NEW Sonic X Shadow Generations Gameplay Looks AWESOME

[@ThisisTheUltimate]

I disagree with the comment about the person playing not being very good, that gameplay is MUCH different than the one from Frontiers and the one from Space Colony ARK we had back then He may not play like the Sonic Fans who are above the avarage casual player, but he's definetly playing really well, taking alternate paths like the ones by stomping on the ropes, boosting a lot more than the previous gameplays from SxSG and Frontiers, using Doom Blast and Chaos Control (both with the Chaos Control "Light Speed Dash" and freeze time ability) to show secret paths and collectables, using Chaos Spear and Doom Spear at the right time in the right enemies, etc. He's playing actually quite well

[@DavidBlaiseSGaela]

He isnt really blasting through the stage more like showcasing it which i like like his trying to showcase the stage and not just straight up speed running it

[@ArynWellspring]

Yeah that was a weird comment, the player clearly has the entire stage memorized and doesn’t waste any steps or make any awkward mistakes

[@somethingelse134]

This comment is speaking fax, he don't wanna spoil everything.

[@midnighttheumbreon]

I 100% completely agree with you on that

[@With2Ls]

Today was the worst day they could’ve chose to drop this all the sonic fans are talking about the movie trailer

[@LynxWind]

Yeah, but…yeah I can’t defend them. You’re right, this was a bad day for them to do this.

[@epicgamner1139]

i dont really think they dropped it, its more of just a new demo theyre letting people at gamescom play and now the footage is getting out. Its not like a trailer or anything its just new gameplay that appeals to people like us who were gonna care about combing through it no matter what day it was lol

[@LynxWind]

@@epicgamner1139 That could be the case. Just unlucky it was the same day a the Sonic Movie 3 trailer no one would shut up about.

[@lks19]

Dunno. I don't like what they're doing with the movie. At least the game is looking OK. Now we just need a demo so I can take my own conclusions.

[@truepowersichigo1952]

​@@lks19 also the same, i will look the movie but Shadow Generations looks more hyping to me

[@TerraBlue_451]

I feel the need to bring attention to the shortcut at 5:15, because I love it. You have to: 1. Get the chaos capsule 2. Use chaos control to stop the black glider thing 3. Use doom blast to warp up to a higher platform, this is the only way to get up there 4. Kill the enemies to fill chaos gauge again And then you skip like half the surf section with a chaos rail as a reward.

[@TheSultan1470]

No one: Sonic game: (here you go, fast forward to the end credits)

[@sometf2player752]

9:58 metal overlord speaks mentioning how he has chaos control as well so he isn't affected by shadows chaos control

[@SonicTheHedgehogX15]

SONIC MOVIE 3 IS PEAKING WITH ITS TRAILER, SXSG IS GETTING EVEN BETTER

[@knowingjordankid]

To has been a crazy Sonic day with the Sonic movie 3 trailer and now Sonic X Shadow Gens gameplay.

[@Luiki491]

I think the way the Mach Speed Section from Kingdom Valley looks is fine, in fact, I like the way it looks, since Shadow's original Kingdom Valley didn't even had that section, that's something Shadow didn't even went through, but people really wanted to see it, so it's just like a reminder, a nod to those people who wanted that section, but without taking the idea from the level, showing the section in a more simplified way, no strong rain, quite small, short, etc. Of course, I would've loved to see it giant, open, with giant waves on both sides, a storm with lightning, Shadow running at full speed dodging falling debris, but I'm not mad at all by how it looks (and pls don't take this as if I'm just accepting mediocrity and don't like complains because I would just accept anything SEGA gives us, definetly have my critisisms regarding everything Sonic-related is just that I genuinely really think the section looks good the way it is)

[@Terminal_Apotos]

So basically Sonic Team said “We know what you want but we’re not gonna give it to you, instead we’ll only kinda reference it lol.”

[@Luiki491]

​@@Terminal_Apotosno, it's not just a reference because it's quite literally RIGHT THERE, the section still is in fact in the game

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@Luiki491 Oh my bad I’ll just use your words then. A “reminder, a nod to those people who wanted that section, but without taking the idea from the level, showing the section in a more simplified way, no strong rain, quite small, short, etc.” Sure sounds like a reference to me.

[@lambousginiguccigod2007]

@@Terminal_Apotosit wasn’t even that good in 06 LOL. This could of been better, but at-least its more playable.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@lambousginiguccigod2007 It WAS playable in 06, this just takes away 90% of its identity.

[@richardwood2001]

i understand that you are frustrated that the gameplay has a lot of jump cuts throughout the video you reacted to, but you need to understand that certain people do not want to be spoiled before the full game comes out, especially that they have showed enough to get me exited, at least its not forces like, that's all that matters

[@sometf2player752]

11:20 i dont know if you noticed but metal overlord was speaking dialogue and commenting on shadows moves

[@Dynosaurus_rex]

i personally don't mind that last part of kingdom valley because its like the last 20 seconds of an otherwise great level. so i honestly see no point in complaining

[@seematahir5970]

If something could be good, why shouldn't it be? Gens took the mach speed section from Crisis City and gave it an awesome twist with just as much intensity as the original. Shadow Gens looks so watered down even just compared to that

[@Dynosaurus_rex]

@@seematahir5970 I’m not saying it shouldn’t be good. It is a bit disappointing but it’s not like a turn off or anything since it is the last few seconds of the level. It could definitely could be cooler though

[@JuliRocket]

People were saying that it looks like they reused the network terminal assets and recolored them to look like final fortress, not that it WAS network terminal

[@SFproductions1]

no people were saying it was network terminal

[@the_oc_maniac8972]

I remember people saying that it was Spaceport, not Network Terminal.

[@JuliRocket]

@@SFproductions1 I watched a video and they were talking about how they recolored the assets. I guess not everyone could see that.

[@KyndlingStoneCB]

Metal Overlord looks like a lot of fun. Im excited for that. And Kingdom valley looks fantastic and looks like a ton of fun.

[@AndrewR-y5u]

Love that shadow used chaos control and then punches the rock and then it hits back at metal overlord

[@DASH596]

*Actual good gameplay video* "They are not really good at playing the game" ... Boii what?

[@TheSultan1470]

lol the game plays itself, nothing to be good at

[@chrange9714]

​@@TheSultan1470 You're funny, it's like your eyes don't work

[@sonicdml4175]

About the end of Kingdom Valley, you can literally see several alternative pathways during it. Also pillars just kind of being there is probably the most normal thing to see in a Sonic game. And about Metal Overlord, Egg Dragoon in Gens played like that and that was probably the best boss in the game.

[@alanemocab3465]

2:41 Venom: SURF THE WEB!

[@iwuvtrees9568]

I guess SF is just gonna ignore the original water section was also a straight line with pillars in your way but its all good.

[@SFproductions1]

1. it was way faster 2. it wasnt just a straight line as you also ran on the water 3. it was way longer 4. the pillars werent just slapped on there they were a part of the structure.

[@themenacingsloth]

​@@SFproductions1 It was longer.......unfortunately not for the right reasons

[@SFproductions1]

Okay sure but the superior P 06 remake still lasted longer

[@themenacingsloth]

@@SFproductions1 In all fairness, not countin' '06's lack of character speed or Silver's gameplay segment, the level as a whole already looks like it's as long as the OG from beginning to end, & that's without considerin' the various paths. This final part is pretty much just the equivalent to the end of the SG Roofton Run level except this is more interactive but lacks the laser robot. There's no need to tack on an extra minute unnecessarily. There's levels that are too short like Forces & levels that can overstay their welcome like Heroes. This level's well balanced, designed & open as is.

[@glacierwolf2155]

The most promising thing that I see in the Kingdom Valley gameplay is not just the length, but also a lot of alternate paths and _more interactive elements._ The major complaints from Forces and Frontiers has been addressed. If most levels in this game will be like Kingdom Valley, then it will be amazing.

[@AdamSelvig]

The hype for shadow is getting better

[@M64bros]

I'm guessing you absolutely enjoyed the Sonic the hedgehog 3 trailer!

[@Slimeonian]

Sonic Unleashed Rooftop Run, Straight path with quick step parts: the single most iconic part of the stage Shadow Gen’s Kingdom Valley, Straight path with quick step parts: kinda disappointing

[@Terminal_Apotos]

You’re ignoring the context of this trying to replicate the original version which is way better.

[@MinionProductions1]

instantly playing the game once it releases gonna wake up at 12 AM

[@AubreyTheKing]

I'm glad they didn't show the end of Kingdom Valley or anything. Mephiles "could" be the boss for that stage. I don't wanna know! I rather play the actual game myself and be surprised! Still, good gameplay. It keeps getting better and better!

[@jar_Jade]

I just pre-ordered it today, can’t wait to play this after a long day of school💪

[@keshaunfarr6400]

I think black doom warp thing is probably exclusive to Space Colony Ark Act 1 and no other act one but thats my opinon or thought process

[@Vantoxify]

I agree with Kingdom Valley's ending not being as hype as the original. It would've been cool to see Shadow maybe use Doom Surf and go from the left waterfall to the right

[@WhatISawJuly7th]

Yeah, Sonic literally runs sideways on the water with the music flourishing and the visual of rainbows. Shadow's version is so neutered in comparison.

[@ctpp64]

hopefully act 2 brings us the goods

[@chrange9714]

@@WhatISawJuly7th There is no visual of rainbows and Sonic runs on a waterfall twice. It's cool, but it ain't all that. In fact Shadow's section is very much the same in many aspects, he just doesn't run on a waterfall.

[@troxic4176]

Nobody's talking about this, but Sonic Team has finally learned how to integrate the terrain with the level design. In Forces and Frontiers, there are a bunch of platforms and boxes

[@codesavei9613]

They already knew that in Unleashed and Gens. Shadow Gens still doesn’t look as good in the integration.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@troxic4176 It’s better than Frontiers and Forces but still not on the level of Generations, Colors, or Unleashed. Certain sections still have that “Mario Maker” look.

[@extrawolf3864]

@@Terminal_Apotos i would argue that Colors also had a problem with integration, some levels had a really blocky level design

[@dragnjames2190]

Classic Sonic's segments of Generations levels did this too. Let's not point the finger entirely at Shadow Gens. A bunch of levels in Classic Generations after the Classic era felt kind of blocky in retrospect. Classic Seaside Hill. Classic Rooftop Run ( atleast at the beginning and during the bell tower interior. ) Classic Planet Wisp.

[@chrange9714]

​@@Terminal_Apotos It is though, what's really funny is you talk as if you're some expert level designer when you're a random dude on YT. These are real level designers and nothing about it feels like "Mario Maker" in any areas. It's designed just how the levels in the Adventure games were yet I don't see you criticizing them for that. Funny.

[@martinatorgames3691]

It looks like the first act of Sonic Stadium is going to last around 7 MINS!!!!!!

[@midnighttheumbreon]

honestly if the short mach speed section at the end of the level is the only ok part of it then damn I'm not worried about these levels cause genuinely besides that they have been cooking HARD with these levels Space Colony was also really good! :D

[@jordanelliott0408]

This boss reminds me a lot of the egg dragoon in Generations, I looks awesome😮‍💨

[@thealandude9146]

6:15 i feel like this part is just too short which make sense the original is a lot longer and flatter(except the wall run section) for the mach speed but maybe they could just extend it using like a black doom variant of the egg chaser as a longer quickstep section instead of just a short one, maybe not exactly like them shooting lasers on a lane but something akin to the quickstep dodging idea

[@justice8718]

It feels like the cooling phase of the stage that’s supposed to link into the Metal Sonic fight.

[@mrconga6701]

This and The first Sonic the hedgehog movie 3 trailer Oh yeah it's all coming together

[@IconPNG]

I think it is a remix of What I'm Made Of! Guitars seem different, Johnny's voice is pretty much the same tho, no new mixing. Also, hoping a 3rd Bossfight against Knight or Black Doom, and 3 or 4 rival fights, Sonic, Emerl, Mephiles and Infinite And this may be a stretch, but actually revamping cinematics, retconning Sonic's timeline with the Sonic Generations remaster, and adding a Lost World + Forces + Frontiers levels could be awesome. We could even see events from the comics or Sonic Prime as bosses. Imagine a rival fight against Nine, or a Surge one. Or we could get a bossfight against Supreme, the Giant Powered Zavok from IDW or even a Nightmare Eggman from Sonic Dream Team. And you could even add levels for classic Sonic, with a Mania + Superstars + some other classic game, even Sonic 4. And have a Trip or Fang rival fight, and a bossfight against the Heavy King. The potential of this game is absolutely endless.

[@justsem1368]

I just realised why Metal Overlord fight is on water... Final Fortress original planned to be underwater base

[@SFproductions1]

it was confirmed that iits the ruins of egg fleet but good observation

[@ctpp64]

I dont think every Act 1 will have a black doom section where he brings you to the city. there were several sources that played the full stage of kingdom valley and none of em mentioned that, GVG even said that there weren't as many cutscene cinematics as space colony ark and it was mostly gameplay. i do think there still will be more since that one bullet station image showed the black doom chase, but not here probably

[@OrangeAintEvenAColor]

This AND the movie trailer damn we are eating good today 🗣‼️‼️👏👏👏

[@socheata643]

Dang, I can’t wait!

[@Theorangebuffoon7428]

Man, that Metal Overlord boss fight looks a bit too automated for my taste. And considering the lackluster rival battle against Metal Sonic in the original, I just hope that it has a lot more meat to it. That way, my boy can be redeemed

[@chrange9714]

Nothing about it is automated accept that you're always moving wtf is this comment. "Looks too automated for my taste!" guess you hate the base game Egg Dragoon fight then and Metal Sonic's rival battle was not lackluster at all. If watching this fight doesn't clearly show how much meat there is to this, then there's a problem with you not recognizing it. Not the game.

[@Theorangebuffoon7428]

@chrange9714 *Sigh* No no. You got a point. And clearly, 'automated' wasn't the right word. It just looks a bit basic and bland. And considering Metal Sonic is my favorite character, I may have a bit of a bias here, I'll admit.

[@chrange9714]

@@Theorangebuffoon7428 It has 10x more spectacle and other stuff going on in it than the original Metal Overlord fight in Heroes so how in the heck does this look "a bit bland and basic?"

[@Theorangebuffoon7428]

@@chrange9714 Spectle? Yes? Gameplay is what I'm talking about

[@chrange9714]

@@Theorangebuffoon7428 And like I just said, it has 10x more gameplay and stuff going on in it than the original Metal Overlord boss in Heroes. It is a massive upgrade with a ton of substance yet you call it "a bit bland and basic," yeah no.

[@cloroxbleachchocolate_synchron]

the one thing a lot of people like to forget that the metal overlord fight from Sonic heroes was on rails as well

[@supersaiyanfox9190]

At least the last part of the Kingdom Valley level is playable. It’s not a torturously unplayable Mach speed section.

[@WhatISawJuly7th]

I'd rather have janky and frustrating while still being memorable than boring and uninspired.

[@justice8718]

The ending of Kingdom Valley might be used for the beginning of Act 2.

[@supersaiyanfox9190]

@@WhatISawJuly7th Sonic 06 fans are masochists. Just going to say that. Clementj642’s multiple-part review of Sonic 06 makes Sonic 06 objectively a terrible game. It isn’t solely bad because of glitches. It’s bad because it’s just terribly designed. The characters are insufferably slow and not fun to play, and the levels are super long and boring as well. I’d rather play any level from SA1 and SA2 over all of the levels from 06, and I’m making that comparison because Sonic 06 is SA3 minus a Chao Garden. It’s why I’ll never understand how Sonic fans today will hate Sonic Forces but defend Sonic 06. Both games have dark stories that are poorly executed, both games have mostly boring, uninspired levels (most of 06’s gameplay, especially on Shadow and Silver’s side, is just killing waves of enemies with giant health bars to progress, and you don’t have a huge arsenal of moves, unlike the Werehog from Unleashed), and both games have botched formulas from previous games (Forces does the boost formula wrong, and 06 does the Adventure formula horribly wrong). What makes 06 a hundred times worse than Forces though are the parts that make the game not only boring but also rage-inducing and unplayable, like the Mach speed sections, the snowboarding sections, the Silver boss fight, the crumbling towers section, and the ball puzzle.

[@supersaiyanfox9190]

@@WhatISawJuly7th Sonic 06 fans must love to suffer. It’s their pleasure. Clementj642’s multiple-part review of Sonic 06 makes Sonic 06 objectively a terrible game. It isn’t solely bad because of glitches. It’s bad because it’s just terribly designed. The characters are insufferably slow and not fun to play, and the levels are super long and boring as well. I’d rather play any level from SA1 and SA2 over all of the levels from 06, and I’m making that comparison because Sonic 06 is SA3 minus a Chao Garden. It’s why I’ll never understand how Sonic fans today will hate Sonic Forces but defend Sonic 06. Both games have dark stories that are poorly executed, both games have mostly boring, uninspired levels (most of 06’s gameplay, especially on Shadow and Silver’s side, is just killing waves of enemies with giant health bars to progress, and you don’t have a huge arsenal of moves, unlike the Werehog from Unleashed), and both games have botched formulas from previous games (Forces does the boost formula wrong, and 06 does the Adventure formula horribly wrong). What makes 06 a hundred times worse than Forces though are the parts that make the game not only boring but also rage-inducing and unplayable, like the Mach speed sections, the snowboarding sections, the Silver boss fight, the crumbling towers section, and the ball puzzle.

[@supersaiyanfox9190]

@@WhatISawJuly7th Sonic 06 fans must love to suffer. It’s their pleasure. Clementj642’s multiple-part review of Sonic 06 makes Sonic 06 objectively a terrible game. It isn’t solely bad because of glitches. It’s bad because it’s just terribly designed. The characters are insufferably slow and not fun to play, and the levels are super long and boring as well. I’d rather play any level from SA1 and SA2 over all of the levels from 06, and I’m making that comparison because Sonic 06 is SA3 minus a Chao Garden. It’s why I’ll never understand how Sonic fans today will hate Sonic Forces but defend Sonic 06. Both games have dark stories that are poorly executed, both games have mostly boring, uninspired levels (most of 06’s gameplay, especially on Shadow and Silver’s side, is just killing waves of enemies with giant health bars to progress, and you don’t have a huge arsenal of moves, unlike the Werehog from Unleashed), and both games have botched formulas from previous games (Forces does the boost formula wrong, and 06 does the Adventure formula horribly wrong). What makes 06 a hundred times worse than Forces though are the parts that make the game not only boring but also rage-inducing and unplayable, like the Mach speed sections, the snowboarding sections, the Silver boss fight, the crumbling towers section, and the ball puzzle.

[@theprosonicgamer2011]

I'm so excited for this game!

[@Mecha_Madness]

It honestly would’ve been cool if Shadow used his wings to fight Metal Overlord

[@PrimalDragon1740]

I think they're going to do that with Black/Devil Doom

[@you-and-i-dol]

I don't think he got his wings yet, how I think of this is that Colony Ark First ability: doom spear Biolizard Rail Canyon Boss fight Second ability: Doom surf Kingdom Valley Metal overload (What I'm saying is I think he didn't get it yet)

[@RaiginAnimator]

You should watch the good vibes gaming version of Kingdom valley the player is really good.

[@AdrielEsparzaFlores]

I think that was a demo because of the chaos spear not being boom themed

[@TKize777]

super hyped but i was questioning the Chaos Island level design too. The Metal Overlord fight is Final Fortress like you said, they're being silly saying it was Network Terminal. Wait... they changed Metal Overlords voice D:??

[@justice8718]

Metal Overlord is played by the current Sonic like he is in the originally game. Because he is a Sonic clone.

[@RainingBeanz]

TODAYS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER

[@jamesdeanrodriguez1791]

Please tell if there's a Sonic Movie 3 video on the way

[@epicgamner1139]

suprise suprise, the good game keeps on looking good we love to see it

[@tardissins7512]

The rocks are looking good

[@ZukoPrince]

These guys so traumatized by Forces, it's hilarious. There may be the greatest level with different paths and no no automation, and then they see straight line at the end and be like "yep, my day is ruined now"

[@RatchetClankFan112]

I’m excited for the game & the film

[@SlowMlk1225]

56 till the deluxe edition drops I can’t wait

[@KEYAHLOUATTARA]

I feel like i should play sonic gen before shadow gen

[@blackheartaesthetic4432]

I mean shoot wasn’t the Mach speed section of Kingdom Valley just a straight line super fast rush to the goal ring? 😅besides the part where you jump from wall to wall with the qte’s

[@SFproductions1]

And you got to run on the water falls it was awesome

[@chrange9714]

​@@SFproductions1So just because you don't run on a waterfall here you act like it is so much worse. Wow that's dumb

[@SFproductions1]

And it was way faster, longer, more cinematic, with sonic jumping from pillars and shit. It was just way cooler than the slow straight line as get in Shadow gens

[@chrange9714]

@@SFproductions1"It was way faster" that was never a positive lol other than the effect looking cool, it played like dog water. All the mach speed sections did. "It was longer" it was only 24 seconds longer, you jump across a couple platforms, run on a waterfall twice, jump off debris and you're done. "More cinematic" uh how? The camera never changes angle until you jump off debris which it always does and lasts like 3 seconds. "With Sonic jumping from pillars" he jumps from debris which he does in almost every mach speed section for again less than 3 seconds, stop over hyping this. It was barely any cooler than it is in Shadow Gens, the only thing really cool about it was running on a waterfall and the setting. And this game retains the setting but actually has the section be playable. "Slow straight line?" Did you even watch the gameplay, it is far from a straight line with a ton of other branching paths to take. You're tweaking.

[@FanicTheHedgehogYT]

Sonic Movie 3 is gonna be Okay I think good I am really getting depressed to be a Sonic fan Sonic Gets Hated by Everyone

[@benjoman8252]

The doom abilities are like the vehicle segments from previous games shadow was in. Except these have been better implemented and look like they control better. The game feels like a compliation of all of shadows gameplay styles

[@JoshuaRodroguez-hz5yb]

Shadow is just a reskin of sonic

[@CanterlotCrusader]

Bro this one level is better than the entirety of Sonic Forces. Not saying much I know, but it's showing me we're on the right path. My biggest fear is if the actual release is somehow buggy, cuz that was super annoying in Frontiers with bugs and pop in, but I hope the more condensed levels made it easier to manage those issues. Honestly, this is the direction I would like the series to persue. The open world nature of Frontiers was neat, but the size clearly had drawbacks as they just threw in random rails everywhere. Having a wider emphasis in the level design allows us to keep the fast feeling while also keeping that exploration element, but not so bloated that it loses direction. If anyone has seen the prototype version of Windy Valley from Sa1, that is what the series should have been going for imo vs the long, but narrow hallways of the precious boost games, as it limits level design and abilities. Like that last section he mentioned in the video with the water is EXACTLY what they had been doing in boost games, just narrow hallways with limited 3d movement. Yeah it's fast, but the player doesn't have enough control in what happens, and it's just way too simplistic in comparison to the rest of the level we saw.

[@justice8718]

I think it’s hilarious that Sonic open world is formularized so quickly to create one for Shadow Generations. Although, I’m getting that Open Zone is supposed to be more like a Sonic Equivalent of a Mario Oddessy world and Bowser’ s Fury world. Without forcing you to play the boss fights like they’re on a a timer.

[@Dog1167]

Are you going to make a video about the trailer for sonic movie 3?

[@nexusetmiaouss]

Could be cool to have metal overlord and shadow using chaos control at the same time

[@PompeiSurvivor]

Technically they do, since he continues moving at normal speed when shadow activates chaos control as well as talking about the ability when it’s used.

[@sharonmukada]

Why didn't u do a video reacting and talking about the sonic 3 trailer

[@owendinostudios1200]

Chill, he needs time to make a video

[@SFproductions1]

nah im not gonna make one

[@calebpribyl5152]

Did you see the trailer for sonic 3? You better watch out you better not cry you better not pout I’m telling you why! SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG IS COMING TO TOWN!

[@Theorangebuffoon7428]

He sees you when you're playing. He knows when you're shooting 🎵🎵🎵

[@Fractorification]

I really like how big this map of KV is. They took into account the amount of ground you can cover with a faster character and used the space for some alternate paths. This is gonna be the stage I’m gonna have the most fun revisiting with all the options it gives you. Although if I do have to nitpick something I’d have to be the visuals. The lighting is brighter than the cloudy and drearier atmosphere of the original and the mach speed section is missing the spectacle with the lightning storm and ruining on the water walls. It’s pretty short with just a quickstep section.

[@chrange9714]

Well that last part was flat out wrong as it is darker than the original's lighting. It is even more cloudy and dreary looking than the original. You're lucky the mach speed section is here at all, Shadow shouldn't even have it. It's clearly just a reference to the end segment of Sonic's stage, it's not trying to be it or surpass it. Which wasn't even that good to begin with, yeah running on a waterfall was cool but that's about it. Everything else was just another jank speed section no one liked, here you can actually play it and there's way more to do than just quick step.

[@themenacingsloth]

Considerin' the ending to the ORIGINAL Kingdom Valley was one of the worst, if not THE worst, mach speed sections in the game, I see this as a MASSIVE improvement. The breathtaking effect it had on me was sighs & groans of anger, animosity & frustration, especially considerin' I was goin' for all S Ranks. It's honestly a shock we even got this part seein' as neither Shadow nor Silver go there

[@Terminal_Apotos]

NGL sound like a skill issue, I got used to it after a few runs and Kingdom Valley is one of the least glitchy stages in the 06.

[@themenacingsloth]

@@Terminal_Apotos Good for you. I've 100%'d the game, there's no skill issue. Just buttcheek design & rushed development

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@themenacingsloth You 100% the game and you still struggle on that section? Definitely a skill issue.

[@themenacingsloth]

@@Terminal_Apotos Yeah, 'cause the fact that Sonic forgets how to jump & instead wants to do somersaults if you hit ANYTHING in these segments is absolutely MY fault. That's like sayin' if a person dies in a game, despite fully completin' it, they're bad. I don't have to do these ballsack segments in one go for it to be no skill issue. These segments are trash, whether it takes 2 attempts or I beat 'em in 1 consistently, that opinion will never change. The most asinine part of it ALL, is that the entire level is literally pointless in Sonic & Silver's stories

[@chrange9714]

​@@Terminal_Apotos Yes insult him more, that will prove you're right acting like the original mach speed section was all that and not janky. Sarcasm btw lmao, you just continue to prove how toxic you are the more I see you around.

[@OrangeToadGamer]

Almost forgot about the gameplay after the Movie Trailer dropped 💀

[@NathanTheGameGuy]

I'm sure you've already noticed by now, but Metal Overlord speaks new lines during the battle. "Trying to use Chaos Control?! HAH! That power already belongs to ME!!" "Let's see how long you last on such unstable terrain!" "I am the king of all creation! Nobody can defeat me! Not you, not Sonic, not ANYONE!" "As if I could be challenged by an imposter like you!" I also like how he uses Chaos Control as you do, so you can't just catch up to him in an instant.

[@frickerrific2813]

It’s def sega playing. Idk why they send footage like this, I’m assuming they want it to look cinematic but nah it just sorta looks dumb.

[@chrange9714]

It does look cinematic, you people just see that if a person isn't boosting every waking moment it looks quite unquote "dumb."

[@SorryIhavenonumber]

Mephiles boss fight

[@saturnking-il4fp]

It is the year of shadow after all but still no silver );

[@TylerBR97]

7:55 dude HELL no. Speedrunning levels with a cinematic like that interrupting every act 1 would suck. I’d much rather the full level, ESPECIALLY Kingdom Valley, be the same. Would you really want to see that city area that often, or have to deal with those cutscenes mid level? I’m fine with it being in maybe 3 levels total so it doesn’t overstay its welcome

[@SFproductions1]

Well from what we've seen from the trailers, the other city areas look like actual levels and not just a straight line so yeah I wouldn't mind it

[@AmazingSonicBros]

Please pin my comment Yes, hedgehogs can technically be placed in hamster balls in real life. However, it's not recommended, as it doesn't replicate their natural environment and could potentially harm the hedgehog. Hedghogs require a certain amount of space to move around, and being confined in a small ball may cause stress and discomfort. Additionally, the rolling motion of the ball might be unnatural and unfamiliar to them. It's always best to provide a hedgehog with a suitable habitat that resembles their natural environment as closely as possible.

[@lks19]

The gameplay looks decent, but I need a playable demo ASAP.

[@Jayrewritten1993]

What if the new shadow skin that is coming out in December is the sonic movie 3 skin for shadow and sonic that will be cool .

[@best_mate456]

Imagine what knight going to be like

[@LorenzoPace3Dartist]

Water looks way better in sonic p06 sadly

[@chrange9714]

What do you care what the water looks like

[@LorenzoPace3Dartist]

@@chrange9714 Graphics in Sonic’s games has always been an important part since a huge part of the appeal of the game depends on that. This game so far has very huge problems related to graphics like the infamous yellow filter, extremely lucid surfaces even for rough wood and a lot more. Hope at least the gameplay won’t be all smoke

[@chrange9714]

@@LorenzoPace3Dartist Well that's a lie, graphics have never been what the big appeal of the games depends on. It's always been its gameplay, design, and mechanics. Haha "huge problems related to graphics?" Buddy this is the best looking Sonic game period. Absolutely nothing looks wrong with it graphically, there is zero yellow filter idk what you're looking at but you might want to see an eye doctor. Nor are the surfaces extremely lucid, rough rocks look as such and the same goes for other surfaces like wood. They look how they're supposed to in each setting, the gameplay already looks amazing and that coupled with the awesome visuals you couldn't be more factually incorrect. Nobody's playing these games to see how the water looks.

[@LorenzoPace3Dartist]

@@chrange9714 sure 👍

[@chrange9714]

@@LorenzoPace3Dartist Thanks for agreeing bud lol

[@chrange9714]

Yeesh, especially that last part with you whining about the Mach Speed Kingdom Valley bit. Goodness you people see a straight path in anything even when it has a bunch of alternate ones like that section did have and even if it's the last 20 seconds of a 5-6 minute level that is open af, y'all whine and complain about it being bland, unengaging, or whatever. Also idk why people like you think that if a certain past thing shows up that means it must be better than its original counterpart. Which Sonic 06's version of that looked cool, that's all it was otherwise it was another mach speed section nobody liked. And this also looks cool so on that alone it's matching the original but it's actually doesn't play like dog water this time lol. Guess not having Shadow run on a waterfall for a bit makes it infinitely worse despite it looking absolutely amazing with these structures surrounded by two giant waterfall walls. You're lucky that that section was even in the level as Shadow never had anything like that in 06, so it being here alone is clearly just referencing the original Kingdom Valley Sonic section. Also how is the player playing badly? They're playing great. What because they're not boosting every waking moment and actually exploring the open level which is very in line with the Adventure levels they're playing badly? No way, and the Metal Overlord boss fight looks awesome in every regard. The Egg Dragoon fight in base Gens is on rails and is one of the most praised fights in that game yet for some reason here, which is even more engaging than the base game Egg Dragoon fight, it's somehow a bad thing.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

The Level Design looks pretty good, way better than Space Colony Ark Act 1. There are legitimate branching paths now and a lot more snappy quick reaction level design, this also confirms every level will be of good length. My only complaint is that they’re still very reliant on the Homing Attack instead of Actual Platforming and there are quite a few unnecessary Dash Panel automation. Shame the Waterfall section was so subdued compared to the original. No Sideways running on Water, Jumping from ruins, or Egg Gunners Chase, instead we just got some basic Boost Level Design.

[@chrange9714]

It's funny how blatantly incorrect all of this is when there are multiple platforming sections not relying on the homing attack and there's absolutely zero instances of unnecessary dash panel automation. You're lucky the mach speed section is even in this level as Shadow shouldn't even have it. It's clearly just referencing it from Sonic's stage not trying to recreate it one to one or surpass it. Which the original one wasn't even all that, stop over hyping it. You ran on a waterfall which was cool but otherwise it was just another basic mach speed section. Jumping on debris was nothing unique to it as almost all of them had that to some capacity, same with the Egg Gunner chase. Plus here it actually plays well and there's way more than just "basic boost level design" with different paths.

[@sunsetpov824]

Is it bad that I kinda wanted to see metropolitan highway from sonic forces make an appearance 😭😭😭

[@jateyboi1108]

I agree with the end being underwhelming Would have been cool if you could like surf on the water like how Sonic ran on it. But no it’s very basic.

[@TheSultan1470]

Shadow is no Jesus

[@sometf2player752]

2:45 did you not see the doom surf in the new trailer?

[@SFproductions1]

I did

[@sometf2player752]

@@SFproductions1 yeah it just sounded like you were seeing it for the first time

[@LolipooChimichanga]

I'd also agree on the ending sequence of the level being a bit underwhelming. The scale seems so much smaller than the original, and the level design is so basic.

[@sirozen8133]

No homing reticle for homing attacks?

[@SFproductions1]

The UI was disabled in this footage

[@_ogzay]

Anyone else confused as to why dude said the guy sucks at the game while he’s showcasing brand new footage on a game no one has ever played before?

[@SFproductions1]

I'm a hater

[@georgescott-k4o]

17 sconds

[@mohamadhussin6013]

Really bro? Thanks man I was thinking it's suck lol 😂

[@LightshifterGame]

God, kingdom valleys water graphics look hideous ngl, nice one switch

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Fr I noticed how flat and bland it looked, it weird considering the water in the Metal Overlord fight looks way better.

[@Ismatic1906]

The level design seems kind of weak in kingdom valley. A lot of basic homing attack chains, slow gameplay in general.

[@themenacingsloth]

So.............slightly different from the original then, 'cause I just watched the OG level & aside from the final part, what you described legit sounds like 2006 Kingdom Valley, especially the slow gameplay

[@Ismatic1906]

⁠​⁠@@themenacingslothNot necessarily. This level design is a lot more straight forward with generally for more dead air and empty space. (Granted I’m comparing the appeal of the P0-6 version instead of the original with first comment and this reply)

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Very True, even though the original had a lot of Homing Attacks it was different because it wasn’t so overpowered in that game. You had to get up close and maneuver the character towards your target instead of being able to homing attack from a mile away lol.

[@TheSultan1470]

Classic modern Sanic.

[@Ismatic1906]

@@TheSultan1470 true

[@musixroxs5792]

They were cooking throughout the entirety of kingdom valley but it all went down hill for the Mach speed section 😭😭 this could’ve been the best part of the stage what happened:(

[@themenacingsloth]

@@musixroxs5792 That's where the original went downhill too

[@TheSultan1470]

​@@themenacingsloth Sonic eventually goes downhill, it's written in stone

[@chrange9714]

Nothing about it went downhill, stop acting like the original section was all that. It really wasn't.

[@themenacingsloth]

@@chrange9714 A painful autoscroller with extremely low interactivity. I honestly don't see the appeal. Jus 'cause it was more cinematic doesn't mean it's better.....or even GOOD.

[@chrange9714]

@@themenacingsloth I mean it definitely looked cool with the setting and Sonic running on a waterfall but that's literally it. And people are talking as if it was some masterpiece of art. This last section also looks really cool and actually playable now, heck when I first saw it I was like "whoooa cool it's like referencing the mach speed section from Sonic's 06 stage" not "omg it's not the mach speed section wtf this sucks" like lmao.

[@JOJO-oj8gy]

You should've reacted to GVG footage it's better

[@debisi5067]

Honestly, weird how no one talks about the Sonic Gens portion of Sonic X Shadow. Leads me to believe that it was a mistake.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

It wasn't. I'm sure it'll be fine. They just want to focus on the new content because we've already had base Generations for a while and thus know what to expect for the most part aside from small changes and added content like skins (which admittedly I do wish they'd show off more).

[@dashyburrows]

My take away is that they are trying to move away from the hand-holdey segments that fans despise, but there is still a lot to improve upon. I think the only real negative I could say is more so a problem on the engine they use which makes everything look like a fan made game.

[@justice8718]

I’m thinking that Spark 3 will catch their attention.

[@chrange9714]

There isn't "a lot to improve on" they've already improved upon it here and what? The Hedgehog Engine 2 looks beautiful and doesn't make anything look like a fan made game. Fan games wished they looked as game's in this engine.

[@dashyburrows]

@@chrange9714 Its still has linear bits of gameplay and from what we can see from said gameplay all of the alternative paths lead to the same end unlike Generations where you can take multiple different exits, and even if the same could be said for the main game, it is still something they should explore. Speaking of, that is one of the main things that I think Sega needs to try and implement, all the way back to Sonic 2 & 3 there were multiple routes into getting into either the special stages and endings which is rare or completely lost with the modern material. And no the hedgehog engine 2 makes it look like a fan game, compare it to the likes of Sonic Omens or any recent modern Sonic fangame and you'll see they are similar. As a game company you should be distinct from the fan market so customers know what is official and what isn't. Not to mention Generations and unleashed look better than what were getting, not to bash on the engine 2 too hard, but there is a distinct different between the 2 not to mention how restrictive it is with the likes of Forces and Frontiers. And like Frontiers, Sega needs to listen to fan feedback on the issues that still plague the game, as to not make the same mistakes in future installments. That being the lack of momentum, the restrictive feeling of mid-air movement not to mention the complete cancelation of speed when in mid-air and the rigged pop in of environmental elements.

[@chrange9714]

@@dashyburrows You don't say, it's almost like every single Sonic game ever has linear bits of gameplay in it. That isn't an issue, it never was so don't even try to rack on that. Guess you didn't watch the gameplay cause no, many of the alternate paths do not lead to the same end. They lead to completely different areas for collectables and other items, some taking you to them or having another different section or combat area of enemies. Then if you keep going you tend to end up on the main path later down the line, Sonic levels have always been like this. Especially base Generations, it has completely different routes in like two levels throughout the whole game. Otherwise every Modern Sonic level has alternate paths that take you to a new area but back on the main path later. It doesn't have multiple different exits again other than twice or less, shows how you've never played the original game have you. What you're talking about is the Classic formula, not Modern game formula. Special stages and different endings are only in the classic games, that's their structure. The modern material doesn't need any of that to have good engaging levels with different paths and interesting level design, this stage alone shows that as if past Modern levels didn't do that already. And no, Hedgehog Engine 2 doesn't make anything look like a fangame whatsoever, that's complete bull. Haha comparing games made in the engine to stuff like Omens and any other Modern Sonic fangame is night and day. Fangames WISH they could ever look as good as this game does, the engine is vastly superior. The whole "looks like a fangame" thing is just stuff you toxic folk say whenever anything official comes out now, it has no meaning and is blatantly not true but y'all still spout it anyways for who knows why exactly. Everyone and their mom knows what's official and what isn't, they know that this game is official just from looking at it and it's been that way ever since HE2 was first being used. In fact it's actually people like you who are trying so hard to blur the line between fangames and official ones, not the game engine being used. So don't even try to give a lecture about "as a game company you should distinct from the fan market" they've BEEN doing that. You're delusional, Generations not Unleashed looked nearly as good as this does and people have even admitted that. No frickin kidding there's a distinction between the two, they're both made in entirely different engines they're gonna look different. And nothing about it was restrictive with Forces and Frontiers, Forces was restrictive cause of its gameplay not the engine used. Yes Sega needs to listen to PROPER fan feedback on actual problems, not the stuff you're making up and trying to label as problems. Thankfully they know the right things and people to listen to, you're not one of them. You're one of the worst people they could listen to but fortunately they never will. None of the things you've mentioned are "mistakes on the franchise that could continue in the future." There doesn't need to be momentum in Modern games for them to be good and there even is that in Shadow Gens. There is no restrictive feeling in air movement, you don't lose your speed in mid-air, and there is no pop in of anything.

[@chrange9714]

@@justice8718 It won't and shouldn't, Sonic Team wants to make their own Sonic games not whatever that one's doing

[@quitt4]

Im still pissed off about how you think sonic frontiers isn’t the best 3d sonic game

[@Xerophlume]

idk how to explain it, these new games are just not hitting the same way. why is it that in adventure 2 and even 06, the characters seem fun to control, but here it seems like everything is kind of automated, in the sense that it gives the impression of being open, just because the hallway level design is a bit wider. It's like the illusion of choice, eveything looks too polished, and sonic and shadow's models look bulgy and expressionless and like fisher price. you can clearly see where they saved money, i'm a hard core yearner for a good new sonic game, but i am sorry to say this looks like it plays like Forces. With slightly wider hallways. The UI and sound effects are insulting, like HEY YOU HAVE A CHAOS CONTROL!!! LOOK WE EVEN OUTLINED THE FREAKIN CHARACTER!! and HEY YOU ARE LOCKED ON AND CAN HOMING ATTACK LOOK PRESS "A" NOW!! this does not even compare to the graphics of Generations, let alone Unleashed, i guess it's like the moon landing, apparently once they had the technology, but now for some reason they do not. i'll still buy it and probably enjoy it to some extent but man, Sonic (TM), where are you?

[@TheSultan1470]

... *lol* Sanic never had the budget to go to the stars, let alone the moon

[@themenacingsloth]

@@Xerophlume Shadow also glowed in Shadow '05 whenever he had access to Chaos Control & Chaos Blast so this ain't anything new, but it's whatever

[@chrange9714]

This is one of the most braindead whiny kid comments I've ever read. You couldn't be more wrong

[@chrange9714]

This has to be one of the most whiny childish comments I've ever read lol. You couldn't be more wrong.

[@Yoscrach]

W

[@Zoomic3520]

Yesss

[@akaofficialchannel9101]

Am I the only one that hates the lost world reticle visual and sound?

[@chrange9714]

Yes you are, it sounds great and this is a very dumb nitpick