New Tesla Model 3 Performance Revealed! Here's Our Initial Reaction & Everything We Know

[@danteisthe1]

I’d like to know the 1/4 mile times and the g force on the skid pad

[@Json918]

It will run high 10's if I had to guess.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I am thinking that software update for $3K for improved KW output form the rear motor.

[@derrekb4501]

It qualifies for the $7500 EV tax credit, essentially it's a $45000 car after the credit, making it best bargain that goes to 60 in less than 3 sec. Tesla got a winner here.

[@grahamstefaan]

And another $5000 in CO.

[@davejohnson6144]

Tax, Lic , registration, destination fee, order fees . All these bs fees add up to around $7500 on top

[@grahamstefaan]

@@davejohnson6144 about $4000 for all those which is true of any car at 50k.

[@tenzinpassang4812]

can you name me a product where you do not pay sales tax unless you have a seller's permit? FYI, no dealership mark-ups. 😂😂😂😂 ​@@davejohnson6144

[@robertt1336]

Just about. That’s the case w any new car though 🤷‍♂️

[@raheeb1]

5% reduced drag 36% lift reduction 55% reduction in front to rear lift balance.

[@mhsohel47]

Coolest car. Its just unbeatable at this price point.

[@scottstowell7]

New car looks way better than the old one!

[@Paul-cj1wb]

When I was growing up 6 seconds 0-60 was the benchmark for regular sports cars. Anything significantly faster than that was considered supercar or modified territory, which went into several hundred thousand dollars in today's money. With a few costing several hundred grands in that day's money, and into the millions in today's money. And of those anything under 4.5 was considered supercar territory, especially anything under 4 seconds. And most of the modified were not even street legal. To get a car that can do 0-60 in 2.9 seconds costing $45,490 in TODAY'S money is unbelievable. If you said that to anyone 30 or 40 years ago that a car that could do that went for $45,490 then, they would have called you crazy. That would have been found only on exotic supercar territory going for the highest prices that only high end multi-millionaires or higher could afford. And what is $45,490 in inflation adjusted money 30 or 40 years ago? In the $20,000 range? Think about that. Think about being able to buy a car that can do 0-60 in 2.9 seconds for around $20,000 dollars 30 years ago.

[@myaccount__7269]

Issue was gas cars don’t have good low end torque. Evs excel at it

[@binjones]

I want to say, I reached out to FT Collins Kia. You are correct, they are very professional. I was in the car business for several years. It’s refreshing their response and business model. I’m glad they are sponsoring you guys.

[@bobbyfaison1901]

I saw that this car got 2.9 w/o rollout on the autotrader video. That would make this almost half second quicker, plus keeps pulling hard long after 70. Add in the way better handling and adaptive suspension, better brakes, cool new bucket seats, front spoiler, qualifies for the tax credit. This thing costs less than a LRM3 did 2 years ago. This value is...ludicrous. If they made it any faster the Model S would be discontinued basically tomorrow because nobody would buy it. They added in almost every checkbox i could ask for in a performance model. The only things I wish they'd add to the performance would be brake caliper color options & wheel options. If they added in a HUD option to all their models there would be really nothing left to even want (unless you really want stalks).

[@davejohnson6144]

Wish they kept the stalks for signal and drive modes!

[@aerodyneservices]

No hatch or tilting screen or air suspension

[@bobbyfaison1901]

@@aerodyneservices I've always wished the model 3 had a hatch. That's the one thing I've thought was a major miss on it. The trunk space is fantastic but i wish the opening was better, there's been a few times i couldn't get things in it that would fit easily if it was a hatch. Screen tilt is useless imo, and air suspension isn't needed with this adaptive suspension.

[@TheHoosiers2008]

800lbs lighter than the Ioniq 5 N, lower center of gravity, and 20k cheaper after tax credit. Oh and more range. I’ll take the 100hp hit.

[@michaelsmithers4900]

I wonder if the giga castings being more rigid than stamped steel, will improve track performance. In racing chassis rigidity is desirable with carbon fiber being the gold standard… these castings may approach carbon fiber for lightness and rigidity….

[@raheeb1]

Definitely more than 510hp and the high speed torque for sure will be notably more

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊

[@frederickstirnkorb3094]

Panasonic batteries higher energy and power density do to silicon also produced in Nevada. The long range uses LG batteries and standard range is CATL.

[@phih379]

Only applies to the US.

[@kestrelglassingsystems6704]

In answer to the BMW M3 question Jason Camissa (who drove the M3P) said on his podcast today that it makes the M3 (BMW) irrelevant.

[@myaccount__7269]

As long as you don’t track it. Agreed. But so few track it doesn’t matter

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Ouch

[@Selene_M3]

It would be cool to feel the acceleration of this a few times. Track mode would never get used though… would need a separate set of tires etc. I really doubt most track capable cars really see much track time in reality. Most fast cars in my area go between stop lights and are for posing and showboating. 🤷‍♂️

[@KeYi79]

Ludicrous software upgrade purchase. To keep the Performance within the tax credit.

[@nathansuss]

Omg don't get my hopes up

[@pindot787]

This is the most logical explanation, acceleration boost for 3K, which IF included will be 56K and will not included with the tax credit. smart move from tesla. most people will definitely upgrade 3K more fo ludicrous mode.

[@BremboT]

Interesting. The motors are capable of all the stats they listed, but are customers getting the full power at launch 🤔

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

I thought ludacris was plaid w/ track mode….🤷‍♂️

[@BremboT]

@sparkysho-ze7nm Plaid is a "trim" and "drivemode" within the Plaid trim, Ludicrous is only a "drive mode".

[@lastnightsfavorite]

The new 4D2 motor is actually already old iron when it comes out. Its successor is just releasing at GigaBerlin.

[@KyleHubb]

Source?

[@lastnightsfavorite]

@@KyleHubb It is hard to provide a source if my comments keep disappearing. It is always the same thing with youtube...

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Hhhmmmmmmmm

[@metoo3918]

I just wan to know the 1/4 mile numbers. That'll let us know how bad the power falls off and when.

[@m4u5]

@Kyle. Which would you recommend between m3p at 53k vs CPO EV6 GT at 40k?

[@integra8502]

Maybe they will have a $3,000 Ludacris upgrade in the future??

[@pindot787]

This is the most logical explanation

[@michaelsmithers4900]

Based on the 20k increase for the Model S track package id think something more in the 10k range for something similar on model 3.

[@av_oid]

Ludicrous. Ludicrous! That people can’t spell this word is ludicrous.

[@Tari]

@@av_oidYou’re right - but the rapper was so good, it changed everyone’s perception and correct grammar ;)

[@JensonClinic]

Does the driver's seat have adjustable lumbar bolster like the prior Model 3 Performance?

[@davejohnson6144]

Prior M3 P never had adjustable bolsters. I had a 2022 M3P

[@JensonClinic]

@@davejohnson6144 My 2020 M3P did. Round button on the side of drivers seat to inflate the lumbar cushion. Found out the new seats on the 2024 are supposed to also have adjustable lumbar.

[@techyjames1945]

I totally agree the new performance Model 3 looks amazing. Even the tires look better.

[@Json918]

Colten done goofed. I heard this car can be had for around 40k in Colorado. This car is better in every aspect, It almost doesn't make sense how good of a deal this is.

[@scotttucker2557]

Well, out of spec do you think tesla will add a boost option

[@jamespaul2587]

Likely as an expensive OTA update like acceleration boost previously

[@IReahpZz]

So a few things mentioned here were wrong . 0-60 in 2.9 is without rollout and is omitted on the screen you showed , old m3p was 3.1/3.2 with rollout which is 3.3-3.5 seconds real world solver a half second gap is massive . sustained and peak power figures are excellent overall and due to the numbers released most likely this car will be in the 10 second range for quarter mile .

[@travellover3373]

Did you just compose your numbers? Show proof.

[@IReahpZz]

@@travellover3373 Jason Camisa for that with a passenger in the car at 80% . Everything else listed is from teslas post . You want more proof go buy one . My m3p does 3.4 on 18s but oem 20s would do 3.5 or slower without rollout . This new car also makes peak at 20 mph not 40 and holds it longer .

[@travellover3373]

@@IReahpZz The new spec for M3P is now posted and it clearly states that 0-60 is 2.9 seconds with roll out subtracted. The 0-60 time difference is not huge from the previous model and it is understandable because this new one is not a Plaid model. The 1/4 mile difference might be significant due to the fact that the new rear motors might be able to sustain the strong acceleration a little longer. FYI, I just took delivery of 2023 M3P in mid-January this year but it doesn't prove your point.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

They do have a different brake pads according to Auto Trader review.

[@shdmd2118]

Wait so they brought back the front air intakes of the old model 3 after taking it away for regular model 3 refresh?

[@michaelsmithers4900]

I’m surprised they ever took them away, EVs need cooling too…

[@shdmd2118]

@@michaelsmithers4900 I am talking more about the side intakes which I think more to with air drag etc

[@garyclark6747]

Model 3 Performance being compared to the IONIQ 5 N leaves me pondering if we’ll compare the Model Y Performance to the IONIQ 6 N. 🤷🏻 27:35

[@metoo3918]

Its an AWD EV about the same size. The Y is bubblier 3, hardly in a different class. The 3 is a car (sedan). The 5 is a car (hatchback). Supposedly, the Y is an SUV, so the comparison is valid in my opinion.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I notice that the Model 3 Performance is the same car USA or Canada, unlike the Model 3 AWD long range and RWD both are Chinese mfg cars, interesting and it has the better Panasonic Batteries which output more and charge faster than the LG batteries in the Long Range. I am glad I got my 2023 Long Range AWD from Fremont, it is a great road tripper, the LG variant is not such a fast charger.

[@noelyboy6969]

Seats look cool.

[@FreePalestine2107]

looks like tire rack has the oem 2024 model 3 performance sizes 235/35/20 Front and 275/30R20 Rear

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Fat n th back is where it’s AT

[@officialyasir]

What a bargain! $45,500 after point of sale federal tax credit!! Cheaper than the LR AWD which doesn’t qualify for the tax credit

[@urbanstrencan]

Nice that is more than adding just more power but some performance reengineering too😊❤

[@seanxu13]

On a different Brand. Any thoughts on the new 2025 Mercedes-Benz G 580 with EQ Technology?

[@aussie2uGA]

How long down into it's state of charge can it maintain its peak power?

[@lastnightsfavorite]

1s? Like any previous Performance?

[@aussie2uGA]

@@lastnightsfavorite on a dyno, the model 3 loses hp rapidly as SOC declines. By 60%, you’re down considerable hp compared to something like the Plaid, where they say max power is still available at 30%.

[@williamhu2700]

@@aussie2uGAhence the new rear motor

[@myaccount__7269]

Cyber truck had zero,loss at all percentages

[@lastnightsfavorite]

@@aussie2uGA that's why I said one second. Model 3 and Model Y lose power with every % and every degree drop in cell temperature, because the current stays constant, not the power. Voltage is the variable.

[@grahamstefaan]

Ordered it. $40,490 in my state after credits. That barely buys you a top Camry at 37k.

[@stephenromano6311]

What state are you in to get even more off?

[@grahamstefaan]

@@stephenromano6311 CO

[@davejohnson6144]

That doesnt include all the fees on top for Tax , Lic, registration, destination and order fees etc

[@pindot787]

@@davejohnson6144 But exclude the money for stealership

[@grahamstefaan]

@@davejohnson6144 that's every 45k car... I suppose you could drive your 83 Corolla forever if you wanted.

[@flox8342]

why TF is the CN/EURO car underspec compared to the freemont car?!

[@AbbenHung]

it uses different battery cells so the discharge performance is a bit lower.

[@larryc1616]

Everything is faster in America

[@davebway6371]

US uses Horsepower, EU uses Brake Horsepower. They are measured differently, and HP always measures higher than BHP. There is no actual difference in spec.

[@flox8342]

I heared from Lars directly that it is the LG Battery that does not deliver enough power in the Cn/Euro Model… :(

[@phih379]

Is this chat also open for non US citizens?

[@balintfarkas1041]

More power, lower energy consumption New Performance 4th gen drive unit can deliver: +22% continuous power +32% peak power +16% peak torque compared to previous Model 3 Performance. All with lower total energy consumption!

[@lastnightsfavorite]

Most of it is not true though and especially with efficiency it is impossible to hide. The new car has higher consumption and less range with the same battery pack.

[@balintfarkas1041]

@@lastnightsfavorite i copy paste this from Tesla official site, less range maybe becouse the EPA and WLTP test is harder than the previous one

[@lastnightsfavorite]

@@balintfarkas1041 the test is standardized and wasn't changed meanwhile. It will surely be a great car, but this press release is overstating the stats quite badly.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Really this Model 3 performance rides better than the AWD long range according to Autotrader, so why would anyone buy the long range AWD? It is great daily driver, super great road tripper and your can take it to the canyons or track!

[@howled0]

It’s kinda in the name…

[@michaelsmithers4900]

Long range is cheaper and still performs way better than most dailies on the road

[@Jontae4288]

I believe they didn't go crazy with power because the battery itself is way smaller than a model s or a cybertruck.

[@RemoteSpeed007]

You guys missed the most important statement by Elon, batteries are coming down in price, hence more profit going forward.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Prices will continue to fall for th Ned 6 years

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Next

[@gchetail]

Thank god they didn't call it Ludicrous

[@howled0]

Why

[@gchetail]

@@howled0 because that’s a terrible name.

[@matthewturner261]

So ludicrous is a bad name but plaid isn’t? I think it would’ve been better if they called it ludicrous it sounds unique.

[@gchetail]

@@matthewturner261 where did I say Plaid wasn’t a bad name? Unique doesn’t equal good.

[@michaelsmithers4900]

It’s hard to come up with good names, what would you suggest “performance”

[@muskistutter]

What are you looking at Colton? It’s still looks subdued. So much so that when Franz unveiled the car to automotive to automotive press today it was crickets.

[@Bluelightning23]

For someone who buys a Camaro or Porsche or a Corvette. They're not concerned about noise.

[@grouponful]

I bet they will charge 2k for 0-60 in 2.4 sec

[@BillB33525]

Interesting no Yoke Steering Wheel.

[@davejohnson6144]

Thank god!

[@zeitgeist888]

I don't get the comparison to Ionic 5N. That car is $13k more, doesn't qualify for tax credit/rebate, has a higher Cg, is heavier by quite a bit and isn't as quick 0-60 as the old M3P let alone the new M3P. Great car with features that may add to driver involvement but the performance is no match. I just hope the new M3P can manage the heat of battery and motors for longer times on track like the Ionic 5N.

[@12345idiotsluggage]

Agreed. Ioniq5 is a nothing burger. Most people can't afford that either. Might as well add a $100+ to your monthly payment and buy a Model S plaid. Model S plaid will destroy pretty much everything. Obvs Rivian will be releasing R3 in 2026. But tri motor R3 is gonna be beastly. I'd estimated R3 price near Ioniq5. R3 seems like a better comparison.

[@patrickhornacek8593]

Yep, Ionic5 should be compared to Model S now, and it can’t compare. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jeremiahglass8262]

Does the Apple Watch make Rolex irrelevant?

[@doolittlegeorge]

Don't see any "stepping on the toes of the Model S" but still a lot missing so that people can mod out their 3 for example no fender flares for wider tires down pressure whale tail stuff. Honda Civic of Yore still better imo as is the current Ford Maverick. Definitely a well needed addition to the plunging in sales Model 3 tho😮😮😮😮😮.

[@danno180]

The Soltara should have been named the LezLa for its target demographics. The two (L)’s could cross each other like a scissor as the front badge or logo.

[@PYTwwe]

"...you have to deal with all the compromises: loud engine" - that's the reason why people buy sports cars, not a compromise

[@jamespaul2587]

Not necessarily, when one owns a performance car used as a daily driver

[@explosev6513]

I'm still hoping for a ludicrous trim haha

[@jeromeandre4915]

Let’s go!!!

[@gchetail]

Would there ever be a person with great knowledge of Tesla put the Plaid motors in a model 3?

[@robertt1336]

Perhaps they should just eliminate the long range and focus scaling the performance…. Or make the long range a RWD w a new more powerful motor & add another 15% range

[@craighermle7727]

If the Model 3 had a hatch I would have purchased it. I had to compromise with a Model "Y" long-range

[@craighermle7727]

The New Model 3 doesn't doesn't qualify for the Fed incentives, does it?

[@3030hp]

WOW

[@TheJAMF]

Apparently, the China-made P has lower power output (kW/HP). Please North America, buy plenty of new M3P's and sell/export them to Europe when they are second hand. 🙏😉

[@JohnoEx]

Giga Shanghai model has lower power and 0-100km/h in 3.1s. 🇺🇸 Fremont 🇨🇳 Shanghai 510hp 460hp 741 Nm 723 Nm 2.9s 0-60mph 3.1s 0-100km/h Panasonic 82kWh LG 79kWh

[@legacytesla]

All the other car reviewers got invited to experience it hands on??? No first hand experience?

[@tomrybold]

you have not driven it yet kyle

[@surturiel]

Nice price. Here in Canada it's about the same price as a Mach E Premium Extended range. If it wasn't for all Elmo's antics, I'd consider it.

[@jezza6575]

Why not buy a new one from Tesla directly..why buy used from Elon?

[@patrickhornacek8593]

Enjoy your MachE. 😂

[@surturiel]

@@patrickhornacek8593 Don't be pedantic. I used the Mach E to illustrate how cheap comparatively the New M3P is going for.

[@patrickhornacek8593]

@@surturiel Elon’s antics? Who’s being pedantic? Don’t believe everything you hear from MSM.

[@GudieveNing]

All those commenting on the excellent price to Performance the 3P offers today, this vindicates just how good Tesla will be at creating a COMPELLING sub=$25K EV and/or CyberCab. The Cybertruck is not such good value - today - because it's a generation one design, so will take a few years to be optimised. August 8 will be interesting, although to avoid Osborning the 3 and Y, am sure it will be an FSD + Prototype something demo, a bit like the 2019 Cybertruck intro. And whatever it is, won't be a 2+2 type vehicle, more, a hot hatch design for 1+1 or 1+0 passengers, with a spacious rear for luggage or shopping and limited rear leg room. A mini Y, styled more like a Cybertruck.

[@gregpochet4812]

We don't need more performance EVs that are > $50k.. We need more sub $35k EVs. Going to 0-60 in 3 secs is cool for the first 5 times, then it gets old...

[@larryc1616]

2s never gets old. Plaid baby!

[@Skeetskeet333]

Never gets old

[@CheddarKungPao]

Can't wait til you guys can get behind the wheel and share your thoughts. Unless they made it worse than the last one, this is the performance deal of the year.

[@RemoteSpeed007]

Try FSD 12.3.4+ and you will know that there is a clear path to robotaxi, it's very obvious.

[@Olddahg]

I owned an m3p and found it kind of boring (and creaky) after a few years. This could hold me over until Rivian R3x comes out

[@Json918]

tell me you hold a failing companies stock without telling me you own it. Model 3 Performance shats on anything from that other shat company.

[@larryc1616]

You might as well buy fisker, nikola or lucid now before bankruptcy

[@Rapido20]

Coleton extremely du mb getting a new model 3 performance weeks ago knowing well that a new faster slimmer more modern performance was coming Instantly outdated car

[@cleardetailing5499]

I bought the car 7 months ago. Sticker price was $48,000, minus a $7500 tax credit, and $5000 Colorado. Not at all wishing I would have waited.

[@RemoteSpeed007]

My suggestion: Stop discussing the TSLA investment if they have not tried a Tesla with FSD. You are trying to tell people about a smartphone that they have not seen or used, but theorize what it's like when they are still using a dial phone at home.

[@Aztasu]

The upcoming electric Mercedes-Benz CLA AMG will come with 400kW/536hp (544PS), 800V architecture, HUD, LIDAR and has a way better range with about 350 miles EPA (standard CLA will have 400 miles EPA). Model 3 is cheaper but offers way less. I think that is the right way for Tesla. Tesla is not a premium manufacturer but rather builds good performance-for-money EVs (not value-for-money because power alone is not everything in a car, better build and interior quality as well as tech functions like HUD, 800V, LIDAR can also mean value). I think that the new Model 3 Performance is fair. If you want better stats and more of a premium interior with nice tech features you will always find something better elsewhere.

[@KyleHubb]

How much will the CLA AMG weigh, if the EQE weighs 5,534 lbs?

[@evostu7814]

They are too heavy.

[@EwanM11]

The mercedes will be way slower. Most competitors never caught up to the old m3p with 450hp. They might still do ok for people who don't like Tesla interiors.

[@larryc1616]

How much?

[@darrenorange2982]

Old design looks more like a Porsche new car looks cheaper.

[@darrenorange2982]

Out going car was 11.5s for quarter mile I'm n ot believing its going to improve much doubt it'll do much better than 11.1s or 11.2s

[@jezza6575]

@@darrenorange2982if it dips into the 10’s I’ll be more than happy!

[@darrenorange2982]

@@jezza6575 doubtful

[@Kareem-cx4fi]

​​@@darrenorange2982 it probably will be high 10s... The real world 0-60 is already a .4-.5 improvement, it also has improved peak and high speed, so if the old could do 11.5, this one sounds like it could shave about .6s - .8s in the quarter mile.

[@peacems]

2023 Model 3 owner and I like both designs. Saw my first refreshed Dual Motor a few days ago, Ultra Red and damn that's a nice looking car. The back is a better upgrade than the front but the front looks good in it's own right. My feeling on the front design overall is neutral, I like both.