New virus Vs old epidemiology: Why Swedish Covid strategy, hailed as model for the world, collapsed

[@ThePrintIndia]

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[@abhinavsingh101]

Sweden isn’t a socialist country. It is a market economy with a welfare state.

[@abcxyz1881]

What is welfare state is actually a socialist society. They adapted it from Soviet Union after the world war to prevent the spread of communism to Western Europe. Education, health care and old age care is free. Income tax is in the range of 50%. What else make it less socialist

[@abhinavsingh101]

Socialism means abolition of private property. That can be de jure, like in Russia, or de facto like in India (with excessive regulations regarding what can be done with capital.) Sweden has competitive markets and free trade and sound finance, unlike protectionist countries. You should check out economic freedom of the world rankings; it features in the top 10-15 countries.

[@markp6621]

About 10 years ago Sweden privatised much of its healthcare, its schools and aged care. Unfortunately the price of healthcare went up to almost the highest in Europe, and the performance went down to being the second worst in Western Europe (as measured by hospital beds per 1000)... only the UK is worse. Thousands of doctors and nurses in Stockholm alone were sacked going into this crisis. Some women were being flown into Finland just to give birth. When Finland closed their border with Sweden many health workers who lived in Finnish Lapland could no longer commute across the border to Swedish Lapland for work. Swedens education was one of the best in the world, but then went down to #20 of 28 in the OECD. It has since recovered to be a little better than average (ie. inside the top 10), but its teachers now have some of the lowest morale in Western Europe. After privatisation its aged care had many scandals including eg. not changing adult daipers to save money. This probably means they didn't want to spend money on PPE either, which may explain why they became epicentres.

[@KiranKumarBokkesam]

@SS Being leftist or rightist or centrist is not wrong. Being corrupt is wrong. I don't know if he is corrupt or not. He certainly says many incorrect things with a lot of conviction many times. I haven't subscribed to his channel. I have liked, disliked and reported his videos based on its content.

[@ujjwalpradhan1747]

Sweden is not actually a socialist country in a pure sense. It's a social democracy with free market economy with high tax rates but government provide basic service like education, healthcare etc. So, we can't compare sweden to cuba or venezuela.

[@---me---]

Communism and socialism are different to a larger extent. Cuba is communist country. India is also a socialist country with free market.

[@ujjwalpradhan1747]

@@---me--- but there is a difference with socialism and social democracy in a socialiat country goverment owns the major production while in social democracy govt doesn't own major production companies but provide basic serives like edu, healthcare etc along with high tax rate. And the basic difference between communism and socialism is that under communism govt owns all property and under socialism land is free for private ownership.

[@ashutoshchouhan8380]

@@---me--- not at all, india doesn't have free market instead highly government intervened economy. From regulations like Land Acquisition Act, PESA, Land Ceiling Act, ECA, 100s of labour laws to very powerful inefficient and unproductive bureaucracy which harms businesses and innovation. 1000s of documents, procedure are required to start a business; even school or hospitals need 100s of documents and checkpoints everywhere.

[@viks881]

So, everyone was gambelling, some played safe, some blind. Some won the bet, some lost it. Everything else is polictics.

[@satyamkumar-cu7ve]

very true

[@VKAD23]

Well said

[@basavarajashok]

Some spreaded intentionally ... Ccp

[@nishantsuman3058]

@Shekhar gupta... Metal trophies and fame of excellence also comes with virus strains but few smart sheeps know how to Sanitize it with political intellect and experience in profession. Everyone is hungry for neutral news content and mostly all renowned independent journalist trying to establish their positions strong in online news trade by initially putting factual, logical, argumentative and well researched data to news just to attract more subscriber's but later on becomes stooges of particular ideology if not political party. Our constitution allow every citizen to vote whether a news cameraman capturing violence outside pooling booth. Neutral news to balance true negative information cannot bring revolution in society like india, when information seeker or subscriber is looking for shortcuts of attaining intellectualism to prove himself knowledgeable superior than being a social worker or changer.

[@bloodbathy]

No body won. All have same death. Economy shrinked. At the end virus won.

[@SanAntonioDean]

Sir, please show graphs, tables or charts when you talk numbers. It helps in comprehending.

[@sanjayrajsoni]

True, without that it seems more like his opinion rather than a data based conclusion

[@SnehaKaSafar]

Absolutely agreed. From Stockholm Sweden, I can confirm that the peak death day was about a month ago, since then the count has been going down. Infact this Sunday it was probably zero( though it could be a reporting probably as on Monday was 8). Today it's 20.

[@finalcountdown6704]

It takes lot of attention to comprehend what he is analysing

[@ThePrintIndia]

Thanks for the feedback. We’ll look into it.

[@gourinandantonpe5789]

The daily new cases are still rising, as on today, in Sweden. More than 2000 on 3rd and 1000 + on 4th. Pray these rising numbers do not translate into fatality as well.

[@cdavidjoy]

I live in Sweden. It is too early to say whether Sweden failed or succeeded in handling Covid-19. - As Swedish PM put it, this is a marathon; not a sprint. - One needs to wait at least one year to evaluate its success. At the end, lockdown is not going to make any difference. - The cases and deaths in countries that locked down are going to increase when they open up again. - The Swedish strategy was based on Science. Anders Tegnell never said that the strategy was wrong. He said the nursing homes (old age homes) failed to protect elderly. It has nothing to do with the strategy. The majority of the deaths are in age group 80 and above. And in nursing homes. Lock down was not going to change death rates there. - Majority of the staff working at nursing homes are refugees, who don’t speak Swedish and are not aware of hygiene routines. This was again a structural problem and not related to strategy. - The logic behind lockdown is to avoid overwhelming the health system. (to flatten the curve). In Sweden, even without lockdown they could flatten the curve. - Another part of strategy was not to close down the schools. That really worked. - Lockdown is not a long term strategy. No country can remain in shutdown until the vaccine is developed and produced for the entire population. - The situation here is not a mess. The death rates are stabilizing. Even Nobel laureates like a Prof. Michael Levitt applauded Swedish strategy. Status : kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqaTY4qam7CJnqM

[@rohitk9221]

Yes exactly! I checked the worldometer site. The daily death numbers in Sweden are actually declining contrary to what SG claimed in the video.

[@sandy666ification]

Sir idea is that damage is already done 4K deaths for Sweden = 500k deaths in India

[@cdavidjoy]

As rate of infection increases, the death rate will also increase. Prof. Johan Giesecke : kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJexY32Nnst_ebs It is assumed that India will reach its peak only in July. So, it is too early to compare. Again Sweden failed in protecting the elderly in nursing homes (old age homes). That is a failure. 50% of deaths are in old age homes. But it has nothing to do with the strategy. Nothing would have changed even if the country was in total shutdown.

[@tapanthaker8005]

@@sandy666ification You can not directly project sweden's death to India's number .. Anyone with basic understanding of stastitics knows that. I Agree with op that sanjay's analysis seems flawed. Thats why he didnt talk about fatality rates.

[@maheshdocherla]

@@cdavidjoy I would like to make a correction to your statement. It should read "As infection rate increases, the number of total deaths i.e absolute number does increase but the death rate i.e percentage of infected patients who die actually drops" because you are going to identify more and more asymptomatic carriers as testing becomes widespread. India is clearly showing it.

[@deepeshkumar100]

Having stayed in Sweden for 2 years I can confidently say that whatever you said about Sweden's world class health care system is absolute non sense. They have a very broken health system..

[@sakshamsinha2913]

Then why the media, esp left liberal one projects it as the heaven on earth?

[@gopaltathe1732]

I'm living in Sweden for more than 2 year. Health system is broken, i wanted to get tested, denied 3 times

[@gopaltathe1732]

No, it's better than UP for sure. May be few states in india have better for sure

[@thakursukhshant]

I thought Print will present correct data but they are blinded by hatered for current govt. that they confidently present wrong data. Draconian lock down has saved India and gave us the time required for preparation to atleast fight the virus with such a population density. But they will never put the facts on the table. Indian model is Karela whereas Asaam has done much better. No one appreciates Asaams efforts.

[@shubchatt]

Really, UP?

[@saketsingh9999]

Earlier ravish kumar nd all praised sweden that no lockdown nd the no cases nd critize the indian gov. I think wat will dey say now after epidomelogist remarks.

[@SnehaKaSafar]

Some people are more self critical than others. And unlike the claims in this video, the peak fatal date was in April and since then the daily death has been going down with zero deaths this Sunday. And Sweden is pretty transparent about the numbers.

[@rohitk9221]

@@SnehaKaSafar I checked data after reading your comment. Why is SG lying in the video. The death numbers are declining indeed contrary to what he claims.

[@khateebahmad7283]

@@rohitk9221 he wants to put down all nations except india. Behind the curtain SG stuff🤣

[@kunal25roy]

People who are comparing Sweden with India are really delusional, it's has a population lower than new Delhi and it has a highly educated and desciplined population... There is no fix play book for this virus... Every country needs to deal with it as per their own situation...

[@adityabakshi297]

Ravish Kumar followers are idiots.

[@hansgustafsson2061]

"STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Sweden last week recorded no excess mortality compared to the average of the past five years for the first time since COVID-19 struck a country whose death toll in the pandemic has eclipsed that of its neighbours, statistics showed on Monday."

[@maxiodanish3196]

OK, Sir you improved your speed, I am going down from x 2 to x1.5.

[@SameerKumar-jf5mi]

haha lol

[@vatoloco2116]

Lol

[@faizanhvac9806]

I’m trying this formula 😂 man you are a genius

[@chinthakaudugama2792]

Man your comment may help me to save 25- 50 % of my time.

[@sallianz11]

SG did not improve his speed , the print guys uploaded video with 2X speed 😜

[@amitsinghchahar6090]

This is a far better setup than green screen.

[@jaydistracted]

He's obsessed about an outdated setup which was in vogue 10 years ago!

[@tee2727]

@Amit Singh Chahar. We Pk people like Green.

[@vvniceguy]

When you are dealing with unknown enemies, everyone is intelligent in hindsight!!

[@rakshitkandpal7737]

Need an cut the clutter on recent agricultural reform announced by the government regarding amendment and bill which they brought day before yesterday.

[@vaibhavjain4326]

ilanomics has done it.

[@pradeep2704]

An? Cut the clutter?

[@garrycharlies936]

He basically covered that in episode about stimulus package

[@rakshitkandpal7737]

@@vaibhavjain4326 as per my knowledge that episode was before bill was announced i.e 2 days back . I am asking for a episode regarding if the bill fullfill the expectation or not

[@hellovikramjeet]

Hello, from Sweden! In addition to the points you mentioned, Sweden also drastically reduced her testing scopes initially. And besides not quarantining the elderly homes strictly, the lack of proactive testing meant that the caregivers at elderly care homes weren't tested for symptoms of the virus. And speaking of symptoms, even if you showed certain symptoms, you couldn't really visit any hospital initially without having a pre-diagnosis done over the phone via a national "emergency helpline" number. If you show milder symptoms, you are asked to quarantine yourself (although they call regularly and sorta check up on you) in a measure to not overburden the system. And surprisingly enough, having a high literacy rate does not guarantee literate and responsible behaviour from individuals; if anything, the "soft lockdown" could only be described as voluntary. Although the healthcare system is far from being burdened, Sweden's approach to containing the disease, I concur, is a disaster. Sigh.

[@venktesh6600]

Appreciate they have courage to take different being a guest there.. wait n have a some balls.

[@hakanpetersson2662]

As a swede I am in agreement. The handling has been horrible, and the advise given from the CDC incorrect at many instances, and what's worse; reckless.

[@rameshpatil-fo5io]

While Gupta ji seems to appreciate India's measures, he is shying away from saying so. And keeps adding 'draconian' every time he says 'lock down'. But he does not add the adjective to scores of other countries' severe measures , for example, of the Koreans slapping big fines.

[@husaindaud5569]

Yes, I was going to say the same

[@kapitalamelioconsultancy1394]

Coz he was discussing more about Sweden's policy rather than India...

[@rishabhbhardwaj2873]

speed of sound

[@tee2727]

@nishabh bhardwaj. Impossible. You are liar.

[@swamivardana9911]

@@tee2727 It is a figure of speech called hyperbole. The comment is funny.

[@ayanverma5746]

Funny ! 😂

[@nrusimha11]

The pressures of having something interesting to say daily results in hyperbole and casting around for something, _anything_. Sweden should have the highest death rate if the policy were a failure. Fifth highest with minimal disruption sounds like a resounding success, certainly not 'shambles'.

[@utkarshanand4489]

Sir, kindly make a CTC on India's position and the eventual peaking of coronavirus cases

[@hanumatappa.m.t7044]

Stop exaggeration. Give concise and accurate explanation.

[@nitinvishen]

Can we have some discussion about what is happening to coronavirus spread in Japan?

[@ankitsrivastava4406]

A Swedish colleague of mine told me his wife had some problem in her eye, sometimes it used to get blacked out. They went to hospital but doctor didn't even checked her saying unless it won't be serious they won't have a look. After 6-7 months his wife's one eye sight is totally lost now and they are suggesting an operation now. Every year a large number of people die due to normal flu in Sweden (mostly old age) , and most of them never even got admitted or treated befoe they died. So it looks very good from outside and may be effective due to small population and high HDI. It's far from all rainbows ✌🏿

[@Neil6393]

and Rajiv bajaj was hailing sweden's approach lol

[@swatejtripathi3083]

He is dumb...

[@VKAD23]

He is also saying that india flattened the wrong curve. Also wrong

[@Neil6393]

@@Obnoxious_Weed what I could gather from that conversation was that he is a selfish bitch..Even if herd immunity worked in sweden then there is no guarantee that it would work everywhere especially in india with such huge no. of population. Millions would have died before india would have achieved herd immunity. That guy was just concerned about his business and nothing else.

[@prashantsolanki007]

@Kiran Koti Lol we are criticising Sweden but we are following the Sweden Models now, today only we had highest death rate and highest positive cases. Every weak the new test cases are increasing because the lockdowns are over in 3 to 4 months we will be discussing on Swedens Model again.

[@Tripathi_adi]

Modi is now following Sweden approach lol😂😂😂

[@patelmiki]

I think advantage of lock down was that it gave time to governments to be ready with required infrastructure to fight the virus.

[@nitinsadana]

I live in Sweden and I watch your show everyday without fail. Although death rates have been increasing but local media is reporting Sweden entering 'late pandemic phase' which is the start of declining trends . Source below sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/1510762

[@Abhishekyadav-ms1nq]

I am no doctor but i have observe that on an average mortality rate for each country lies from 3% to 4%(except Russia) . Which tells that there must be atleast 1-1.4 lakh more people that are covid+ but still unfounded . seeing Sweden test per million compare to other EU countries. I think there is a possibility that cases will increase..

[@alwaysSleepyBear26]

Thanks for pointing out. Your comment was informative.

[@deepax08]

Too soon to conclude who has done well and who has not. The Print, now reading out the news from another News Media!!! @ThePrint, Have you followed the real happenings in Sweden? Anders is being self critical about himself.

[@monojdas-gupta5918]

Without co-morbidity cases clearly categorised and collated there is precious little point publishing death figures all under blanket coronary virus only

[@hakanpetersson2662]

@@monojdas-gupta5918 I agree. Excess deaths during the pandemic in Sweden are some 1 000 deaths more than the official Covid count of roughly 4 700.

[@ddduuukkkuuu]

As a person living in Sweden for the past 4 years, even though the data you have collected is right the conclusion you have come to is something i do not agree with. The only reason for that is the threat of virus is not over. So when the threat is not over how could you compare countries with each other. What guarantee do the countries opening up from lock down have that the number of cases will not rise again???????

[@utpalwailong4913]

Moral of the story : when in doubt, use common sense. It is the best weapon.

[@rishav2463]

Where socialism doesn't work: India Where socialism work: Sweden This makes equal sense.

[@tee2727]

@Chaudhry Vikrant ror maratha Indians don't get fat cause they keep on eating vegetables only. Simple.

[@sunilsharma9721]

In india socialism couldn't work because of socialist in are like lalu mulayam sharad

[@bhawanishankar7755]

It work on homogeneous cultural groups which hold fraternity , India is plenty diverse for going the socialist way, now every community felt as if they are left out in this policy or that.

[@us9348]

Anonymous : I feel confident about my exams. SG: Arrogance has led to demise of leaders and governments. Anonymous: OK now I feel nervous about my exam. SG: PEOPLE who have lacked the grit and hunger for power never achieve it. Anonymous : Bosdk chahiye kya tumko? SG: PYAZ BHI AUR JUTTA BHI.. Bin pendi ka lota.

[@Burntchrome]

Hunger for power and arrogance due to having power are two very different things. Your argument just like your joke makes no sense

[@us9348]

@@sunilchy33786 SG aka mauka-parast journalist. Typical Punjabi opportunism.

[@us9348]

@@Burntchrome Chill kiddo, jokes aren't always supposed to make sense.

[@AngyNags]

Lol

[@pradhan2008]

you hit the nail on the bread.

[@manojgunda2165]

What I understood is the even if they did it good, People find one such parameter which is not good and call it failures! And only since he said he was wrong, now everyone is calling him a failure! They practically did really good.

[@TheOpposition]

Educated do not mean enlightened with wisdom. However Instead of talking about swedes you could try to find how Kerala with limited means able to contain this pandemic.

[@Exceltrainingvideos]

Sweden did what it thought best. In hindsight we can say anything we like. They have built such a superb nation with reliability in every area - education, health, employment, etc . In Sweden people stick to what they commit.

[@anant1870]

My favorite episode of Cut The Clutter till now. It hit me me on multiple levels. MUCH LOVE TO THE PRINT(especially Shekhar Gupta Sir🤗) NEVER EVER STOP THIS SERIES. 😇❤💕💕❤😇

[@varunchawla2265]

A few days back, Gupta ji had shared Sweden's model and praised it with a lot of excitement also hinting that Indians should start coming out and not be as scared as we were. Now a change of circumstances with change of opinion.

[@bijayaghimire9412]

Umm, when I saw the video, I was like he plays both sides. He just regurgitates everything that comes in western mainstream media even if he contradicts himself.

[@anubhavpraharaj5782]

To be fair, all countries have failed to handle corona 🤔

[@GirishKumarBhat]

New Zealand.

[@hakanpetersson2662]

@@aadi2456 Its population density is quite similar to Sweden and a population of 5 million shouldn't make it impossible to campare it with Swedens 10 either.

[@joggymathunni2339]

Herd immunity is only possible theoretically. Allowing a few people to die is morally questionable and a political suicide for the govt.

[@hakanpetersson2662]

Poll numbers have gone up for the swedish governments main ruling party, as for the swedish CDC:s (mis-)handling of the pandemic.

[@silent_traveller7]

one correction-science is absolute always, its the framework that keeps changing, I think shekhar has forgotten what he learned in his science class.

[@jnaneshwarkonanur323]

can you measure 1m length with zero error?

[@rext8949]

Southeast Asian country Vietnam is perhaps the best model - they haven't lost a single person so far. Hindsight is the best sight , Sweden gambled on their strong points but unfortunately lost.

[@Niidea1986]

Also Sweden is barely making any test, and for that reason their deaths per million are most likely downplayed

[@rohanthomas1332]

They may not be making enough tests, but you cannot downplay the number of deaths. When someone dies I am sure the hospital would find out the reason for his passing, and if it were due to corona, would add it to the total dead from the disease. There is a good possibility of a large number who are infected, but are not tested because they are asymptomatic. But you cannot fudge death rate from corona

[@rohanthomas1332]

Also, the last I checked, they do 27000 tests per million. Not the most comprehensive, but certainly higher than the number of tests we do per million....by a HUGE margin

[@hakanpetersson2662]

Testing is ramping up somewhat the last few weeks, but falls way short of government goal of 100 000 a week. Excess deaths in Sweden have been 1 000 higher than the official Covid death count and were most visible during the peak of the pandemic in Sweden.

[@rohanthomas1332]

@@hakanpetersson2662 hi, can you explain why there is a difference of 1000 in terms of deaths? Is it because of comorbidities and so when they passed away they did not add them to the number of covid deaths?

[@hakanpetersson2662]

@@rohanthomas1332 When number of people dying were at its peak in especially Stockholm, many deaths were not properly categorized. Some of them were though and had their death certificate saying due to Covid-19, yet they didn't make it into one of the official health authority counts (though they did make it into another swedish authority count, we have two). Comorbidities may certainly explain why these deaths were not registered properly, that combined with work overload when Covid deaths were at its peak. Now that number of deaths have gone down, official Covid deaths correlate well with excess deaths.

[@rakeshwadhwa2587]

Sweden follows free market principles in trade, investments and other than taxes is economically free. In fact economic freedom generates the surpluses which it spends on healthcare. Another matter that with private healthcare Sweden would do even better. SK’s analysis way off mark and ridiculous to compare socialist Cuba with Sweden. Sweden far greater degree of economic freedom than the thuggish regime in Cuba allows.

[@ishankaran]

It has worked well for us but for countries like italy or britain even with lockdown the death per million is same .. so there is actually no middle path..beither you do a india and do it early or do a sweden .. as anything which is not a complete lockdown or which is late is as good as no lockdown. So in that context way India did fantastic.

[@prashantsolanki007]

Comparing with USA and UK is stupid. Compare it with neighbours of India and Asian Countries. Affect and Spread of Virus depends on many factors like, region, weather, age of population, healthcare, etc. Every region have similar trend of fatality so if you do that you will find India is the same as all other countries in south Asia.

[@alpha-alpha-325]

People from Sweden and Denmark have several times said that they are not Socialist. They are a market society. They can be classified as social democracies not socialists. The countries offer social welfare thanks to high taxes which enables their citizens access to free education and healthcare. Their citizens actually want to be taxed more as it helps the society overall.

[@dailydoseofhappiness1906]

This channel is an example of an unconsolable wife ...

[@anonymouspm44]

You know what I like best about #CTC is the fact that you're not shy of backtracking on your analysis. As new facts come in, you don't hesitate to change your stance. Such a simple thing, to acknowledge the facts and say what the truth of the moment is....but so little are able to look beyond their ego and do it.

[@roystendsa9071]

Don't be judging Sweden so soon when "Desh ka system" is yet to be stress tested since the our cases haven't peaked yet and our lockdown period is already over with little scope of reinforcing it.

[@mahinsharafudeen]

What Non sense is he talking about ? Sweden is a capitalist market economy with a largely homogeneous population which allows them to overcome the problems with social welfare which they practice. Their economic riches is not because of socialism, rather it's despite its social welfare. Never expected such ignorance from SG.

[@akshayraghuwanshi4066]

What does showing humility to the virus even mean? It just sounds good in stories and news while it has absolutely 0 practical implications or meaning. This episode creates a lot of confusion at the least. 1. an impossible solution - absolute lockdown can't be achieved (migrant crisis an example of a porous absolute lockdown) and now calls for opening the economy when the virus still seems to be on an upward trajectory with an increasing slope (each day number of cases more than the last day) puts us in a precarious situation. 2. an incorrect solution - herd immunity spreading through the community doesn't work. Great!!! now, what??? Can anyone say the situation in terms of spreading coronavirus - while we are gradually opening our economy - different from March? If yes then please share links to resources where you are drawing your conclusions.

[@zchawi88]

Agreed there is no right answer. Humility is wht... lockdown? And can tht be done forever? The nations tht took a "herd immunity" approach did so for economic preservation which every other country is now doing a couple of months down the line. "Corona se nahi to bhook se marenge" does not qualify as arrogance towards the virus.

[@TR-cm3ft]

Should have locked all international flights right when virus broke out in Wuhan.

[@akshayraghuwanshi4066]

@@TR-cm3ft No one was aware that such a virus existed until it was late. Also banning all international flights would require robust government actions, which is unimaginable for multiple reasons and would have been difficult for India to take such a step unilaterally in a globalized world.

[@akashsingh-sc4qy]

"pyaz bhi khaye Joote bhi khaye" the story :- Long back in the 1950s, in our school days, we were taught a story where a man was caught for stealing a few pieces of onions. The magistrate devised a strange punishment for him wherein the man was given the option to choose one punishment out of the three. He was asked either to pay Rupees 100 as fine or to get 100 lashes on his naked back or to eat 100 onions at a stretch without stopping to take water or anything. Being poor, he didn’t have any money to pay the fine. In those days, Rupees 100 was quite a huge amount of money and 100 lashes would be too painful a punishment. So he decided to eat 100 onions, which to him seemed the most easy punishment. But hardly had he eaten a few onions when his eyes got swollen with tears and his mouth burnt with the pungent onion juice. He cried that he may be lashed with a whip. But even that could not be taken as after about just 10 lashes he asked the executioner to stop and that he would somehow manage Rupees 100 to pay the fine.

[@noeladesouza3867]

Mr Gupta. The expression is not, Sweden was held out as, but rather held UP as a good example....

[@himmsingz]

Allow us to have our own usage of English :). Let us go slow on being imitative.

[@ThisIsJatin]

Atleast they accept that they did go wrong somewhere and look to find answers instead of brushing facts and data under the carpet. That's what makes them a developed nation and a developed culture.

[@bhavyapatunjal3674]

SG low key dissing Rajiv bajaj's interaction with Rahul Gandhi

[@kkkkuuuu1]

No wrong assessment of Swedish policy, we need to wait and see the long-term impact on all accounts... Lives lost Vs economic impact etc etc

[@rkh7360]

Much needed. Epidemiologists are just bragging too much now. Rahul bajan claiming draconian lockdown while missing the point that India needed it to prepare its infrastructure n cuz of that, now we are better placed. I can only tell from personal experience. The hospital where I work has increased its ventilators by thousands. We are better equipped. So now we can take the risk of opening up. With India's population, the rise in numbers of positive cases will always be eyeball grabbing. But as long as the rate of patients on ventilator n death rates are low, we're good. Plus with the experts saying Corona is here to stay for a couple of years, mann k chalo that we will be affected.

[@spasarma]

Please send this video to Pappu Rahul and arrogant Rajiv. Both are chitchat and discussion like a vaccine developer.

[@asrempire]

I only watch you among Indian journalists, as you are least biased and prejudiced. Hats off to you

[@soyuz281]

It’s not accurate to call Sweden a socialist country like USSR or Cuba. They have democracy , freedom of speech. They even have a constitutional monarch.

[@YashSharma-wu7kr]

Sir, What happened to Hindi CTC, I watch your Hindi CTC with my family but from last few days you are not doing it in Hindi. I know it is difficult to do same thing in different languages daily. Lots of Love 💕

[@ThePrintIndia]

Thank you for writing in. I’ve been more than a bit over-worked esp Covid related extreme work, and dislocated newsroom functioning...many working from, some from office etc...hopefully, will resume Hindi next week. I am missing it too!...warm best wishes..sg

[@sahilrapartiwar2428]

@@ThePrintIndia Yeah..even my mom used to watch it daily

[@kislaychaturvedi]

Mine too

[@kps950]

Not everyone understands hindi, english is preferable for wider audience.

[@debasishraychawdhuri]

We can have the talk after everything is over. The mathematical models are not virus-specific, and the epidemiologists do know what they are talking about. Remember, India's numbers are still rising exponentially.

[@ajeebdastaaan396]

Yeah SG has shown disdain for the millions of cases predicted by epidemiologists since March which didn't took social distancing and lockdowns into account and would have resulted in achieving herd immunity and high number of fatalities.But no one can't really give verdicts on Covid-19 containment strategies that has worked or not worked for respective country?Countries will do course corrections in their response to the cases and fatalities. It's like declaring a side being winner/loser based on the evidence of the result of first day's play of a 5 day test match!!

[@haythhawk]

Abhijit Iyer Mitra -

[@sahadhaneef272]

Sir, you missed models of Taiwan and Vietnam which were two of the most successful countries in handling corona.

[@TA-fz9ov]

Vietnam is the country that world should be congratulated 90million people no death

[@Splash-nr8ot]

Sweden had a blond moment.

[@subhadeepdas7556]

Haha noice

[@arijitpalit2756]

Many Won't understand this joke.

[@vishalmohan4824]

@@arijitpalit2756 Can you explain

[@mehulkumar3388]

🤣🤣

[@x3nn0n]

Too good.

[@sunitavatvani]

I am living in Stockholm and things are not as what you are talking about. Also I read Anders being self critical

[@SandeepSarmah]

Where are the Ravish Kumar bhakts?

[@utkarsh_Shrivastava]

They all are hiding somewhere

[@prashantchauhan7830]

As they say , 'bhakts are bhakts' .No matter what.

[@dargarharsh]

@@utkarsh_Shrivastava 😂😂

[@AsKarmalkar]

They went back into their tea cups

[@angryhusky2467]

@@utkarsh_Shrivastava bhai khudki gaand me chupne ka alag hi talent hai in logon me.

[@meenamurmu7605]

Welfare system is better in France. For example, when I was unemployed in France, I was paid 70% of my salary for 2 years, while my sister who lived in Sweden was paid less than 70% for 6 months, which was reduced for 6 more months and then got nothing....

[@Kudupa]

Everyone on the left liberal were jumping around Sweden model or no need for locked down or its time to open up blah blah blah. Once that model failed, all these guys running away like cockroaches when the light hits. I remember when Gupta also made one or two cut the clutter talking about Swedish model and being every enthusiastic about it. Also, I never want to live in a country where I pay 50% or more of my paycheck as my Tax..

[@krishnamaggarwal9167]

In Sweden income tax is high for all people of all classes and corporate tax and other laws are low and easy. It is a mix of capitalism and socialism

[@mjspeaking]

Now that all "Experts" coming out open on what India should have done regarding lockdown. A must must must watch this episode. Fantastic presentation by Shekhar Gupta. Thank you . Sometimes you feel that Countries like EU want the old people to die to save their pension bill.

[@omkarporje4859]

Having stayed there I can say Sweden has large number of immigrants from the middle east. (Specially from Syria in recent times). Health system is good but would really like to know in detail where are the more number or cases (in which cities)? Cities like Malmo have large number of immigrants from middle east living in a congested areas.

[@evathings]

18:57 Editor:”New Zealand’s population is just 48 lakhs “ .. Me :”Okay.... So what “

[@komalthecoolk]

8:18 you are ridiculing people coming on TV and asking for people to go out and get herd immunity etc while economist Ila on your channel kept saying the same in multiple videos when she's not even qualified to talk about this.

[@roystendsa9071]

Ila says a lot of stuff which doesn't seem very justifiable.

[@abhimanyukarkara4218]

Not being critical here, but even Shekhar had said that Sweden's model was working successfully. May be it was at that time. Glad that he and his team have come up with updates.

[@kiranmaddu8006]

Just be humble and hit when it is your time - my social media discussion policy.

[@avneet12284]

Sweden is one of the freest economies in the world. What has that got to do with socialism? Sweden is a mixed economy just like the US. The US regulates more while Sweden taxes more - just a different mixture

[@syt5409]

How does money and medical system help with an incurable highly infectious virus?

[@angryhusky2467]

It helps in reducing the pain and suffering before death.

[@syt5409]

@Chirag Patel As far as I know, the mortality rate depends upon total confirmed cases and total confirmed deaths. It is fluctuating in countries depending upon demography, number of tests conducted & other factors. Please don't extrapolate data and come up with quick unfounded conclusions.

[@syt5409]

@Chirag Patel sure, right after you turn sober. Sweden has the ideal conditions. The best ideal conditions one can ever have in the current scenario. And this video proves that such ideal conditions cannot keep the mortality rate at 1 percent. :)

[@syt5409]

@Chirag Patel Sir, you still quote percentages which are quite unproven. I may not fully comprehend the nature of this tricky virus, but so does many experienced virologists and epidemiologists. You, however, have seemed to have mastered the science of this virus in all ways possible. My simple point in my first comment was money and medical system can only protect one nation so much, against this deadly & incurable new virus.

[@tg-bv8mc]

I don't stay with my family in India. When this all started, I used to have nightmares thinking about the condition back home. The concern was just not limited to my family but the whole country. I never supported current government but I am not shy to say that I thank Modi government for the complete lockdown. As per my understanding, that was the best option. Additionally, we just cannot rely on the government to do everything. We all need to step up and do every bit we can to overcome this situation. Extend help, doesn't matter how small or big. Look around n help.

[@thakursukhshant]

Rather than Evolution you used very poor words, correct expression is “Progression of disease”

[@shaggy1234shaggy]

This is the only thing you have to comment on?

[@shubhamthakur7708]

you r an absolute idiot who sold his time to get something unworthy

[@shubhamthakur7708]

@Adam Balleyballey 'bihari' how?? It seems like u voluntarily wants to be called an idiot

[@SnehaKaSafar]

I think some of the claims made in your video can be disputed. From Stockholm Sweden here, I can confirm that the peak death day was around mid April, since then the count has been going down. Infact this Sunday it was probably zero( though it could be a reporting delay as on Monday was 8). Also the fatality rate has been almost flat with a slight downward tilt. Also we have been living a very normal life with school's open but everyone working from home as much as possible.

[@SnehaKaSafar]

@Chirag Patel Please look at the "Daily New Deaths in Sweden" graph on worldmeter site as you rightly pointed out. April 21st -> 185, May 14th -> 147, June 5th -> 77. Also May 31st was zero but we can ignore that as recording/backlog error. So you still feel that the death toll is rising ?

[@ravichauhan9065]

How was Indian lockdown draconian and how was Pakistan reference relevant. Sir ji😀

[@nrusimha11]

Taking the conclusion from this episode at face value, the Indian government's policy was both prudent and very successful in slowing down the spread of the virus.

[@maheshj8435]

Now that India too is opening up, what you think will happen after three months?

[@drooleybob]

@Chirag Patel trying to flatten the curve is also merely shifting the curve.

[@nachiketdhende8681]

Government will just hide the data. Like they hid the unemployment data before 2019 election! 😄 😄 😄 RTI applications will gather dust!

[@dgap4724]

@@nachiketdhende8681 you can hide data of health-related issues in a number (max) 10000, even that's not possible. This is not same as the other cases where the actual data won't leak as quickly as possible.

[@संदिपमांडे-य1य]

@@nachiketdhende8681 stop ranting and doing propaganda in every other comment

[@nachiketdhende8681]

@@संदिपमांडे-य1य What's your problem? Afraid to speak the truth?

[@siddharthkulkarni5809]

Sweden is not a socialist economy, it simply has a strong social safety net....

[@angryhusky2467]

For straight 10 min he was sarcastic and I was totally confused!🙄

[@sagardeore3688]

Rajiv Bajaj and Rahul Gandhi praised same failed module. This is what remained to highlight in this video. Otherwise it is a good as all stuff we get from the print . This is mistake Rahul Gandhi made many times without study or listening to the good people make comment and trapped himself in his own creation. This is Why people make fun of Him . As long as he do not study or listening there is no hope. This is what embarrassed most of the time Congress supporters.

[@zigzagzog100]

in cut the clutter we cover what we miss in whole day news coverage....again a great episode..

[@satishbabu8997]

There is no need to be overtly critical just because somebody tried something different....all human progress was due to someone trying something different

[@Vimalbnwl]

Looks like an Avengers logo forming in the background by the lamp😁

[@gagandeepsharma003]

Thanks for making video I was looking for sweden

[@tanishatalare2714]

I guess.. "picture abhi baaki hai"

[@tuxuday]

Exactly! Not only in Sweden but every country.

[@raghuvirkhanna7636]

Let's become a country which provides 10% of quality of public services sweden provides for our citizens before making these snide remarks.

[@NishantSharmaxoxo]

Ravish Kumar do link bhej dena Shekhar Gupta Ji.

[@01chintu]

bhai Ravish Kumar ne lockdown ke mismanagement par question kiya hai na ki lockdown par.

[@swatejtripathi3083]

@@01chintu management of lockdown is upto states

[@NishantSharmaxoxo]

@@01chintu Lockdown pe kya bola us se mujhe koi lena dena nahi hai. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYaknWCtpptjfpo ye dekh lo ek bar. Pehle hi Sweden k model ko safal bta chuke hain Whatsapp University k Headmaster Ravish Kumar Sahib.

[@01chintu]

@@NishantSharmaxoxo ok cool

[@abhimanyukarkara4218]

To be honest Shekhat Gupta also talked about how Sweden's model has been working well. If you see his previous videos. But glad that he and his team have come out with updates.

[@hammerheadforever]

Thank you for the video to the team of The Print, for the past few days it has become a ritual of mine to watch an episode of Cut the Clutter first thing in the morning. I really appreciate the quality of the content on the website as well as the KZbin channel. However, I have to raise a point about today's video. Mr. Gupta said "Science is not absolute", I would beg to differ. Science is indeed absolute, it is the capability of the scientist that has landed Sweden in trouble. Politicians should only listen to scientists first (while tackling issues such as health etc.), but should refrain from going ahead with making policy decision basis views of a single scientist.

[@angryhusky2467]

This is a RANT video🤣🤣

[@bauddhbhaarat5943]

Every communist journalist (who isn't?) has declared war on Sweden. Because it was not bullied by the media into locking down.

[@ashokmajumdar9242]

Like all other episodes, you took 20 minutes to say that what India did was absolutely right and Modi did a brilliant job!

[@swapnilorkey]

Sir, good to know sweeden, talk about hypocrisy in India.

[@vedantgote5328]

How can Sweden be called a socialist system? It has a strong welfare system but it is one of the most open market economies with low corporate tax and high income tax. Stockholm, its capital is a home for entrepreneurs.

[@sethusaveda]

What makes you think Sweden has low corporate tax

[@vedantgote5328]

@@sethusaveda 21.4% is considered low I think. Check this - www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/#2318dc6274ad and this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHaTlYp-eNOcmZo

[@susanta64]

Explain this to Ravish Kumar the I know all fellow he he he !!!

[@Tripathi_adi]

Explain this to idiot Modi who was opening lockdown and following Sweden approach

[@bose22280]

Thank you for not using distractions to manipulate people and talking logic and sense which all news channels do and not sell politics and their soul.

[@ruturajyadav5130]

9:42 Still holding my breath 😛

[@junaidniazi2264]

Epidemiology + computer simulation= utter nonsense

[@NA-mc4zq]

How are you responding to Abhijit Iyer Mitra's digusting Islamophobic comments?? Are muslim viewers disposable to you, Shekharji?

[@sakshamsinha2913]

That tweet was ridiculous,I agree,but it wasn't islamophobic but more crude, trash and misogynistic.

[@rsingh1252]

yes, I want to hear his response to this as well

[@mohitvyas97]

Victim card 100.

[@NA-mc4zq]

@@sakshamsinha2913 Calling a muslim a Jihadi as an abuse is not Islamophobic? Really? Which other religion people get called that? Next you will say that uttering "Jews are greedy moneylenders" isn't anti Semitic also. Just because twitter and YT comments are littered with such phrases doesnt make it okay!!

[@padmakardeshpande3882]

The main reason for spreading covid in India mainly in Delhi and Mumbai is because of Markaj Tablugi.6000 deaths from 135 crore population is something the world is appreciating. The main reason for this is due to Indians ingredients used in their lunch and dinner.

[@anjalisaha5118]

I'm the fifth