new VW Arteon Shooting Brake R-Line FULL REVIEW 2021 Arteon Facelift better than the Passat?

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[@globalwarming3187]

Amazing video, like always 👏!! Keep up the good work Thomas!!!! Greetings from The Netherlands 🇳🇱

[@hakannil]

@11:40-1150 I see a LOT of video noise, I just saw it in the X3PHEV video as well. No one else seeing this?

[@blue-ck9ns]

Make sure when using the gesture control that you wave your hand in front of the sensor, NOT in front of the screen. The sensor is located directly under the screen. Mine works perfectly using it like this.

[@saxonysteamtv8219]

excellent car, best vw by far

[@shoot91]

i would say that goes to touareg :P

[@dragospahontu]

@@shoot91 function

[@dragospahontu]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru i need a link to see the picture

[@dragospahontu]

@@shoot91 Touareg is so cheap

[@dragospahontu]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru wtf people buy that?😂

[@heinrichvanneel978]

I can't stop watching this channel.

[@ikgeignirengiu]

Time for the capacitive buttons police!

[@allan.n.7227]

I guess you can use car wows "stick of truth" for this purpose as well.. .. or use a "wearing gloves" test

[@gregorypaulbox3035]

@@allan.n.7227 ... all this impractical technology is not for the benefit of the consumer. What's wrong with an actual physical switch or button? Modern cars are the worst.

[@allan.n.7227]

@@gregorypaulbox3035 I couldn't agree more...

[@jasonk9779]

@@gregorypaulbox3035 Totally agree. I have a 2017 A4 Allroad and it strikes the perfect balance in my opinion. No touch screens and a manageable amount of buttons that I can reach and adjust without looking. I'm not happy with where Audi is going with their infotainment and climate controls so I'll be keeping this car for quite awhile.

[@dragospahontu]

@@allan.n.7227 does this car have the rest function

[@RC-fd5tl]

Excellent video as usual Thomas. Arteon Shooting Brake is a great looking car - pity that here in the UK the engine line-up is limited to just one 150 bhp pertol and two diesels 150 bhp and 200 bhp.

[@gregorygant4242]

Looks very ,very nice. Sleek design, practical as well. Love that color, sort of bordeaux red . Any idea what the RRP of this will go for inGermany ,Thomas? Great review as always , very thorough !!

[@thecrazeecow1682]

Makes me appreciate the old design even more!

[@infinity4774]

Nice review as always! Are you going to review the new Peugeot 3008 facelift too?

[@autogefuehl]

thanks!! yes ! :)

[@pete379100]

I know that particular model would never sell over here in the States but man would I love to see it here. Beautiful car

[@blue-ck9ns]

Yeah it would sit on the lot and collect dust, just like the regular Arteon is doing unfortunately... I would've bought one if it had DSG transmission, that 8-speed is garbage. I went with the Golf R instead.

[@drwisdom1]

In 1972 my first car was a used 1970 VW Fastback. Since then I have been driving GTIs, my Corrado, and my Sportwagen. I have never bought a sedan, so a high performance wagon really really appeals to me. But only if it had a manual transmission.

[@zdp4185]

how old are you back in 1972

[@drwisdom1]

@@zdp4185 I was 16. My dad didn't want to drive me to my 6am Summer job so one night he came home with the 1970 VW Fastback and said I got you a car, but you are going to have to learn how to drive a manual. It took me an hour and I have been driving manual transmissions ever since.

[@vilmosballa5214]

Shooting breaks are lovely, great this one too. New Tucson pls 😃😃

[@Mogsy28uk]

very stylish car and performance estate, for a VW. cracking review as usual Thomas, and good background/incident music too.

[@Rip-Van-Tinkle]

Sleek, good looking, sporty, high quality.... oh and the car is alright too LOL :-) Nice review as always guys!

[@autogefuehl]

=)

[@dduyhai]

Yes, the blind spot assistant works at 23:35

[@terokaakinen7061]

Great review about the best looking VW atm.😎 Do you guys know is it possible to get this car with R-Line exterior package only?? Because I'd like to have normal buttons on the steering wheel.

[@eszterbacso]

Hi autogefuhl team we greet from hungary. We most like your channel. Follow you, and thabks for your lineup.

[@kingfisher111]

pls raise exposure or Iso a bit when shooting in this kind of low light.... rest awesome work

[@sakichugouken2474]

Hi Thomas, thanks for this review. Where does the Arteon stand regarding comfort ride and sound isolation compared to an A4, 3 series, C Class as well as an A6,E Class and 5 series?

[@panaceiasuberes6464]

Can you add the usual features to the time bar (exterior, interior, space, practicality, third seat review) so I can go directly to any one of those features I value in a review? Thanks! Amazing videos.

[@seb.]

that front center led strip... looks aftermarket 😭 new trim: Aliexpress-line

[@seb.]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru I'm not against having one, but here it's dim and not contiguous

[@Rebasepoiss]

I believe this is because of regulations which dictate where daylight running lights are supposed to be situated on the front of the car. Lights outside of these areas probably can't be brighter than a certain limit. TLDR: you can't have a light as bright as a regular DRL at the centre of the car. At least that's my guess.

[@radoslavgeorgiev5572]

I believe it will look a lot better with some black wrap on the chrome lines all over. If everything is blacked out and the LED strip is the only "shiny" thing, the car will look great.

[@dragospahontu]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru does this car have the rest function

[@dragospahontu]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru interesting

[@amh313]

You should have the engine spec in the title. it's damn hard to find out what this is about:D

[@bashirdarek]

Excellent review like always.

[@scorpionx211]

Why is it in Full HD and not in 4K all the other channels are in 4K

[@kaitlyn__L]

Presumably they haven't bought new cameras/computers/internet to support it.

[@bakhtyarshwan1342]

Hi very nice description when talking, I like it, but I have tow small notes if you take it, first every time you try and describe a car, tell us which city you are in, and second the data that you give on the car, let it be written on the screen side for a certain time, thanks

[@dougnapoltes1036]

Looks better as a shooting brake. I love your tester's color--King's Red!

[@younesten5106]

I need this beautiful car in Canada 😍👍👍👍

[@craigblakesley4397]

Great review 👍

[@laurentfournier43]

Very nice video as usual, but could you mention the price range and the torque of the 280 hp engine?

[@smwatson1512]

Up there with the Peugeot 508 SW in the stylish estate competition. Lovely looking car.

[@xiaoliuwu8539]

I am curious about whether you prefer the Arteon sedan or the A5? Many people thinks that at the price point,there is no reason to choose Arteon over A5.

[@kostov7891]

Isn’t the Arteon sedan bigger than an A5?

[@chunglin_tang]

How is the quietness? Is the sound insulation good? (don't see any motorway driving in the video though)

[@blue-ck9ns]

For anyone who owns/has driven this car, how would you compare the new Harmon/Kardon system with the previous Dynaudio system? It seems like VW is moving away from Dynaudio as they've entered a new partnership with Harmon.

[@yuxuanxiao9285]

I got a vw ad before this video

[@leeliftingservicesltdtonyf3463]

A very nice video In the right colour and wheels it would be very nice, though the model has been around for 2 years or so far and proved to be a not very desirable model, personally I like it.

[@rich8305]

Another great review- thank you

[@bartbressinck4082]

How does the Arteon SB compare to the Volvo v60 t60 recharge regarding to noise insulation and drive suspension?

[@HectorM777]

I don´t know but the passat variant B8 is the choice for me. great video Tom!

[@limpunsing224]

I like it far better than any SUV/CUV in the VW lineup A-1 review

[@yes8032]

Yea I’d rather have wagons than CUV

[@normwetherbee3403]

I'm not so crazy about the LED strip in the front. Looks like an afterthought. I DO like that they finally got rid of the chintzy clock in the center of the dashboard air vents. Oh, and on the 2019 models the exhaust DOES come out those openings in the rear bumper.

[@iosdeals]

I think you guys are using probably too wide of a lens and it distorts the car, or you cropped and messed the aspect ratio, look in 2:17 at the front wheel, it looks elliptic

[@dwayneyap2175]

They’re not offering the arteons with the turbine wheels anymore?

[@blue-ck9ns]

I think they're still an option.

[@richardraybould6928]

Nice looking but those capacitive buttons would drive me nuts as they would not work well with my ultra dry skin

[@georgess01]

I say the biggest improvement is the interior, there's a higher differentiation between the arteon and the passat

[@georgess01]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru from what I can see, there are different air vents and different climate controls but yes, the mostly is carried over from the passat

[@blue-ck9ns]

Yeah what they did with the dash board and on the door panels looks a lot looks a lot more premium than the Passat B8 now.

[@michaelbeiyt]

What a great design. Passat Variant in hübsch, echt gelungen! Glückwunsch zur 500.000 Marke. :-)

[@mrdefinitely8769]

Nice video and good looking wagon. It should do well in the USA as the market is craving for vehicles like this. Now a real challenge for Thomas. Get the VW California over to America!! I believe in you!

[@joey4542]

It’s not coming to the US. :(

[@MotoMoto-wv1ot]

Hi! Do you guys have a German channel? I'm learning German right now and I also love cars so I thought I could watch these videos in German as well!

[@timj.316]

There is no German Channel of Autogefuehl. But look for Ausfahrt TV. That Channel offers also Long reviews. Or carmaniac for electric Cars.

[@MotoMoto-wv1ot]

@@timj.316 Ok I'll do that! Thanks a lot for the recommendations!

[@jamesbraniff7834]

Exhausts should really be in the middle of the car not to left or right this looks better than the L or R cheaper way.

[@stephenhendricks103]

Mounting a bike rack on the rear is difficult, if not impossible, with center mounted exhausts.

[@acefighterpilot]

Very interesting how this car is so much like the Golf Mk7 and feels so much more premium than the Golf Mk8. Great video and music as always. Is this 280hp EA888 an up-rated GTI engine with the IS20 turbocharger, or with the bigger Golf R IS38 turbocharger? And I see that in most markets the Arteon is offered with a 7-speed DSG, but in the US, an 8-speed. I have not heard of any 8-speed DSG, so is our US transmission a torque converter automatic?

[@blue-ck9ns]

I think the Golf 7 interior is more premium than Golf 8. Golf 8 interior looks cheap, like it came out of a Ford...

[@brandonlaswiss1037]

It be nice too see it next to a 2021 Audi A6 Avant size wise

[@ToniCur88]

I prefer the sedan version though, looks nicer to me. But the Arteon yes only my compliments

[@WOOF95]

What functions does the voice activation system control?

[@robertninic5555]

From your review, this seems like a really nice car! The heads-up display on the extra little display window...could it be that when you need to replace the windshield it oculd be more costly for a consumer due to that feature, if the windshield requires some special preparation? I am not sure how the tech there works. Those kind of steering wheel controls are awful - it's similar in the 2020/21 Mercedes-Benz E-class. What are the designers thinking? It's like they' were smoking pot at a car convention and went; "Hey, why don't we apply car controls like you have on a mobile phone? Yeah!" A car should not have extensive touch features, because it causes the driver to look away from the road. The way they should be designing those controls is; "How do we make the steering wheel controls so a blind person can use them?". I know car manufacturers are planning to take the driving away from the driver, and want to test these systems just like no driver is needed, but is is too early and invites Mr. Hazard. I agree with Omer Davidovich below - we need the capacitive buttons Police! :o)

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[@mie-]

does this car came with heated / ventilated seats?

[@jeorgeorwell4033]

Hi guys do you know wether there is any power outlet in the trunk of the hatchback/fastback?

[@Xenoforce1992]

The older models don’t have them. Not sure about the newer ones

[@markknight3983]

Any chance of testing a Rolls Royce - Ghost or Phantom ?

[@dragospahontu]

Is the DSG7 DQ200 0CW a good gearbox?

[@fwebe2871]

Ich kann insbesondere s.g. shooting brakes irgendwie nichts abgewinnen. Das wirkt immer so, als konnte man sich nicht zwischen Stufen- und Steilheck entscheiden und hat einfach die Nachteile von beiden kombiniert.

[@j.r.3664]

Are you going to review (to the most possible extent) the new Golf R tomorrow?

[@jackrobinson3392]

Hope you review the alpina b3!

[@aceultimate4393]

wonderful car...i can only hope i will be able to buy it one day

[@JaniJan]

My favourite car in 2020

[@optimumcsgo1219]

Sind die Kopfstützen vorne verstellbar?

[@Biotorn]

Why is the gear lever the old one?

[@dragospahontu]

It's nice to feel something mechanical

[@blue-ck9ns]

Because this is only a facelift, not an entire new car.

[@Biotorn]

@@blue-ck9ns so is the golf 8 but the lever is a little knob

[@blue-ck9ns]

@@Biotorn No the Golf 8 is a completely redesigned model, not a face lift

[@Biotorn]

@@blue-ck9ns ok but shooting brake is literally a brand new car in a sense there has never been a arteon station wagon, but then again its just a variation from the sedan one. My apologize, had no idea there was a word for redesign. Not didn’t really see the difference between refresh, redesign and face lift, but now I do. The changes are subtle, because some of the changes go in different categories, but still can mean other things. But I guess since the engines are new then it is redesigned.

[@nightskyz83]

This is a great review!! Btw, I am considering to buy a new car either Kia Stinger 2.5T or VW Arteon shooting break 380 TSI R-line performance. Would you please give me any your opinions or comments? Actually, I prefer RWD based car but unfortunately, arteon is based on FWD and compare to stinger its performance seems to be lagged behind. I enjoy the outdoor activity such as camping, so that I am looking for hatchback style car. Would you guys mind if you give me any of your prestigious opinion? Thanks in advance.

[@dragospahontu]

Arteon Shooting Brake is a lot more premium and a lot more practical!

[@erezyoal]

How about arteon vs 508 ?

[@xcrack]

Arteon (even the GT version) is much roomy inside, another league

[@dragospahontu]

@Johnny Dong Arteon is a lot better

[@dragospahontu]

@Johnny Dong Peugeot is actually good but it's a bit small in the inside.

[@dragospahontu]

@Johnny Dong smaller than Arteon, but 508 is more of an alternative to Passat. I think both are an interesting option

[@dragospahontu]

@Johnny Dong the price is similar for sure.

[@Borussia1985]

We are driving the Golf 7 GTI and the new Skoda Scala with Sports Package. Both have just great steering wheels. Especially the one in the Scala looks and feels really premium. It has two chrome dials and is covered completely with perforated leather. Why did they put such a cheap plastic thing in the most expensive and top of the line Volkswagen? 🤔 The AC unit is a downgrade, too. And I also think, that the both LED strips in the grill, look like straight from the Baumarkt 😉 Same as the fake exhaust. The Arteon is such a cool car. But these details make the difference... In a bad way 👎🏼

[@seanstampley9739]

Kind of looks like a hearse. An attractive hearse.

[@robman2095]

Definitely, and the dark glass does not help either

[@Lasergun74]

Beautifuuuuul! This shooting brake should be taken as-is and rebadged “model year 2022 Passat”! I love the Passat but I would like this Arteon estate better as a company car 😅

[@Lasergun74]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru it better be! That’s what I’ve said. Having the next gen Passat look as this Arteon SB would be good to me

[@Lasergun74]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru discontinuing the mighty Passat would have been a big mistake for VW. Here in Europe the Passat Variant is still a bestseller among company cars, for people like me who need a convenient, reliable, and supercomfortable highway cruiser with a huge cargo area and reasonably premium interiors.

[@seb.]

they need to have this body type on MEB platform, go BEV

[@havfunonline]

So much. This car would be so sick as a BEV. Big too, could hopefully get a 95kwh battery in there and then get it up to 250 miles real world range (300 WLTP)

[@seb.]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru in 2030 😂

[@seb.]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru but it's a SUV, that's not a slick sedan/estate/shooting brake

[@seb.]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_ID.6

[@kemalmerdanovic7759]

Servus Thomas,da du alle getestet hast,deine empfehlung...arteon sb,jaguar xf sb oder volvo v90 cc,mich interessiert die bauqualität und das es nicht nach 6-7 jahren zusammenfällt ?! Danke

[@mtn9752]

Hallo, als Automakler kann ich dir nur den VW empfehlen. Wenn du mit max. 180km/h zurecht kommst, würde auch der Volvo passen. Der Vorteil beim VW liegt ganz klar beim Motor. Der verbaute EA888 ist absolut ausgereift. Auch das DSG (7G) ist problemlos fahrbar. Viele Grüße

[@kemalmerdanovic7759]

@@mtn9752 Danke für die Antwort..leider bin ich schon wo anders gelandet und sogar vor paar Tagen die Bestellung abgegeben. Was änliches halt..es ist ein Charger rt 5.7 v8,fast identisch würde ich mal sagen

[@mtn9752]

@@kemalmerdanovic7759 genau. Absolut vergleichbar ;D. Ich wünsche Ihnen alles Gute mit der neuen Fahrmaschine

[@jonathanmuller5328]

Typical VW design that employs a number of themes (horizontality, angularity, 'premium'/aggressive) and yet ironically still fails to achieve a gestalt result.

[@dragospahontu]

Is the DSG7 DQ200 0CW a good gearbox?

[@edwardpickett574]

Very good review.........

[@robertbachman6459]

Do you think that a person who is 191 cm tall will feel comfortable with a panoramic roof? Will the position be comfortable appropriately on full electric seat?

[@autogefuehl]

phew that could come close! Re-check the video again and compare me (1,86 m) And also take a look here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWS7dZ2FmpxsmpI

[@robertbachman6459]

@@autogefuehl I see. Thanks :) You're doing great job.

[@FeN1xDD]

it's now comfortable with pano roof for 191 cm at all. almost touching the roof with the head.

[@nurnberg1561]

Definitely the most beautiful VW, they could put a similar front end on the Golf 8🤔

[@blue-ck9ns]

Nahhh that front end is Arteon exclusive. Just like the CC had an exclusive, better looking front end than all other VW models.

[@jozefletrich8695]

I just cant decide which one to buy, arteon or passat. I dont get why there are no iq lights on arteon..

[@Riconeeeeeeect]

yyyyyes!! that ST looks gooood!

[@kay0946]

Impressive design 👌

[@tomosima1992]

Im driving the Passat b8 right now ill prolly look to upgrade to this car in 4 years.

[@thetableflip]

VW went with the regular gear selector unlike Audi and Skoda which is not a bad thing, but kind of strange considering it has electonic e-brake and all other controls are touch-sensitive.

[@thetableflip]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru thanks for educating me :)

[@ventouxR]

from day one of dsg, vw could develope e-gear selector, but it didn't.

[@dragospahontu]

@@ventouxR it's nice to feel something mechanical

[@radoslavgeorgiev5572]

Also, die Frage für mich ist: Ist der neue Arteon besser als Superb Sportline facelift? Thomas, was denkst Du ?

[@andrewthaboss6643]

really? a plexi glass for the HUD, this is 2020 right?

[@fredericoamigo]

Good looking, but I don’t like the light bar that runs across the front.. It looks like the car has some kind of weird mustache.. The Interior starts to look dated in my opinion. However, if they just lifted the mid infotainment screen upwards, that would make the interior look way better. Also. Throw in the climate control unit from the the Audi A4, and this would be a really attractive car!

[@vladsta3833]

Keep up the good work, also the fake exhaust police

[@Kaisersozze]

Please find a better source for your music. It's awful a lot of the times. Everything else is great as usual.

[@dorstefan]

Buttons and knobs. We need them. We like them.

[@blue-ck9ns]

Yeah, not really sure what's with VW's obsession with making everything touch sensitive. It's already annoying trying to use a touchscreen while driving. The worst idea ever. The brands who offer touch pads/touch controllers for their infotainment systems is a lot better to use while driving.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@blue-ck9ns it's part of the post-Dieselgate penny-pinching. Screens have become cheap enough that, when they replace enough buttons, it's cheaper to build.

[@kimchee411]

Grrr another sweet wagon that we won't get in the US. So frustrating! I hate SUVs. I would ditch my Macan S for this.

[@SP-zu7gq]

China's FAW-VW has molded this car to an alltrack with a terrible plastic surround...

[@therealwill_i_amsonofrobin4330]

It’s a CC it was a small name change

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[@huseindjulovic1981]

Holding microphone really doesn't look good

[@heinrichvanneel978]

Arteon is not in South-Africa anymore, so sad😔

[@dr_pari]

The "air slap" always looks so weird, as a way to interact with the infotainment stack, to me.

[@dragospahontu]

Is the DSG7 DQ200 0CW a good gearbox?

[@dragospahontu]

Does this car have the rest function?

[@blue-ck9ns]

I think that got rid of that with the new climatronic system, but I could be mistaken.

[@dragospahontu]

@@blue-ck9ns yeah, that was the best feature

[@janverbanck]

This evolution towards "touch" all over the place: not my thing... In time, I can imagine statistics will prove it leads to more accidents. I have a Mercedes 2018, still mostly press or/and turn and I can do most things without looking down. Still, nice car!!

[@blue-ck9ns]

Yeah it's really dumb how VW is doing that. I even hate using a touchscreen while driving.

[@michaelgagne2871]

We should have theses shooting barke in US. Canada, they are as practiacal than SUV but way more sexier!

[@blue-ck9ns]

Nobody would buy it. It would sit on the lot and collect dust like the regular Arteon is doing.

[@michaelgagne2871]

@@blue-ck9ns I know, thats the sad thruth

[@MountainDewNI]

Infotainment being slow on a 2020 premium car is absurd.

[@aurimaslabanauskas]

Good looking car... But that fake exhaust tips...