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@tomcatt1740Ай бұрын
how long dos it take to charge a car???? IE all models
@Sal3600Ай бұрын
@@tomcatt1740 20-80% around 25-30 mins. 0-100% may take an hr.
@bartdekingАй бұрын
For anyone in the world viewing this video (apart from the stubborn US) 1. LR RWD Distance: 621.2 km Energy consumption: 128.0 Wh/km Efficiency: 7.810 km/kWh Energy used: 79.5 kWh 2. LR AWD Pan (18" wheels) Distance: 587.4 km Energy consumption: 133.6 Wh/km Efficiency: 7.486 km/kWh Energy used: 78.5 kWh 3. LR AWD LG (19" wheels) Distance: 495.7 km Energy consumption: 154.8 Wh/km Efficiency: 6.464 km/kWh Energy used: 76.7 kWh 4. Performance Distance: 463.5 km Energy consumption: 164.7 Wh/km Efficiency: 6.073 km/kWh Energy used: 76.3 kWh 5. RWD LFP Distance: 445.8 km Energy consumption: 132.4 Wh/km Efficiency: 7.556 km/kWh Energy used: 59.0 kWh
@thomasschraubt7497Ай бұрын
King
@robingrievesАй бұрын
And speed was at 113 km/h
@SunshineVocalsАй бұрын
I'm surprised the LFP and the LR AWD have basically the same consumption
@hugodeandres1497Ай бұрын
@@SunshineVocalsIm surprised SR LFP doesn’t have a smaller consumption, is a smaller battery and lighter vehicle. Shouldn’t that make it more efficient?
@jimlamparty3502Ай бұрын
In miles please
@Robert-pm6bmАй бұрын
Anyone else skip past the beginning of the video where Jordan gave the results so that you could watch the results ‘live’ as they happened?! 😂
@canieto1Ай бұрын
No
@LakusPakusАй бұрын
Im sory but Im not watching 1:31 of people just driving cars until they stop.
@cstyledАй бұрын
Nope, that was the important bit. I then just skipped to the end.
@Quickicecarreviews2Ай бұрын
I hate the summary at the beginning. They could just do a timestamp and say “reveal is at 35:55” or whatever
@SS-yw7voАй бұрын
Lame question
@GuerreropowerrАй бұрын
Alysa's deadpan delivery gets me every time lol
@ervin9805Ай бұрын
why does she sound so bored all the time
@CAINtheBULLАй бұрын
Imagine all the ideas she talks Kyle out of? Haha
@garyprice1145Ай бұрын
She is Hilarious.
@jaza23-jo6zeАй бұрын
@@ervin9805 because she dates nasilly Kyle lol...she needs a stud lol
@brandenflaschАй бұрын
Model Y lineup next!
@NextGenEvsАй бұрын
Yes please
@Robert-pm6bmАй бұрын
@@brandenflasch model y is old news
@ElectricBrianАй бұрын
5 Juniper models? With a RoboTaxi and RoboVan tossed in the mix?
@einzelkampfer2006Ай бұрын
Its stunning, how close the RWD and AWD with Panasonic batteries are. The difference is about 5%. I did not expect that! Great range test, thank you!
@coolsquad7428Ай бұрын
I think it was mostly due to drag and tuning for the awd models as it seems like the awd models where able to disconnect the front motor more often then the legecy ones which is why I think the range difference is on drag.
@friedemanngadeke8366Ай бұрын
@@coolsquad7428 The front motor cannot be disconnected. It is just running without much resistance due to no permanent magnets. But as you can see in this test it does increase consumption due to its weight and also due to more moving parts.
@jli213Ай бұрын
I skipped the early spoiler results, so video is more exciting.
@jeffs6090Ай бұрын
Happy birthday Lacey!!🎉🎉
@scotduckrow8524Ай бұрын
When Brandon pulled off the road into the weeds, I thought fire hazard, but that's how you think if you're still driving an ICE vehicle!
@dandaigle4546Ай бұрын
you guys are AWESOME, you always put a smile on my face, can't get enough of your content, what a crew
@thetinkerАй бұрын
Thanks! I really like that results up front and the way it was written on the screen helped with clarity(the car and diver labels were good too)! (Still watched the whole thing.) The difference between the 2 AWD cars was astonishing!
@fcojosedemoramoreno453527 күн бұрын
A table with results would be handly! Thanks.
@gruppefbcАй бұрын
Displaying the results on-screen is a great addition and allows for very easy comparison. Any chance of including m/kWh (to save my feeble brain) in future multi-vehicle range tests?
@mjblu8Ай бұрын
For the ones I cared about: 2024 Model 3 AWD 19" tires with LG battery: 4.15 miles/kWh 2024 Model 3 AWD 18" tires with Panasonic: 4.65 miles/kWh 2024 Model 3 RWD LR (base model now): 4.85 miles/kWh
@busog97641Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@PeaceChanelАй бұрын
Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤
@jhardy33Ай бұрын
Love the video format! If I have time I watch the entire video but now, if not, I no longer completely skip watching since you tell me the range up front. Thank you!
@GxAceАй бұрын
Legendary test! Thanks for all the hard work ;)
@evkxАй бұрын
Happy birthday Lacey! What a way to celebrate reaching 25% SOC!
@vhol93Ай бұрын
13:22 nice edit! Suggestion: add the numbers in worldwide metric KMs as (xx) !
@azizmarzАй бұрын
That lucid is amazing
@FordEnthusiast413Ай бұрын
Love it!! This is awesome!!! Thanks Kyle!
@christianorness2690Ай бұрын
That has got to be the most profitable ChargePoint station in Colorado 😂
@natehill8069Ай бұрын
Feel bad for someone getting off there to charge and seeing it full of Teslas...
@YannCavalcanteАй бұрын
Make this test with the Model Ys. Including the new 2025 LRRWD, that’s saying can make till 337miles
@mozaicАй бұрын
I love this idea, I think it would be better to wait for the refresh though
@ThatTimeTheThingHappenedАй бұрын
I’ve been craving for LR RWD test. It so impressive that it is getting than kind of range. unreal.
@4literv6Ай бұрын
360+miles of real world range 0-60mph in 4.8s, it's cheaper than an ecoboost mustang after the tax credit and a referral code at 34k+tt&L. It's also the most American made ev sedan by parts count! Go tesla&team USA! 😎👍🏻
@tylergood1223Ай бұрын
Yes!!!! Love the range tests! Lets go team LFP!
@jessereynolds7489Ай бұрын
Awesome vid! Please do more charging comparison testing with the model 3/Y, ideally include some older models too say 2019 onwards as the used market is getting very good and as you’ve proven charging speed on a road trip matters more than range
@kalpanchal6614Ай бұрын
Great testing. Rekindled my model 3 desire. LR RWD only way to travel.
@cw495327 күн бұрын
Aero, drivetrain config and tires are the main factors in efficiency. Aero should be the same except the performance has a spoiler. Testing stock tires is important since that's the most common overall car configuration, but I wonder how much is JUST from the drivetrain (single motor vs lr awd vs awd w/performance motor). Would be an interesting test to isolate the drivetrain variable by swapping all the cars with the same tire/wheel combos.
@blurglideАй бұрын
Just got a LR RWD and the range has exceeded my expectations. I did a 185 mile commute, half of which was going 80-85 mph with thousands of feet of elevation change, and it only took 51% of my battery.
@alancobbinАй бұрын
The RWD LR is truly amazing,cheers guys great video 👍😉💪
@MarsPLAYStudioАй бұрын
1:00:11 The new Model 3 and its new designed front / rear looks so good
@sydneyg007Ай бұрын
Great work! What a great comparison. All have plenty of range for long trips. The main advantage of the LR RWD is the price and the efficiency (which increases the more important factor which is charging speed).
@butoikarugaАй бұрын
a graph would of helped! :)
@garyprice1145Ай бұрын
You guys are killing it! Amazing work! Love the Model 3 too.
@robertlmoonАй бұрын
Loved seeing the M3 LR RWD vs Ioniq 6 range test. Loved this one as much or even more. Not at interstate speed on our hurricane Milton evacuation (rural roads and highways 99% of the time - max speed 65 mph and then city driving during our out of town stay) and we achieved 203 Wh/mile over 831 miles of driving my 2024 M3 LR RWD. Comfort and range were amazing, and Supercharging was convenient and painless. So glad I bought this car at the end of August. Now I'm looking forward to charging and 10% challenge test videos!
@Kyle-ei2lcАй бұрын
It's amazing how much these videos suck you in. I drive a Model 3 and still find this fascinating lol.
@SparkyShoАй бұрын
👍
@mitchellvanbijleveldАй бұрын
Best Tesla related video I’ve seen in a while.
@DennisCWАй бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!
@josephraffurty9293Ай бұрын
Can you do this video again for model y trims?
@Sluggo0127 күн бұрын
286mi.. best out of 22 m3p, 20in wheels, oh well performance kick ass
@weich1q2wАй бұрын
Great job team! The only thing that could be added would be comparison of what the BMS said the range would be at the end of the trip vs what it actually got, and how many miles at 70mph do you have after 0%. I would bet the LFP to have the least accurate reading.
@TheBowerbirdАй бұрын
This is so much fun and such an amazing test!
@leocheung2547Ай бұрын
Woah what the heck, that's one hell of a lineup 😂
@Omie334Ай бұрын
You should try running with and without FSD to compare the difference in range.
@cordkretzschmar5693Ай бұрын
I am very grateful you are doing all the range tests, for me it would be the most boring thing you can do with a car, except of waitig for a 100% Charge..
@stevomotoАй бұрын
What a fantastic comparison video. Nice work. Would love to see a similar test with the Model Y, especially with the LR RWD included.
@Mumble-s_NoodlesАй бұрын
My RWD Long Range came with Hankook Ventus standard. Took delivery 2 weeks ago.
@zachlafond2652Ай бұрын
Mine came with Michelin and just picked up a few days ago in Minnesota.
@joshuarosen465Ай бұрын
My AWD came with Michelins, picked it up in July. I was worried that it would come with the Hankooks because I saw them on a car at the Tesla store in the spring. It seems like it's a crap shoot as to what they put on the car.
@SparkyShoАй бұрын
👍👍👑
@teggy95seАй бұрын
THIS is the video I've been waiting for A++
@sombrekarmaАй бұрын
Thanks for the Video. You confirm my choice to upgrade for a RWD long range Tesla model 3. I loved my 2021 SR+ but this new car will be a blast.
@ChargingtheRoadАй бұрын
What a great testing video Kyle! I'm surprised it went further than EPA range
@bearclaw5115Ай бұрын
Well run test, that's for sure. Thanks guys!
@chyldstudiosАй бұрын
Hell yeah brother!
@Robin-es3osАй бұрын
watched the entire video but appreciate the numbers in the beginning.
@chuckhursch5374Ай бұрын
Great video! Having driven a lot back in Colorado and also here in lowland California, I would say that your wh/mi figures are going to be somewhat lower at 5000-6000’ than at sea-level, because of the thinner air. I don’t know what the percentage diff would be (one could prob theoretically calculate it), but the vehicle I have more extensive experience with at both altitudes is my ‘86 4Runner, seeing maybe about 25-28mpg at higher altitudes, and closer to ~22mpg near sea level. The diff might be 10-20%. An ICE also has more pumping loss at lower altitude.
@gerritgovaerts8443Ай бұрын
I recently posted this on top of this page before I noticed your post here : "Am I correct in assuming this test was done in Colorado ? If so , you have to take the reduction in air density due to the elevation above sea level into account . In Denver at more than 5000 ft above sea level , air density will be only 85% of that at sea level . Air drag , the biggest drag component at 70 mph , will be 15% lower . I am guessing that this will approximately result in 10% more range than if you had done the test in Florida ."
@liver.flush.maestro25 күн бұрын
I absolutely love Alissa's enthusiasm at 19:54 🤣
@ElectricBrianАй бұрын
Haha, I loved Lacey's style of celebrating her birthday. No going to the club getting drunk, but driving 5 hours to nowhere.
@ReddylionАй бұрын
Nice
@lyfandethАй бұрын
Many 1980's Japanese cars intentionally had "terrorist" gas gauges. When they said DEAD EMPTY and the FUEL NOW light came on, the car usually had 75-100 miles of range left. Apparently they felt that drivers couldn't handle the truth.
@CanditoTrainingHQАй бұрын
Up to 100 miles hidden is insane lmao. I'd understand 25-50, but 100 I'd be upset.
@Heartless_13224Ай бұрын
With how efficient the long Long range rear-wheel drive is and with the discontinuation of the lfp pack, maybe they can reintroduce the standard range panasonic pack like they had in 2019. With the efficiency of the new model 3, coupled with a 60kwh panasonic NMC, it could get range comparative to LFP and qualify for the tax credit. That is assuming they can't manufacture the lfp pack in the US price competitively.
@4literv6Ай бұрын
It would drop about 200# as well as the 55kwh pana m3s we're as low as 3,540# vs the lfp are about 3,820# 🤔👍🏻
Thank God the tan pants are still in the rotation. I had not seen them for a while and, truthfully, I was fearful.
@OutofSpecVesselАй бұрын
Alyssa's acting impressed with Kyle's electric car deep dive is pretty convincing, even though I'm pretty sure she's lost.
@gidmorson668Ай бұрын
Awesome video and amazing results the Highland is an absolutely great car… Guess it’s time to upgrade my 2018 M3 AWD…
@JorJorBinks123Ай бұрын
I got the model 3 long range RWD And there are so many squeaks and rattles and clunks in my car. I hope no other ones have the same problem.
@brunocordeiro3306Ай бұрын
Cheers from Portugal. Great vídeo 👍 congrats
@ferchizzleАй бұрын
When’s the charismatic Lacey getting her own show?!?!?!
@SparkyShoАй бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@gameover-tp7ieАй бұрын
Awesome content guys, keep it up ! What about modely LR RWD? will you guys be doing a similar test with all modelys 2023+ ? :)
@TwistdJackАй бұрын
I live in Wyoming and drive a 2022 long range AWD....Most travelling is done on the interstate between 80 and 85 mph, and sometimes below 0 degrees F, and always windy. My cars lifetime average is 288 wh/mi. and is regularly 300 - 400 wh/mi. It would be nice to see some real world testing in similar situations. These slow 70 mph tests don't tell me much. Hopefully one day Tesla will make a car that I can drive over 250 miles in my state.
@tazeatАй бұрын
It's all the tires! Tires eat your range, even the perf if you COULD put those aeros wouldn't be far off the other aero numbers. So it just comes down to, do you want sticky tires or not. In the perf trim, probably sticky imo....
@weich1q2wАй бұрын
Hot take: The long range should be the "standard range" and then the long range that has a 70mph range of at least 500 miles even with "sport" wheels
@HasanBBoyBronxАй бұрын
thanks for the results in the beginning. i still watch the whole video tho
@Rei_n1Ай бұрын
Thanks for the early summary!
@hieyeque1Ай бұрын
I would like to see a range test with a full load of cargo. Like simulating a road trip with a family. I think all that would be necessary is pick one car, see the losses and extrapolate that out to other models. My wife takes our RWD LFP (272 mi) with 3 kids all the time. We're averaging 253 whr/mile after 19k miles, which brings the car (if you calculate a 57kwhr battery - excluding the buffer) - to roughly 225 miles. This is pretty much what we get. I always say, it's basically a 200 to 220 mile car.
@darryljohnson1985Ай бұрын
Wow, what an amazing video, I know which model 3 to purchase now, thanks
@GSRiderАй бұрын
Could you add Km and WH/Km in your next videos ? thanks
@tilc_Ай бұрын
Yes please. Would watch more of your videos, but the miles are annoying.
@weich1q2wАй бұрын
Model | EPA Range (km) | Tested Range (km) | Efficiency (Wh/km) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Performance | 487.63 | 463.49 | 164.66 SR RWD (LFP) | 437.74 | 445.79 | 132.35 LR RWD | 584.19 | 621.21 | 128.00 LR AWD (PAN) | 548.78 | 587.41 | 133.59 LR AWD (LG) | 490.85 | 495.68 | 154.72
@weich1q2wАй бұрын
Model | EPA Range (km) | Tested Range (km) | Efficiency (Wh/km) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Performance | 487.63 | 463.49 | 164.66 SR RWD (LFP) | 437.74 | 445.79 | 132.35 LR RWD | 584.19 | 621.21 | 128.00 LR AWD (PAN) | 548.78 | 587.41 | 133.59 LR AWD (LG) | 490.85 | 495.68 | 154.72
@matthewp1682Ай бұрын
You cant do a simple conversion?
@mrstinky2421Ай бұрын
This is America!
@JoelKleppingerАй бұрын
Did they have the same tires? It's possible the tire differences could be as great or greater than the wheel differences.
@SparkyShoАй бұрын
One continental 18” one Michelin 19”
@Blade70Ай бұрын
Excellent test! Tesla is hiring LFP manufacturing positions. LFP is definitely making a comeback because they test it on Model 3 and Y before putting it in the CyberCab.
@ErikSebringАй бұрын
I'd love to see this exact same tes repeated with all the acceleration modes set to standard! Great to see that if you baby a tesla in chill mode you can exceed range, but I'd like to see a real world range test with additional efficiency lowering factors in play
@veronicathecowАй бұрын
Useful video, many thanks, would be interested to see this with new model Y.
@S2kDude3622 күн бұрын
I've owned both the 2019 M3P and now the 2024 M3P, the range difference between the old and new cars is significant, but what's hurting the range on the 2024 is the Pirelli PZero tires. They are noisy, rough riding and not as efficient as Michelin PS4S that Tesla was using on the previous generation Performance model. I'd bet just changing the tires would get another 15 miles of range on a full charge, which would then meet the EPA range.
@wesleypulkka7447Ай бұрын
Nice job guys and gals!
@RJ-nk9wbАй бұрын
OoS Rocks!!! 🔥One of the best Car review channels out there 👏😊
@darinbrazil5496Ай бұрын
These range tests are great. I feel like destination range tests could be more beneficial although much more time consuming and difficult. I live in California so the destinations are different from Colorado but popular destinations in California are SF, Sacramento, Stockton, Modesto, Tracy, LA to South Lake Tahoe or North Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, Monterey, Santa Cruz, Pismo, and Im sure there are more I am not thinking of. The benefit of destinations is you know wether your vehicle can make the round trip without charging or not and thus relieving the potential driver of any worries of charging in the time we are in with chargers being les plentiful as they need to be. This is the question I get the most from my brother who still drives gas which is could we make it to Tahoe and back without charging? He lives in SF so it's a bit of a drive to Tahoe. I feel like the Max pack Rivian could make it or a Lucid or the Chevy Silverado and GMC Denali but other than that not sure anything else could do the round trip form SF to Tahoe.
@anishyeedibilli328212 күн бұрын
29:51 jordan did not realize that the cybertruck was kyle 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@CloxxkiАй бұрын
Semi trucks going 75-80 mph...imagine the wreck when it happens! In Europe they are allowed 50 and go 55 max.
@SpottedSharksАй бұрын
Lots of vids out there of such wrecks. It's horrific.
@rajanpatel65Ай бұрын
In the U.K. Heavy Goods Vehicles (HGVs = Semi trucks) are allowed up to 56mph.
@Cowcow211Ай бұрын
I appreicate that you give the results at the start. But can you do a typical "If you don't want to know the results, 'look away now'." Or just a skip to timestamp.
@TB-up4xiАй бұрын
If anyone is interested in the conversions In order of distance covered: RWD LFP 213wh/mi = 4.695 mi/kwh for 277 mi = 59.0kWh used Performance 265wh/mi = 3.774 mi/kwh for 288mi = 76.3kwh used LR AWD LG (19" wheels) 249wh/mi = 4.016 mi/kwh for 308mi = 76.7kwh used LR AWD Pan (18" wheels) 215wh/mi = 4.651mi/kwh for 365mi = 78.5kwh used LR RWD 206wh/mi = 4.854mi/kwh for 386mi = 79.5 kwh used Interesting that based on the wh/mi and the total distance the theoretical size of the panasonic packs varies between 76.3kwh and 79.5kwh based on the wh/mi and distance covered - wonder if they all mearure the wh/mi correctly.
@boostavАй бұрын
That explains why the Performance fell short, with a brand new pack (79-80kWh) it would be right around that EPA number.
@TB-up4xiАй бұрын
@@boostav From what I gathered in the video the car was basically new
@boostavАй бұрын
@@TB-up4xi 76kWh is definitely not normal for a brand new Panasonic pack
@ScottWerkemaАй бұрын
I wonder how much the color difference in the LR AWD versions factored in? Our friends have a White MYP while we have a Midnight Silver MYP. When we roadtrip together, they always get better efficiency when the sun is up. Maybe do a range test of all LR AWD Panasonic in different colors.
@Valencia_MediaАй бұрын
That performance model is a let down for me. I want the performance but doesn't make sense to get it over the LR, at least for me, since I drive so much which means less supercharger usage and time saved.
@MethnerjacobАй бұрын
you can just get more aero wheels and efficient tires and it will probably get much closer to the AWD LR model's range
@GenghisGamingАй бұрын
Theres a chance he kept it in insane mode the whole time. Insane mode will keep the battery hotter so it has more performance. And really if you home charge its not a problem. If you are road tripping you can either go for the long range or get performance and put some lightweight 18in wheels on with a high efficiency tire and probably get 340-350 miles of range
@teslasnekАй бұрын
My first KZbin video was a 5 way efficiency test of all the pre-highland Model 3's lol 😄
@sxucy360hzАй бұрын
I’m sure they all didn’t make it to epa. Rwd lfp prob came closest to it tho
@teslasnekАй бұрын
@@sxucy360hz You should watch the video 😁 My 2022 Model 3 Performance beat it's EPA range by 8% due to my aftermarket 19" Aero wheels 😎
@sxucy360hzАй бұрын
@@teslasnek awesome
@Mobile_DomАй бұрын
a 50-60kWh LFP model 3 SR with US made LFP cells would be very interesting
@michaelrudolf5132Ай бұрын
Great video 👍!
@NextGenEvsАй бұрын
Great video!
@MisterPoАй бұрын
Awesome! Would we happen to know if the LR RWD is an LG or Panasonic battery? Not sure if I missed it in the video.
@moorebid_Ай бұрын
Panasonic; the only LG battery was the LR AWD with 19" sport wheels.
@MisterPoАй бұрын
@@moorebid_ ah cool, thanks!
@johnwahl1988Ай бұрын
Great fun and info. Thanks.
@ojliseАй бұрын
IT would be great to to use the exact same wheels and tires on all the Model 3, to really see where the efficiency differences are. We know that the 20 inch wheels on the Performance hurts its range compared to the 18 Aero wheels on some other car. I've seen other put 18 inch wheels on their M3P and get way over 300 miles.
@cnewt00Ай бұрын
Are the Aero caps on the performance model?
@mikayel18ifyАй бұрын
You should make a nice little table with numbers in the end, would be more accessible
@voldar70Ай бұрын
Great video, but can you teach the guy who drive the Performance (Brandon I think) that what he sees in the UI is NOT the range left ?!?
@rhackenb1Ай бұрын
Wish list: 1. Why can't all Teslas be 'rescue vehicles'? 2. Why don't all Teslas have a 120 AC outlet?
@SpottedSharksАй бұрын
Maybe the y refresh will have a surprise
@owerobbiАй бұрын
Love how the model three at the end was summoned away from Kyle😂