NEW Strongest Chess Engine Crushes Sicilian Dragon

[@FranciscoDiaz-jy8ws]

the engine after i move any piece: so you have chosen *checkmate*

[@haydenarratoon4841]

you fool! you walked right into a 19-move checkmate

[@Cscuile]

Me: Moves 1 piece Stockfish: So yeah, you've already chosen death.

[@Cscuile]

But yeah, fun fact. A while ago I tested to see how large of an advantage a human player would need to beat a Threadripper Stockfish 12 Dev. It turns out, even Magnus Carlsen (2850+ Elo) would struggle to draw against Stockfish without a rook.

[@Cscuile]

@Arfael Ragnarok Fenrisulfr I used the Magnus app and made it to up against LTC computer. Feel free to test it yourself. You need a beefy CPU. Remove the rook that gives SF the biggest advantage and let it go first.

[@gorefragerance8311]

@@haydenarratoon4841 There's comments like this under all engine vids and it's just dumb and wrong and not funny

[@antimatter4733]

Me: Plays first move Stockfish+NNUe: M30

[@newpgaston6891]

If you manage to last the full 30 moves against them it's not bad!

[@antimatter4733]

@@newpgaston6891 Nah, that's the maximum, guaranteed mate in 30 moves

[@mereactnow]

@@newpgaston6891 I have managed to stop stockfish 10 upto 56 moves to mate. I guarantee, I can stop upto 30-40 moves any engine.

[@deepmindofx8148]

@@mereactnow stop lying

[@poggiesgw]

@@mereactnow with >90% accuracy, yeah?

[@chewyn6696]

Johnny Sins is doing chess now? That man can do anything.

[@therealbs2000]

Johnny Sins?

[@ImSpicy]

@@therealbs2000 dummy

[@stxx.6441]

James Park ah you live under a rock

[@therealbs2000]

@@ImSpicy i must have been asleep during the lecture man sorry. who is johnny sins and what does he do?

[@palaro17]

Hahahaha

[@KhiTurner]

_Rook to D2 at the end was literally a 4000 elo move, no human could see that_

[@rupen42]

I like how you explain. It makes all the moves seem "obvious", even when they're deep, prophylactic, engine moves.

[@scheimong]

As humans we're always taught "when you're getting attacked on one flank, counter attack in the centre". But practically it's counterintuitive and often very difficult to pull off. Glad to see this principle tactically and positionally justified by the world's (to-be?) best engine.

[@salmarwow]

As a Sicilian player, that's what I do all the time (counter attack in the center). If executed well, it can work both as attacking and defensive maneuver. Although I must admit that it wasn't very intuitive when white decided to break through the e-file, as you usually rush on the king's side in dragon.

[@Pu14unkiihooiV]

@salmarwow, @Chameleon Scheimong Exactly! Unexpected (for me) in Dragon

[@ДаниилВорончихин-и4р]

well in that position black organized an insane attack on the queen side sacrificing a million pawns, it would be way too slow to push on the king side

[@draganandrei5356]

Forget Stockfish.. I'm really impressed with the other engine defense technique! 99.99% of people would have been checkmated long before the endgame.

[@xa-1274]

Well it’s a damn machine lmao it’s programmed to be good. Engines are relatively close in strength so you’re never going to see a early checkmate

[@h4mmy753]

Damn, Elon's son is already quite advanced in chess at a very young age. Watch out guys.

[@menzac8892]

100%

[@michaelroditis1952]

@@menzac8892 yeah I think that there possibly isn't a human alive to keep up with these chess engines

[@PattyManatty]

@@michaelroditis1952 not only isn't there a human alive that could keep up with engines, there never will be. Chess eventually becomes a battle of who can calculate deeper into the game tree, and as such a human can never compete with a machine at that.

[@sebastiandierks7919]

Great analysis, Sam! Just regarding your "BOOM", you might want to take a lesson from Ginger GM😉

[@Ultrabeast-ok2ou]

Sam: Boom! Simon: BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@burrri]

Ngl it reminds me of Gj chess he uses it more

[@Twas-RightHere]

Put that in your pipe and...?

[@ColHogan-bu2xq]

I knew I heard this "BOOM" somewhere.

[@overtone55]

I kept expecting him to say "at this point, Stoofvlees resigned"

[@imamgiuseppe5103]

I like how there are millions of moves to play but "theres no way to stop this" 😧

[@Rakesh-cb5mm]

There are millions of possibilities as a whole game. There are only few moves at a time, not million

[@Dizee.]

Rakesh.. There are WAYYYY more than 1 million possibilities as a whole game, your brain can’t even comprehend how many possibilities there really are

[@tsdkou]

@@Dizee. 10^120 possible chess positions

[@Dizee.]

kAMii.. Yes, approximately

[@myrusEW]

That's kind of a fool's way of thinking. There are any endless amount of possibilities in the chess game. I could just rush my king to be mated as fast as possible. I could only move my knight back and forth, waiting to be mated. I could sacrifice one piece at a time. There are an uncountable number of chess games. How many of them are any good? A very countable number.

[@moustafa_1994]

You have a great calming narration voice, I clearly understood your explanation, thank you. Also finally a bald chess player xD

[@zombieheart8312]

Gm maurice ashley is also bald

[@ramonutis4204]

Walmart Agadmador

[@moustafa_1994]

There are others for sure, but he is the first one I see though 😂

[@javipok]

I’m sorry that I didn’t know who Sam was because his analysis and explanation is amazing.

[@YeaaaboiAlwin]

I agree, I want to see more of him!!

[@0Kaliber0]

8:16 The moment you thought you got a message hahaha 😂

[@yonatanshenhav1208]

they're so good, i think they're cheating. probably using an engine

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

This is why I never trust playing a computer

[@fbi3083]

They're an engine what do u mean?? Of course they're using an engine you fool

[@yonatanshenhav1208]

open the link, u might find it useful

[@betht840]

Ethiopian?

[@Teknikalety]

@SG Oblivion lmao r/whoooosh

[@Sree097]

Stoofvles played a brilliant Game honestly..BTW what is the rating difference?

[@anvb5a1]

Repeat after me: Stowff vlayss (StoofVlees is Dutch and pretty much pronounced like that!) It's a traditionnal sort of beef stew.

[@aeiouaeiou100]

Yeah, 'oo' is pronounced like the 'o' in 'low' and 'ee' is pronounced like the 'a' in 'name'

[@ConcordMass]

5:06 decline to accept xD

[@giovannispinotti]

Thanks for the analysis, it brings out the idea of how deep these engines are playing the game right now. It's fascinating.

[@supMgaKaJobless]

Mikhail tal, doesn't die, he reborn as engine

[@burrri]

Mind-blowing stuff really. Moves that no gm would or did ever play

[@Sean-fo8kg]

Amazing! That queenside mess would’ve had me frazzled. 😜 Better than nerves of steel, these engines have no nerves. Through all the chaos they find beautiful quiet moves that make all the difference. Great job and very instructional narration 👍

[@nbi4220]

Thanks for great coverage of a remarkable game. Please make more videos, your presentation is very instructive and pleasing to follow.

[@markhoulsby359]

Absolutely stupendous. Thank you very much for this!

[@AT-qm8gv]

So basically this is a chess engine that is the equivalent of Gogeta, fused with Vegito, fused with One Punch Man. You can play the Coffin Dance music now.

[@mimansa92]

What a monster stockfish is, I am horrified seeing this game

[@nedgrady9301]

Can you make a video explaining the CCC interface on the website? What do the graphs/numbers all mean?

[@ShareefusMaximus]

Finally a Stockfish I can learn from. The other ones, I just don't understand the reasons why they do what they do. This one plays like a super-powered human.

[@ninehills42]

Finally! More content for Agadmator!

[@whaloob]

Even if black lost, I hope Stoofvlees’s novelty appears in human play eventually too. Some very dangerous lines available to black, that may have been winning in the hands of a stronger engine (or against an engine closer in strength to Stoofvlees

[@62calum]

people say computers have ruined chess. not for me i love watching these brutes go at each other.

[@SoDamnMetal]

You'd feel a lot different playing against them

[@rabranch32]

WOW! I've been playing the Dragon off and on since 1970 and this is some GREAT STUFF you're showing here!

[@Miter_everyCorner-uk6on]

I never knew Johnny Sins knew how to play Chess..

[@oliverbaumann4318]

btw. in the current chess-engine tournament NNUe is getting crushed by Leela by a rating of around 5-1 wins-losses

[@kiel7495]

Didnt know that Johnny Sins can analyze chess games too.

[@Lukz99]

31. (black) Bishop to D7 is the only BRILLIANT move according to chess.com's analysis

[@GMPranav]

Its the strongest engine until Alpha Zero is trained for 4 more hours 😂

[@yaasdpalala4492]

lol Alpha Zero would be smashed by today's stockfish

[@sarbasov]

It must have been a long preparation to the video. Well done.

[@mckill2007]

just wow, i really like stockfish and leela

[@Twas-RightHere]

8:16 Ba-ding!

[@carlkim2577]

Great commentary. Loved the explanation.

[@pathfindervvreddy8736]

7:09. Kf5 x Qd4 , why to exchange the Queens just killing by Knight gives much advantage.

[@nobodycares2901]

Blacks king is in check

[@Ludosquo]

dude this guy has such a calming voice

[@uygarsasuke2208]

11:05 Rb6???

[@DillPicklePatrick]

Nice try but after rb6 nxg6+ king moves qg7 threatening mate

[@paymansalehishafa6884]

You are perhaps the best chess analyst I've come across.

[@strong8705]

Perfect text, perfect articulation. Two thing are too much: booms and hand gesticulation (human spirit has focus limited to one, and here it goes for the chessboard). More Sam please.

[@Tazer183]

Does the sicilian dragon ever win lol. All i see is examples of it being destroyed

[@oliverbaumann4318]

@@starboiklem8381 omg, you made my day. And oh my god, I said "omg"

[@matthewzhu7178]

I play dragon sometimes. If your opponent doesn’t know a ton of theory, the dragon is op.

[@michaelalando]

@@starboiklem8381 Kasparov played some great games with it.

[@takundabvumaimuwirimi3229]

After kf8 there is b×f7 r×f7 Qh8+ rf8 Q×f8# This is a simple winning option at 10.13 video progress check

[@blobfoggy]

the bishop is pinned by the rook on b8

[@anupbarua6151]

nnue scored 60% vs stoof in the 200 game match. so it performed 100 elo higher than stoof.

[@dhruv4911]

Really great analysis and commentary

[@sertaliozer1]

8:15: Am I the only one that looked at my phone?

[@reimuchess8843]

so my wish come true, Stockfish + Neural Network. Good game and explanation!

[@sirwerty]

Alphazero will always be nr1

[@2019inuyasha]

I see Rd2 very quickly as black looks very pinned down and guarding the second row from any rook sac seems most logical.

sam: this move is brilliant, no human can find this move magnito: hold my beer the wooden sheild master: Im i a joke to you

[@КонкретныйПацан-р4т]

Looks like GOD - level of play for white. Nothing short of breathtaking, OMG!

[@edgarkais2430]

Great instructive comments you made.

[@davidk7143]

Great analysis. Loved it.

[@yaasdpalala4492]

Stoofvlees is no joke. But at the same time, if you make stoofvlees think it has an attack, you can trick it to sac pieces. But this was just utter domination, stoofvlees wasnt given a shred of hope.

[@trando1625]

*Leela and Stockfish got married and gave birth to a monstrous engine*

[@Sid-jq8go]

Johnny Sins explaining chess ... Truely an all rounder

[@gavdav1299]

Amazing play! Nice work showing off the game.

[@talfy0]

"Strongest chess engine" Alpha Zero: "Pathetic"

[@rockyrocket3227]

A0 seems outdated :3

[@JB_inks]

@@rockyrocket3227 also AO cost hundreds of millions. I bet this is way cheaper

[@yaasdpalala4492]

A0 would be crushed today

[@JB_inks]

@@yaasdpalala4492 who knows. Google never released the source code and it ran on multi million dollar hardware. We have no way of knowing how good it is. Plus they only trained it for 4 hours, what if they trained it for months?

[@yaasdpalala4492]

@@JB_inks The strength is logarithmic. After training for longer, the gain is minimal and would halt. The 4 hours were actually 175 years of training if you run the training on a regular computer. A0 would have to change its algorithm or invest more resources, and it would probably destroy stockfish with extra resources.

[@jordanwitt1672]

Seems like Tyson Fury is planning to take up Chess after his boxing career is over.

[@1dkappe]

It’s a different kind of neural net than leela zero.

[@anthonynnawulezi7400]

Let's see it play against alpha

[@anupbarua6151]

how do you know alpha

[@bajuenarm1799]

Im Alpha, I hereby declare war on this inferior engine

[@anupbarua6151]

@@bajuenarm1799 you don't have courage to compete in TCEC or ccc

[@anthonynnawulezi7400]

@@anupbarua6151 alpha sometimes defiles best moves and still comes up top

[@jerrysmith8326]

Itll get destroyed

[@waynebrinker8095]

You know, we have created a monster....but oh, what a beautiful monster.

[@slothen3564]

In engine matches often they play predetermined openings, once from each side. Was that the case here?

[@JellyMonster1]

Great instructional video. My only gripe is that I would prefer the chess pieces to slide rather than disappear then reappear.

[@priestmarmore6750]

It isn't going so well for NNUE. He's in last place right know behind the normal Stockfish

[@Virgoak]

All I can say is wait for a different version ofAlpha zero like -1 or whatever n u will see what happens to NNUE

[@faerie859]

Which network was used for SF-NNUE in this video ?

[@X33Ultras0und]

Bots keep showing us that kills aren't as important as strategic planning.

[@fratparty69]

i got trolled by that discord ping at 8:15

[@charlesrichard7715]

This must include analysis from the Twitch community. So many sacrifices.

[@alexanderchoi1361]

Intellectual battlebots

[@KarlRKaiser]

Why do computers need "warm-up games"? Are they running on analog circuitry ?

[@jakubgrzybowski5646]

why do all chess engine have something to do with fishes(stockfish,rybka etc.)

[@Chukojc94]

Great commentary 👏🏽 love this game! Mind blowing

[@BribeNestleSin]

awesome video Sam, I think I'd love to learn more from you

[@chiefchimp3g922]

Has a person ever beaten stock fish?

[@daarisbaaris]

Stockfish is tottaly using an engine

[@cloudforest4087]

The power of computer engines.

[@stefanvannieuwkerk7177]

Stoofvlees is the dutch word for beef stew hahah. I love it how they create such a powerfull chess engine and give them such a silly name

[@HowMethods]

I thought the dragon variation was already destroyed because of the Yugoslav attack Also the link in the description has an extra exclamation point

[@russianbotfarm3036]

> leela’s nn with stockfish’s speed Ok, which fishcooking troll are you? It’s not leela’s net, and NNUE hasn’t been proven strongest yet, though of course the engines are moving targets.

[@DjVortex-w]

Could it be called the "stoofvlees gambit" or the "stoofvlees trap"?

[@LALITMOHANBANKOTI]

Great analysis sir.keep it up.

[@realracerz3242]

How to Install this Version in my Brain's 512 MB Hard disk

[@siddharthachy373]

there is already dragon chess engine ,why komodo authors wants dragon name to conflict

[@luizquevedo6580]

Did you know? Stockfisk Knew.

[@gregtechno506]

What if the engines are using G. Kasparov & A. Karpov ?

[@mrdraw2087]

So rather than the obvious 'Stokvis' those Dutchies called their engine 'Stoofvlees' (~beef stew). The pronunciation is pretty much "stofe-lace". Interestingly, its pawn sacs may not have been entirely sound.

[@Kuya_Yan_1234]

Whats NNUE? From stockfish? Neural Network...?

[@gmnotyet]

A computer genius has replaced the Stockfish eval with a Neural Network eval and it works like gang busters. So NNUE has the AB search of SF but the eval of a NN.

[@Kuya_Yan_1234]

@@gmnotyet Ok but what's AB and SF

[@ZuppaD.Cipolle]

@@Kuya_Yan_1234 alfa beta search ( or alfa beta pruning) a common search tecnique used by engines (Wikipedia has a nice article on it) sf just stands for stockfish

[@Kuya_Yan_1234]

@@ZuppaD.Cipolle Oh! Thanks! Is NNUE means Neural Network Universal Evaluation?

[@ZuppaD.Cipolle]

@@Kuya_Yan_1234 according to the creator nnue stands for efficiently updatable neural network (spelled backwards) but it's not a common term like alfa beta pruning is

[@thewarlordscalling6537]

in th fighting game taking & adopting what's best from different fight disciplines hs proved 2 yield the best results.limiting oneself 2 one style or 1 disciplined hinders development.the best chess engine should naturally b a blend of an AB engine & a Neural Network

[@DesXboy]

stockfish knew

[@mychannel-cm1ce]

How boring the chess game would be when the engine says mate in 100 moves on my 1st move as white.

[@zenchess]

If it's the strongest chess engine why is it losing to Leela ?

[@tamastorok9306]

Because Stockfish NNUE never played before against Leela.

[@grantstanish551]

Leela was giving out that SMOKE

[@randomperson6215]

Because its not the strongest chess engine and they lied to you and clickbaited you.

[@supernukey419]

Openings

[@dandelion3391]

This is not the same chess engine that lost to leela

[@filler8684]

stufefliss? its more like Stove-flace

[@quantum1861]

ELO = IQ for high values of ELO