New Tesla Model 3 Standard LFP v Long Range v Performance - real world range and charge compared!

[@redjohn20001]

For me the LFP battery is a game changer. It can be 100 percent charged every time, is more rugged, degrades less quickly than the other type batteries, contains fewer of the precious materials, able to receive twice as many charge cycles in its life time. Yes it is heavier for a given capacity but yet again Tesla have shown the way forward.

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Agree exciting times ahead 😀

[@guybrushthreepwood3002]

Also affected by cold weather more too, do nothing for range, and will only be offered in standard range vehicles. The main reason for the switch is profit margins as they are cheaper. Because of their weight, they'll be kept ro shorter range vehicles. They are also not exclusive to Tesla, and you can expect them in ither standard range vehicles in the future. Great that battery tech is moving forward though, the real jump forward will be the Panasonic 4680 cylindrical battery, which can store 5 times as much power as current Teslas can.

[@marcusbiller867]

LFPs degrade when excessively charged to 100% too. Not as bad as Li Ion, but quite a lot, do your research. The only reason Tesla is suggesting to charge to 100% is so that the BMS knows where is up and down. On LFP, anything below 90% and above 10% is almost exactly the same voltage so unless you do 10-100% charges the BMS is screwed. But 100% is not good for LFPs either. Also, even at 100% charging and almost all DC charging you can still expect maximum 10-12% degradation on Li Ion after 150-200,000km, which is more than most people do in the lifetime of the car... Maybe 5% on LFP, not a difference there.

[@marcusbiller867]

@@guybrushthreepwood3002 lets first see what the 4860 is before we make suggestions. I think initially these will be a let down - too much hype

[@skibotnia3922]

@@marcusbiller867 LFP battery is lithium battery too. (Lithium Iron Phosphate, LFP)

[@henriquerochelle]

We are here in Brazil always rooting for your success and that you continue to send us early and relevant information for the motorsport scenario of the future! thanks !

[@MarcoPon]

Your convoy comparisons are always some of the most interesting and well made real world testing!

[@omernagi7]

Just ordered my model 3 standard and this has calmed my nerves about range anxiety. Thank you

[@markbonasso1583]

Excellent real world experiment. Selling my pickup truck and buying a Tesla 3. Was stuck between standard and extended range. Seeing your results, I am going standard! Not worth the extra 5K for about 25 miles distance. I'm glad I found this video.

[@Llamapup]

Another great video. I understand the value of the LFP batteries being able to charge to 100% on a daily basis, but a journey like this for me would be a proper road trip where I would charge my LR AWD M3 to 100% . So it would be good to see the comparison with 100% charge in all cars. Maybe a journey of 275 miles including charging .

[@ezpoppy55]

Terrific video and comparison! Love my 2021 M3 SR+ and have found it to be a very road worthy family (2 adults, 2 teenage boys) vehicle during the 9months / 10,000 miles I’ve driven it. It’s been on a few round trips of 1,000-1,200 miles. I’ve got a spring trip from California to Kentucky (~2,500 miles one way) coming up and I’m very excited to see how the car performs. Thanks for the great work and enduring freezing cold! Stay warm.

[@Wassenburger]

Embrace your geekery and numbers! As someone with a science background, I really enjoyed the data obtained and graphs in this video. Especially in real world conditions. Really helped me make an informed decision between a standard model and Longe Range model. Keep up the good videos!!

[@Redix9]

The best data analysis I have seen on KZbin! This makes me happy with my choice of the standard range, although I was stuck with opting for the performance rims for a faster delivery date. But shouldn't hurt the range too much especially since I live in LA,CA.

[@russvague2748]

Another great video! Was waiting for a comparison of the 3 versions. Thanks so much.

[@bigdougscommentary5719]

Really appreciate your methodology used to make the video content. So many KZbinrs do these comparisons utilizing sequential testing instead of parallel testing. This is particularly erroneous when comparing different manufacturers’ models. Thank.

[@Glyn001]

Thanks for all the hard enjoyable work that went into this real world range test

[@elmkglyfe7627]

You have one of the best channels discussing Tesla’s. You guys actually give relevant information vs the goofy “ things I wish I knew” type stuff way too many KZbinrs are doing with goofy thumbnails and useless stuff. Keep it up.

[@TheophilusPWildbeest]

Exactly what I was wondering about (and I love a good spreadsheet). Thanks for doing the analysis, very useful.

[@dwylhq874]

Thank you so much for doing this real-world comparison Richard! Really isn’t much in it between SR+ (LFP) and LR! 🙌

[@sebstott3573]

I wish people would more often quote time to add 100 miles of range. Time from 10-80% penalizes large batteries and doesn't take into account efficiency. It also gives a sense of what a road trip would look like if you were trying to reach the destination as quickly as possible (short charges keeping the battery under 70%).

[@gbw28]

Even spending about 23 mins to add 150 miles is completely acceptable to me.

[@twotone3871]

Another great analysis RSymons. But I guess the results are as expected. Basically, all Model 3s are rear wheel drive. The dual motor M3s have front wheel traction control and do not drive the front wheels unless the rears slip. The dual motors are heavier so would be slightly less efficient that the rear wheel only drive. The driving conditions were quite benign and wouldn't have engaged traction control at all, so the front motors never drew any power - only if preconditioning was turned on prior to supercharging. Congratulations win the success of the channel.

[@giodelonso6030]

I am considering buying a Model 3 so this range comparison is really useful. Thx for your work.

[@andrewgray4784]

Would be interesting to see what the long range on 18” wheels was like compared to 19”. Also I am interested in the supercharge charge time differences between pre heat and not pre heated. If you are not in a hurry, is it better to not pre heat? Great work as always 👍

[@RSEV]

More videos on both those to follow… 😉

[@andrewgray4784]

@@RSEV awesome 🤓

[@nielsvandenkieboom5034]

Always pre-heat. It's better for the battery long-term. Of course you can't always pre-heat optimally but it's always better than charging a stone cold battery at a DC charger. For AC it doesn't really matter.

[@andrewgray4784]

@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 thanks Neils, do you know of any references where I could read about it?

[@pablopirineos]

If you are not in a hurry, do not pre heat. It is a waste of energy and money, and it is better for the battery health a lower temperature than a higher one. It is well known that Li-ion batteries prefer soft temperatures like 16-22 degrees Celsius. Regards from Spain.

[@MCSMIK]

Great video, once again proves the point that for 90% of people the Rear Wheel Drive Model 3 (or old SR+ name) is more than enough. Less battery to drag around and better efficiency for shorter daily trips. Costs less to buy and costs less to run. Unless you're made of money I don't know why you'd care about more than Standard in UK really...

[@nettlesoup]

For me, two years ago the LR was the only viable choice for occasional trips from the southeast to deepest darkest West Wales. It's still a real time saver on frequent journeys via the southern stretch of the M25 where Superchargers are few and far between (nothing between Heathrow and Maidstone that's easily accessible from the motorway at least). Speaking as someone who doesn't have home charging and relies entirely on public charging, the ability to go several days without having to venture out at night in the cold to a nearby slow charger and wake up early in the morning to pick the car up again before the car park charges come into force is worth the extra few thousand quid. LR with power boost is also very good fun and the 4WD gives me even more peace of mind in the snow. Things are improving constantly of course. Now there's a Supercharger on the west coast of Wales and one day very soon, GridServe will persuade ABB to pull their fingers out and work out how to get their chargers delivering more than the paltry 20 or 43 kW currently available at Cobham and Clacket Lane services. Until then I'm sailing by and getting places quickly and with less worries. In summary, yes, I'm in the 10% that probably really need LR, while for most, as you said, Standard Range works great.

[@jonathansmith5850]

Yet again I'm so impressed with the efficiency of that new Standard Range battery, esp in the cold temperatures you drove in. It is such good value for money. Almost makes it worth considering instead of the long range even if you can afford the long range, esp for 7-8k less............

[@davetalton6939]

Very interesting to see a real world comparison. Great work.

[@richardeskins]

Another great video. Really interesting to see the new SR perform so well in comparison. Like others, I'd like to see the LR with 18 areos.

[@recklessrogue9027]

Another great convoy range test. Love the addition of the consumption and estimated range graphics.

[@jm9371]

Great dedicated EV channel... subscribers should explode this year. GREAT CONTENT!

[@sybaseguru]

Great test. Time to add miles is the only recharge metric that matters. Its the one I care about - how long to recharge to do another 2+ hrs of driving on a nearly empty battery - in winter. My SR+ is 25mins - just time for a coffee and a pee.

[@kenominix8210]

I just love your channel, videos & indepth yet simplistic analysis/so easy anyone to understand.👍

[@RSEV]

☺️🤗

[@maxgreece1]

I have the SR+ with the LFP battery. Winter seems to make a big difference to the economy although I don’t know if it’s more or less than for their other battery chemistry’s. Suffice to say in warmer weather we were getting 105 KW/KLM and now that it’s gotten colder (around 5 to 10 degrees in Athens) we are averaging 145. I should say that’s mainly around town and dual carriageway and in “chill mode.”

[@miggy8011]

In New Zealand with a SR+/RWD (Nov 21) 60kW LFP battery, just done 4700km at 141 kW/km

[@ouethojlkjn]

Excellent episode! I would add that if a driver was attempting a long - one or more stop to supercharge journey - you might at least start off from home with 100%. So the Lon Range may get another 30 miles before needing to stop (or get away from the charger earlier) and similarly for the Intercooled Turbo. I mean Performance. However, if you don't care for spleen shattering acceleration and can do without an active sub and front fogs then the "base model" with heated steering wheel, electric boot lid makes a compelling package for the price.

[@Bubblegummonsters]

Thanks for this, found it very useful. I own a M3P 2019 plate so it doesn't have the slightly bigger battery or heat pump. But I was actually pleasently surprised that the distances I get in the winter aren't too far off what your M3P gets in the winter. I think realistically I get about 200 miles now when it's freezing outside but then my battery also now only shows about 280 to 286 miles when fully charged due to my 30,000 miles on the clock . In the summer I can just about manage 230 and if Im drving very carefully aroundf 240. Would be great to see a comparision between the old and new to see what data you discover.

[@roderickmain9697]

Mine, also 2019 M3P, get similar range to you.

[@Bubblegummonsters]

@@roderickmain9697 could to know I’m in the same range as others

[@nielsruge]

Thanks for providing the figures also in metric, greetings from 🇩🇪

[@kevintengco7413]

Big fan from Canada. Subscribed shortly after receiving my 2021 M3 LR this past September and have learned so much from this channel. Thank you!

[@babylon5mh]

Richard, since speaking to you about the Model S, seeing this and other videos, I am changing to a Model 3. This video is definitely going above and beyond. Really great videos. I'll call you soon regarding a Model 3 Keep up the good work, it's very much appreciated 👍

[@reubenmitchell5269]

the M3 SR LFP is the perfect car for New Zealand; we have Cheap power, it never gets as cold as this (except in the deep South) so range is always close to the summer range all year round, it can basically drive anywhere only needing one supercharge, we get the MIC version so no quality issues. Suddenly I see why it ended 2021 in the Top 10 selling vehicles despite costing $60k NZD.

[@alexdalgleish1061]

$60k in NZ only £30k GBP in the UK. If only we paid that here.

[@reubenmitchell5269]

@@alexdalgleish1061 that's after the govt BEV grant

[@alexdalgleish1061]

@@reubenmitchell5269 Thought might be. California discount even bigger. Doubt the UK will ever get close to either.

[@johnmckay1423]

@@alexdalgleish1061 Nearly new Model 3s are going for more than list price on Autotrader currently, so no chance of prices coming down 😔

[@adrianleitch6996]

@@alexdalgleish1061 £32k in Australia currently for the SR+/RWD excluding any subsidies, slightly higher with on roads but still 'cheap' here for a Tesla

[@15bit62]

I admit it is closer than i expected. The larger battery in the long range and performance will make a bigger difference if you just do short journeys (e.g. commuting) with preheating, because the preheating is about the same energy for all. Of course if you have home charging you won't care about that.

[@marcusbiller867]

Because they factor in 90% on LR vs LFap

[@MrKlawUK]

for just range (if performance/AWD doesn’t matter to you) I think the new 60kwh SR is the best value right now. The LR I’d try and hold off until the 79-82Kwh battery comes to give it a bit more of a range gap again. That range doesn’t justify the £7k price increase (of course if you want the performance or AWD that affects your decision too)

[@RSEV]

Shame we don’t get that version here yet, but yes I agree

[@danpaul4975]

@@RSEV might be coming soon, the quoted range on the site has changed for the long range to 374, maybe to reflect bigger battery??

[@MrKlawUK]

Feels like the new 82 is needed to reassert the LR value - the 60 RWD closes the gap just enough to make the LR look less value for money. If we're sure new orders Q1 this year will be the 82kwh that might be a good option. At the moment it seems a little uncertain?

[@hulkhogan9450]

I have a 2019 Model 3 SR+ with 45,000km on the clock running 19s and full charge too 100% gets me 353km on the dash which it never does anyway unless driving like miss daisy. Be good to see a comparison of maybe 3 of the same eg early SR+ 2018/9 and then a 2020 and then a MIC with the latest battery pack. Mix it up with a high mileage one for variety. Great stuff as always, your a blessing to the EV world.

[@Joe-lb8qn]

Excellent to see "time to add miles" as a stat ! Hopefully you will be leading others reviewers doing that.

[@BeppeMr02]

Really nice video. I have one remark for the 3D graph that you showed. Like my Data Analysis teacher once said: "There is no need for 3D if 2D explains everything already".

[@mazboengineer]

Spot on Richard 👍🏼 ..with the changes and updates in recent times I’ve been waiting for a direct comparison video. Thank you sir 🙏🏼

[@Zlaterrr]

After about 10 months of owning and a bit under 10,000 miles my 2021 m3p have averaged 200wh/km during these miles. It increases a fair amount when it is cold outside.

[@HermanWillems]

That is pretty high!! Is it one with heatpump? Or your driving it in such way it uses alot? And how cold is cold? My collegue had Model Y performance with towing stuff for 300km. And used on average 220Wh/km

[@Zlaterrr]

@@HermanWillems The winter certainly pulls up the numbers alot. During the summer im closer to 160-170 average.

[@justinholding02]

I don't like Tesla's, but had to watch your video anyway, such a great channel 😉. And thanks for adding the kWh/100km. Great job as always. 👍👍

[@stoatsngroatsuk5012]

A perfect report, thanks! I particularly liked the spreadsheet data at the end, rather than spoken detail,during the film, it’s easier for me t understand the comparison. Cheers guys!

[@walkerrichardson]

Great video. I appreciate that you educated viewers about pre-conditioning and included that as part of a pre-road trip checklist.

[@NYRunnerJai]

Be great to know the degradation over time, which is one of the selling points I've heard about the LFP batt. I ordered the M3 LR (NCA batt) only because the EDD was 6 months sooner. I'm now thinking I should change it to the RWD because I heard in other YT vids that the degradation over time is much less (but some comments below kinda contradict that). I plan to own my car for 8-10 years so this is definitely a factor.

[@j.shussain7528]

Makes sense pal. I've got my eyes on getting a RWD next. I also intend on owning it for quite a few years like yourself.

[@pilotavery]

You get a lot more degradation in the first year or so but after that it flattens out and the degradation almost stops. Lithium iron phosphate batteries actually have a break-in period of a few dozen to 100 cycles which is about a year of everyday usage. Also, if you look at the real world range test they exceed the rated capacity, but this is only when they're new. After they break in, they should match the rated range.

[@DS-pk4eh]

So at the moment in the wintertime, I am at 16kWh/100km, I have LR 2021 made in the Shanghai factory, so I would suppose it has an LFP battery. I have 18" wheels. The car might look a bit better with 19¨ ones but it is not worth it. You get a more comfy ride and a bit more range with smaller wheels. Great review, it was done properly. Kudos.

[@burntwafflz]

Amazing test! Just what I was looking for. Thanks so much for what you and your team do!

[@martinweston8147]

Great details and content much appreciated all the effort that goes into making this 👍

[@nickieredshaw7835]

Thanks for another great video update. Great to see the data well done take care and safe travels

[@christopherthompson4464]

Great job. Well done. Interesting. And clear!

[@JRCarReviews]

Appreciate the km and kW/km data, the Celsius temp., if you would only mention how fast were you driving in km/h that would round up all the data for rest of the world and entire Europe.

[@JackMBradley]

4:53 can we just take a moment to notice that reverse parking...

[@P4LL3R]

I also like the VW Fox at 5:25 going forward until he bumps into the curb. Amazing parking skills there.

[@davidgreen8171]

Another great video, great stats and good to see associated costs. I think the SR is the no brainer choice looking at those stats.

[@patrickscarventures6508]

Great video! I do like that the SR can be charged to 100%. I think that that makes it a decent purchase. Part of me is thinking of buying another SR+ with LFP just so I would have less range anxiety with daily commutes. I have a LR on order after selling our SR+

[@ianjames3078]

Just reverted back to this really useful reference test. More inclined now to go for the RWD to be honest, I don’t need the performance or extra insurance costs of the LR or Performance …….cracking video.

[@joeburrow3422]

sir your videos are amazing! such a easy watch any time of the day!

[@dhaynes325]

I have the long range version and I charge it to about 80% every other day. I love the car and I great usage out of it. The battery life is great. The speed and value of the long range is great since it's the "middle" of the three.

[@Bbronson]

You ever drive a standard range in comparison? I like the power and range of the long range but the weight difference saving like 500 lbs for a older standard range appeals to me. Don’t wanna super heavy car if possible.

[@kacperlis5321]

More LFP content please!

[@MarcoTrillion]

AWESOME! THANK YOU, THAT HELPED A LOT TO MAKE MY DECISION ON MY MODEL 3 PURCHASE.

[@madmike6266]

Good video. Loving the trance music too. I’ve noticed my long range drop it’s range quite a bit but nothing too bad. Roll on the summer 🤣

[@jonathantaylor1998]

I find these comparison tests absolutely fascinating, Richard - thank you as always... But, oh my Lord man... Whilst I'm one for stats and data - jeez, fella... your spreadsheet at the end gave me brain freeze...!! 🤣

[@SphereNZ]

Great comparison, and putting the stats on the screen really helped, thanks!

[@jakubchodilek6882]

I would love if you guys do this test with M3 without heat pump. It could be interesting to compare old and new models.

[@Clayspeed]

Regarding @3:02 My 2021 Model 3 performance shows 273 miles of range at 90% SOC. Curious as to why this one shows only 263. Very happy with the real world performance in this case regardless.

[@LuckTR]

I think the most valuable data, subjectively, are the recharge times...The efficiency and relevant range is heavily affected by wheel size in this case...in addition to other factors such as AWD, weight etc. I bet having the LR Dual Motor on 18s would make a sound case for the upgrade still (+the acceleration fun factor). Performance is just too much fun hahah. Love the data. Thanks for your hard work, RSEV Team!

[@audunskilbrei8279]

Keep in mind that the recharge times as they are presented here are also affected by wheel size. If the LR was fitted with 18" Aero wheels the "Time to add 100 miles" would be shorter. Although it would still probably be ~9 minutes. I don't imagine it would make that much difference. My takeaway from this is unless you need 4WD go for the SR. If you want to have fun go for performance. The Long range, at these prices, falls between two chairs for me.(Even though I actually own a LR myself. haha.)

[@boostav]

@@audunskilbrei8279 You have to keep in mind this LR has the 75kWh battery. They have now transitioned to the 80kWh ones.

[@jeromeandre4915]

excellent! thanks for taking the time to produce such a video/test. (y)

[@ericvet8b]

Great video again. It shows how good the SR is. Although saying that I have a MIC LR on 18” standard wheels with aero covers. Would be interesting to find out what the LR on 18s would have got compared to 19”s… And did you take into consideration degradation? (Or very similar mileage in 3 cars?). And those total ranges on P and LR.. based on the 90%? As if I was going to do a 200m trip, especially in winter, would charge to 100%… Thanks again! Keep at it!! 👍👍

[@73henny]

I want a combination of these cars. I'd a SR+ on order for Dec delivery but cancelled it - made the 'mistake' of test driving a Performance. My perfect spec would look & accelerate like the Performance, have the battery from the Performance, have the suspension from the LR, but have the option to run on one motor during normal driving.

[@RSEV]

By the way you’d have trouble picking apart the suspension/ride quality between a performance and a long range. Both too hard

[@marcinmerrimack1726]

How does suspension/ride quality of SR compare to LR?

[@rdbeswick]

Enjoy watching your videos!! Both you and your team.....Excellent work!!!

[@Jaysondk]

Great video and data! Definetly a great channel, i subscribed as well keep it up!

[@justcruisin109]

I ordered the M3LR mainly for the AWD - the larger battery was just a bonus although given the distances in Australia, it will undoubtedly be very handy for longer trips. Cheers and thanks for all your efforts to help educate us.

[@--Nath--]

I'm in Oz and got the M3LR - it's great (if you have the extra cash for the LR) - although the extra juice in reserve is for running the aircon in summer (this zero degrees stuff is fairly irrelevant when there are more real world 30-40 or more degree days..). The SR+ would also be fine - just would spend a bit more time at super chargers, but boy they are quick.. a bit too quick sometimes!

[@justrandomthings319]

Performance has AWD too.

[@AllenHart999]

Amazing channel. Thanks.

[@mikeburgess7787]

Nice video Richard,getting my RWD in the next couple of weeks after what seems like waiting decades.Keep up the great work. Mike

[@ryanconklin1440]

I have a Model 3 love your videos. People always come up to my car and ask how l like my Tesla? Such a dumb question, what I am going to say "no I hate the car, that's why I bought it." lol

[@marcinmerrimack1726]

No need to react negatively to people simply inquiring genuinely about your car.

[@tomattime]

Always quality and fascinating real world rEViews 👏🏽

[@zunairmushtaq5888]

Thank you for this video. Much needed. Now waiting for Model Y comparisons ones you can get your hands on it.

[@jamesdean2706]

Nice one, i really liked that comparison. cheers

[@andie9762]

Nice editing!

[@kenshannon1876]

This was such a great assessment! Interesting to see that the long range only does roughly 70km more than the standard range. I own a standard range and was always wondering had I made the right decision to save €8k to get standard range over long range. Considering the you can get anywhere in Ireland from Dublin in a standard range, I don’t see the need for the long range. Thanks for the great video!

[@ivancajka732]

It has 150km more range not 70

[@--Nath--]

Remember they only went to 90% - you can charge a LR or perf to 100% for longer trips. So it is quite a bit more if you go beyond the "daily" tesla recommended charging range of

[@vinza10]

Really enjoy the videos, thank you! Hope to get a Tesla Model 3 Performance soon in New Zealand. Keep up the great work ✌

[@spikebmth]

Theres me thinking you've taken a very scenic route to start with, then remembered "the bridge is out!" Then you park in an empty car park, and someone parks right next to you lol Great Video!

[@RSEV]

😂 parked right next to my car out of many spaces!

[@bobbobman767]

Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that - they made a right meal of it too!!! lol :)

[@spikebmth]

@@bobbobman767 I thought they where going to hit Tesla at first!

[@scepticalcarols]

Excellent perspective, very well done and thought through.

[@leeoldershaw956]

I like your test methods. Do you also rotate who's in the lead so that all the cars experience the same amount of drafting which has significant effects even at normal highway spacing. Bjorn Nyland runs a lot of tests but conditions aren't standardized. Temperature, wind, rain have large effects.

[@illharvey]

Great comparison, I recently got a 2020 M3P, just wondering how much difference pre-conditioning makes to overall efficiency in this cold weather? We don’t currently have a home charger (about to move house) so it’s a bit of a catch 22 as I’m not sure fully pre-conditioning would be worth it when not plugged in. Currently struggling to get below 350 wh/m even when driving conservatively. Is this likely because of the lack of pre-conditioning or are the pre-heat pump models just that much less efficient?

[@ThisMoth]

Hoping for an answer to this one.

[@highlanderes]

Awesome, thanks! Surprising to me that even with a V3 site 250kW capable, in cold weather the LR and P’s higher charging rate, results in about the same range per charging time. Being less efficient they will load range slower than the SR on a less capable charger.

[@maricelaandrew]

Love the numbers and the graph. Great information

[@slodose]

Great video! Keep up the good work

[@PhilT993]

Great comparison. Thank you for all the effort.

[@chuchum3]

Interesting. I've always wondered what additional efficiency my Performance could achieve by switching to 18 inch wheels

[@takuan650]

Very informative and well presented. Thank You.

[@StephenBaysted]

Excellent comparison, thanks Richard.

[@johnhorlock4580]

Great Video . Have you ever tried the model 3 performance with 18 inch standard wheels . Just a thought to see how much it does in Range John

[@MrGoogle87]

Hello, this is the best video to compare! Thanks. Can you do the same for LFP Model Y vs LR/ Performance? (Especially the 90percent vs 100% start is a good real world comparison to use again, what I liked) My old Model 3 SR non LFP also already has -13% capacity, so I'd add more degradation 5/10% after 1-3y for non LFP also

[@DarkDiyosa]

Omg! Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been debating on which one to get wether the LR or the standard but I wasn’t sure if the LR was worth it if you didn’t really get the mileage they claim you’ll get and I see that you don’t if it’s not technically at 100% charge. This was very helpful in my decision thank you again.

[@mamba8.24]

Really enjoyed that! Have you got a 2022 version of the same vid?

[@lucianb.2365]

Hello and thank you for a great video and numbers! I have a question not related to this topic, hope you could answer. I saw for a moment a side mirror with a blind spot led on. Was it a model 3? I know they don't have this but now I have hopes that starting 2022 it was added Thank you again!

[@RSEV]

No, that was bmw i4 m50 acting as camera car (and also being ranger tested!)

[@lucianb.2365]

@@RSEV all my hopes are gone 😭

[@marcelromijn2]

Good video yet again! Maybe i've missed it but how were traffic conditions? I'm assuming you had no slow traffic? just on tuesday the 11th I had a similar trip 0 degrees and 183 miles round trip with the return trip of 91 miles being a bit busier. I have the SR+ lfp, I used 83% battery on the total trip so for me i achieved a theoretical range of 220 miles and it couldve been better had i not shown off the car to a collegue where i used 3% on 5 miles ;) as i've only gotten the car 30-12 :P

[@RSEV]

Yes like I say quite easy to get this LFP more efficient. We had clear traffic so it was all 70mph, plus A43 roundabout sprints as we also tested the bmw i4 M. We weren’t hanging around at all…

[@railvlogger1439]

Before I ordered my Model 3 I was torn between the Standard and Long Range. I am unable to charge at home but I only have a 6 mile round trip to work and I pass by a Tesla Supercharger. I ended up ordering the RWD, the new name for the Standard +. Hopefully I made the right decision. Thanks for this comparison.

[@RSEV]

Standard is fine for you but for you try and charge when warmed battery (not much chance in 6 miles!) as they charge slow when cold…

[@bradhoots8547]

Wow, that’s about the most expensive way to commute 3 miles to work imaginable. You should just plug it into 120v at home.

[@railvlogger1439]

@@bradhoots8547 Impossible for me to plug in from home as I am on the 3rd floor. Car will be parked underneath the building. Apart from work I will be using the car for running around and longer weekend drives.

[@user-lp5ww5bt7w]

Very useful, nicely done, thanks a lot!

[@Emaratilfy]

Thanks for the effort as always! Just one question: is the window wiper control still cumbersome on the M3? Last time I checked, you still had to control the wipers through the touch screen which is just stupid and dangerous.

[@bartwaggoner2000]

Everything is auto these days, you have to sort of accept it.

[@RSEV]

They are auto, but button on end of left stalk wipes. It then learns how often you like it wiped.

[@Flyingjaffacake]

I got my M3LR recently and the wipers are absolutely fine. I was expecting a disaster given the complaining on forums, but if you want more or they don't kick in fast enough just press the stalk button again and it seems to up the sensitivity. Haven't needed to touch the screen yet.

[@--Nath--]

Press the button on the left stalk or hold down for spray and wipe.. Auto seems to work pretty well.. I haven't had too many complaints about it so far (and it has been a wet summer here in oz)

[@Bubblegummonsters]

I’d say for me it’s the signal that’s the most annoying thing. It always seems to stay on even when I flick it in the opposite direction.