NEW Traxxas JATO 4x4 1/8 Scale Buggy Revealed!

[@TheMitsosBlog]

My Typhon 3S can't stop laughing.

[@DoRC]

:)

[@richiesavino9653]

😂😂😂 💯💯💯

[@roadrunnerorange]

Why is traxxas sooooo late on this stuff??? They should have jumped on this years ago when ppl were converting slash 4x4's into 1/8 buggies or when the typhon 3s came out🤦

[@roadrunnerorange]

Only 2s🤣💀

[@nicko2222]

@@TheMitsosBlog that doesn’t sound normal. bros got a haunted typhon

[@mitsuman5555]

Great option for folks who like paying the Traxxas tax. The Corally Syncro4 buggy can be had for $329 at most retailers, which gets you a 4S system and a lot more metal.

[@DoRC]

Yeah this one feels like a particularly tough sell for me. There are already a lot of really good 1/8 scale buggies out there.

[@richardlacroix9069]

Goto the hobby shop and get parts for that corally. Oh wait, they dont have any.

[@richardlacroix9069]

@@DoRC keeping these rigs running is the whole hobby for me. And traxxas makes that possible.

[@DoRC]

@@richardlacroix9069 Yeah if you have to get your parts locally that's going to be a problem but these days I feel like most people buy their parts online and TC parts, while not as widespread, are readily available online.

[@mitsuman5555]

For anyone who can’t figure out online shopping there’s also the Typhon BLX which is 3S capable and $329. As an added bonus it’s almost completely plastic, which should make Traxxas guys feel right at home 😂

[@django2467]

Syncro 4 looking real good right about now lol

[@matthewhendrickson4209]

My first thought after hearing the price, haha

[@DoRC]

Yep

[@politie_jip112]

@@matthewhendrickson4209 me after hearing its only 2s if it was a vxl system for that price then its quite good

[@kevinrogers8352]

I agree. I have the Syncro4, and it's a great buggy for the price. The 3s Typhon is also great for $329.99

[@RaiuAdami]

That's no Jato. IT'S A BACKSLASH

[@voodooreptiles3553]

That's no moon, it's a space station!

[@DoRC]

It be what they say it be :-)

[@richardlacroix9069]

Absolutely. Our Rep totally calls ita backslash on the downlow haha

[@RustybeltRC]

More like a Bandit 4x4

[@mikehansen9898]

Agreed.

[@Patricio711]

When I first heard of this I was kind of hoping Traxxas was releasing something that could be run along 1/8th buggies. Glad I didn't wait for the release and bought myself a proper racing buggy.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I don't think this is going to be doing serious racing without some modifications.

[@malsmith2012]

Surely the Corally buggies leave this thing for dead..

[@DoRC]

Yes and no. I think they represent far better value for money but there are plenty of people who won't buy the TC cars simply because of perceived parts availability issues and potential lack of upgrades.

[@boostfrog]

@@DoRC To be fair there really is a lack of parts availability if you prefer to do all your purchasing through a local hobby shop and not online. But even then, the Typhon is like, right there.

[@malsmith2012]

@@DoRC Hi mate, that may have been the case a year or so ago but now you can buy direct off Corally with 9.95 euros shipping world wide. I'm in Australia and a couple years back they wanted near on 20 euros for shipping a few of those red countersunk anodised washers they have on the underside of the chassis.. I and many others wrote complaining about the high shipping and they finally did something about it.. Two weeks ago Corally sent me all the new parts free after my 6 pack old Asuga did a front bearing on the input pinion in the rear diff. Destroyed the case, pinion, ring gear... 7 days later all the parts were in my hands free of charge..( gearbox case, new bearings, pinion and ring gear) Their support is absolutely fantastic and IMO is certainly miles better than horizon here in Australia. They treat us like third rate citizens...

[@WowoodogPlays]

JUST CALL IT A BANDIT 4x4 CMON TRAXXAS!!

[@DoRC]

Yeah I'm guessing the Jato is going away and they didn't want to waste the name

[@WowoodogPlays]

@@DoRC there is a chance it will be the same story as the hoss, where it did not sell well so they renamed it. I sure hope they do

[@SoundStream101]

I was just gonna say this! 😂.

[@DoRC]

@@SoundStream101 Yeah I guess they don't want the Jato name to go to waste.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@DoRC it’s not going to waste! Jato is still today one of the fastest RTR nitros on sale today. Damn thing still does 60+ and can absolutely keep up with some 3S electrics. I’ve got a Jato and it’s my favorite nitro! 2nd gear wheelies are simply intoxicating

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

I don't understand Traxxas. Arrma just came out with the Grom line in 3S. And you have the Vorteks, Big Rock, Typhon 3S. It just seems like Traxxas just keeps coming out with subpar rigs. Riding the coat tails of the XMaxx.

[@DoRC]

Well I think the BL2S is their replacement for the brushed cars which makes sense except for the price. Unless the price I saw was wrong 350 is wildly out of touch based on the competition.

[@Wanted1069]

@DoRC I think their in was to cheap out on the electronics and made it 1/8 scale to make it an easier sale. (I wouldn't buy one) But given their track record of cheating out, I seriously believe this is just another hype buy...

[@MTMskate1]

Being that the Jato was originally a mid motor 2wd Stadium truck, they should have just done that and call this the Bandit 4x4

[@DoRC]

I suspect they're discontinuing the nitro version and wanted to differentiate this from the bandit given that the bandit is the cheapest car they offer.

[@mybusiness6125]

All the performance of a brushed entry level car at a brushless premium price. What a deal....

[@DoRC]

Lol. Yeah

[@tdstone5630]

Problem is Traxxas fanboys will line up to waste there money on this.

[@bkfracing8025]

Great job breaking it down. You do a great job on everything you do brother happy rcing 🤘🏽🏁

[@DoRC]

Thanks Glad you enjoyed!

[@fusion82]

Another 4x4 slash named jato lol. Looks good though

[@DoRC]

Yep

[@seanconnolly2179]

I’m curious as to why it switched to a buggy when it used to be Stadium truck?

[@DoRC]

My guess is that they are going to be retiring the Jato nitro and rather than have the name go away they're moving it over to this vehicle.

[@aaronschmitt2120]

It's a slash 4x4 lcg chassis, like on the slash ultimate or the fiesta rally, the chassis side of the clipless system also looks like it's off the fiesta

[@DoRC]

Kind of but not quite. The basic chassis layout is the same but the chassis itself is different. The clip system is similar to the fiesta but Again not the same.

[@RCPoor]

It's cool looking but is it only 3s on a 1/8? Gotta have a 6s capable rig to make me happy.

[@DoRC]

2s

[@janus4002]

​@@DoRCThat's even worse

[@jimmyc8329]

Would you be willing to reply with the list of upgrades to make it 3s? Please. I would be happy with the 3s also.

[@DoRC]

If you want to go more power I'd recommend just waiting and getting the VXL version. If you want to make this 3S you would really just need to pick your 3S power system of choice probably a 10 BL 120 combo and then get a new pinion gear for the 5 mm shaft.

[@ruuster83]

Cool! A Typhon 2s ...Lmao

[@DoRC]

Pretty much :-)

[@Havingoneofthosedays-]

@@DoRCwhy a2S system? Ohhh maybe get it in the indoor carpet tracks?

[@DoRC]

@@Havingoneofthosedays- I doubt it. I don't think this is being marketed toward racers. This is purely a basher buggy and I suspect they think the two US system is good enough. I don't know though

[@1Sik1500]

Held one today at my local hobby shop. It’s going to be awesome.

[@DoRC]

I'll be curious to see how it does with the power system.

[@nursinggerm2009]

The springs appear to be jato accessory spring rates too

[@DoRC]

Definitely could be.

[@freyjaslittlejeeps1602]

2s and 1/8 scale? Did Traxxas get into my medicine cabinet again?

[@DoRC]

Does seem a little odd.

[@freyjaslittlejeeps1602]

@@DoRC I never raced 1/8 scale, just Slash 4x4 only SCT and 2wd buggy, but isn't 1/8th a 6s class?

[@DoRC]

@freyjaslittlejeeps1602 typically 4S but I don't think this is being positioned as a race car. This is pretty squarely aimed at bashers.

[@freyjaslittlejeeps1602]

@@DoRC Because they're known for only wanting to run 2s :P

[@DoRC]

For sure. I think that this should have been VXL especially for the price but they didn't ask me :-)

[@frankiep2314]

It does look pretty sick, though. I will give them that awesome video and stay safe

[@DoRC]

It's a good looking buggy!

[@funknunkl]

Considering the spike of new and super amazing RC hobby stuff on the market this looks toy grade

[@DoRC]

Yeah I think it'll be a good car as Traxxas does generally tend to release good stuff but at 350 it's pretty expensive

[@YoungWide]

this is quite cool I wonder if that rear wing mount can be used on a normal car within this platform or if it exclusive to this model?

[@DoRC]

That's definitely something people will have to play around with. I'm sure there will be some interchangeability though the chassis and bulkheads do look at least somewhat unique.

[@rc4kicks]

3:35 This is a extendet Traxxas rustler 4x4 vxl shassi!

[@DoRC]

Sort of. All of the 3S line Traxxas cars share similar chassis. I don't think this is going to be identical to any of them though of course it will have a lot in common with them.

[@frankiep2314]

Awesome video might have to get one and stay safe✌️

[@DoRC]

Thanks you too :-)

[@nick_stag]

do you think that 17mm hex will be viable conversion for the raptor r or anymore of the suspension perhaps hopefully

[@DoRC]

Almost certainly. It's possible that the hubs are different but it's more likely that they design the axles to work with the hubs. I'll know more when the official release occurs and I can look at part numbers.

[@nick_stag]

@DoRC that would be great. I hope it will all swap over

[@DoRC]

@nick_stag Yeah it would be weird if it didn't. It makes more sense for them to use parts that they already have. Stay tuned though I'll have a video out soon :-)

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Looks like it has new bulkheads and new arms and new shock towers too. Those shocks look like plastic body GTR shocks kinda like the ACTUAL Jato.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I think there's going to be a lot of new parts on here. The basic design and layout is the same as the 3S trucks but I'm guessing there will be very few actual identical part numbers

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@DoRC they should have called it the Bandit 4x4 the name is right there!

[@Hobz79]

This is probably going to sit in the Arrma MEGA market, with a higher power one released later to compete against the brushless Typhons/Syncros

[@DoRC]

Yeah spec wise I agree but price wise it does not.

[@Hobz79]

​@@DoRC oh, wow, yeah, I missed the price in your video!

[@peteroosterhoff8850]

Was bit distracted during this video... Three words kept hanging... Traxxas, disappointing, expensive... Thats a good summary 😂

[@DoRC]

Yeah that wraps it up for most people I think.

[@peteroosterhoff8850]

@@DoRC i highly doubt that. Almost every hobbyshop is traxxas dealer now in my country. They still have enough customers that don't know because they are new to the hobby. So i need to buy most off my stuff abroad, but rather that then buying a traxxas...

[@DoRC]

@@peteroosterhoff8850 I meant most people watching the video. Yes of course there are still plenty of people that are going to buy it otherwise Traxxas wouldn't be making it. If there's one thing they know how to do it's make money :-)

[@peteroosterhoff8850]

@@DoRC i'm with you with that one. You have to give them some credits (not too much) for taking over the rc market... Bin to a shop while ago and drive that mudboss, guy had it in just few hours and was testing it. Laught my balls off, what a crappy handling truck. Jeah, needs bit off this and that guy said. There you go, few bucks here and there. Told my serpent would eat that thing for breakfast and supper and everything in between and afterwards. Unfortunately the shop is not very nearby because i would have loved to give him a demonstration off a real good handling rc car... 😁

[@randyaguililla6963]

Am I missing something here? How is a 1/8 scale anything being released with only 2S?

[@DoRC]

That's a good question.

[@tdstone5630]

Just another converted Slash, you know Traxxas like recycling parts into “new” rc.

[@mikehansen9898]

As far as names go, Traxxas really missed here. Why didn't they name it the Back Slash?

[@DoRC]

Maybe they wanted to avoid getting in trouble with someone like they did with the mud boss :-)

[@mikehansen9898]

@@DoRC that makes sense.

[@Maxinator_RC]

This thing looks epic! I really like the styling, but I guess that’s not going to be in my “to buy” list :))

[@DoRC]

Yeah and if it were a hundred or maybe even $50 cheaper I think it would be a pretty sweet deal but it's pretty expensive for what you're getting.

[@Maxinator_RC]

@ yep, totally agree

[@michaelgraham2943]

Can't wait for the nitro model 😁

[@DoRC]

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[@michaelgraham2943]

@@DoRC 😂👍

[@roadrunnerorange]

Gonna be waiting😅

[@TrouserSnake69]

Nitroooooo

[@Bhase425]

Finally! a 1/8 buggy from Traxxas But one thing I'm a little bummed out about is it just looks like a rehashed/ 4x4 underneath

[@DoRC]

Yeah it's pretty much the same 3S platform under the hood but in some ways that's a good thing. That platform has undergone a lot of changes and refinement over the years.

[@Bhase425]

@@DoRC yeah for sure. The Traxxas/4x4 chassis is well known for its strength I was just hoping they'll make it look a bit more like a buggy underneath like how they did with the Sledge and the xrt

[@Bhase425]

Well actually not the xrt The xrt chassis is basically an x-max chassis but a couple gearing changes and a bit wider

[@1980VINZ]

It looks tiny for a 1:8 scale I bet it’s a non-conventional 1:10, kind of 1:10 with big wheels. I don’t really understand where Traxxas is going with this model but we will see… I’m interested by the new shocks btw. Can be a nice cheap upgrade for Slash/Stampede/Bandit… Thanks a lot for the scoop !!!! You rock. 🫡

[@DoRC]

Maybe so. They do definitely like unconventional things. I suspect it will be a 1/8th scale buggy as 1/8 scale buggies are pretty much the same size as 1/10 scale everything else.

[@NikkiNexo777]

This looks like hot garbage. The BLS 2s motor is a joke for 4x4. At least put in the Maxx 4s motor, adjustable turnbuckles, and GTR shocks. Corally and the Typhon are better options. Traxxas dropped the ball on this one.

[@DoRC]

I think for their target market it's mostly okay. I just think the price is too high. The majority of people that are going to buy this will be bashers and most bashers aren't going to be adjusting things. I do think that it either needed to have the VXL system in it or not be 350

[@UnrivaledPiercer]

As someone who owns quite a few Traxxas vehicles, this seems like a strange amalgamation of ideas. People did the 1/8 buggy idea already with the Slash, and to be perfectly honest, I think the Backslash is going to be the better buggy. Start with a LCG 4x4 Slash and go from there. This new buggy has some interesting ideas, but the design seems rather wrong. It's very hard to tell what they were actually trying to do. It's not a race buggy, but also has some weird design choices for a basher. It's not "in between" but at the same time looks like it will accel at neither.

[@mybusiness6125]

Agreed. No adjustability for racing. Poor performance for bashing. Premium price. I don't get it.

[@DoRC]

I think it's going to be a decent basher but in the 1/8 scale buggy market it's pretty expensive for what you're getting. That being said Traxxas charges more than most manufacturers in pretty much every segment and they still sell a lot of cars

[@2down4up]

1/8th scale? Maybe it’s cause I’m watching on my phone but that looks much more 1/10th scale to me. I’m curious to see how the inevitable Velinion model performs.

[@DoRC]

1/8 scale buggies are basically the same size as 1/10 scale everything else. The wheelbase on the 1/10 scale slash is nearly identical to a standard 1/8 scale buggy wheelbase. It's possible it will be smaller but given that and the fact that it has 17 mm hexes I expect it to be a standard 1/8 scale buggy.

[@2down4up]

@ Oh ok that makes sense, I actually didn’t realize that. All my 1/8th buggies are old nitro cars. I admit I’m surprised by the 17mm hex but Traxxas and others do offer 12-17mm hex conversions. I’m actually running them on my Hoss/Maxx/Raptor R mash up. So far they’ve been really good.

[@DoRC]

@2down4up it'll be interesting to see if they're using those same adapters or if they're using a different stub shaft. I'm guessing it's going to be a different stub shaft.

[@tdstone5630]

VXL will overheat like any other VXL and need to be upgraded. Just because they change tires and body doesn’t mean any of the other Traxxas issues go away.

[@NoodlesNJ1]

My loval Hobbyshop has the Jato in Stock

[@DoRC]

Nice!

[@KnockedSoup]

Bold move as 1/8 buggies are probably the most saturated car in the market but hopefully it will help some people get into some race kits!

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@KnockedSoup for real. Last thing we need is yet another buggy.

[@DoRC]

Yeah especially when there are options like the TC syncro.

[@marasiganchannel72]

That looks awesome scale bro👍👍👍

[@DoRC]

It is a good looking car.

[@Curly21029]

Controversial take? I love this platform. The used Rustler I bought has been a Stampede, a Slash, and everything in between. A couple bucks at Jennys RC and about 15 mins is all you need. The most brain dead simple wrenching platform and it’ll always be up and running because your LHS will have anything you could possibly break. So yeah, I’ll be grabbing the parts I need when this drops to give myself another option because why not?

[@DoRC]

I don't think liking this platform is necessarily controversial. It's been around a long time and it's pretty mature. A lot of people have had a lot of fun with 3S Traxxas cars. I just think that this particular vehicle is underspect and overpriced.

[@Curly21029]

@ underspeced and overpriced is kind of a Traxxas staple. Not hating because I obviously own a few and have my eye on the Mini Maxx but… yeah. 😂

[@marioledesma4014]

It looks cool. That's about it lol. I'll wait for the mini max

[@DoRC]

I'm definitely looking forward to that!

[@nwirc]

I'll buy one only if it was available in a 3.3 nitro.

[@DoRC]

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[@nwirc]

@@DoRC I'm not lol. Just had to throw it out their.

[@DoRC]

@@nwirc Yeah It would be cool!

[@trullmann]

Calling this thing a Jato is a crime, and adding a 2s system adds injury to the offense. 🤣

[@DoRC]

I think rather than just letting the name die repurposing it is worthwhile but 2S does seem a little silly

[@trullmann]

@@DoRC The Jato name should die with honor if they discontinue the nitro line, not a disgrace to the name. This company has no true creativity.

[@DoRC]

@@trullmann maybe so but these days there are probably more people in the hobby that have never seen the Jato than have.

[@trullmann]

@@DoRC Creating a lame excuse for Traxxas is lame itself. Most of the comments about this new vehicle with that name are pretty much all the same. 👎 They're creativity is in the toilet, most buyers are aware of this. Many KZbinrs don't even like running their vehicles anymore they stick with Arrma and other vehicles.

[@Hungrybird474]

2s powa 😮

[@DoRC]

Seems a little underwhelming for the price

[@johnwindsor9069]

Sorry, 17mm hexes doesn't make it 1/8th. Especially considering its powered by a BL2s system. Traxxas could have used a shorter Sledge chassis, and their 4s system for a true 1/8 buggy. It should be called Bandit 4x4.

[@DoRC]

Its size will determine its scale. The reason I was mentioning the 17mm hexes because pretty much all 1/8 scale buggies have 17 mm hexes. This is due to the fact that 1/8th scale buggy wheels have 17 mm hexes. I think it's very unlikely that this thing will be any scale other than 1/8 given that it has 17 mm hexes.

[@johnwindsor9069]

@@DoRC Don't get me wrong Traxxas is smart for using 17mm instead of 12mm, or 14 mm. Arrma's 1/10 4s Kraton BLX and 1/10 4s Outcast BLX all use 17mm hex for durability. Hopefully more info will drop as to scale, and to what audience it's targeting.

[@DoRC]

@@johnwindsor9069 they do but those are almost small 1/8 scale cars. I could be wrong about the scale of this but I've never seen a 1/10 scale buggy with 17 mm hexes and I've never seen a 1/8 scale buggy with anything but 17 mm hexes. I would be very surprised if this wasn't 1/8 scale

[@iainlee4680]

Just get a syncro 4, you will not regret it.

[@DoRC]

It certainly offers more for the money out of the box.

[@Strungrat]

I would be more interested if it was an official backslash.

[@DoRC]

Well other than the name it pretty much is

[@V8chump]

Surely there will be a true brushless version…. Bl2s systems feel like more robust brushed systems

[@DoRC]

I would imagine so though with a $350 price tag for this one The 3S versions going to be pretty astronomical.

[@Boltboy-kh7yw]

​520 according to my hobby shop It ships in February

[@V8chump]

@@Boltboy-kh7yw 520 is a pretty good price assuming it’s 4s… TLR typhon is $100 more so assuming it has some more tunability and decent electronics. I assume it’ll be 3s though so that’s still sort of competitive with something like the losi DBPRO

[@Boltboy-kh7yw]

​@V8chump no it's 3s 520...for 3s ...as a traxxas fan I think need to stop sniffing paint

[@V8chump]

@@Boltboy-kh7yw losi DBpro is $500 for a 3s truck but yea… it’s a bit more… pretty than the traxxas 🤣 I will say my DBpro has drivetrain issues though so 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@EJ-74]

Does it have a center diff ?

[@DoRC]

Unfortunately we don't know yet.

[@n00b247]

BL-2S in 1/8 Scale? Highly unlikely. 3:18 I would like for Traxxas 1/10 shocks with progressive springs to stay.

[@DoRC]

1/8 not 1/18th and based on the wheel hexes this is going to be one eighth scale. I've never seen a 1/10 scale buggy with 17 mm hexes

[@n00b247]

@@DoRC sorry. 1/8 yes. fixed

[@JmanRc]

Looks kinda cool 😎 👌...

[@DoRC]

It's definitely a good looking buggy!

[@SoundStream101]

Possibly NITRO JATO 4x4 in the near future? 🤔😎

[@DoRC]

I find that highly unlikely. This platform is not set up for nitro and I suspect this is being called the Jato because the nitro version is going to be retired.

[@SoundStream101]

@@DoRC that kind of sucks cuz the JATO is literally like one of the fastest two wheel drive Nitros that were ever manufactured imo .. I'm sure they know what they're doing more than I do running RC business. 🤣🤣

[@DoRC]

@@SoundStream101 Yeah unfortunately nitro is pretty much dying so it's unlikely it would be profitable for them to put more money into it.

[@TheEgb18c]

I still want one 😅😊

[@DoRC]

Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure plenty of people will buy them and plenty of people will enjoy them

[@kashmurray1199]

I dislike Traxxas using the JATO name for this buggy. Since the JATO was a 2 speed nitro truck. At least they kept the Stampede in the truck family. Not to mention the money you'll have to spend to keep up with their competition.

[@DoRC]

I suspect the nitro version is going away which is why they used the name. As far as keeping up with the competition it seems like this is being marketed purely as a basher given the lack of adjustability so it probably won't spend much time on a track

[@nursinggerm2009]

The shock design isn’t new. Jatos used to ( maybe they still do, I dunno) have plastic Gtr shocks

[@DoRC]

Similar yes but they don't look identical and the lower spring perches are definitely different.

[@Macgyver46]

2S 1/8 scale buggy makes little sense to me. Would have liked to see Traxxas try and compete in track racing with this but its just a basher.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I don't think this thing's designed for the track

[@Project2501ThePuppetMaster]

Looks like a mad wagon from kyosho

[@DoRC]

A little bit but the Mad wagon uses that center spine as a significant source of strength and I think that the brace we're seeing here is more of an accessory style thing as it's using the same chassis as the rest of the 3S line many of which don't have a brace from the factory.

[@andyb9994]

pretty cool overall, but not really a fan of the BL2-S system, especially in a cool new buggy!!

[@DoRC]

Yeah at the price It's a bit of a head scratcher

[@AddamsPlayground]

LOL! Late to the party, reusing an old retired names on both the buggy and the tires, only 2s, still refusing to use industry standard plugs or use adjustable battery hold downs and priced more than the Typhon.... I mean what's not to love LOL!!! Yup not going to even entertain this one, I'll stick with ARRMA.

[@DoRC]

Yeah it's hard to argue with that stuff. I think it's going to be a tough thing to justify for a lot of people.

[@billzkustomz]

Nice backslash

[@DoRC]

Pretty much :-)

[@onemansvideos2134]

Slash lcg😂😂😂.....would of been cool if it was the Maxx platform

[@DoRC]

That would be awesome!

[@brennanlindermuth4801]

The plastic gtr shocks aren't new. They use them on the jato 3.3 nitro car. And the chassis looks to be the same or very similar to the rally car or slash ultimate edition chassis. However, this one does have the new center drive shaft cover/ center brace. If only traxxas would keep the bl2s in lower budget cars. This car should be vxl out of the box. I think they'll release a vxl edition layer like they did with the clipless rally car.

[@V8chump]

They have threaded collars though, is that not new? Still not thrilled but

[@brennanlindermuth4801]

@V8chump they could be a new version. The jato has threaded gtr shocks. Threaded bodies and collars. I was hoping for some color matching aluminum gtr shocks and vxl system but ya can't have everything I guess

[@DoRC]

They do look similar but the lower spring purchases are definitely updated. The chassis is similar to all of the 3S cars though there are quite a few small and a few major differences.

[@brennanlindermuth4801]

​@DoRC I figured they'd be somewhat updated as they have been updating parts. I wish they would've updated the battery tray to use something similar as the Hoss, New Stampede 4x4 vxl, and Rustler 4x4. Anyway I'm still really excited to get a Jato 4x4. Definitely making it vxl at some point

[@macmccartney5760]

Im honestly surprised its not more . We are talking about traxxas.

[@DoRC]

Maybe but it's already quite a bit more than the other BL2S trucks.

[@PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

@@macmccartney5760 lately Traxxas prices have actually been decent for some of their new stuff

[@rcsmith5909]

Get rid of the ultra shocks, please Traxxas🙏👻🥳

[@DoRC]

Yeah hopefully Will end up on the rest of the 3S line eventually.

[@MrMagicMike93]

I don’t get why they gonna call it a jato

[@DoRC]

I'm guessing because they're going to be discontinuing the nitro one and they didn't want the name to just disappear. It also makes sense to not call it a bandit when the bandit is Traxxas is cheapest car and this is a pretty expensive one.

[@ninthislandrc]

I think a LOT of people (myself, included) are going to be disappointed with this. Only 2S? No sway bars included? There are other 'problems' with this, but those are the two I see most will be complaining about (and, rightfully so). Come on, Traxxas, where's the "innovation"??? With the exception of the 'new' chassis, and the plastic GTR shock 'clones', it's as if Traxxas isn't bothering to actually create something "new", and are just rehashing parts. People, do yourself a HUGE favor, and get something...anything...else. The Arrma Typhon 3S would be a MUCH better choice (plus, it's $20 less).

[@DoRC]

If you do some hunting around and buy it on some place like AliExpress it's $120 cheaper :-)

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

8th scale that tops out at 2S. This will sell like old milk.

[@DoRC]

I don't know. It's a Traxxas so it'll probably sell well anyway.

[@Ayrton_Groesbeck]

All my homies hate the Traxxas tax!

[@DoRC]

It definitely has been hitting pretty hard lately.

[@AndrewSury]

I have a few Traxxas myself and the Jato in any form is not on my to do list. Might get one and lend it to someone to take it apart and beat on it but other than that I'll stick to my Nitro cars for now.

[@DoRC]

Someone would probably appreciate that :-)

[@alantaylor353]

I'm sure it'll be very reasonably priced here in the UK.. They're only asking £290/$360 for the Mini Maxx, what a bargain... BWAHAHAHAHAAA HAHAHAA 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅 😅

[@DoRC]

Oof

[@lyricofwise6894]

Sure hope it doesnt cost that much ($350), for a 2s system...

[@DoRC]

The hobby shop where I got the media from shows 350 is the price. It is entirely possible that they are wrong but probably not

[@kevinrogers8352]

It's going to be super expensive because it's from Traxxas.

[@DoRC]

$350

[@AMM0394]

Crazy how traxxas just keeps releasing the same trucks with different bodies, wheels and name. Where’s the innovation

[@DoRC]

Some people actually like that. There's something to be said for the iterative design and it means that parts availability should be pretty reliable for a long time.

[@boduke9428]

Traxxass hasn't been interested in innovation for a decade. The Xmaxx was the last time they took a chance.

[@dylanwhite6539]

Eh, it’s $20 more than the other BL-2s 4x4s. I don’t think that’s an awful price. You get the metal gears and clipless system that isn’t on the typhon 3s and some brand new parts.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I get that but the buggy is usually the cheapest of a line of vehicles and this one's now the most expensive. I can get the argument for it over the type on but what about the TC syncro?

[@dylanwhite6539]

@DoRC I mean I can’t argue with the TC syncro 4 much. Mainly just these: clipless body (I’ve stopped short of pulling the trigger on several rcs because I personally hate body clips that much) and parts support. Any traxxas will have a dozen stores carrying 3 different variants of the same part at any time, especially slash 4x4 platform rigs, and that means something for a lot of people. One other thing is plastic vs aluminum chassis. A lot of us prefer the cheaper, lighter and in many ways more durable plastic chassis over aluminum ones. It might actually be the only plastic chassis 1/8 scale buggy out besides the Typhon 3. I do want to say though that Traxxas is definitely still overpricing their models

[@maltesrc]

Not a nitro and really underpowered 😢

[@DoRC]

Yeah it is sad that it seems like the nitros are going away but we'll have to see about underpowered. It should be a fair amount lighter than the other vehicles on this platform and might be okay though 2S at this price does feel a bit underwhelming.

[@WowoodogPlays]

@@DoRC as in all the niitros?

[@popcorn8199]

It's all honesty i figured it would be more

[@DoRC]

I think you're the only person :-)

[@netcruzer]

The BACKSLASH mod has just become an official TRX product.. as JATO 4x4

[@DoRC]

Yep

[@geodude3966]

Was super excited when I heard about this because I thought it was built on the Sledge platform. Then I was super disappointed when I found out it's built on the Slash 4x4 platform and has the BL-2S which is a pathetic brushless system.

[@DoRC]

I don't think it being based on the 3S platform is necessarily a bad thing. I just think that what you're getting for the price is kind of out of line with the competition.

[@DavidFernandez-sc5ws]

So it’s a backslash pretty much

[@DoRC]

Pretty much

[@benjaminbrown7127]

I feel like fracas keeps copying arrma designs honestly. With the xrt-kraton now this to the arrma talion I think that’s the name I can’t remember

[@DoRC]

Well to be fair this is a pretty standard 1/8 scale buggy and the basic design of that has been around for decades so I'm not sure I would really call it Arrma copy.

[@rccrazy]

Looks like a slightly different chassis version of every other 4x4 1/10 car they have, basically a rustler/slash with a buggy shell and classed a 1/8 buggy🤦 We need some new innovative companies in this hobby.

[@DoRC]

Yeah the basic layout is the same as all of the other 3S cars. Definitely some differences but same platform

[@SteveNavarro-qc3vl]

I really hope they skip the vxl 3s update and go strait for 4s to let this thing compete with the big boys.

[@DoRC]

Maybe though Traxxas really isn't known for overpowering their stuff.

[@RCBasherLiMa]

So it’s a slash with a bandit body gotcha lol

[@DoRC]

Pretty much. The whole three s line is pretty similar under the body.

[@nicko2222]

this is probably gonna be the most overpriced thing they sell. 350$ for 2s only is insane

[@DoRC]

It's a lot of cash.

[@tdstone5630]

3s Typhon is cheaper

[@jimloobey9335]

What I don't see.. adjustable turnbuckles, and sway bars, no Velineon setup???.. Plastic shocks, chassis, and shock towers... Probably going to be way over priced just the rest of the Trax-trash line and you have to pay extra for the upgrade kits.. Arrma Typhon comes with sooo much more and will probably cost cheaper.. WTG Traxxas, just more trash to make people pay more for less...

[@DoRC]

It's $350

[@paulsimons1164]

We did this already. Street racing made this kid.

[@DoRC]

Yeah the backslash has been out for a long time.

[@richiesavino9653]

I love reading all the comments when a traxxas release is apon us. All the hate all the traxxas tax stuff it makes my day so thanks for that 😂you make a video I will absolutely watch it but this sounds like a hard pass.

[@DoRC]

Yeah I'm sure plenty of people will buy it but those that know probably won't :-)

[@bfam8056]

There is better buggies out there but parts availability is hard to beat with traxxas and arrma

[@DoRC]

I think it depends on what you want out of parts availability. I buy all my stuff online and I can get TC stuff usually just as quickly as I can Traxxas or Arma so it doesn't really bother me.

[@fiercetatsu6782]

So basically stick with the typhon

[@DoRC]

Or the TC syncro

[@michielpoortvliet3003]

Off topic; team corally needs to build a 1/5 scale. On topic; this car totally doesnt do it for me

[@DoRC]

That would be awesome.

[@boduke9428]

Anyone needs to build a 5th scale electric 4x4 basher buggy. I'd buy it even if it was Traxxass. There is literally nobody to compete with for the first company to do it. Instead Traxxass gives y'all this little thingy.

[@insanebmxthomas]

what am i missing... is it dumb that my kagama 1/8 is 6S but this 1/8 Jato is only 2S? seems horribly underpowered lmfao

[@DoRC]

Well 1/8 scale buggies are smaller and lighter than 1/8 scale truggies by quite a bit but there are no other 2S 1/8 scale buggies in the market that I'm aware of

[@insanebmxthomas]

​@@DoRC plus... it doesn't seem wise to put 4s (or more) on a system that comes factory on 2s. Suggests that the driveline probably can't take the excess power. Soo yeah i'm puzzled and i'm pretty new to rc. 😆

[@lositruggies1581]

U mean just call it a traxxas junk!!!

[@DoRC]

I don't think it'll be junk. I think it's overpriced but based on what Traxxas has been doing lately I'm guessing it'll be pretty durable and fun

[@FUGAZI-YO]

Looks like a Grom center cover...

[@DoRC]

Yeah kind of similar

[@Smith6686]

1/8 2s.... i hope they sell it as 3s aswell even a 1/10scale 2s sucks. I was looking forward replacing my tzphon 3s with it but 2s... no thanks

[@DoRC]

It might be okay but it's certainly not what people have come to expect.

[@boduke9428]

Wow. Way to go Traxxass. I guess they haven't seen the Team Corally Syncro 4. You gotta want a Traxxass to buy this over it or a Typhon. This should be 5th scale 8s and Traxxass would have a real winner then. They'd own the entire category with or. Instead this is what they come up with. WTF Traxxass???

[@DoRC]

I'm guessing a lot of people will buy it though you're right there are definitely better options out there for the money.

[@JasonPaige-hz9wx]

It’s not a jato. It’s my biggest complaint. Otherwise more new rc cars is not a bad thing

[@DoRC]

Well it is now :-)

[@St3_yo]

Seems like a solid offering but that's just too much for what electronics ship with it. If it was their standard VXL 3s line, fine. But 2s only? Nah man. Traxxas tax as it's finest.

[@DoRC]

Yeah the BL2S system is definitely a bit of a head scratcher at this price.

[@dylanwhite6539]

The way I look at the BL 2s 4x4s is they’re vxl spec drivelines for lower prices, since 90% of people that buy the vxl models burn it up and just have to replace it anyway. Now I can get the same truck for $50-100 less? Works for me. I’ve had too many driveline issues out of arrmas to trust them again

[@DoRC]

Maybe but I'm not sure downgrading the system while upgrading the price is the best solution for the consumer.

[@dylanwhite6539]

@@DoRC I’m just saying if rather pay $350 for bl 2s than $450-500 for vxl like the raptor R