Thank you for this!! I'm in my 40s and getting back into swimming laps after 20 years. It's amazing how much has changed!
@orangepakova25072 ай бұрын
I'm in the same journey! In my 40s, and getting back to swimming! It's an amazing experience!
@joe-hp4nk5 ай бұрын
I'm 75, swim 10,000 yards a week, and still learning how to swim. All the best.
@sdjunion5 ай бұрын
Amazing and good on you. You are a great example to follow!
@adamcrookedsmile4 ай бұрын
you're an inspiration!
@LaureceWest5 ай бұрын
Fabulous video! As an older swimmer, I learned many of the outdated methods. As a new WSI and Masters co-coach I really appreciate the clarity! For new swimmers it is far better to learn it the right way from the start. For seasoned swimmers open to technical coaching these refinements will make a huge difference. (I can't wait to get in the pool later today to try them out myself.) I'll be watching this a number of times to fully integrate each detail and I'll be sure to send others here too. Thanks again Susan!
@USMastersSwimming5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Please do let us know how it went in the pool later today.
@coolbreezedude34515 ай бұрын
Great condensed show, Took me multiple years and lessons to grasp what she taught in minutes.
@USMastersSwimming5 ай бұрын
Hope our video helps you in the pool!
@davidtydeman14344 ай бұрын
Good video as a swimming instructor and Masters coach I strongly recommend that if you want to improve find a qualified coach. It is impossible to see yourself and understand what you are doing now and what you need to do to change to a more optimal technique. I swam at National level and still have a coach who can watch and motivate me. Enjoy your swimming
@sachas40404 ай бұрын
I'm a former competitive swimmer (from ages 6-13, nothing impressive) and it's so fascinating to me to understand the *why* of why I was taught to swim in a certain way. Maybe my coaches told me, but it never really sank in (lol). I think I would've lasted longer in swimming if I had been taught to understand each movement like this.
@jeffj24954 ай бұрын
Nice video. This is drastically different from the lessons we had in the 1970's in high school swim team in San Jose and Santa Clara, CA.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Which technique do you prefer?
@jeffj24954 ай бұрын
@@USMastersSwimming I like the "new" 6 beat kick. The bigger issue is that i get toe cramps a lot more now.
@GrubbShowMedia5 ай бұрын
Which part of this was new? I would argue the kick tempo may depend on the swim. Is it a short sprint or 800m plus swim? I will decide either 2,4 or 6 beat kick based on my swim.
@diminishedreturn5 ай бұрын
Everything labeled as 'outdated' is old, and everything labeled as 'modern' is the new stuff. Hope this helps.
@J0HNPAYNE3 ай бұрын
@@diminishedreturn I believe the point being made is that what's being referred to as "new" has been mainstream coaching for years and freely available all over KZbin.
@ragweedmakesmesneeze4 ай бұрын
I was a lifeguard in the late 1980s and I remember learning from some "swim team" swimmers to imagine a pole going through the center of your body and rotating along that pole when breathing. It sounds very similar to what is described here as "new," right?
@gary44515 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I have tried to "kick from the hips" many times and it never worked for me. I eventually learned to kick by swinging the calves and the ankles down against the water. I'll go back and try kicking with the quads and hamstrings and gluts. This will be interesting.
@gary44515 ай бұрын
I'm a convert. Kicking with the quads and the hamstrings and gluts does work a lot better. Thanks Susan...
@DADAx7004 ай бұрын
@@gary4451good,to know thank you 🙏
@Tony-lq1zp4 ай бұрын
Loving the dad bud vibe
@chrisbergonzi79774 ай бұрын
Excellent instruction....really...great stuff....thank you
@86larsonrd4 ай бұрын
Just what I needed. Thanks.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@Poke_Ieap5 ай бұрын
I really liked the part where they actually explained what a six beat kick actually is. "In short, your swimmer should complete six kicks per stroke cycle or three kicks per single arm stroke."
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Thank you, we'll forward the compliment to the coach.
@NeilMalthus4 ай бұрын
The best part is losing your mind as you try to keep count over a nice long swim. It's got to be so much smarter to view the kick as an adjunct. Get your breathing right (exhale underwater and inhale behind and to side of you keeping streamlined profile), keep your head position right (head down helps keep legs up ie streamlined body profile), get your stroke right (rotate at hips to push water backwards to go forwards)... *Nice minimal flutter of legs with toes pointed provides a little thrust but mostly keeps legs near surface for that sweet-spot streamlined profile. Don't waste energy / brain power on your kick!* Thank me later
@Poke_Ieap4 ай бұрын
@@NeilMalthus thank you for this lol i definitely dont worry about counting my kicks, but ive also never heard of 2, 4, 6 stroke kicking and was curious what it actually was :p
@stevegledhill84185 ай бұрын
Been swimming for 65 yrs. Still hoping to complete a fully satisfactory 25 meter. Maybe tomorrow 😊
@USMastersSwimming5 ай бұрын
Just keep swimming! You got this.
@xcskidog69374 ай бұрын
Love your Zen approach!
@kimberlygilliam61124 ай бұрын
Except for the S-pull, I was taught these modern techniques in the late 90s. I could feel that the S-pull was a bit less controlled, but the straight pull put a lot more stress on my rotator cuffs. How do you address that extra strain?
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Implementing a shoulder dryland routines to improve strength and flexibility in the muscle group will help.
@giorgiogiacomelli69325 ай бұрын
Really clear video. Thanks for the upload. I have a question about the head position: looking slightly in your feet direction instead of keeping a neutral position by looking right to the bottom of the pool. The idea is to have some hydrodynamic downward push to help keeping the body more aligned (sinking a bit the torso and lifting the hips). I think that there’s a Chinese Olympian swimming this way 🤔
@USMastersSwimming5 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for your comment and question. Currently, the advised head position is neutral or slightly a head to aid in proper body alignment.
@poliveros555 ай бұрын
Great video. It summarized the key moves that I have gathered from watching swim videos the last 2 years. What are your thoughts about hip driven reaching? I try to sync the further glide with the completion of the EVF pull. Your input will be well appreciated
@mbrennan565 ай бұрын
Long live Terry and Total Immersion!
@cf20994 ай бұрын
Great advices 👏👏
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Your compliment is greatly appreciated.
@bredemeijer96484 ай бұрын
Angle of the elbow is different for speed vs endurance. Just saw that earlier today. Me, I can't swim like that to save my life. Love the video.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Just keep swimming. It's a process!
@Galaka1004 ай бұрын
Great video. Always something new to learn. By the way, is the best technique to breathe on both sides on a three count or on one side on a two or four count?
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Breathing every 3rd or 5th stroke for bilateral breathing is recommended in freestyle.
@robohippy5 ай бұрын
The 'snap' kick as I called it is so common in freestyle. By snap kick, I mean a mini scissor kick. I have seen this with Olympic level swimmers. With my over arm side stroke, the forgotten stroke, I was trying to eliminate the slow down/high drag part of the kick which is very similar to the breast stroke kick where most swimmers come to an almost complete stop before the stroke resumes. That is one thing I never liked about the breast stroke, as well as my feet will not turn out like that for that kick to be efficient for me. Anyway, I ended up going to a flutter kick for my OASS. I took 3 seconds off of my 50 yard sprint time in about 3 days. It eliminates that slow down part of the stroke when using the standard scissor kick. In most cases when swimmers use the 'snap kick' it is with the leg doing more of a back stroke style kick where there is less flex at the hip and more at the knee. The lower leg is more stream lined than the thigh, so I figure this is a less drag type position. Not sure, but just a thought. This snap kick is very common in the pool. For those who can do a good whip kick, if they stop during a lap, they always use the whip kick to get going again. For those of us who can't do the whip kick, we use a scissor kick. Lots of thrust, but also lots of drag, but since we are at a stand still, not much loss....
@OlliSon-c8t4 ай бұрын
I’m a swimmer beginner at age 50. Go go marine is inspiring.
@KansaSCaymanS4 ай бұрын
I guess nobody taught Katie Ledecky she should be doing a 6-beat kick in her long distance events. 😉
@cosmacosma66133 ай бұрын
We only need a six beat kick for a sprint, but for long distance 4 or 2 beat are enough.
4 ай бұрын
Are you all doing six kicks per stroke also during training? I find I’m lazy with the kicks and definitely guilty of the old technique shown here. Lots to try now :-)
@miscellaneousstuff29014 ай бұрын
Not really new. I've been coaching this way for 25 years. And you do need to use some hip flexor in the kick. If it's all quad, then it's all knee bend. Fins are a good tool, as you recommend, for simulating the feel, and they work best when swapped on and off in repeat drills. The biggest difference in today's stroke is the wider entry point you mentioned. The old S stroke was a misunderstanding. From the perspective of a person watching, it is still an s because of body rotation. But, relative the swimmer, it is almost straight back. Also beginners usually could engage lats more, but getting them to think about rhomboid and abdominals gets even more muscles engaged, balances their stroke and helps with shoulder injury prevention.
@NeilMalthus4 ай бұрын
Why baffle the beginner with talk of muscle groups? Are you teaching anatomists??? Why not just tell them to keep their head down - inhale to the side - to help keep legs close to the surface? A minimal straightish-leg kicking action (toes straight) ensures body profile is as streamlined as can be whilst adding a tiny amount of propulsion and using a minimum amount of precious energy. It kind of keeps it simple. Ideal for the beginner.
@JustinaZenOnDVD4 ай бұрын
@@NeilMalthus What about the shoulder + hips rotation you seem to voluntary obliterate? @miscellaneousstuff2901 explains well why it is necessary, except maybe for a 50 meters freestyle race, whatever the swimming level. I think it is important to take the right posture including that, even at beginner level. It is a major part of the muscle memory to assimilate, the sooner, the better.
@NeilMalthus4 ай бұрын
@@JustinaZenOnDVD We're talking beginners, yeah? I guess I should have mentioned "don't forget to use your arms" but I thought that too obvious. I think shoulder / hip rotation is a little _next level._ Apart from the obvious use of the arms in front crawl, I think maintaining the most streamlined body shape has to be up there with any half-decent coach's number 1 concerns. And to facilitate that, you want your face down in the water as much as possible with your legs rising naturally as a result (desired for that best body profile). I'm sure I'm teaching you to suck eggs here. You don't ever really need to talk muscle groups, I'd say, which was the point of my comment. Why go down the technical route? To impress your students with your knowledge of anatomy? To over-complicate things and drive the nervous swimmer away? It makes zero sense. IMHO. I hope that explains the 'voluntary obliteration' _(cough)_ for you.
@JustinaZenOnDVD4 ай бұрын
@@NeilMalthus Really sorry if my words were too critical, not fluent enough in english. This matter of knowing which technical progresses a freestyle beginner should be aware of and practice is interesting anyway! Wishing you lots of fun swimming.
@nougatbitz4 ай бұрын
I felt my lungs flooding when watching the section about how to take a breath - the idea just strikes fear in me.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Hi, try watching our freestyle technique breathing drills and workout to help!
@Pamwilliams565 ай бұрын
I think Ralph was ahead of his time when is came to stroke analysis right? Nice job Susie.
@joequillun77905 ай бұрын
6 beat kick? For a distance swimmer? I don't see Katie, SunYang, or the Thorpedo using this. Maybe their last 50 or 100.
@stuartlichty42504 ай бұрын
Right, those distance freestyle swimmers seem to use the four beat kick mostly, during the majority of a 1500, and only use two beat momentarily for reducing workload and heart rate.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Depends on the swimmer.
@anticitizen13865 ай бұрын
What happened to early vertical forearm? That's all I hear about on other youtube swimming channels for freestyle. And i remember reading how Cokie Lepinski said to pull as though we were swimming over a barrel. If EVF is now outdated, why don't you mention it as outdated? You mention the S-pull (which is really outdated), which Doc Counsilman not only created, but also discovered in elite swimmers, I believe, your point that the hand enters and exits the water in the same location. I am a U.S Masters swimmer.
@JohnDoe-gd4tg4 ай бұрын
EVF is basically described in other words at 3:33: "bend and lift your elbow" and " point fingertips to bottom..."
@feelingzhakkaas5 ай бұрын
Text box should v been at bottom corner...it's obstructing view
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Thank you, we'll let the video editor know.
@ostelot1biondi8005 ай бұрын
Sorry... which part of this is new?
@NeilMalthus4 ай бұрын
People are STILL teaching the kick to be important and not a mere adjunct, remarkably.
@pablojimenez57365 ай бұрын
The "S" pull is inefficient .....now they try to enter the water more from the top, so create momentum with a hand and arm moving more back to straigh line and avoid the "S" turbulence. You can see that in the olimpic: relentless move of the arm, as moving in slow motion to enter with the hand digging Of course, swimers need to have strenght to do a stright line arm recover, but hey!...that why they do gym exercices specifically for that. Tip for the master's coaches: they must include specific gym resistant exercises and they should relax the water trainning session following that
@emilwandel4 ай бұрын
I feel kivking slows me down. I only use it for stabilizing.
@Djurel4 ай бұрын
0:53 he’s over-gliding, creating a dead spot in the stroke cycle. 😉
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Was it a slow-mo section?
@user1name1here5 ай бұрын
Cool, I doggy paddle so arms never come out of the water and face never goes in the water.
@johnkorotki78615 ай бұрын
Thank you! Apparently im doing everything wrong😅
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Keep swimming. Learning a new technique takes time.
@masteragency52394 ай бұрын
Outdated? Like when the lady had her first swim or from when?
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
The technique has evolved over time. 😉
@chocolatedumdum25 ай бұрын
Holy cow I’m younger but my swimming was always made fun of by even younger people now I understand why.
@BelleMorue5 ай бұрын
A flexible back seems like an Olympic swimmer skill. The major issue is a kick without any torque. This kick is quick but without any grip on water. It is not efficient except for cardio. Many swimmers kick fast at the beginning and move their legs outside the water. Olympic swimmers curve their back, which looks like the motor trim on an outboard engine so yoga can make myself a faster swimmer.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
@yellowfr0g5 ай бұрын
For modern flutter kick 0:34 I think the script should have read introduced in 2012, not 1912.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
😅
@MithumDilshan_O5 ай бұрын
I think I can't swim because my body weight 😕
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Don't give up on swimming technique, it can be challenging!
@wesleytwiggs76875 ай бұрын
Good vid. Real quick, there’s no reason to put “straight line” in quotes.
@AndrewWebber665 ай бұрын
is real quick quicker than quick?
@wesleytwiggs76875 ай бұрын
@@AndrewWebber66 whatever dude. Just saying that straight line was literal. No need for quotes.
@TriMLS5 ай бұрын
Good piece. I disagree with not using your calves. I speak from experience.
@gary44515 ай бұрын
TriMLS, I am curious about how you use your calves when you kick? I swing my lower leg and to the top of my foot down when I kick.
@USMastersSwimming4 ай бұрын
Swimming is a whole boy exercise.
@gary44514 ай бұрын
@@USMastersSwimming That went right over my head. LOL
@TriMLS4 ай бұрын
@@gary4451 With the posterior chain. Up kick with freestyle.
@gary44514 ай бұрын
@@TriMLS Okay...thanks.
@bakuevents68195 ай бұрын
,😂😂😂😂😂
@schtefel4 ай бұрын
Hi USMS, do you do video analysis? I am trying to improve my freestyle swimming. If you have a couple of minutes to point out my biggest problems and how to solve them would be highly appreciated: watch?v=S6DL16aHY0Q
@NeilMalthus4 ай бұрын
The modern day flutter kick is "muscle-driven"? How can a kick be anything else??? (Joint-driven makes zero sense)