performance center shield plus and it’s my #1 carry gun. It’s been dead on reliable and is so easy to shoot accurately

[@toynazi]

i have a shield plus and I just picked up the 4 inch slide so I can swap in between the two. Gonna see which one I like the most. It's cool they will both work with the same lower frame.

[@John-jt5vd]

@@toynaziWhat do you think so far

[@toynazi]

@@John-jt5vd I like both of them. Both slides are easy to carry. The shield plus is a great little pistol. A little more weight than most of the little micro guns which is why I prefer it.

[@John-jt5vd]

@@toynaziDo you notice the 4 inch slide is harder to carry? I am torn between the carry comp and the 3.1 inch shield plus PC for my first EDC gun

[@toynazi]

@John-jt5vd The 4 inch isn't that much bigger honestly. With a good holster you should be good with it. Depending on your build and the holster used either will work. I usually carry the regular shield plus instead of the 4 inch. The gun is so thin that comfort almost any way you carry it it perfect. I normally carry at the 4 O'clock.

[@wesleyfinch1574]

Shield + is my go to EDC. Love that freaking gun. I usually use the 13rd mag that allows me to get all fingers on the grip. And carry a spare 15rd mag.

[@tylermorrison7051]

I pocket mine with the 15 round mag and carry two spare 13's and a 10. The 15's are comfortable enough that I've considered switching out the 13's.

[@John-jt5vd]

Which version? Thoughts on 3 vs 4 inch barrel

[@tylermorrison7051]

@John-jt5vd Mine is the 3.1. Other than a friend's longer M&P 2.0 10mm, I haven't shot any of the longer S&W 9mm's. I will say that the Plus isn't necessarily a pocket gun, but it works in carpenter jeans. Add another inch and a 17-round mag (no such thing yet), and it won't.

[@matthewshelton9573]

@@John-jt5vd4 inch all day unless you want the manual safety, in which case you will need the 3. Seems easier to find holsters for the 3 inch/tlr 6 combo as well if that matters to you.

[@John-jt5vd]

@@matthewshelton9573 Looking for my first EDC for appendix carry. Narrowed it down to the shield after lots of research, is the 4 inch harder to carry than the 3 do you think?

[@josephferrer2897]

I got the new shield plus comp myself 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love it. Shots great and absolutely love the recoil management with it.

[@mariettadashcam6857]

How you liking it I got one last night to add to collection

[@josephferrer2897]

@@mariettadashcam6857 still loving it, I've put 600 rounds through and no issues and the trigger is breaking in a little.

[@danielmedaglia4171]

any updates on it?

[@josephferrer2897]

@@danielmedaglia4171 I'm over 1000 rds now and still no issues. The trigger has definitely lightened up a little and shoots with very good accuracy out to 100 yards

[@John-jt5vd]

@@josephferrer2897Hoe easy is to carry

[@inferninx]

12+1 mags is accurate. You need the strength of Zeus to freakin get that 13th round in those mags. Not sure if it’s a spring or follower problem, but only one of my 4 13 rounders will actually fit 13 rounds in. I worry about damaging the feed lips on the others if I try to load that 13th round.

[@TallTimbersUSA]

Same here, and I got 14 rounds in the 15 round mags.

[@marcusd3212]

I had this issue also, and when you would put the fully loaded 13 round mag in on a closed slide it wouldn't cycle. So I used a mag loader and pushed down on the 12th rd with incredible force. It would pop and let me get the 13th in. I then left them fully loaded for some time and now all my mags work fine. Just weird I had to do that and carry 12 in the mag till they were broken in. Someone said that the slide lock not working was do to the spring. Smith sent them new springs, I just asked them if it solved the other issues with the mags so I didn't have break in time.

[@inferninx]

@@marcusd3212 mine doesn’t work all that reliably. Perhaps I’ll have to give smith a call and see if they’re willing to send me a new one.

[@marcusd3212]

@inferninx ya, mine didn't either. But once I forced it and made it pop then left them loaded for awhile they've been great so I never called Smith.

[@pranc236]

I may be able to help with the mags. Place mag on something hard (knee or table) take last round in right hand, push mag rds down with left thumb where tabs are so they move down just a little bit. Hold with left thumb while starting to load last round with right hand. Keep the pressure so you still have a gap and quickly remove left thumb and place on top of right thumb and push with both hands. I figured this out when my hands were wet but it has help many people. Im sure it will get better after it all wears in. Good luck and hope it helps.

[@SuperDerfmaster]

Definitely a Smith guy. My Shield Plus has served me well so far.

[@gingerd4321]

Can;t wait for your review of the NEW CZ-P07 that’s coming out soon with better grip texture and optics ready!! Love my p-07 and have been wanted an optics ready version, also the new grips look amazing! Right up your alley, hope you get an early review!!!

[@pranc236]

Sounded like CZ listened to chris! 😂

[@mikerobinson8734]

It’s called a P09 Compact. Czp07 is discontinued.

[@Mark409375792762670]

I got one a few weeks ago, I noticed my mags were STIFF, an uplula mag loader helped with that. I had mag drop issues( the 10 rd mag would not fall when pressing mag release ) when empty (dry fire) but I also switched my mag release for left hand shooting. I did not have any last round hold open issues with any of the included mags. After zeroing my dot and putting 300 rounds through it, it ran fine mag after mag. I had no other magazine issues other than them being stiff even when hammering them against a table they took it like a champ. I switched to the shield from a G19 so for me I did have to adjust to the aspect of really breaking in a new pistol. I still love it and I'm glad I got it. I put an Holosun EPS carry on mine and it fit directly to the slide. LGS worker confirmed it for me before I even bought it.

[@michaelcaesar4610]

U didnt use a plate for eps carry?

[@Mark409375792762670]

@@michaelcaesar4610 no! It fit the footprint on the sheild. I had an employee at my LGS test fit it on the slide before I bought it.

[@robertkwiatkoski1292]

Intrresting your comment on the mag "extension " moving around. I purchased a Rami some time ago, and that longer mag moves way to 3:12 much . Thank you for your videos!

[@PassPort4D]

Go ahead and finish out with the compact carry version. Definitely want to hear your insight on it!

[@brians5415]

"The one you've been waiting for!" Cried out the New CZ P-07...

[@Osmonic74]

It is technically the CZ p-09c.

[@mattwestendorf2039]

@blackout.ghost718 the new P-09c us the updated P-07 that was announced today.

[@mattwestendorf2039]

@blackout.ghost718 I wish I was that confident in things I know nothing about...lol. Maybe stick with Glock since change seems to be hard for you.

[@SteveHamlin1]

@@mattwestendorf2039 The P-07 is larger than the Shield Plus 4" by: 1/4" H, 1/4" L, 1/3" W, and 5 oz weight.

[@steveisgood2go]

The new CZ p07 & New p09 look great.

[@jamestucker7513]

The M&P is my #1 favorite striker fire. This is the 3rd review with no lock back. Nice gun. Odd problem to have tho. Thanks for all the info you bring

[@murphymmc]

I have Sigs, I have Smiths, if I were looking at these two to purchase, I'd have to go Smith. They get so many things right at a good price point.

[@Arlen55]

Agreed. Better trigger out of the box and it's not even close

[@coreysharp9794]

​@@Arlen55 when did smith improve their trigger? Used to carry the m&p 40. Horrid trigger on that model. That was years ago.

[@John-jt5vd]

Did you end up getting it. What do u think

[@YooperRev88]

Carried a shield plus for a long time but the grip was just always small for my hands… finally switched to the 365 macro with an Icarus grip for daily carry and it is the dream gun for me.

[@WN_Byers]

Same, shield was too small. Mischief Machine XXL

[@michaeleickenhorst8189]

Doesn't that get you into the Legion price range? Does Icarus have trouble with holsters?

[@WN_Byers]

@@michaeleickenhorst8189 axg legion? Yes. For Mischief Machine there are a few holster options. I have a Shape shifter and a Havok Holster love 'em both. Had this setup for over two years before the legion came out. Can't speak on Icarus

[@peterb2346]

Great info.... And yes, Comp the "Comps". Sig 365 Comp vs this bad boy......

[@Schizophrenic-Clown]

Edc is Shield plus with safariland schema aiwb holster. Flush fit mag with pinky extension. No optic, as I'm going for smallest footprint possible. Great review, great gun, I'll wait for S&W's next best micro 9

[@deebee4575]

I am the same way. Here in Florida you want something as small and light as possible since you're probably wearing shorts and a T-shirt most days.. Mine is a Shield Plus, Trijicon iron sights, 13rd mag. Simple, easy to conceal. I have almost 6000 rounds through that thing and it's just a war horse.

[@John-jt5vd]

@@deebee45753 inch or 4 inch barrel?

[@tobyhayes611]

Sig makes a great gun and I carried one for 24 years, but I'm a S&W guy. I love the M&P series and bought one in every caliber starting 14 years ago. I can't wait to shoot the Shield Plus Comp. Thanks for the great review.

[@coreysharp9794]

The original m&p dates back to 71. Model 67 k frame 38spl M&P

[@MegaPills1]

@@coreysharp9794 the k frame .38 M&P actually dates back to 1899 and it’s still being made today as the Model 10

[@coreysharp9794]

@MegaPills1 I don't recall it being officially called the m&p until the 67 model. But I have a motto for you I live by, why be right when you can be wrong much easier. 😂

[@John-jt5vd]

Did you end up getting it what do you think

[@tobyhayes611]

@@John-jt5vd Not yet, I do have an older Shield that I used to carry all the time, but my aging eyes, the slim grip and short sight radius did not work well together. I did get a Springfield Hellcat Pro and it is a great shooter with a 3.7" barrel and a little more streamlined in terms of overall size. I'd love to shoot the new Shield Plus before committing to a purchase.

[@lukegerow2497]

I wish you made a video comparing all of the shield plus models and which ones your favorite.

[@ShieldGuy2326]

I love my Shield Plus, big fan. Just wish they did the 4inch with a light rail. They have the room for it. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dimemmo]

I got one of those edge grips for my p320 after seeing one of you’re last videos and I’ve gotta say it feels great

[@cajunred6804]

Good lord s&w. Put a freaking light mount on your guns!!!

[@justified_edc]

It’s mind blowing that they extended the slide for the comp but refused to put an extended frame with a light rail

[@cajunred6804]

@@justified_edc the worst part is they don’t even need to extend it!! Keep the frame the same so the holsters still fit. Just put a simple line across the bottom and call it a day. I literally cannot fathom the downsides to a light option. The people that don’t want one will buy it anyway. The people that do want one now buy something else. Ffs

[@Arrowheadgoodsco]

@@justified_edcfound you 😂👀

[@justified_edc]

@@Arrowheadgoodsco 🤣

[@SamuelChavez-j3h]

I agree wholeheartedly, if you plan on an upgrade follow through on adding too the nomenclature and let the customer decide their options. Thx Y’all

[@VinnySem1972]

Hey Chris, read the back of the Blazer package. They warn against using with a ported/comped barrel.

[@rd4660]

I carried a Glock 22 for 27 years for work. Now that I'm retired I've downsized and own the California compliant 9mm Shield and the 9mm P365. As much as I'm trying to like the Sig, the Shield is my EDC for its ergonomics.

[@Mikethecoolguy]

Retired California Cubs can buy off roster guns just FYI, but maybe you weren’t a cop in California but then that begs the question. Why would you ever move to this hellhole?

[@KonaLife]

Old Shield? Or Shield Plus? They’re different in a lot of ways

[@coreysharp9794]

Cali compliant hahahhaa. Some goon with a switch and a drum will teach you bud.

[@rsl82568]

My S&W 9mm Shield Plus with a True Precision Treaded Barrel now has a True Precision Micro Comp. Its almost 4 inches now. I love it.

[@jakepalmer1747]

Your lawn mower must LOVE all that brass😂

[@HazardousRob]

yea,, im sure those steel blades really get chewed up by soft brass lol...

[@bradhaines3142]

have you ever tried cutting wires with scissors? its not easy, and it doesnt take long to be basically impossible with how fast it gets dull. same issue for the mower​@@HazardousRob

[@OneWildTurkey]

@@HazardousRob Think 18,000 fpm blade hitting a stationary metal (even soft brass) object. The blades don't stand a chance.

[@coreysharp9794]

​@@HazardousRob 🤡

[@mitchelperkins6723]

​@@OneWildTurkey They do zing pretty hard coming out of the blade deck. Had one stick into Masonite siding on a out building. Small ding in the case. Went mouth first into the wall. PS: I would love to go to Chris's place and gather brass.. Surely someone picks it up for reloading. I always police mine up.

[@StormbornJKU]

My wife really wants this gun so I am very grateful for your review!

[@oshagnificent314]

Been waiting on this but now can’t wait for new cz p07/09 like the rest of us 😁 Thanks Outlaw

[@fullmetal_dragon]

Me as a lady fan: Chris' videos are always so enjoyable and informative!I Enjoy seeing all of the guns he tries and his straight forward discussion (and humor). He's the reason my first gun was a P-10 Also me: OMG that picture of Mr and Mrs Outlaw is so cuuuute! And also: yes please to the verses video

[@tomdavis1046]

I Carry the 9mm M&P shield plus from the performance center. It’s a great carry gun. It’s great that you do these videos so I don’t have to go out and buy a new gun cause it’s gotta comp etc and then turn right around an go right back to my go to anyway dig your videos (not to say I won’t pick one up) lol

[@sparkyatlarge]

That was a really nice shot of the two of you walking down the road holding hands. Seriously, marriage isn't easy. Glad for your success!

[@dalaanibombina8822]

If your marriage isn’t easy, then you’re obviously doing something wrong.

[@charlessalmond7076]

As a 53yr old single man, AMEN. A successful relationship is a beautiful thing.

[@CaptainCraigKWMRZ]

I guess I have been lucky for 48 years. Especially the years we had female roommates in a one bedroom home. Maybe that's a Key West thing? KWlifestyle#

[@JoshK-i4h]

I just ordered this pistol last week because of your continued support for the shield over a Sig. Primarily for the grip difference and price. I was also looking at red dots and the sales on the defender recently with direct mount was very appealing. Rewatching this video and seeing you using it has also pushed me to purchase that over spending double or more.

[@woodhalltribe]

The Shield was never an option for me in the past because the magazine release was not reversible, but the shield comp and new Bodyguard 2.0 are. Definitely interested in them now.

[@Arlen55]

All M&P's are ambi mag release - always been that way.

[@petergalvez6431]

I’ve learned to use my index finger. Im lefty and have guns that you can reverse the mag release but I keep it standard. I also hit the slide release with my index finger also

[@connorsurgeon8976]

I was ganna say pretty sure mine is. ​@@Arlen55

[@GaryDDowdy]

I am a longtime Glock guy who finds his S&W count climbing. I was issued a 1911 and eventually transitioned to the M9 Beretta. Prior to the Glock my civilian carry was strictly S&W model 66

[@scottkerns5493]

Still wish S&W would make a slight change on the Shield frame to the dust cover portion so a decent light could be attached. But still a great setup.

[@tracycouch246]

@@scottkerns5493 I agree 1000% they have a full 4 inch barrel and still no rail. Doesn't make any sense.

[@scottkerns5493]

@@tracycouch246 they could dominate the CC market if they did

[@wgd19671]

Been waiting for you to review this one! I have a regular 3.1 shield plus and a no optic 4.0 PC shield plus. Both excellent reliable guns.

[@svm81]

When's the 1k round review coming? Is it worth getting the comped version?

[@eurothrasher2823]

Compensator at end of barrel....how are they when firing in the dark ? Increased muzzle flash directly at front post anyway a problem for your eyes night vision.....???

[@danielclark4000]

I have gotten the 15rd mags for my Shield Plus and they tent to not lock back unlike the 10rd or 13rd mags. Also, I tend to remove the 15rd mag baseplate when loading into the firearm, too. As much as I like the couple extra rounds, I think the 13rd mags are the way to go.

[@Osmonic74]

This is what I have found and why I carry with the 13 round mag.

[@lerch870]

Great review! The S&W carry comp and the Sig P365 macro comp are two great guns. Like you said in the video, guns shoot differently. I prefer the way a p365 shoots. I tried a S&W Shield Plus. I liked it, I wanted to love it, but I shot the P365 much better. I think I could learn to shoot well with this S&W but it wouldn’t be my natural shooting tendencies. Glad S&W has continued to innovate and keep the pressure on Sig!

[@LS1007]

I don’t have a S&W auto, just two of their revolvers so this might be the one to get. Thanks for all your reviews! 🙏🏼

[@Kennoisewater123]

The shield plus line is the most underrated line out there. Incredible price and quality. I have the ported pc model. Incredible

[@elijahsnodgrass2036]

Just a heads up if anyone is interested in the Handle It grips: he mixed up the textures in this video. The edge is the one that is nicer for carry, the elite is the extremely aggressive one.

[@danielboydelatour]

I own a shield 4". It's great. It's compatible with either the glock 19 or glock 17 recoil guide rod assemblies which are generic screw apart type. glock 17 sits at the end with a little additional spring preloaded and the glock 19 assembly is tucked in a little. Agree the factory spring is too stiff, same complaint described in the video

[@GlockFanboy45]

Always great reviews

[@timrainey3970]

Bought this gun today. Can't wait to shoot it. Thank you Chris for the video. I also have the M&P 2.0 Spec series. Big S&W fan.

[@mitchellspringer7025]

Only thing I hate about it is no freaking rail! This would be a holy grail with being able to use a light

[@jvz1448]

I agree but the SHR9 adapter isn’t too ugly

[@Joe-hz1nw]

The TRL-6 isn’t a bad option. It’s brighter than you think it would be.

[@jayfish01]

Same. A rail on this would instantly make it more enticing to me. Not sold on the comp by itself just yet but would like to see a muzzle rise comparison of Shield Plus vs. Shield Plus Carry Comp using the same ammo.

[@volbrenYT]

exactly why I went with the Hellcat Pro OSP Comp - would've definitely chosen this one if there was a rail.

[@mikerobinson8734]

Why do people need a light on their pistol? Been running pistols for decades just fine without one. A light turns you into a good bullseye to aim for.

[@proxima_5]

Been watching a lot of reviews of different pistols lately and finally decided that I would make the shield plus carry comp my first ever firearm

[@jeremylyson8278]

I'm more of a Smith guy, but I can't deny that my xmacro is my favorite edc.

[@John-jt5vd]

Do you still carry it today

[@jeremylyson8278]

Yeah why? ​@John-jt5vd

[@John-jt5vd]

@@jeremylyson8278 Looking for my first EDC asking different people what they like. What do u like the p365 over the shield

[@jeremylyson8278]

​@John-jt5vd if s&w made a full size grip, meaning 15 or more for the shield plus I'd probably still be carrying that. I don't care for mags with extensions on them. Especially on small pistols. The xmacro grip feels amazing, and is 17 +1. If the shield plus ever comes in a 15 pr more +1 grip I may switch back. I shot my shield plus pistols really well. As I do with the xmacro. The 17+1 with the grip is what sold me on the xmacro. After the shield plus comp came out recently I was debating on going back still. Especially after how nice my m&p metal comp shoots. I'm in no hurry though. I'll have to shoot one before I decide.

[@terencewilliams448]

Smith has been doing a awesome job. You should do a 3 way vs video of the smith metal competitor, spec series and the metal carry comp

[@AllAboutSurvival]

The S&W Shield Plus Carry Comp looks like a solid contender against the Sig P365. The added compensator is a nice touch, especially for managing recoil in a micro-compact

[@bamahammer949]

A 4" barrel isn't a "microcompact"

[@Vagabond671]

AI channel

[@unclecracker5010]

​@@bamahammer949 The barrel size doesn't determine if it's a MICRO COMPACT or COMPACT. It's the grip size that determines that.

[@bamahammer949]

@unclecracker5010 Oh grip size I see what do I know, what about when you put in a, extended mag and extends the "Grip?" With a 15 rd mag¿ Bro a micro compact is a Bodyguard or a gen 1 shield or a Bersa 380 etc

[@charlieblackwell2901]

i recently purchased the S&W Carry Comp and completely agree with you on Recoil Spring Weight. I contacted S&W tech folks and was told it came with a 16Lb Spring and anything lighter could cause cycling problems, now I don't have a way to check poundage, but I find it hard to believe that it's 16lbs. I'm a pretty old guy and own a few semi auto pistols, large, small and in between and when I first got the pistol, I was amazed at how hard it was to rack the slide. None of my pistols compare to this one, now part of that is the width being 1 inch, but I have other inch wide pistols to compare it to. I'm glad I ran into your video on this particular pistol. On your 1000 round update video I'm hoping you will throw in the actual poundage of the spring as I think you might have proper equipment to check this sort of thing.

[@kcOO69360]

S&W have been knocking it out of the park in recent years, love it!

[@dsunsparky8668]

It would be interesting to see the difference in flash profile between the single port and the 2 port comps in low light with defensive ammo. I had a Springfield V-10 forever ago and while it didn't obscure my sight picture it was still pretty noticeable.

[@clutchshot3306]

I own both Sigs and an M&P. I love both. I shoot well with both but don't shoot them the same. My grip changes depending on what platform I'm shooting but the principles are the same. The only reason I haven't bought the Shield is because of the lack of a rail. I like how it shoots vs the 365. I also have largish hands. Sure, odds are I may not need a light but then again, odds are I don't need my firearm as well. I prefer to stack the odds in my favor. No hate towards those that don't prefer a light. The fact that more good people (not just criminals) are carrying a firearm is a win in my book. Carry how you want to carry. Just please do it responsibly.

[@Duffman_1776]

The 15 rnd mag I have for my shield plus never locks back for some reason. My 10 and 13 rounders do however.

[@hunter1028]

When will you do a video on the new Cz p-07???

[@Osprey1994]

Did you watch the video from TFB? They said the guns they were showing off were prototypes. You're a bit premature asking for a review date.

[@hunter1028]

@@Osprey1994 Did you watch the official Cz page? It's already available. You are a bit of cowboy, shoot and ask questions later.

[@Grasshopper0122]

Now, laaadies……it’s starting to sound like Happy Acres Trailer Park and Rehab…! Take a deep breath, open a fresh box of Cheetos and lay back in that fine bean bag chair that grandma gave you for Christmas…….😂😂😂

[@hunter1028]

@@Grasshopper0122 hahaha everybody calm down 😄

[@jordancarrick8675]

Thanks for doing this review! I JUST got this carry comp with a 507k acss vulcan as a bday gift to myself. Know I know how well it could shoot when I get better lol. I've shot 500rnds through it so far and no issues. Just typical noob learning. Zero'd in at 20yds. Playing around with different ammo now.

[@boostedgsr8580]

Got mine in last week. Crazy thing is i have it for sale for under MSRP/MAP and yet nobody wanted it at the pew show

[@kastme9]

Best guy on KZbin doing these reviews 💯

[@Andy0950]

I've never seen you struggle like this with an m&p. Makes me think this gun isn't so great. Maybe it's just that optic isn't great it seemed like it was shooting all over the place compared to how you usually shoot.

[@deebee4575]

I'm sure the gun itself is fine. I've claimed the optic first. And any shooter even a pro like this guy can have a few bad shots.

[@tylerthomason9461]

It really seems to me like the optic is the issue. The lock back is an issue with the 13 rounders, had the same issues with mine. You just need a new spring or just get the 15 rounders

[@asathomas84]

​@@tylerthomason9461do you know if the 15 round spring will work in the 13 rounders for more oomph?

[@tylerthomason9461]

@@asathomas84 not sure, I ended up just buying a 15 rounder and using the 13 as a backup. The spring in the 15 rounder is super stiff though I don’t think it’d fit all that well

[@asathomas84]

@@tylerthomason9461 I have a 15 rounder that I leave loaded, but just hand cycling it doesn't lock back. I still need to test it under live fire though.

[@basementality4924]

After watching alot of reviews for this one I’ll be sticking with my shield plus PC. I like the shorter barrel for a shorter holster. Eventually get it milled like yours for optic cut, weight savings, and cool factor.

[@mikerobinson8734]

I bought one. Not happy with it.

[@JoshuaE-BiblePatriot]

I’m a SS guy….. Sig and Smith. Both are better than Glock

[@brianfidler2439]

Big facts!

[@JohnnySilverhand-qz1fz]

Wow you know what everyone knows so amazing

[@marzcapone9939]

Just got two of the 15 round mags. Read on some forums that it's the same length spring as the 13 round mags. They just came in the mail today, so I haven't had a chance to take them apart or do any testing. Loaded one, only held 14, felt tight. IIRC, my 13 rounders didn't take 13 at first.

[@GeoffreySage]

Nice 👍

[@robertezell1916]

And yes, before I buy any handgun I’m going to watch your review first and then there are several other gun reviewers that I put a lot of faith in but your opinion matters that most to me. Also all my 124gr handloads are going to be at least NATO spec’ed or hotter, definitely + P loadings. If a pistol will stand up to my handloads it’s a bad ass weapon because I push it to the ragged edge!

[@docgillygun9531]

Honest Outlaw: "Maybe I just suck at shooting today." That's a big group for me. Me: Strutting off the range with Jerry Miculek vibes going through my head.

[@Gonzilla.]

First video ive watched of yall and ya got my sub. Keep up the great videos! Stay honest and stay dope!❤

[@AMoistLamp]

Finally!

[@fireyourrocketts]

I just picked the bodyguard and the mo9 shield plus performance with the ported barrel; this one was there for $100 more but decided on the performance, which it is smaller and because I was buying 2, the sig is my EDC

[@dwaynechristensen6449]

Sig is quickly becoming HK. Good features, Good quality, With a Gargantuan price tag. Accessories are the same way. IMO. Love the Smith tho. Great Video Folks!

[@dblankenship88]

Facts.

[@Osprey1994]

Not really...

[@PitbullSoco]

Not even close to hk reliability lol

[@ThomasIagrosse]

Excellent video. Need to compare the Shield Plus to the Hellcat Pro Comp.

[@RightOverLeft]

I've been waiting on the Honest Outlaw and Mrs. Honest Outlaw to review this one. Thanks!

[@e137enfingers5]

I was hoping to see a new hk this year, but a new shield is pretty cool. Thanks for the vid!

[@jglennify]

Woot!

[@NatvBearHntr]

Ricochet at 10:34? Wondering how close that was if the camera picked it up? If that’s what I heard. Thanks for the great review. This is one I am considering for my wife’s carry.

[@brianc0019]

Why would someone buy this over the M& P 2.0 3.6" Compact? - 15rds flush, or 17, or the stick with 26 rounds. The comp is not really what most of you think it is - don't get me wrong it's nice, but the 3.6 shoots flat with 147's and "yes" I know the 3.6 is slightly thicker at 1.16" vs 1.1" - splitting hairs with that approach because S&W's are generally slimmer than other firearms. Last S&W already had a ported version of the Shields and the 3.6 shoots soft like a 4.25" M&P IMHO. All the info was pulled from S&W’s website 👍

[@oldmanjenkins771]

I agree. Must be for shield fans

[@GabrielCarterEGA]

The 3.6 is my EDC. Can’t be beat..

[@Joe-hz1nw]

The reasons are the following: 1. 2.0 is thicker. It’s noticeable inside the waistband 2. 2.0 has a longer grip, less concealable 3. 2.0 weighs more 4. The difference on the clock and out to around 40 yards isn’t that big if you practice. You see how fast outlaw can shoot the standard shield plus, many of us can do about 90% of that speed bc we practice routinely. I personally just got third in a shooting competition with a standard shield, guys that beat me had $4-$6k 2011’s. For 1&3, many of us want to dress in whatever we want and may carry in impermissible environments. Freaking some libtard out and having a trigger happy cop/off duty cop show up is far more likely for many of us than getting into an actual gunfight. A bit of extra speed and accuracy you get with stepping up doesn’t really matter much, particularly up close.

[@davidhudson2527]

The slimness is part of it's allure. The 2.0 3.6 Compact is 1.3" wide not 1.16" making it just as robust and chunky as the Glock 19. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. Do better.

[@GPG7754]

I'd rather have the subcompact 2.0 that nobody talks about instead of the 3.6 compact.

[@BlackBearOutdoors]

Got that same optic on my older Shield Plus. Good little summer carry package. Thanks for the upload, enjoyed the video.

[@DPM-dp9on]

Nothing worth giving up my Glock 26 for…still the best all around edc gun for me.

[@BoSamson1680]

Hard to beat a 26 for carry and reliability

[@2Adanny7575]

I love ur honesty and the husband and wife team is impressive my wife and I are the same I just can't get her off her Kimber platform lol

[@DeusRegum]

If the bottom of a sprinfield mag did the same thing, it would be a deal breaker, but since it is S&W, it gets a 'Kudos to them!'. I love Honest Outlaw, but his S&W bias is extremely biased.

[@delb15]

Lmaooooo the review of the echelon said it all he tried his best did things never seen on the channel to break it but that mf got the last laugh and 1up 😂 mf kept shooting

[@DeusRegum]

@@delb15 🤣🤣🤣

[@MrKlein83]

After shooting a Sig P365x, a Shield plus, and a Hellcat vs my G43 I now want the Shield plus carry comp as my edc

[@kylethompson2539]

Love to see a SW vs P365 video at some point! Maybe even part of your 1K round review

[@jerold8908]

I wanted to hear more about the Vortex optic, My Shield plus could use an upgrade from the Crimson Trace and the Holosun doesn't fit properly.

[@Joe-hz1nw]

You can take a metal file to two of the “nubs” that stick up and a Holosun will fit flush afterwards. Or just use the adapter plate and an inch lb torque wrench. It will Stay just check it every 500 rounds or so (I know from experience doing both of these things I have two shield plus pistols)

[@khalilbradley3016]

Can you PLEASE do the m&p carry comp but the polymer version!!! Thank you for everything helped me a lot with choices I just got the polymer version def would love to see what you say about it

[@miket9787]

Have and carry the Sig 365 X macro comp, the game changer is the radian raptor backstrap grip module with magwell. It is made of aluminum and really makes the perfect purchase on this platform. Highly recommend the radian backstrap, worth every penny!!!

[@trevorsantanello8066]

Your my favorite gun reviewer on YT for many reasons but the only thing I would say that could help you’re almost perfect reviews is to just review the gun itself with the factory iron sights instead of doing a review on an optic at the same time.

[@bitdancer1005]

Yes, yes, and yes to the Spectre Comp comparison!

[@Tihsllubllasti]

I'm definitely not a Sig guy. Sold the 365 after shooting and carrying it for months. Love the size for carry but never felt confident shooting. I just went back to carrying my 38 snubby. May not hold much but I know I can hit what I want to with it. I will be trying out some more compacts soon ttho, based on your recommendations, and the Shield is definitely on the list.

[@fonzee3237]

FINALLY!!! the only review on this I’ve been wanting to see!!!!

[@heathkurtz8543]

I just put 750 rounds throughout mine today and its a really nice gun

[@mikereilly6894]

i have a shield performance center. I may have to change things up a bit with this one.

[@rednecknorthoutdoors7293]

I would also like to see your review on the new CZ P09. Gonna be an awesome gun being optics ready now.

[@jamesphifer171]

I drive to Maryville TN every day for work straight out alcoa hwy. We did the air conditioning for their new factory where this and the new BG380 are made. Never been a Smith man, personally. But these new guns may turn me.

[@smachzman]

I have the same issue with failure to lock back on my equalizer. I also have a red dot on it. I wonder if the addition of the red dot might have something to do with it not locking back.

[@pappy3226]

I couldn’t wait for a 1000 round review so I picked one up and a vortex ccw defender. First 300 rounds no problem love it so far

[@rowangears]

How does it compare to a standard shield plus?