New School Climber VS Old School Trad Route

[@climbermacleod]

"Like bouldering, but with more excitement." Exactly. Great video guys.

[@hotbeefo]

How does Dave not have a tick on KZbin. I'm building my way to HVS but I doubt I'll do Masters edge anytime soon!

[@fredscratchet1355]

@@hotbeefo I was climbing in the 60's and 70's (I'm 72 now) My hardest lead was Christmas Curry at Tremadoc after Christmas dinner in the Padarn Hotel Llanberis and a little bit of wine with a dear friend who is no longer with us. We topped out just as the sun was going down and it was bloody freezing, needless to say we were the only ones on the cliff haha. We didn't take ourselves too seriously in those days!

[@hotbeefo]

@@fredscratchet1355 sounds like a great day!

[@averageboulderer]

Like bouldering, but with more chance of cracking your skull open. Plastic pullers like me should stay away from real climbing.

[@nathanrice7352]

@@averageboulderer Nah, we just need to treat it with respect and ease into it.

[@tristonloux966]

Massive respect to take a fall like that and go back up. You’re a beast Louis

[@TuvofLuv]

I'd have been asking for another separate session 😂

[@owen9535]

I’d have been asking for extra undies

[@BetaBreaker]

Beast!!!

[@HardIsEasy]

Started watching... "I need to do some more trad". 16mins in... "naaah I'm ok" :D

[@kilianhzh]

Do a video on helmets please :)

[@HardIsEasy]

@@kilianhzh Yeap, already filmed some of the footage on that... so coming at some nearish future ;)

[@kilianhzh]

@@HardIsEasy thanks

[@rotamrofsnart]

I like how a lot of climbing KZbinrs watch each other's videos and are excited about them.

[@cornball1111]

🤣 lmao!

[@largeformatlandscape]

I think Neil was scared too…. Fantastic work Louis, utter respect for the mind control needed to do this

[@seanshang11]

Massive runout from what I can see

[@fredscratchet1355]

Yes I think he was getting a bit worried.

[@MindSurf248]

Yer definitely, I think it probably occurred to him during those first falls that Louis didn't have enough experience with trad to know how much run out he had. Especially when he clicked into his bouldering mindset.

[@George_Montagu]

Fucking hell dude. That was petrifying just to watch. Cannot believe the bravery on show here, particularly after the upsidedown fall. That was insane. Mad respect.

[@KubaClimbsRocks]

How am I only seeing this now?! Crazy how Louis went from being very nervous on a well-protected E1 to taking whips on such a notorious classic...awesome effort, loved the video :)

[@justineichler1510]

hands down one of the best short climbing videos out there. instant classic. nail biter. film maker captured the intensity and emotion brilliantly. well done all of you!

[@ryanpenny8272]

This series has been so good. Love how you’ve both been scared and out of your comfort zones and how the other one has been able to teach you through the process. Hope you guys make more of these

[@liama23]

"Oh god, an actual hold" That discribes outside climbing very well ^^

[@johnhf9]

More videos showing Neil's trad climbing knowledge please!

[@jnick5358]

His Masterclass series is really good.

[@nickbell6435]

Unbelievable mental strength to carry on like that, even with Neil saying "he'll be pretty close to the ground" having taken those falls!

[@jacobcook6625]

Neil Gresham is an absolute master. Please can we have more content with this legend!!!!!!!

[@CatalystClimbing]

We absolutely agree!

[@Intermernet]

As someone from the old school, I can say that a ground up ascent of Master's Edge is an incredible achievement for someone without a A LOT of trad experience. Massive respect mate. Also, couldn't have picked a better partner to do it with! Neil is grit royalty, and obviously really cared about you doing the line safely, but also pushing your limits. Nice work!

[@kingsindian8948]

Nice one Louis! An excellent companion video to the one you guys did indoors on dynamic boulder moves. Really respect the openness and honesty of both these amazing climbers as they acknowledge their own limitations and fears when stepping out of their comfort zones. No big egos here, which is not always the case with climbing clips on KZbin. Respect!

[@apoorvpro]

Love the genuine hugs in the end. Amazing effort, you both are such legends

[@dannygrout92]

I really like how genuine Louis is with his appreciation of Neil's help, you can see how much he values that experience!

[@gawth]

“What now? Just up?” Classic. Amazing achievement. Will you be back for more trad?

[@nicolasduguay4]

We all need a Neil Gresham to get into trad climbing! He is a confidence booster, he is a great ressource, so much generosity in his teachings, cheers!

[@davefoster5911]

Such a great video. Love the way Louis couldn’t stop hugging Neil at the end. Sums up Trad perfectly… the heady mix of adrenaline-sense of achievement-I’m still alive that’s hard find anywhere else. Great work guys.

[@MP-bx3uj]

I quite literally screamed and bit my pillow at that big fall. My god. I'm so impressed that you dug in and finished it. Congratulations on that achievement!

[@cameronclimbs]

Such a good effort Louis!! Well done! Hopefully videos like this convince a few more young people to get into trad. I boulder and trad climb and rarely see people my age out trad climbing. Bouldering is sick, but you cant beat the excitement and mental challenge of a great trad route!

[@sgt_timtam8658]

Most of us teens can't afford trad climbing 😥. looks fun but the gear is so expensive while bouldering is so much cheaper

[@cameronclimbs]

@@sgt_timtam8658 yeah that’s true the gear can be really expensive when you first start! A trad rack will last you a really long time though if you look after it, Boulder mats and shoes need replacing quite often. Can always find a mate with all the gear and use theirs haha

[@jingshelpmaboab]

@@sgt_timtam8658 You could always do what my mates do and acquire your partner’s gear, one bit at a time…😂

[@samsonite813ify]

All I want to do is trad climb honestly, the only down side is finding seconds to climb as often as you want to once you get the gear

[@alexwood3459]

​@@sgt_timtam8658 I agree. I will say I find it really sad that there isn't more of a sport climbing culture in the UK- moving here from Australia with 3 sport crags within a 10k radius (and that being the norm- maybe a 20k radius for most of the population centres of Aus) made it so easy to go outdoor, just buy a rope and some draws. I haven't been outdoor in forever here and I'm devastated about it- you always need to know someone and go way out of your way, it's at least a whole day trip rather than something I can do after work so even if I had any connected person around I wouldn't have the time. There's so much good rock but such a purest anti-sport mentality means I'll probably never climb outdoor in the UK. Moving to Europe soon and hoping it's a bit better. Hopefully one day I won't be moving somewhere cause that's the only job I can get and will just be able to pick a place I want to live (near climbing) and get a job there. I just miss living in a major city and having outdoor climbing everywhere.

[@atl663]

Absolutely fantastic video. Two stellar guys and a camerawoman. The confidence the belayer Neil had was really helpful/influential on Louis and Louis’ attitude and working through discomfort safely was inspiring!!

[@CatalystClimbing]

Absolutely awesome crew isnt it!

[@daemonicxi91]

Got sweaty palms just watching this but damn cracking effort good job Louis! Really fun video massively enjoyed this content! Cant wait to see more vids thankyou!

[@GrantTyrer79]

Been waiting for this having seen that fall on Insta. Massive respect for getting back on after that, I think most humans would have walked away at that point.

[@stanleygardiner1780]

This this fantastic content, I don’t normally comment but that was truly a great effort, well done 👍

[@alienfish8396]

It meant a lot to you because you gave your all to it to succeed. Respect geezer.

[@CatalystClimbing]

Thank you!

[@Rycamcam]

It's really inspiring to see Louis stepping out of his comfort zone. Way to push past the fear!

[@tylerkim01]

incredibly raw and emotional video. this inspires me, an indoor boulderer, to try trad routes!!!

[@claireayling8927]

This is actually insane. Went into this video assuming Louis was gonna top rope it first. Holy shit. I feel like Neil got the easy end of this deal. Really entertaining to watch though! Super cool to see two top-level climbers pushing their comfort zones.

[@TheAxelWal]

Jesus Louis, when you went for the jug with a scream I literally got cold shivers. Amazing climb and really good video composition!

[@peterhammer6915]

one of the best climbing videos I have ever seen. Incredible with all the falls.

[@BrunoAxhausen]

This is already one of my favourite climbing clips ever!! Love Louis‘ approach and courage to go this far out of his comfort zone and Neil‘s confidence is so inspiring to witness!! Been lucky enough to be on the receiving end of Neil‘s encouragements and it does add a number grade to your climbing hearing him say that you can do something 💪🏻

[@ryanmcquade5294]

So wild how how much the disciplines differ, time to build up that trad endurance! Great work!

[@Coolcmsc]

Never led to E7: respect! Little point, well, a massive one really, this vid shows many aspects of being safe, one of which was the demo of the importance of your second wearing a helmet (hard to hold the rope if the lead knocks you out with a rock, or in this case their head!).

[@indigowolf288]

Great job Louis, Neil and the team shooting the video. Scary amount of mind control from both you climbing and Neil to keep his composure after those sore falls!

[@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog]

Dude, huge cajones Louis!!! My palms were sweating for you!!! Incredible job man✌🏽😃✌🏽

[@lemmingsoutside]

What a champ, great video and such sweet whips! The topout looked scary af!

[@thebaconsnake]

One of the most thrilling climbing videos I've seen. Fantastic effort, Louis.

[@wereinmusic]

Louis' stock went trought the roof after that epic fall. Neil's teaching is on point and very reassuring. Great content you guys.

[@epicfudge9817]

Awsome video. As someone who's slowly getting into trad, and still struggles with the fear of it, this video was really Inspirational. I wanna see more of you and Neil do trad climbing, and I want to see your progression. I think it would be awesome.

[@bigmountaingoat8401]

Total commitment, total trust. Neil showing the way, ground up experience. Louis you are a master of the craft!

[@RFrecka]

I found myself saying "Let's go Louis,!" out loud at my screen several times. The sign of an an incredible film. Truly gripping, I'm stoked you chose to share this experience!

[@nicranner6537]

Really enjoying these collaborations, id like to see this series continue , thank you

[@jimmyflipper8093]

Great video guys. Good to see Louis doing something outside of his comfort zone. Really great effort and a great collaboration with Neil. Keep up the good work guys 🤟🙂👍

[@davidalvarezgarcia3784]

this was amazing

[@robcarlin2881]

That was an awesome video on all levels, you should be proud of yourself Louis! A memory to cherish and draw on and you're probably still buzzing from the experience 🙂

[@CatalystClimbing]

Thank you Rob!

[@danwallis1984]

That was fantastic Louis! I loved your sheer joy at completing it. Hugs all around. Great coaching from Neil to push you to do it.

[@MmePlastikbaum]

Loving the very real and honest emotions. All three of you; amazing job creating a gripping short film and going above an beyond!

[@curtiss4981]

Wow! What an amazing effort Louis, great to see a boulderer go to trad, something I would love to try. Great effort!!

[@gritmasterbull]

Congrats, awesome effort. Enjoyed watching this

[@alejandrodelpaso5582]

What a fantastic duo!! More of these videos please !!

[@martinhughes-games8541]

Started off thinking who is this geek?! by the end I realised he is massively brave. How could he have gone again and again? then made that massive move at the top. I could hardly breathe. Raw and so real. Brilliant short video.

[@christopherkwasny5333]

Absolutely brilliant! Beautiful episode beautiful to see

[@audiojck1]

Really cool video. Inspiring to see you pushing your boundaries this much. Also psyched to do some trad Climbing again soon.

[@BarlowKidd]

Fair play to you Louis. That looked terrifying. I’ve only ever done bouldering and the thought of trad climbing is insane. Your an inspiration mate. Takes a big set of balls to do something like that. And that fall!! Jeeeez

[@owenwilliams9582]

What an achievement to do Master Edge, so much history, and a fantastic tick. Da Iwan ti.

[@I_am_Spartacus]

Fantastic video.. really enjoyed this one. Neil's calmness and Louie's energy really comes through, and it's great to see Louie push himself and get out of his comfort zone... I wish he'd do this more!

[@iirokorhonen6053]

Wonderful climbing story whithout heroism and egoism. Very touching.

[@tobysegar]

Gnarly dude!! Incredible effort

[@DemolitionTurtle]

Honestly loved this video, great job Louis and Neil. The fact that you didn't just flash everything and did take some falls made it really relatable to watch. I'm also a boulderer with very little trad experience and would love to try getting into trad after this. Would love to have seen some more details of the gear etc. (e.g. how _did_ you get down) but obviously time permitting in a KZbin video - maybe for the next trad adventure!

[@bendycard]

Huge respect Louis, I could see what it meant to you with all the hugs for Neil 😁👏

[@trevoredensor7114]

Brilliant effort Louis...showing great enthusiasm and endeavour to succeed...a fine example to us all 👍👍and great coaching and encouragement from Neil !!!

[@bloodink9508]

More of this please. By all means rewind, but this was so awesome to see. Just did my first Trad lead, sure as sh*t wasn’t an e7, but that rush. I understand that rush.

[@simonkirby4056]

Really enjoyed this, great stuff. More Trad.

[@ComputerManDanMiller]

What a gorgeous day for it. Awesome video, you and Neil are so wholesome!

[@Boogieforme]

That happy shout Neil did when louis made the shitty part actually gave me chills! Great video

[@CatalystClimbing]

Thank you!!

[@LoveAndClimbing]

I really hope to see more trad from you Louis! That was incredible to watch.

[@markshazdrone]

Never tried the route but what a route to ground up. Good to see people push themselves mentally.

[@guustvanuden2968]

these video series are gold sweaty hands over here, well done

[@standarddeviation1360]

bloody love louis!! this is exactly how I felt doing my first outside climb - i really love that you have similar emotions, despite being so good at climbing

[@ExtreMIX]

one of the best vids from you so far. awesome work Louis!

[@jimbojet8728]

Such determination, great to see. A well achieved climb and thank you for sharing it.

[@adamondrasbigtoe]

Such a good vid holy moly. Louis and Neil are some God damn gems.

[@soggybottom3463]

Well done guys, and, uh, hi everyone. Can't believe how much this stuff still affects me..it's been 30 years...done lot's of stuff since but...fabulous stuff boys, pint well earned.

[@hellsangel2005]

Man that was a beautiful experience. You answered most of my climbing questions

[@ElliotLukeB]

An excellent video. I hope to see more trad from Louis!

[@Doctor_Yuri]

Such an amazing video!! This is something we all spray about, whether boulderers can do trad routes, and this was beautifully done. Good ethics, big but safe falls, thin gear. Full stars!

[@aj9436]

Bloody hell! I would’ve been crying my eyes out!! Your so brave!!

[@Ellieways]

Had my first day of climbing yesterday and how Louis acts at the end is basically the way I was the entire time. 😆😅😁

[@MrJimtimslim]

I cant imagine being that good at climbing and have done so little trad. Like hardly any. I couldn't dream of getting on this route and spent my life on trad. Fair play

[@jonathanmargalioth2736]

Amazing video!!! I was so impressed by you not giving up after taking those whippers

[@silverblaze713]

The uninitiated among us would actually like to know how you did get down. Fantastic climbing, belaying and filming. Thanks to everyone involved!

[@fredscratchet1355]

Shit that was incredible. What a lead, kudos Louis that was brilliant mate! And thanks Neil for getting him there.

[@alexanderatkin7762]

Best climbing video I have seen in a long time. Stoke that fire!

[@camilocarrillo2132]

There is something transformative about this zone, the one that push yourself to the limit, it doesn't matter the grade. When you see Louis hugging Neil as his savior from certain death or Anna crying at the top of the send, that's why we do it.

[@Exi01]

That was tremendous, big hugs all round!

[@Asopotaan]

Really enjoyed this one! Great job Louis!

[@zebbond2752]

This got me so psyched for trad shtill. Nice send Louis

[@atmartin36]

That upper section, from like his dyno on up, is free solo at that point. Insane!

[@alexgalays910]

wow, that was emotionnal. As a 100% boulderer, this was scary as hell.

[@ketapan6692]

Just an amazing Performance! No more words...

[@lyangelo]

Such a good effort Louis and such a good episode guys! Hats off!

[@caileanharker]

Definitely up there with the best KZbin climbing videos I’ve watched. Good work team! 💪

[@leegosling]

Remember this being put up… good work.

[@cameronnewby6510]

What an effort nice one Louie!!

[@usefulcoach]

This was a fantastic watch. Good job Louis, and Neil.

[@edwinbarker7763]

Big ups Louis!! great climbing and great coaching from Neil too! Rl enjoyed the vid

[@andreasvalen8802]

Oh baby give me more of this louis/neil content!

[@poplok22]

Brilliant video and great teamwork! I was most nervous when you reached the jugs at the top, knowing how far above the gear you were.

[@aries_9130]

That was absolutely brilliant. I don't know if I would have been able to get up another time after taking that upside down fall.