New Unit! CFMOTO CForce 600 Walk Around, First Ride and Impressions - Best Value 2up ATV for Touring

[@GuardianGrove]

If you are interested in the CForce 600, what else are you considering? Let's weigh some advantages/disadvantages in the comments section!

[@sergiolopez9297]

What about the gas consumption

[@kevinhazen7201]

C-Force 600 has a small tank than my sportsman 570 so I have to be cautious on longer rides, but the amount of fuel consumed is very close to the Polaris. I can usually get 80-100 miles of trail riding in before I fill up. Yes that's not very precise, but depending on the trails, 2 up or single rider and pace that we ride there is a lot of variables.

[@johnspringer3951]

My last machine was a 2017 Polaris sportsman 570 eps and I thought the power was great and it rode fine but Polaris had forgotten how to engineer things and there was quite a bit of problems I had with things like a clunking noise in the drivetrain, the exhaust muffler had to be replaced three times, half the time it wouldn't start because they have a small battery in the dumbest place you could imagine and the power steering would sometimes not work. So that being said I got rid of it a year ago and I'm looking forward to buying the new 2021 CF Moto 600 touring. I'm really impressed on the value and I like the video that you have made explaining it. By the way I asked you in a different video what cameras you are using only because I do not know much about the GoPro cameras. So I'm wondering what kind of camera and mount do you have on your helmet in this video?

[@brettjudson8950]

What do you think about Tracker Off-road atvs? We have them at Cabelas and curious how they compare

[@GuardianGrove]

@@brettjudson8950 The Tracker line is basically a bunch of rebranded Textron/Arctic Cat machines. This would be comparable to the Alterra 570 or the Tracker 570. I find these newly designed CFMOTOs to be top notch. The CForce 600, the UForce 1000, the CForce 1000 and the new ZForce 950 all seemed to have really stepped up the quality. At the end of the day, if there were amazing deals on the Tracker machines, I would consider it. All of these have acceptable reliability in my opinion, and fun can be had on any.

[@mnger9]

I bought my 2020 cf 600 Touring this past summer. I was hesitant as well, but did my homework, and have not regretted it. I have no good riding locally, but took it to Wayne National Forest in Ohio twice. I rode it hard, and it took everything I threw at it. It's a well built machine, and I would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone.

[@GuardianGrove]

I'm excited to get some more miles on it... It feels extremely well built for sure, and I have no doubt it will hold up. I just started it for the first time in a couple of months, in below 0 temperature, and it fired right up. I was impressed.

[@Scrum67]

I just picked up a 2021 600 today. I am 53 and have never even turned on an ATV before. I got a CFMOTO because of you and a couple other KZbin channels. I had them load the machine on the trailer for me and then got to unload it when I got home. I was a bit nervous but I popped my cherry. Now I can't wait to get on the trails. Keep the videos coming.

[@GuardianGrove]

Awesome to hear! Congratulations, and I have no doubt you will love it!

[@theworldofbs5811]

Exact same position as you. I pick up my CForce 600 (not the 2up touring) in the morning. I'm seriously looking forward to it. I also really appreciate the reviews and info from the 'trailblazers' who have pulled the trigger on the pretty new brand of CFMOTO. I'm paying $7100 OTD, with high demand in my area. There was one left on the showroom floor. And yes, I got the orange. It looks fabulous!

[@daulcoinc1436]

Christmas 2021. Bought a CF Moto 600 as my first atv. My unit came with a plow which I am using for my very large driveway. Used it today 2 January for our first snow fall in Chicago area. Happy with how it works so far. Of course I am getting used to it. Now power issues of any kind pushing 10 inches of wet snow. In a few weeks I will take it to my summer cottage outside Viroqua Wisconsin. Area is ravine after ravine in a hardwoods forest area. It should be a real test for any atv. So far it has been a great purchase. Scary Paul

[@grrgos1]

Hello, how much pay for it? Including dealer fees, taxes and everything

[@NGuppy1]

I just bought the 2021 CForce 1000 Overland here in northern Ontario (near North Bay). It was right after Dirt Trax did their review on it and I must say that AJ's comments were spot on, except for the winch; it's actually a 3500 lb not 3000. I'm totally impressed with CFMOTO so far. I am (was) a die hard Polaris guy, but the Overland and all its standard and solid features blew me away. In Canada it even comes with the passenger seat to ride two up, as well as all the storage compartments that replace the passenger seat when I'm riding alone. There isn't much out on KZbin yet on this new model but I will be doing a detailed review of my own once I get more time in the saddle. Hat's off as well to my local dealer (Leisure Cycle & Power Sports) in North Bay who are absolutely top shelf!

[@papayork1907]

just bought the 2020 cforce 600 touring, rode my wifes polaris 2019 570 last year. spent three months checking various reviews and couldn`t find a reason not to take the chance on what most consider an off brand...I LOVE THIS THING! my wife won`t ride her 570 anymore and is looking at another 600 touring to replace it. I put 1400 miles on in about 40 days with my son riding the 570 and when i let him try my cforce he said i`m getting spoiled ha ha ha. rides like a cadillac and climbs obstacles like a goat. great ride, enjoyed your video and i`m jealous of the blinkers and mirrors since we don`t get those features stock in the US

[@GuardianGrove]

I considered it an off-brand when I bought my first ZForce 500 also, and I felt like I was taking a chance as well. But the more I rode it, and the more I continued to learn about CFMOTO, I realized I was incorrect in thinking they are an "off-brand" and I felt comfortable with my decision. CFMOTO is a hugely popular company in the rest of the world, with some very legit partnerships, and are only getting started in North America... But they are expanding rapidly here too!

[@GuardianGrove]

Your experience basically echoes mine. A few years ago my wife and I owned/rode 2 Polaris Sportsmans. Now we own 3 CFMOTOs. Also, I bought both of those Sportsmans new, and both required warranty work (the 570 needed a fair amount). None of my CFMOTOs have seen a shop for any reason at this point. All good! Congratulations and I hope you continue to enjoy it, along with the excellent family time!

[@stevenmedina9393]

I went from the CFMOTO 400 to the 600 touring and realize how great the eps is! Way easier on my shoulders

[@kevinhazen7201]

Bought the C-Force 600 2 up January 2020. Did 1700 plus miles of trail riding last year. Thanks to covid restrictions closing everything down, ATVing became our outlet! Love it and it didn't skip a beat. Great machine and definitely can't beat the price!

[@GuardianGrove]

Great to hear. We all have to adapt and find ways to keep enjoying life. ATV riding is a great answer.

[@deltabluez3830]

Thank you so much for this exellant review on this ATV. I was thinking of getting this exact one, also same color. This is by far to me one the best reviews on this machine i have sen yet. I am new to riding and this review was perfect.

[@GuardianGrove]

I appreciate the feedback and glad I could help. It is an excellent machine.

[@ArcticExploring]

You have a really good atv there. 600 is the upgraded version of my 520, with some improvements I see. It will takes you everywhere, mine does and I can go everywhere where my friends with can-am's goes. I had my 520 for almost 3 years now, and have plan for making a 3 year review video this summer (made 2 year review last year with the issues and pros I had). I gave you a subsribe, so I can follow your journeys.

[@GuardianGrove]

Cool, I will check out your videos!

[@rumman39]

just bought a cf moto 600 touring and Daym I love it

[@angryman71]

I bought a CFMOTO XC800 about 2 1/2 weeks ago... just took it out for the first ride this past Sunday -- put 25 miles on it and LOVE IT! I am looking at getting this exact 600 touring for my wife, so I enjoyed your video. The ONE THING I agree with you and WISH came standard in America are the blinkers... we don't get the blinkers OR the rear view mirrors AND you guys in Canada get a standard 5 year warranty, whereas in America, we get 1 year...

[@LTD2011able]

You can get five years extended warranty for extra cost in the U.S too. I bought five years for mine for little over 800$ my opinion it’s worth it.

[@randyrunyan9434]

Finally buying my 600 2 up tomorrow! Can’t wait!

[@joemccubbins8648]

I just bought one of these. Pick it up tomorrow. Good review, thank you! Feeling even better about purchasing it already.

[@GuardianGrove]

It's a good machine! We are riding it a couple of times a week at the moment and it's been great.

[@wraithkilla1]

Hi, love your video! I just bought a cforce 600 touring and i can pick it up on the 1. June ! Thank you for your content and greetings from germany :)

[@kevinpack1454]

Bought a 2020 Orange 600 Touring in March just like yours! Real Talk Powersports has a channel on here dedicated to CFMOTO and have some awesome content as well. I put 26" QuadBoss QBT 446, clutch kit from Airdam Clutches, rear cargo box from www.atvbox.eu ,and a windshield from VIP Air. Super impressed so far and I have about 300 problem-free miles on it so far. Keep up the great work!!!

[@GuardianGrove]

Congrats! I am looking into some upgrades for next season. We will see what happens. RealTalk is a good channel and he is a great guy... Thank you for the compliment.

[@Loserminecraftsid106]

Great review. Probably one of the best reviews I've seen of the CF Moto 600. If you hook up your phone to the bluetooth what will it do? What did you pay for this model? Thanks for the review.

[@GuardianGrove]

Thank you - That is a great compliment. Out the door in Canada, you are probably looking at around $12k without an outstanding deal. I have no idea what the realistic out the door prices are in the US. As far as the bluetooth thing goes... I'm not really sure. I haven't even bothered. From what I've read, it just notifies you of a call/message and possibly allows you to answer it. It doesn't sound super useful to me at the moment.

[@papayork1907]

@@GuardianGrove i bought the 2020 cforce 600 touring in Maine, USA on sept. 3rd and out the door it was $7500. i felt like i cheated them out of a few bucks...lol

[@swat3708]

@@GuardianGrove i JUST BOUGHT ONE, OUT THE DOOR PRICE IN New Jersey, USA $7699

[@trich911]

@@swat3708 which dealer please?

[@dhenley5]

For anyone considering this machine, I have to say that I am very impressed with mine. I have had nothing but Honda ATV’s over the last 15 years, with the most recent being a Rincon 680. This CForce 600 is not as snappy on the throttle as my Rincon, but that was not an expectation going in. Aside from that, I am extremely happy with my machine so far. If it holds up, as I expect it will, I might be totally sold on CF Moto in the future. I mainly bought this because I plan to get a UTV in the next year and I wanted to give CF a try before making that decision. If all continues to go well I will likely pick up a U Force 1000 in the future!

[@TN-ez6lz]

And did all go well?

[@spencersmith4746]

How is it holding up currently? In 2022.

[@jasonwheeler5366]

Great work mate. I'm thinking of getting the 625eps here in Australia best bang for buck really.

[@GuardianGrove]

Nice to hear from Australia! I am patiently waiting for our snow to thaw so I can get back out on it. More videos to come...

[@robinbreeze270]

I bought a 2020 cfmoto 600 single.From NYS dealer for 6800 out the door with a 55" Moose plow installed. It plows like a jeep. It will be one year in Jan. That I have owned it. Not one issue. I also am a die hard Honda guy. I just think this is the best bang for the buck. I did not think it would be this good. Boy was I wrong. lol

[@GuardianGrove]

My first CFMOTO surprised me as well, so I stuck with them and now have a bunch!

[@dpenn68ny]

Hi Robin. What dealer did you get it from. New York State yes?

[@robinbreeze270]

@@dpenn68ny Hebler's

[@dpenn68ny]

@@robinbreeze270 Thanks!

[@robertcampbell3828]

I have a 2020 and it is a great fourwheeler the only issue I had with mine is the 15 amp fuse to cooling fan went bad . I replaced it and works great.

[@GuardianGrove]

That's great to hear. I guess it would be a good idea to carry some extras. Thanks for the comment.

[@stevesfly]

if the fan kicks in when going thu deep water it will blow ever time they say but i will not have mine in it to find out!!!

[@pl293]

I just perched a 600 and an 800. The 800 doesn’t have the front compartment like the 600 has, but it doesn’t bother me really. Kinda wish they would have made the front box and the power outlet on the same side for the 600. That way could be charging something and keep it in the box while riding. It’s a small thing not a big deal. These things are awesome though.

[@GuardianGrove]

Yeah, I think this 600 is the newer design, much like the 1000. The 400, 500 and 800 seem to have been around for a bit longer and I wonder if they are due for a refresh soon. I have a friend with the 500 and another with the 800 though, and I agree, all are awesome. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment.

[@bobbyelkins6678]

I have a 2018 c4 500 HO I wouldn't trade it for nothing in the world everything you're saying I feel the same way about mine they handle great I did upgrade to the 27-in tires with a little more ground clearance and I really like them I went with the black diamond 27-in tires you might want to think about that.

[@jimmyd6695]

Great video my friend. I am picking up the same machine in a few weeks. My brother bought a 600 and loves it so far. I am coming from a polaris 570 touring. I hope I like it. Take care

[@GuardianGrove]

It's a great overall machine. It feels very smooth and comfortable. Fit and finish on this is excellent and really shows that CFMOTO is continuing to up their game. The performance isn't mind blowing but it's more than reasonable and does everything you need it to.

[@jimmyd6695]

Great. Thank you for the information

[@robertwilson1714]

I have the exact same model and love it. What mirrors are you using?

[@gregfernaays3941]

Very good review. My friend has an older 2 up 500 ho which I love to ride. My other buddy just bought a 2021 600 touring and is itching to get out!! I've been very impressed with the cf moto machines. I myself ride a teryx and would be in a zforce if I didnt get such an incredible amazing deal for my teryx. If you are very down in the states near PA come and take a ride with us at AOAA park or Famous readings park. The coal country has some awesome riding experiences...keep the great reviews coming.

[@GuardianGrove]

Teryx is a great machine! I traded mine (T4) with tracks, for the ZForce 1000. It REALLY hurt, but the ZForce offered me a bit more of a sporty ride, and my family prefers riding 2/2 instead of all on the Teryx 4 so, the trade happened. I love the ZForce 1000 but still miss the Teryx. I appreciate the offer and I will check that spot out!

[@GuardianGrove]

That's only a 6 hour drive for me.. If the borders are open before I move (announcement coming lol) I would be open to it for sure!

[@dunklechuck1188]

It’s illegal to drive on roadways here in Pa.. there also? Nice review. Looking at buying atv later this year… plowing n hunting mostly. Cfs hard to pass up considering how much more you get for money. Hopefully they are reliable

[@martingonzalez2057]

hoy probe el mio ¨ chasis corto en barro y arena.... y realmente me gusto mucho este atv cforce 600, gracias amigo buen video.

[@santiagogamboa4484]

Hola amigo ..me gustaría comprar este ATV..es una buena inversión?..he escuchado buenos comentarios de esta máquina

[@RawHealingMastery]

I am really considering buying a CForce 600. My land has very steep trails and my friend says that a quad with automatic transmission would not be good for such steep terrain and that a manual would be better. What do you think about this?

[@RawHealingMastery]

Do you think the CForce 600 would be good for driving up lots of steep (20 degree plus) inclines consistently?

[@GuardianGrove]

Sorry for the delay. Most ATVs use CVT instead of a fixed gear automotive type transmissions. It sounds like your friend is suggesting Hondas, which don't use CVT. There are pros and cons to both. A good mid-powered to higher performance ATV with CVT should be fine. If it's really steep, I would look at the CFORCE 1000. Use low range for slower speed climbs. The only real potential issue would be CVT belt life but these things are meant for challenging environments. People use CVT machines for steep rock climbing all the time. The automotive style transmissions like your friend recommends (non-CVT) don't use belts, so you wouldn't have to worry about that, but they are a bit more expensive when they have transmission problems, and they are not as smooth riding. They will usually have an automatic mode with the option to shift manually. The biggest problem is that Honda's are all underpowered by todays standards. The modern machines that use purely manual transmissions are all pure-sport machines, I believe. In summary, in my opinion, your best bet is to get a high horsepower CVT transmission machine. This is not "automatic" because there are no gears, instead, the transmission always keeps you where you need to be. The manual options are too limited and don't offer enough performance for really steep terrain.

[@tjrice333]

Nice video. I just picked up a 2021 (non-touring) and have a lot of the same initial thoughts that you did. I hide my mind set on a Yamaha Kodiak 450 EPS SE but that was about $1400 (US) more, I hope the CF has a similar level of durability. Can you include some info/video on the turn signals/signal switch in future videos? Here in the US they don't come with a switch but I can see the amber LED's in the headlights.

[@GuardianGrove]

Congrats! I hope you're enjoying it. I'll mention some info on the added Canadian goodies like the turn signals soon.

[@GettingItDoneRepairs]

Looks like a great atv. Im still living without power steering on my atv. Lol. What mic do you use with your GoPro?

[@GuardianGrove]

I'm using a PowerDeWise lapel mic from amazon, stuffed into my helmet, plugged into a voice recorder. It's not the "cleanest" option but it has been the most reliable for me.

[@GettingItDoneRepairs]

@@GuardianGrove great idea plugging into a voice recorder. I didn't think of that. Thx!

[@rudolphwhitsel8550]

What is the price for everything? Winch and back seat ?

[@adavila4732]

I have a 2021 cforce 600 Sport and i abuse it full throttle everywhere i fly down dirt roads i jump it i do donuts it's an amazing machine and it's built very well💯💯💯💯

[@GuardianGrove]

I don't have a lot of time on mine yet but I can tell you that my impressions are that it is extremely well built as well. Glad to hear it is treating you well.

[@larryspears2778]

Just bought the 2021 600 touring for my wife also. Still haven't had a chance to take it out other than up and down our street a few times but we are super excited to get out and hit the trails.. Nice review keep em coming.😎👍

[@GuardianGrove]

I hope you both enjoy it! I really had fun with it and can't wait to ride it next.

[@thomascornelius510]

Hey Darren I seen you on dirt trax tv. On the 1000 cfmoto. If I remember correctly that was a one up as well. I guess if I was gonna get another quad I would definitely talk to you. Great machine bro. Really happy for you and your wife. Great video. I'm sure I'll see you ripping it around some more. 👍

[@GuardianGrove]

Stickers are finally in the mail my friend...I sent them today.

[@thomascornelius510]

@@GuardianGrove thanks a lot Darren. I appreciate that. I'll sport them around for you.

[@qualitysteamcarpetcleaning1710]

My parents bought one yesterday. There in there mid 70s. But when there on a little slope. And want to put in reverse the shifter gets stuck. You have to rock it a little to shift to reverse. We brought our other quadrunner out and put it in same spot and it shift smoothly. Going to take back to dealer and find out why it so hard to shift when on a little slope.

[@mattreid8768]

I think that's just the behavior of this particular ATV. CFMOTOMAN has the same issue. Check out his channel.

[@GuardianGrove]

Mine is the same. Almost like there is tension on it like a manual transmission vehicle can experience putting it into first gear. Rocking it or possibly just a tiny bit of throttle may be the only option. I don't find it a big deal but I am also not 70. Hopefully a dealer can look after them.

[@jasonthompson1715]

I really appreciated the video. I am looking to get my first ATV that will be for myself and wife. This machine has really caught my eye and think it is a great buy for the price point. The other machine I am looking at is the Sportsman 570 Touring Premium which is going to be around $2500 more by the time I add a winch. Hoping you could give me your thoughts on a comparison of both machines. Also wondering what type of tire your would recommend so I can try and get them in the deal.

[@GuardianGrove]

Hey, sorry for the delay. I haven't driven the Sportsman 570 Touring but I've owned a Sportsman 570, driven their premium for a couple of days and drive the 850 touring. That being said, here are my thoughts.. The Sportsman 570 has better suspension/more travel and slightly better power. Like you said, it costs more. The CFORCE comes standard with everything you get on the 570 premium model, plus the winch, and is priced at around the base model Sportsman 570 Touring. I personally think the CFORCE looks better than the Sportsman, feels smoother, matches the reliability (my best guess as I haven't had any problems), and is slightly down on performance. What it comes down to with these for me, is price/value. I like them both about equally (the premium trim Sportsman vs the standard configuration CFORCE) and there is a big price gap, so it makes sense to choose the one that saves me money. The warranty here in Canada is also excellent and would cost me even more to match on the Polaris. For tires, it largely depends on the riding you do. I wouldn't buy an aggressive mud tire for general purpose trail riding, or vice versa. Some are better suited for rock, some are better suited for heavy snow, etc. For general all-terrain trail tires, I really like Bighorns. The CST Stag tires I have on my ZForce 1000 were excellent also, very comparable to the Bighorns and can be had for a better price. I just put bigger Traxion Gripper Max tires on my ZForce. They were very cheap, and seem to be comparable to both of the ones I just mentioned, but that is here in Canada (not sure where you're located). I think 27" is the sweet spot for this displacement, and probably 6 ply preferably, to keep them as light as possible. Finding the sweet spot to get a larger tire, more clearance, with no trimming/modifications required and minimal performance loss is my goal here.

[@sakr320]

Thanks for the great video I just bought same one 2020 model and it's my first ATV ,I just have one question regarding the high RPM is that normal to have it around 4000 at speed of 25-30 km and is there a way to lower the RPM Thanks

[@GuardianGrove]

It's strange at first but normal and perfectly fine. You can have some clutch work done to "fix" it but I leave mine as is.

[@robz4522]

@@GuardianGrove Glad Someone had to mention the High RPM"s I gave up a grizzly 700 for 2021 600 camo touring love the machine hate the vibration and high rpm's at low speed 1300 rpm idle / 2300 rpm to move / 4000 rpm at 8MPH /5000 rpm at 11mph. hunter here all my riding is less than 20 mph but this atv rumbles and vibrates . everyone that rides it says "IS IT IN LOW " seems like the manufacturer did something to get more HP from 600 definitely not a smooth ride. any thoughts?

[@deanwahlstrom3564]

I bought a CFMoto in 2017 I've been happy with mine and I'm going to buy the new 1000 this year and the 2015 is a cforce 500 ho 2 up would and do recommend the CFMoto brand

[@GuardianGrove]

Glad to hear! They are definitely getting better and better with every year.

[@shawndove2730]

Just bought a 2022 a week ago took it out this morning it's brand new but using it i can smell smoke is that normal for a new machine?

[@chadspinosi8331]

Excellent on the video buddy

[@DonsATVAdventures]

My brother inlaw just bought 2021 600. I did a little ride review on my channel aswell oin it. I was impressed for the most part . My only real flaw i noticed and its nothing mechanical though but was the hard seat . Im use to our Yamaha Grizzlies that have a nice plush seat compared to the cf moto seat . Our Yamahas dont require youy to use low range either which i find so much better than the other brands like you said recommend you to use low range. Only time i use low is for snow plowing.

[@GuardianGrove]

Yamaha makes a great machine, no doubt. The build quality from CFMOTO seems to get better and better every year. The seat is not something I noticed, because I am not really used to riding any one ATV at this point. I will check out your video soon!

[@DonsATVAdventures]

@@GuardianGrove I agree that every year they are making progress on better machines ! I know there is alot of skeptics out there but like i said in my video that iv spoken to many CF Moto riders on the trails and they all are very happy with what they have.

[@GuardianGrove]

@@DonsATVAdventures I've bought 4 of them in 3 years so... Speaks for itself how I feel lol. Sold both my Polaris machines, and my Kawasaki and I have all CFMOTO now.

[@mikeperreault1969]

Thanks for the great video and information , very helpful .

[@GuardianGrove]

Glad it was helpful!

[@terrybauer4151]

How you like you're 600 now is it holding up good motor wise ? You still would recommend getting a cfmoto 600 2 up?

[@GuardianGrove]

I don't have a massive amount of mileage on it but it's been good! No regrets.

[@normanlapierre142]

i also have the 2020 CFmoto 600 2up and i put 27 inch ITP mud lite 2 and the machine loves it only problem is when i turn right all the way it rubs on the inner plastic i did keep the stock 12 inc rims

[@GuardianGrove]

Thanks for the comment. Maybe with a bit of trimming or a slight adjustment. Glad to 27s work well otherwise!

[@normanlapierre142]

@@GuardianGrove well its the inside i took it off and it didnt rub but it covers one of the radiator hoses in the frame i was thinking a 1 inch spacer maybe

[@trail3913]

Gone are the days when CFMoto came back at the end of a rope. Today the machines are reliable with a higher level of finish than the 570 Polaris. In France, we have the 625 which benefits from the 850 chassis and an improved engine (same displacement as the 600). There are two flaws that CF will need to correct quickly: heavy weight and very low end suspensions. Once these things get better, other manufacturers need to be concerned.

[@GuardianGrove]

Thanks for watching! I think the other manufacturers need to be concerned right now. Case in point, I had a Sportsman 570, I now have a CForce 600 haha. I agree with you that they could benefit from some more suspension travel, especially when comparing specs to what else is out there, but it certainly still rides nice. They seem to be listening, and getting better and better every year.

[@blastabone]

Do you think the 2 seater is nimble or do you think I should go for the 1 seater?

[@GuardianGrove]

The 2 seater is still pretty good! Lots of pros with the longer wheelbase and it's not long enough to really notice the cons. It also gives you the option to carry a passenger if you ever need. I am sold on the 2-up models now.

[@RR-ss5fp]

Hello Have you had any stalling? Or not starting issues. Brought mine 2021 home. Ran 3 miles stalled out and won’t start Just curious

[@GuardianGrove]

Haven't had a single issue with the machine. It's been extremely impressive, even throughout the winter. Cold starts in -15c temperatures were always instant and that stands out from all the machines I've ever owned. Sorry to hear about your issues and hope it's been resolved.

[@anthonyyoung6907]

You can get a clutch kit put in it and get better throttle response

[@stanleymanning6619]

I'm thinking getting a two-up s eat 600 would you recommend it

[@ineverplayedb4292]

Just ordered one of these really looking forward to getting it. In the US a lot of the cfmoto at least around me are back ordered so we have a little bit of a wait time. Glad to see an honest review on it!

[@GuardianGrove]

Hopefully you don't have to wait too long! I think you'll find it's worth the wait either way. Congratulations on your purchase.

[@Mainly-boy-outdoors]

What did you pay for the 600 touring?

[@damianoby8540]

NICE TRAIL!

[@troywuestefeld2893]

Does this have enough power to pull 2 full grown adults and a trailer carrying a load of wood?

[@EMaNPettG1]

I’ve been out of riding for several years now and thinking of buying this model atv. Any information how they perform in creek riding? My friends ride a lot in sand and water creek beds.

[@GuardianGrove]

I think it would be as good as any in its class! You may want some bigger and more purpose-built tires for your type of riding but that goes for almost any stock machine.

[@stmichale6192]

I was looking at the cforce 400 but my wife has slowly started to like coming out with me but does not like to drive her own all the time, so now instead of investing in two 400’s I’m considering the 600 for the back seat and extra power to carry us both around..any input from anyone? New to riding never owned one just rented them we live in Vegas but vacation a lot in Utah and we rent them every time we go…thanks in advance!

[@davidepicca8813]

Absolutely the best review on this product out there ! I’m looking to buy one of these as soon as the stores re-open here in Quebec. If someone is un-decided about this machine, how about the 5 year warranty that comes with it !! It’s a no brainer. Plus all the accessories that come with it at no additional cost compared to the other brands .... and less expensive .... Keep up the great reviews !!

[@GuardianGrove]

I really appreciate it! I hope you find one soon. I was so shocked at the quality of this machine, I am sure you will love it. Looks amazing too!

[@knifecharlatan8912]

I've owned this same model for about a week as well. I'm well pleased and impressed, but I am checking into getting a clutch kit (weights and spring) for the primary. I'd like to change the engagement to be a little sooner, little lower rpm. I found a dude on ebay that stocks the stuff, so I'll probably do that after break in period. Great video!!

[@GuardianGrove]

I haven't paid too much attention to the engagement point but I haven't noticed mine being too bad. I find the engagement to be pretty smooth but somewhat lacking in terms of power off the line. I would think that lowering the engagement point like you described would cause it to be even smoother but less power off the line due to lower rpms/further from peak power. I am not super informed about this stuff, admittedly! If you do it, let me know what you think about the changes!

[@knifecharlatan8912]

@@GuardianGrove I know what you mean about being further from the peak power spot in the RPM range, however since it seems to hang out at a constant rpm and do the acceleration through the continuous variation of ratio, I think it'll be an improvement, none the less. For some reason I believe it would be more at home with a slightly tuned clutch engagement. I'll let you know what I come up with. I've seen some other people talk about it, but I haven't really gotten specific details, other than.... "its better" 😆

[@kevinpack1454]

Try Airdam Clutches @ airdamclutches.com. I bought one for my 2020 Cforce 600 Touring and it ran me under $150 including shipping.

[@knifecharlatan8912]

@@kevinpack1454 i had sent a message to them but haven't recieved any response

[@johnspringer3951]

@@kevinpack1454 What did that clutch do for your machine? I just purchased one yesterday and I see what you mean. I am used to a Polaris sportsman 570 and it engages completely different than that.

[@hosea4six361]

Thinking about buying 2 600 touring models for me and the wife to ride, no rough riding just trail riding, think its good choice?

[@GuardianGrove]

I think it's an excellent choice and it can still handle some rough stuff occasionally! The kind of riding you described seems to be exactly what is was designed to do. If you have a good dealer nearby, maybe they would let you take one for a test drive and see for yourself. Good luck!

[@hosea4six361]

@@GuardianGrove thanks. It's a good looking four wheeler for sure

[@rex4x4]

I found some cfmoto footage from 2018 that will be uploaded tomorrow and next Saturday. My gf wants a cforce 500

[@GuardianGrove]

We looked at the 500s too but preferred the back seat if the 600/1000s. I think they are fine machines!

[@GuardianGrove]

Also I will check that video out soon! Hope everything's going well for you buddy, and I'm sure you're excited for snowmobile season around the corner.

[@bulletgt3]

So if i get this right by reading all these peoples comments about their ownership of their CFMOTO, tjey are happy and these machines are reliable and worth the penny? How is it with spareparts? Like do they stop making parts after just 3 years or do they keep making parts for 10 years after the latest sold machine? Ive become interested in the CFMOTO brand because here in Sweden its not that big of a brand, and there is a lot of BS going around about alla other makers that isnt Polaris, Can-am, Honda, Kawasaki or Yamaha.

[@GuardianGrove]

I have had 4 CFMOTOs now and still have 3. I would put them in the middle of the pack. They are good but not great. I am okay with good, because they are priced accordingly. Mine have all been reliable.

[@majordeau]

Nice videos & thank's for the review, what is the top speed ? :-)

[@GuardianGrove]

Thank you! I haven't verified the top speed yet but now that spring is upon us, I should be able to let you know soon!

[@H-RutherfordHill]

Would this be a good first ATV for my wife and I to share?

[@GuardianGrove]

I think it would be perfect for the two of you, for your first. It's a great all around machine that falls somewhere in the middle of the road, meaning it's good for beginners but you won't feel like you've "outgrown" it once you gain some experience. It will offer you many years of enjoyment. Good luck!

[@adampecore6917]

Sharp machine! Looks a lot like my 2020 Can Am Outlander XT Max 650. I’ve been considering a CFMoto SxS. I’ve never owned aSxS, but I enjoy the handling of the quad. You mentioned preferring a quad. Can you tell me why you prefer one over the other?

[@GuardianGrove]

My wife prefers riding the quad. I enjoy both, as they are both a completely different experience. I always prefer my ZForce 1000 but of course I love to ride whatever I end up on! My wife prefers it because she likes the maneuverability/agility of a smaller machine, especially in the tight trails we often ride. She also likes being able to see more in the upright position of the quad with nothing impeding her view, as she is kinda short!

[@adampecore6917]

@@GuardianGrove that makes sense. Appreciate it!

[@CIA005]

Hi, Can you know the fuel economy l/km on cf moto 625 touring

[@GuardianGrove]

I'll try to throw that in on an update video/review. I did notice that it seems to use fuel quicker than a lot of my other machines. Maybe it's the tank capacity and not the fuel economy, but for about 100km+ ride, it seems like it would be good to have a small jerry can or rotopax just in case.

[@20BuckHuntClub]

How is the mud and water protection?

[@graysond7474]

Was this in Val Caron??

[@ORVXplore]

I really like that quad. Such a good looking machine. What exactly does the Bluetooth do for you though? I don't understand the benefit of it

[@stevesfly]

i have a 2021 just like this and the bluetooth will tell on the screen when getting a phone call

[@GuardianGrove]

Yeah, like Steve mentioned, it just notifies you and apparently you can answer the call, but it just answers on your phone. Maybe not super useful but it's something new and will probably progress into some more useful features down the road.

[@jockphones]

Great review 👍 I have ordered a 625 touring basically the same but for the UK. We are on a remote Scottish island so hoping mine is reliable as it's a costly job to get it to the dealers for warranty work.

[@GuardianGrove]

Thank you! That's excellent and pretty cool to hear where you're located... I love Scotland! Good luck and I am betting you won't have any issues.

[@charlesmonette]

What's the difference with a Touring and not?

[@GuardianGrove]

"Touring" generally means "2-up", so a longer machine equipped to carry a passenger (back seat, handles, foot pegs).

[@michaelraine8681]

Where are they build at

[@MrThegabbster]

Is that the cprail Winchester sub. Where that way fright (Shitter) scared the Crap out of you. Ha ha. I ran Cpr trains for 30 years. And had lots of scares. So safety first I’m glad your viewers pay attention FTFM I’m the book of sick on call conductor Great info we are looking at cf moto force 1000 for snow Plow and farm work

[@gregkenney6320]

Where is the battery located?

[@nathanchambers7771]

Great content keep it coming!!!!

[@GuardianGrove]

Thanks man!

[@rcclassiccrawlers4368]

Do those 600’s have 1 or 2 cylinders?

[@GuardianGrove]

They are singles.

[@rzl07375]

Havent seen any new videos latley. Any updates on the 600?

[@GuardianGrove]

600 is still going strong. Last 10 months or so were a whirlwind for me. I'm back producing videos and updates are coming. We've had all the machines out about once/week lately and 0 issues. Throughout the winter, the 600 amazed me at the reliable cold starts (instant). I'm super satisfied with the purchase but you'll hear all about it in a video soon.

[@rzl07375]

@@GuardianGrove Sounds good. Im looking at a 600 touring for me and my son, Im just worried if it has enough power I dont want to buy a machine thats a total dog. I know logic is just get the 800 but there is a budget Im on.

[@GuardianGrove]

@@rzl07375 People have been enjoying ATVs for decades, long before anything reached even close to 600cc/40ish horsepower. They've also been riding 2-up long before anything was ever designed for it, if you catch my drift. Stay within your budget, get the 600cc and enjoy. It is more than adequate!

[@rzl07375]

@@GuardianGrove Very logical thinking and I agree. I do own 2 other big bore twins so it will be a drop in power from what Im used to no matter what. Im stuck between the Cforce 600 touring and Sportsman 570 Touring. The Cforce comes with more options but seems the 570 has a more potent motor. No dealers have either right now so its a waiting game.

[@rzl07375]

@@GuardianGrove Just ended up getting the CForce 600 Touring. Impressed so far with how smooth it rides. Not a fan of the mushy stock clutching but that's an easy fix. Liking this 600 and not regretting my purchase one bit.

[@ant2464]

Trail Boss 🙌🙌🙌

[@gtmoto2710]

Might get one for my boys.. where is that?

[@GuardianGrove]

It's near Trenton, Ontario. Seems like an excellent machine so far. Definitively has adequate power but not super fast.

[@gtmoto2710]

@@GuardianGrove I may not be too far from you... Im about 20 min north of Rice Lake You riding again any time soon?

[@axintesebastian2852]

You're doing a great job. Very good review. Aswome machine. Keep up the good work and have fun!

[@GuardianGrove]

Thank you! Many more videos are coming. I am soon going to kick it up a notch!

[@angelocontreras2636]

What is the bluetooth function for?

[@GuardianGrove]

It connects to your phone but doesn't do much once connected. I believe there is a notification on dash when you get a phone call but it's not really that useful.

[@olegvihodets8680]

Street legally?

[@GuardianGrove]

It's not titled as a street legal vehicle but luckily more and more municipalities are allowing ATV and SxS on the roads, for the purpose of getting to riding areas. The signal lights, horn and mirrors don't add to the legality at this point, but they do offer some practical use while riding on the roads, regardless.

[@bobbyelkins6678]

Hill climbing with them they they don't let you down.

[@thomascornelius510]

Aw dude. That's so nice. On my way to work. I'll hit you up tonight. Awesome man.

[@GuardianGrove]

Thanks man. I really like this thing. It feels great!

[@R.N.GPerformance]

No video lately buddy?

[@GuardianGrove]

I filmed a few truck videos but haven't finished editing. I've been deployed overseas and now posted to a new location (Canadian Forces) since my last video. Been a crazy year but I am on my way to my new posting, which is very 4x4/offroad/ATV/UTV friendly! More to come soon. Hope all is well dude.

[@R.N.GPerformance]

@@GuardianGrove it sure has buddy. Cant wait to see. Be safe.

[@ByTunningShop]

Big Likeeee‼️‼️‼️

[@V10PDTDI]

Too bad they don’t make any model manual or Duall clutch

[@joshuarussell3681]

Where did ya go ADV havent seen a new vid in awhile

[@GuardianGrove]

I'm out of country for work but I will be back soon! New videos on the way.

[@kevinsepulveda4605]

How fast plz do ir

[@GuardianGrove]

I'll test the top speed/acceleration this spring. Sorry I can't manage before then but we're pretty icy/snowy here!

[@extremeoffroad-snowmountai9084]

👍

[@axintesebastian2852]

Why you stop posting?

[@GuardianGrove]

I was out of country for work, but now I'm back. A couple of videos are on the way!

[@axintesebastian2852]

@@GuardianGrove great news!

[@guizmolchat8306]

Le plus gros problème c est trouvé les morceaux les réparé et même les garage en vende mais ne veullent pas les réparé..comparé à polaris Si non bonne exemple ce moto vs polaris... un citron vs un autre citron..lol mdr

[@gtmoto2710]

Surprised you went with the Orange.

[@GuardianGrove]

I actually really like the orange!

[@gtmoto2710]

@@GuardianGrove I do too.. the blue would have matched the Zforce LOL

[@GuardianGrove]

@@gtmoto2710 Ah, I understand lol. I thought you were hinting toward not liking the orange. To be perfectly honest, because of low stock, I was limited to the blue Z1000 and the orange CForce 600 but, I really liked both of them anyway (luckily).

[@AnElectricHorseSocorro]

Obey break in standards

[@AutoHoax]

I thought cf moto was a zombie chinee company not a CaNaDa company or had TrueHo made the annexation complete

[@GuardianGrove]

CFMOTO Canada imports the machines and handles the Canadian dealer network, marketing, customer support, etc. They are based out of Quebec. I feel you with the political situation! Fingers crossed right now...

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

Whats kilometers 🤣

[@GuardianGrove]

It's a system that almost every other country in the world has adopted but a few are still lagging behind ;)

[@lifeguard184]

Made in China

[@bigreezy691]

Point???

[@martinnorway]

High end quality. CF even build the bikes for KTM

[@cheddarballs864]

Is the extra 1k worth it for the 800cc or would the 600 be perfect for 2 people that have a combined weight of around 250lbs? We do a bit of mud riding