New Zealand rugby pundits react to the Springboks winning the Rugby World Cup

The Breakdown rugby show reacts to the Rugby World Cup final. #RWC2023 #TheBreakdown
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[@johannesweidemann2578]

Everytime NZ loses rugby is "not healthy" or "in crisis". No mate....NZ rugby is not healthy and in crisis when you lose, not world rugby. This was THE best world cup of all time. The best qauter finals of all time. How can you say rugby is not healthy? The advert for rugby was absolutely great!

[@raymondmaynard2438]

Rugby union won this was televised world 🌎 wide this world 🌎 cup show what rugby 🏉 union is about you could not get any better great for the sport Two great rugby nations smashing each in the final 🇿🇦🇳🇿 Had it all red card yellow cards defence attacking plays 14 against 15. And some of those tackles 🤕 score line 11/12 🇳🇿🥝without a captain Two of the worlds greatest Coaches New Zealand should keep their Fosy the Fox coach he turned the All Blacks into a world class team 1 point really I want a rematch in 4 years To watch a team with 14 players crawl off the field after a game who gave it everything they had Makes me PROUD to be a ALL BLACKS Supporter and NEW Zealander 🇳🇿🇳🇿🥝🇳🇿🏉

[@erniegouws7262]

Two words come to mind : sore losers 😂

[@surfsnow1371]

@@raymondmaynard2438 Good on you mate! someone in New Zealand actually gets rugby.

[@Bokgat]

@@raymondmaynard2438 watches rugby and writes English every four years by the look of it. Fozzy flop one of the two best coaches?? Are you kidding? They had to bring in his previous boss to save their bacon after being killed by the French in their opening round. Nz rugby on a decline. You wait. In four years they’ll not even get into the final stages like aus

[@Againstdhawa]

They real bad losers over there man it’s becoming a JOKE

[@Skallywax]

I believe Covid effected the Springboks the most coming of a World Cup win in 2019. Completely halted their momentum. That’s why their win x2 is so special to me.

[@stephdegoede8316]

I mean, training in their hotel rooms, two-by-two, via zoom, ahead of the Lions series, and still coming from behind to win it. With 0 home support. Insane.

[@willieexplore]

Indeed, no tests in 2020

[@hermanstrydom3519]

And world rugby banned Rassie with a Rugby lockdown after COVID lockdown for pointing out the obvious

[@bigpeters4428]

Nah true .I think we stopped playing for 2 years

[@stephdegoede8316]

@@bigpeters4428 18 months with no rugby, and aside from one game against Georgia and the Lions series, no test other rugby for 30 months.

[@willieexplore]

To everyone who moans about our gameplan, let me tell you something. We play rugby with our heart and soul. It may not be pretty or flashy to you, but to us it is beautiful. Every tackle, every ruck, every scrum...we give our everything. We go to those dark places and we fight for each other. Alternatively put, our gameplan incorporates characteristics such as mental toughness, resilience, grit, determination, teamwork and a never say die attitude. Surely there is a place in the game for this. And nothing stops other teams from playing a more 'attractive' brand of rugby. BOKKE!!!!!!

[@leomamofokeng5104]

@@juangolfstroom cry louder

[@surfsnow1371]

@@juangolfstroom I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder...enjoy league. kisses from the world champs

[@Mo-yd8xc]

"Our" gameplan?

[@Bokgat]

You should apply for a job at Kellogg’s and write about cocoa pops. The World Cup is now over. Back to work bafana bafana

[@noxolotshabangu8055]

A team that refused to lose!

[@chrisalheit3205]

We need NZ like NZ needs us. Greatest rivalry. Love from the green side.

[@Bokgat]

Not any more. We’ve gone to ply our 0 jet lag trade in Europe. Australiasia can shit itself

[@71bootneck]

It’s a great rivalry when they ontop.

[@justice1902]

aka "die groen kant".

[@roykeaneunofficial7832]

@@justice1902 watter kant? lol

[@ariakayleighjordan9847]

Always end of the day we are two greatest rugby nations in the southern hemisphere 🥰

[@JouNaai1448]

The funny thing for us South Africans is when we get screwed by a refs decision and we say something about it then the whole rugby world says "oh there they go blaming refs when they lose " but every time we win the opposition blames the ref 😂😂😂😂 make it make sense.

[@monunyabidness5949]

First "Suzie" in 1995, and now the refs. I couldn't roll my eyes harder!

[@robinwilson730]

Well done South Africa for superhuman effort to win for a fourth time. Massive respect to New Zealand for the way they took such a narrow loss with good grace. Both teams were winners in different ways.

[@SoCalDreaming87]

❤❤❤ This is such a classy comment.

[@Mo-yd8xc]

​@@SoCalDreaming87ya, NZ won a 2nd place medal.😂

[@hun2318]

Respect from SA

[@chezzycj777]

Eat your words Jeff Wilson. " I think that this is the best that the Springboks play, there is nothing for them after this" After the Ireland Game.

[@UglyKidJoe71]

Well that clearly didn't age well

[@sakabula2357]

Jeff was a great player..but that's where it stopped

[@sakabula2357]

​@fourmoreyears lol..love your username...

[@user-kj8lq7mo2s]

At least Jeff is commenting here showing a brave face even though with sour grape comments BUT were is his MATE who even hates the BOKS more than olj Jeff were is that great wingerand he really was great as a player were is the SIR why is he been very inconspicuous and dead SILENT since the end of the WC won by the MIGHTY SPRINGBOKS not a peep or tweet from him dead silence methinks he don't like chowing down on heaps of HUMBLE PIE.

[@jaksdt]

Saffa here. It's refreshing to see a video where people are not making excuses. I know New Zealand have been complaining about the officiating, but I think they were lucky not to have gotten two red cards. That leg injury on Bongi was planned and you can clearly see that it was done on purpose. They played dirty in the final and it came back to bite them. That being said, they did brilliantly to push SA all the way with just 14 men. They should be proud.

[@Simonmoke71]

It was planned, so he knew bongi was going to fall at that moment and it was planned right there and then to fall on his leg.

[@jarednair3478]

Frizzel aimed to injur Bongis knee yes. Did they plan it. Very possible as they knew no Bongi line outs and scrums won't be as strong. Anyway we still won 🇿🇦🍺 cya in 4 years 😂

[@mohaleSlebea776]

Which team between the two had a difficult path to the final? Once that is answered it becomes clear the deserving team won the final. No need to come up with theories

[@ariakayleighjordan9847]

The Springboks

[@ImmortalChessDaily]

​@@ariakayleighjordan9847Jordie Barret made the most meters 109. From 16 carries. That just under 7m per carry. PSDT probably brought it down to 5m. Add the missed kick. Suddenly it doesn't matter. Source Mils Muliaina if he was a Bok. Also Mils as a AB Jordie made a match best 109 meters. Rules are against us. That should be worth a try. I also hate Singapore after a loss.

[@ariakayleighjordan9847]

@@ImmortalChessDaily with the All Blacks Discipline and common errors and mistakes is what got the best of them and I'm certain the red card on Sam cane also could have put them off focus too especially with the missed conversion kicks from Jordie and Richie had they succeeded it would have been an All Black win 15 - 11 the Springboks won by luck i mean I admit our boys haven't been performing their best and it's a growing concern for the next world cup on whether we can win it again

[@marcominny9912]

@@ImmortalChessDaily anybody can run rings around Namibia, Italy, Uruguay and the way the pumas performed in this tournament them too. You had one solid game, a tired Irish team. Stop bluffing yourself

[@08padam]

@@marcominny9912 I wonder why Rassie did not do any video on the refs this time. I mean Kolisi and Etzebeth collisions in the final, Kolbe starting on the line in the 1/4 when you're supposed to be BEHIND the line on a conversion... All the close calls went Bok's way in these two games... They spent 4 years moaning about the ref, starting a conspiracy theory at every game, and now call people bad loosers. What an absolute joke

[@robroy8485]

There was not a single scuffle or altercation in the game. Just absolute mutual respect with 30 men doing battle against each other. NZ can be proud , gracious and humble in defeat too. England you can learn something here.

[@Smiley0725]

100%√√

[@khoibrewmzansi3433]

Actually 29 men for most😂😊😊😊😊😊

[@UglyKidJoe71]

@@khoibrewmzansi3433ouch! true though

[@excusablehoneybee4599]

Love when saffas pretend they have a team of angels. Ignorance is bliss. One of the dirtiest teams in world rugby

[@robertobetta9602]

Get your facts straight. It was 29 men not 30.

[@dougsaunders8109]

As a Pom, come finals I was backing NZ. Three things stop bagging on about the draw. 2015 we went out in our home World Cup to Wales and Australia. It happens beat the teams in front of you. Secondly,Foster is a great coach, the players tell you that, through the backing of Foster. Third refs did not lose you the game, Cane being sent off is the game now. England had a player sent off in the first match for a high tackle, who is famed for chop tackles. He got it wrong. The abuse sent to Wayne Barns has now got him to retire, that is not rugby and the ‘supporters’ should be ashamed SA are very good at tournament rugby over the last few years end of

[@StaalBurgher0]

Barnes did not retire because of "abuse". He retired because he is 44.

[@dougsaunders8109]

@@StaalBurgher0 not what his statement and wife said following death threats to him, his wife and children. Still not rugby even if that was not the main reason

[@wot4922]

​@@StaalBurgher0he's s ref. As long as he is healthy and fit and can keep up, his age doesn't matter. He isn't a player.

[@lemonkaysweet]

South Africa are dangerous come knockout stages, especially final match🤷

[@dougsaunders8109]

@@lemonkaysweet yep agreed but so is any other team. I have been listening to a really good podcast over the last few years. One point which keeps coming up, come RWC one bad decision players or officials, bounce of the ball or just bad day you are out.

[@grantray-howett7600]

What does SA have to do to get the credit they deserve ? Just exasperated . AB’s , always good . The Boks won . End of

[@Mo-yd8xc]

Keep winning world cups.

[@jeffreykgatitsoe627]

I've stopped holding out for that from these other Nations. We just need to continue winning World Cups

[@ducksmad]

Did you watch the video? There was plenty of praise for SA in this video.

[@fourieorama]

@@ducksmad That was my take out as well.

[@smoothoperator1862]

Win a proper game of rugby? Not 14 against 15. Not kicking the ball away in hopes of penalties. Just play the game. Not stoppages every 2 seconds. Everything. The way y’all play is lame

[@nosiphosobekwa9316]

South Africa would rather lose to Newzealand than any other country. We love you Newzealand. You are the best team, but no background support at home. When the team plays everybody home must stand up and fight sending messages, celebrating for the team that has reached the final. ABs are the best like SA. They are not losers at all. 👏👏👏👏 ABs = Boks anyone could have won. We love you ABs , lot of support in SA, including my son. From 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Speak for yourself. Many South Africans, me included, can't stand them. I would rather support England over them, which I do.

[@KekeHimona]

@nosiphisbekwa…Thankyou for your kind words. They mean so much. Much love to you and your family

[@coisjvr777]

Finally some great feedback from NZ media regarding the final and not just blaming. Well done and thank you.

[@markshields5883]

Well done South Africa Rugby's greatest nation

[@commentwell3870]

All things given, the best team won!

[@Erock1275]

No.

[@bretts7029]

No doubt about it!

[@commentwell3870]

@@Erock1275 yes aundoubtedly, undoubtedl!

[@Erock1275]

@@commentwell3870 Can't be playing against 14 Men

[@UglyKidJoe71]

100% The Springboks had to dig deep after the most gruelling possible path they could have had to claim the trophy. NZ gave it their all so credit where it's due, they put up one hell of a fight.

[@kwaailight]

The All Blacks managed to make a riveting contest of it with a man down for a long time. They can really be proud of their performance.

[@user-it9vu9dh1d]

not a man down- a boy down- ABs played better with the flake out of the way

[@Cpernaum]

across the Internet they are disputing the result, don't respect those who don't respect you.

[@ducksmad]

@@user-it9vu9dh1dyou must have missed the quarterfinal vs Ireland

[@onelokie]

@@Cpernaum Ha ha ha!!!

[@jobe1888]

This man down narrative is nonsense. Springboks had 2 yellows too. Balanced.

[@schonem11]

NZ is no different to the pommies. They are never happy with a loss. They never give the opponents the respect they deserve. Fact is. This was a world cup final. Both teams deserved to be there. It is true that SA had the hardest run ever in a world cup pool. But the fact is that decisions on the field show on the score board. All 3teams teams. France, England and New Zealand played well. But they did not use the time effectively. This is why SA won. Battle hardened and able to just dig enough to win. This was an awesome world cup final.

[@denant2582]

This is seriously great commentary. It isn't biased, over emotional or bitter. It is completely fair and perceptive. Nice.

[@stephdegoede8316]

Also, JK is MIA.

[@phillipmurray689]

In your dreams! This is bias as hell!!!

[@ducksmad]

@@phillipmurray689 you clearly didn’t watch the video. Best you watch rather than comment blindly.

[@phillipmurray689]

I certainly did@@ducksmad! I will quote: "The South Africans will be disappointed with the way they play..." What??? That is 1 of Boss' comments (4:14). We won a world cup dude!! Who cares how we played??!!!. Steve Hansen points out moments in the game where he did not agree with ref calls and criticized the TMO bunker after NZ were the ones mainly calling for more TMO involvement a year ago. NZ fans are the worst losers ever!!! I love the All Blacks and the rivalry with the boks, but common man, give credit where credit is due and stop blaming the ref, the bunker system and everything else, You had your opportunities in the final and you did not take it!

[@ContendformyFaith]

Newsflash. South Africans don't care what NZ think

[@michaelmeyer4346]

As a South African 🇿🇦 Together with many South Africans have loads of Respect for IAN FOSTER with everything he has Gone through 😢 in New Zealand 🇳🇿 A Brilliant Coach BUT MOST OF ALL He’s a Great Human Being Would Love Him As South Africa 🇿🇦 Coach

[@pieterbrits6770]

This is why us South Africans & the world loves the AB’s & New Zealand as a country. Good sportsmanship, never point fingers & plays a super entertaining game of rugby we all love. Sad for your loss and grateful to have shared the final with you guys. Cheers to our next meeting 🏉🇳🇿🇿🇦🍻

[@LesleyStuart-lp2yz]

um - not every SAfrican "loves" the Nzers

[@pieterbrits6770]

@@LesleyStuart-lp2yz fair enough 😊

[@pookey06]

​@@LesleyStuart-lp2yzwhat!? As a South African, I've never met a South African who doesn't love the ABs.

[@LesleyStuart-lp2yz]

@@pookey06 I know several other SAfricans who definitely do NOT love the Nzers, nor their fans - and I am one of them ! I support any team that plays against them .. except for the Australians

[@marcominny9912]

under what rock have you been living. Kiwi's have been pissing themselves sour crying over the refs since the loss. Great sportsmanship my ass.

[@reechimz4602]

The only reason why boks and ABs are a set away from the rest is the mutual respect. No slagging. Win or lose theres acknowledgement of the rivalry and mutual respect. Better luck next time ABs, as a bok fan i feel with the draw we had we deserved to win it

[@ariakayleighjordan9847]

I feel the All Blacks are going to punish us in the next year Rugby Championship 😅

[@reechimz4602]

@@ariakayleighjordan9847 they most likely will. Will terrible and inconsistent in-between WCs and for some reason peak WC😂

[@UglyKidJoe71]

Yeah. Credit to the Bokke for getting through the 'pool of death', playing the other 5 of the top 6 teams in the world and going all the way. Huge respect! 👏

[@deebrowne1136]

Totally agree with you as a spring Bok supporter ♥️♥️🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@shaunspies1108]

Watching the MELTDOWN, on the MELTDOWN!

[@surfsnow1371]

I only came for the tears

[@ducksmad]

You clearly didn’t watch the video

[@mashudumabege2193]

As a South American I don't understand why New Zealanders are not happy. That was one of my all-time final in all sporting history... hands up to New Zealand 🇳🇿. With a red card and put in that performance, man, that was hell of a game. Go bokke 🎉🎉, lekker. We proud of our guy's.

[@KekeHimona]

NZL aren’t happy because of the inconsistencies of referee and the interference of TMOs in game. NZL have congratulated and stated that the Springboks won. All NZL want is consistency and for TMOs to not interfere and referee the game in replay mode

[@timothyprinsloo2852]

@@KekeHimona Like Rassie Erasmus pionted out 4 years ago ena the hall world went up in arms and he got band from attending the games... Maby if NZ backed Rassie then things could be different (Rassie Erasmus has been banned for two matches by World Rugby and will miss South Africa’s visit to Twickenham on 26 November following a series of social media posts which included implicit criticism of Wayne Barnes’ refereeing performance.) O yes remember SA pointing this out and getting lambasted by the word press On 18 November 2021, Erasmus was suspended from all matchday activities for 10 months. Erasmus was also banned from all rugby activities for two months after six misconduct charges were brought against him, The content of Erasmus’s video it highlighted the problems the sport faces: inconsistent officiating and a lack of consistent protocols to address issues between teams and officials.

[@KekeHimona]

@@timothyprinsloo2852 I do respect and acknowledge this. World Rugby were responsible for his ban and treatment…not NZL. It appears very evident World Rugby will not allow anyone to condemn or criticise and they will not take ownership of problems that are pointed out to them. I would hope that this does not mean that no other country or coach or manager has to be stopped from lodging complaints, queries or feedback regarding games played in future.

[@MikeNEVILLE-xf4bc]

It was rubbish..only you can be happy with winning by cheating...😂😂😂

[@Sabundy]

​@@MikeNEVILLE-xf4bc who cheated?

[@markbrown-sb2zm]

We won 35-7 and Jeffrey said we couldnt beat them. Thing is Jeffrey, they also said the Titanic couldn't sink.

[@Againstdhawa]

NZRU so entitled bro then when abs get tipped over it’s major shock

[@dirkhuman4087]

😂

[@smoothoperator1862]

What’s our head to head matchup? 1 win means nothing

[@matthewvanrensburg3824]

@@smoothoperator1862 The 6 odd years of Rassie/Nienaber, its 5 wins each, 1 draw and Boks ahead on points difference. Quite the difference when politics gets kicked to the kerb for a bit in for SA sport.

[@smoothoperator1862]

@@matthewvanrensburg3824 have we only been playing y’all for 6 years is it? This is your guys greatest team of all time compared to possibly our worst lol

[@moes786121]

Rassie and the Bokke always❤❤😂

[@surfsnow1371]

I LOVE IT! I just came for the tears....

[@LeonKlynsmith-wk6oh]

The 2023 Springboks are the best rugby team ever in the history of rugby !!

[@shaheempashua6924]

I love how they've spun this man down story Truth is New Zealand was the most ill disciplined team at the tournament I remember Twickenham and other games leading up to the showpiece they refuse to lower by they I mean Sam Kane and yes others but Sam has a history of lazy defending The cards throughout the tourney surely is not just poor officiating as well as poor officiating benefited you none the same My point here is you're a man down largely due to your team having an ill disciplined approach it's not new either 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@brianmpofu2295]

💯! I also believe Mbongi was taken put purposely. No talks about that. That was the real Red card imho

[@wot4922]

​@@brianmpofu2295Bongi.

[@ajm6464]

No I read NZ laid a complaint against the referee, who know decided to hang up his boots himself after 17yrs. NZ was quite rightly the most ill disciplined team in the tournament. They finished 14 men in the warm up game 35-7 too, had a few cards throughout and finished 14 men vs SA in the final too plus a yellow. So blame yourself NZ, the fault lies between an ill disciplined young NZ generation vs Ian Foster who cannot manage this part of the game, hence he's not the NZ couch anymore, period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ducksmad]

@@brianmpofu2295taken out because an All Black slipped and landed backwards where he couldn’t see where he was landing? Are you suggesting ABs had a dirty game play 2 min into the game? Lucky you’re an unimportant individual as say that in the media and you’d be taken to court and bankrupted.

[@brianmpofu2295]

@ducksmad Precisely. I picked up on it after reviewing the game. Injury to key personnel is the Achilles heel of the 7-1 split. ABs knew this. Good things for TMOs that we have slow motion or else it would be easy to miss. That sumo roll on a person's knee should be a RED straight up. Mbongi's replacement did well with his performance however the SA never recovered from the loss of Mbongi.

[@JAKLAR79]

I dont want to ever hear so much as a peep from an All Black fan when a Bok fan calls out bad officiating ever again.

[@ducksmad]

You clearly did not watch this video

[@lonwabiso1]

The Boks game style objectivea are very different to ABs. They can give you the ball and attack without the Ball (that's a clear game plan!) It might not be up to the romantic ideals of some. The intrisics are all based on winning a game of rugby...i stress Rugby ie. A good pack with good tight, set piece play. Good generals to apply pressure and proper exits. Good back line for when opportunity comes. The game is about where the ball ends up not just how long you had it. Big ups to the ABs. Go Bokke🇿🇦...next up total backs intergration!

[@RD-sp5us]

Don't you know? They're the only ones who know how to play the game. The only ones who play the game the way it should be played. I hope we continue this teams development where our backline will feature more and more. Usually we rip up the script and throw it into the fire and start again. Hardly ever do we kick on within the WC cycle. Covid maybe prevented them last time round, maybe, but it's going to be real interesting if we continue the development of our backline flair. Irresistible at times

[@carywilliams6738]

20 minute red cards. Thoughts?

[@stevenmills9030]

Love this show. I appreciate you talk rugby and the love for it. You obviously support the ABs but there is a appreciation for the game.

[@joevanwyk381]

Great game against our greatest rivals. Huge respect to NZ. Our boys had to dig deep to come out on top but it took nothing away from the All Black's effort. Thank you France 🇫🇷 for a wonderful tournament. BOKKE!!! South Africa 🇿🇦 ♥️ Ons vir jou Suid Afrika!!!

[@aluncurtis6124]

In England the All Blacks were viewed as a momentary obstacle to easily overcome on the way to ultimate victory for France or Ireland. you guys were amazing!

[@affiliateclimbmax9287]

Boks won on an empty tank still cant believe it

[@HerbalTee29]

Only a point it is believable lol

[@citedcanvas85]

Actually we did it on reserve😂

[@UglyKidJoe71]

For sure. Let's not forget what they had to overcome to get there 🏆💪Pretty amazing achievement

[@nickyd922]

Absolutely magnificent test match

[@user-kj8lq7mo2s]

Why the changed line-up where are the two clowns the SIR and his minion busy eating HUMBLE PIE I assume.

[@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns]

New Zealanders thought that they would have a strangle hold on the Webb Ellis cup for a long time. Now they just witnessed another nation beat them to 4 world cups. South Africa are the most successful nation in the history of the rugby world cup. Only nation with 4 world cups! Damn🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@johnjames6620]

Only nation also with: (1) 50% success rate at RWC's (2) Back-to-back RWC wins away from home (3) Winning Rugby Championships and RWC in same year (4) Winning on 3 continents (5) Never losing a RWC final and (6) More than 2 RWC wins away from home.

[@larrymeyer2917]

Had mention, great commentary from a bunch that is informed on the game and display no grudge. On point guys.

[@eli7742]

All teams were affected by the pandemic. Some of the commentary is utter nonsense, particularly the one by studio pundits - sounds a bit too bitter and a hard pill to swallow the fact that NZ lost. South Africa won fair and square. Congratulations to the Boss, commiseration to the All Blacks.

[@seanharmse2893]

Both teams played in the same weather conditions, the sun dit not shine on the one and on the other it rained. Covid had an affect on all sports teams across the world not only some, everybody was affected. I see Jeff Wilson can still not say the the Springboks was better on the day. He had a lot to say about the Bokke, and not good things, during the tournament on Rugby Pass. Where is John Kirwan, he also had no good words about the Bokke on the program always breaking them down. Don't want to face the rugby public now I assume. Both team can be proud of their game on the day, they all played their hearts out, like always.

[@diogeneslantern18]

No Jeff Wilson or John Kirwan? Lol

[@myshepspud1]

Jeff Wilson is talking now.

[@SAS477]

great discussion. First honest examination of the ABs and Workd Cup. Love your honesty. ABWill be back. From a Saffer. 🇿🇦

[@mcguystein8130]

Well mentioned about the Boks losing their hooker and thus effectively line-outs for 75 minutes of the game. From memory, Cane went off in 27th minute, so effectively the ABs were one man short for about 45 minutes of the game if one takes into account the other three cards. The red card was unfortunate, but fair result in the end with Boks defending like their lives depended on it.

[@priscillapietersen7850]

Siya got a yellow card and Cheslin another. So for 20 minutes the Boks were also down to 14 men. Meaning the All Blacks were only 25 minutes with 14 men!

[@seloaneronald2462]

What I like about that final is, respect have been earned. We won 2019 world cup and all new zealand were saying we didn't beat them that's why we won....now this one we beat them and they wouldn't have excuses and back to back

[@Skallywax]

Great opponents 🇳🇿

[@williameng368]

There is a new New Zealand wine now, made from sour grapes

[@ducksmad]

You clearly didn’t watch the video

[@dionmatthews7319]

Nz 69 wins sa 35 enough said

[@williameng368]

@@dionmatthews7319 SA most world cups of all time = GOAT

[@henrypretorius1440]

It was a great game, really nerve wrecking, really proud of the Springboks on their 4th World Cup win. Played 8 World cup's and won 4. AB's had a great game much respect to them, they really showed great character with 14 men on the field. Southern Hemisphere rugby is about never giving up until the final whistle, and that's why this rivalry will always be this special. Thank you for a great final 🏆

[@reniervanheerden6830]

The Springboks plan was simple, but effective; the second a AB touched the ball, make him wish he didn't. The end.

[@MultiGrick]

Side joke made about Boks not playing rugby.. Remember the 35-7 drumming at Twickers? Boks led 99% of the final and was simply managing the game. If NZ were better and took the lead, the boks would've for sure run them ragged- they just didn't have to. Playing 80 without a hooker neutralized the scrums and mauls- amazing that the boks still won.

[@LonaSomlota]

The whole world cup was designed to make sure the Springboks don't win. No matter what happens with officiating the springboks will always come out on top because their Discipline is the best in world rugby.

[@mrange20]

This is good commentary. Good luck to AB's from Saffa

[@robertsnodgrass2599]

The score was 12-11 at the 58 minute mark and there it remained... for 10 of those last 20 minutes, both teams had 14 men on the field... everything else aside that is where the game was ultimately won and lost.

[@nic0072]

Apart from the fact that the AB "try" was not a try...

[@petes9524]

ABs 62% territory except for the last 14 minutes where the Boks had 72%. Go figure.

[@ducksmad]

@@nic0072it was a try but okay.

[@smoothoperator1862]

@@nic0072how was it not??

[@Alias-gy3tz]

​@@smoothoperator1862it came off a clear forward pass, get your eyes tested. It was no trie.

[@dirk_v]

That last pass of the NZ try went forward!

[@Jbza07]

Imagine how the Springboks would have crushed the All Blacks if they did not get rid of Bongi to screw up the scrums and line outs of the Springboks by dirty tactics.

[@raynierllewis2827]

In between we won the lion's tour.forgot?

[@MAAF808]

Portugal fan here, NZ's attacking, fearless, fluid and absolutely razor-sharp style of play was definitely the one that made me fall in love with a sport that had no national expression. Lomu was one of the symbols of my adolescence, along with Jordan, Senna and Ronaldo Nazário. For me, the ABs will always be the definition of rugby at its best. And to see a nation of just 5 million people so well represented by several generations of athletes in their culture and identity, in victory and defeat, gives me a great sense of connection and justice to what sport should really mean. The ABs are legendary here and remain at the top of the food chain for many of us. 🌿🇳🇿

[@user-kj8lq7mo2s]

Interesting stat here showing the massive RIVALRY Between the two TITANS of rugby. ALL BLACKS GREATEST PLAYER LOMU NEVER NEVER EVER CROSSED THE LINE AND SCORED A SINGLE TRY AGAINST THE MIGHTY SPRINGBOKS.

[@andyhunter5869]

South Africa winning is good for the world game. Thousands of young South African boys and girls are now inspired to play rugby and get out of poverty. And with America, Japan and Europe’s many clubs needing a good pipeline of players, the millions of young South Africans can fill their rosters. Don’t be surprised if you see an American Eagles team full of South African players come 2031. Or Japan. And most of the European clubs. This was actually Graham Henry’s plan when he went to wales - go to South Africa and give school boys scholarships to come to wales and eventually play for them. He just couldn’t get the clubs on side. But now, the need for players by traditionally good countries who are struggling, and emerging countries who can’t produce talent fast enough, now have a potential talent pool to exploit. And the players get to leave their terrible country and it’s awful corruption and crime behind for a better life.

[@Bokgat]

Nice point. As you say the pipeline can come from anywhere in the name of the sport

[@andyhunter5869]

@@Bokgat I just hope players from SA use rugby as a catalyst for change personally and professionally. University scholarships, an income for their families, allowing them to travel, relocate, improve their lives and provide better outcomes for their kids all through rugby is a good thing. And I hope the springboks have inspired and motivated them to do so.

[@shaheempashua6924]

My hope is that the African continent steps up and start really focusing on the sport imagine a strong Nigerian or Ivorian rugby nation somewhere down the line Or the Egyptians and Moroccans derby and playing open expansive rugby while others play defensive opportunistic etc That would for me be the ultimate prize 🇿🇦❤️

[@alabama1413]

I disagree. If a team can only make it to the Final by one point victories, it shows that they’re not as good as they’re being credited for. Playing against 14 men, scraping another win by a single point is nothing to be proud of. Ireland beat the Bollocks easily as did France against NZ. The officiating in the Final was poor & the TMO s disgrace with the Sam Kane red card. An easily forgettable Final for real rugby supporters

[@JesseoverPessi]

@@alabama1413”real rugby supporters” your tears are real South Africa are the best team in the world and winning by 1 point shows how perseverant they are. Your point is dumb.

[@jpsteen9660]

I am so happy that you guys are being more neutral. You start to acknowledge thst SA had to overcome. Crowds, hooker, forward try, 3 tough, tough, games before the final.

[@lukemartins4617]

SALTY SALTY so SALTY!! Spent the whole show moaning about Ref instead of reflecting. That was the wrong game plan. In a wet final, you keep the ball tight and take the points when you can. BASIC

[@ducksmad]

You clearly did not watch this video.

[@smoothoperator1862]

We didn’t all get free yellows to get points off

[@Camino2017]

I’m at the 6 minute mark and haven’t heard the ref being blamed. Did hear discussion about ABs decision- making at critical times and credit being given to the Springboks though.

[@smoothoperator1862]

@@Camino2017 decision making might’ve been better if our captain wasn’t red carded too lol

[@Camino2017]

@@smoothoperator1862 True, we need to teach our players how to tackle properly. I think it’s an issue right through all the grades. We adopted a league style ball and all tackle when the laws were different however since the focus on head injuries we seem to have taken the longest out of Tier 1 teams to adapt. We need to have a close look at how the Irish make dominant tackles and have one of the best discipline records I.e. few head clashes.

[@livsambo]

In a nutshell Springboks took all the opportunities they had to kick to the post, and at the other hand the All Blacks they squandered the opportunities they had to kick to the post. All Blacks decisions making in the pitch failed them, they forced to score tries instead of attempting to kick to the post. Even after they saw that the Springboks defence was solid as wall, AB didn't change their strategy. All together AB had 10 penalties vs 5 of Springboks. Springboks made their attentions clear from the very beginning, that all the kick able penalties, they will kick to the post and get 3 points. At the end of the day, life doesn't owe anyone anything, and the one who is deserving is the one who convert their opportunities in to points. Thank you Springboks South Africa needed this win. I ❤ you so much💯💯💯💯🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪💪👑👑🙏

[@renewablefuelsanalyst8263]

well the ABs did not kick that well throughout the whole world cup (when under pressure) so it would make sense to rather go for a try. Just like SA cannot play the same gameplan with Manie Libbok as he is not solid under pressure, kicking for posts so they have to revert to a running game. SA played the same gameplan against Ireland in the group stages that they played in the final. The only difference is that in the final they had a dependable kicker

[@UglyKidJoe71]

I tend to agree. The Boks strategy worked whereas the All Blacks one didn't. It's 'finals rugby' between these two teams! It was always going to be fine margins. Viva AmaBokoBoko 🇿🇦💪

[@jkmb5758]

Covid hurt ABs.They sidelined the SA teams and ultimately pushed them into switching to northern hemisphere, a move I had been advocating for since before the 2019 WC and which has been to the Bok's benefit and AB's detriment.

[@antslim168]

Respect to the ABs, they take it on the chin and move on. Saffers Rule!!!!!!

[@royroyston8480]

Hansen was totally ungracious

[@danielf4503]

If only

[@kennywilliams520]

Great fair commentary.

[@michaelwebber4619]

do another hakka boys

[@TheRealStevovo]

RWC 2023 card stats NZ Red: 2 Yellow: 5 SA Red: 0 Yellow: 3

[@UglyKidJoe71]

Interesting stat thanks 👍

[@tomsawyer4321]

Salt will be NZ's biggest export soon. The bad sportsmanship from France, Ireland, England and finally NZ after this world cup is only making the victory ever sweeter. Rassie highlighted reffing discrepancies during the Lions tour, was railroaded by a leaked video he only ever sent to the IRB ref association and you all ganged up against him and banned him for a year so forgive me for not caring

[@ducksmad]

You clearly did not watch this video.

[@tomsawyer4321]

​@ducksmad You clearly don't understand the point I was making. Rassie got banned for a year and world rugby roundly condemned him some pundits calling for a lifetime ban. He received no support from anybody in the major rugby nations they all piled on him. Now we have to listen to England, Ireland, France and NZ all blaming the ref for getting knocked out. NZ have even taken it to the next level by lodging a formal complaint about the ref. Notice nobody has leaked their complaints like they leaked Rassies video. Rassie took the time from the Lions tour to the RWC and sorted the Boks discipline issues out whilst the other big sides arrogantly expected refs to always blow in their favor against the Boks.....childish and amateurish sums up NZ, ENG, IRE, FRA expecting everything to be in their favor. Suck it up and improve or carry on the same to the joy of Bok fans around the world

[@Alias-gy3tz]

​​@@ducksmadwe did, keep crying. AB's are the worst losers on the planet. Pathetic

[@antonferreria1905]

@@ducksmad You should be called DUCK HEAD with all the noise you making, cry a river and swim in it.

[@IronCross666]

I feel sad for the AB players, when they arrived in NZ there was only a hand full of supporters, a big contrast to the Springboks arriving home. All Blacks are the biggest brand in rugby, and they should be supported by the whole of NZ, win or lose, good or not so good coach.

[@MikeNEVILLE-xf4bc]

Aww they living in ur head rent free, at least the lights were on.

[@wot4922]

This WC was awful....booing, poor sportsmanship, abuse and death threats. The Japan WC stands out because the Japanese people gave respect and the respect was returned.

[@Andrewza1]

Agreed France was a very bad host.

[@Mikellejarza736]

AB thought they could overpower the springboks, it was not to be.

[@kpm25]

No they didn't. They always knew it would be one-sided with regards to physicality, they played their running game but just made too many mistakes.

[@anfg7376]

what a particularly daft comment

[@markfulton4338]

Nz Played their sox off, so did the Boks! I will always respect the ABs as a Bok supporters! Big love to NZ and thanks for a great game of rugby 🏉 👏 👍 🙌

[@UglyKidJoe71]

Quality comment here 👍I love the Springbok vs All Blacks rivalry. Rugby wins 🏉

[@andreschell1301]

the best breakdown of a rugby game i have ever seen, from a RSA supporter, respect to you NZL! 2019 WC runner ups wouldn't even wear there silver medals, NZL players wore there medals with proud! May NZL bounce back like i know they would, that is when NZL is most dangerous. Southern Rugby Is STRONG!

[@markhackney8244]

The whole thing is just so very sad. Wayne Barnes blah blah. The TMO blah blah. Sam Cane blah blah. Spectators leaving the game in droves (well maybe in New Zealand) blah blah. Everyone is to blame blah blah. Sad from the point of view that the World has to listen to this moaning and groaning for another four years.

[@ducksmad]

lol you’ve mentioned nothing that is discussed in this video, well done 😂

[@markhackney8244]

@@ducksmad Shame man do you have short attention span? Try watching it again. You didn’t watch Steve Hansen talking..or were you asleep by then 😂😂

[@ducksmad]

@@markhackney8244 it’s you who lacks comprehension skills. Double shame on you. You watch it again and tell me where he blames Wayne Barnes or TMO for the outcome? Nobody is watching the game for the TMO 😂

[@markhackney8244]

@@ducksmad as I said. Shame.

[@ducksmad]

@@markhackney8244 yes, it is a great shame you lack basic comprehension 😂

[@jaconortje5009]

Real issue for the AB's the last few years has been discipline, now that the TMO plays a more active role during the game and seeks out dangerous hits and stuff now the AB pundits want the TMO intervention gone? So would you rather have a few 1-2min stops during a game to check foul play or would you just prefer other teams to tackle people in a dangerous manner and complain about it afterwards? It's always something else is the problem not us with the AB's, pundits always advocating for rule changes to suite the AB's style of game, mates rugby union is not only for the AB's its a world sport. Massive respect for their players, some of the best in the world, but their former players who become pundits and other pundits I cannot stand.

[@peterlbaldwin511]

I would like to add, that it does appear that many in the "ALL BLACKS" camp, really want the "T.M.O's" gone.. Could it be that they have realised that now their previously "undetected", questionable, if not "underhanded" tactics are at last being "scrutinised"..? It seems to me, that such underhanded, if not downright illegal tactics, may well have helped build the side's "Powerhouse" reputation, in times past. Now they cannot use them and perhaps have to learn how to play "Legitimate" Rugby...? Just saying.....

[@smoothoperator1862]

Yea if that TMO is fair? We had to head clashes yet only one was a red card

[@Alias-gy3tz]

​​@@smoothoperator1862there was a trie scored from a forward pass, no intervention or review. Cry more

[@smoothoperator1862]

@@Alias-gy3tz the same try that was taken back after 10 phases and we were forced to do it all again? That one?

[@Gilescowdemdem]

​@@smoothoperator1862cool, so you don't know the rules then?

[@yandisamhlungu3182]

Goldie didn't utter a word about the Boks lmfaooo love to see it..

[@user-it9vu9dh1d]

ABs were always down to 14 if cane was on the field or not

[@Abdul-kt4jq]

Shit comment

[@user-it9vu9dh1d]

pundits, players around the world have been asking for years why ABs weakest player is captain- great to see the fizzier gone- the flake choker needs to follow fizzer out the door

[@ducksmad]

Missed the quarterfinal clearly.

[@Mo-yd8xc]

I need to see the faces of Wilson & Kirwan. Why are they hiding?

[@user-jt6py1pf5r]

JK was there … he was talking through the chap who looks like a ventriloquist’s dummy.

[@avishjhugroo2473]

Kiwis are becoming a Rugby league team 😂😂

[@SoCalDreaming87]

All Blacks are the pinnacle team in rugby. Always. They are the benchmark and have a superb structure and culture. South Africans respect the All Blacks immensely❤

[@fractalnomics]

Lots edited out here. Did it go up to the TMO?

[@colsjit]

From a SA, I love these pundits! I really can’t stand Matt and the other Scottish pundits

[@daronmann7159]

Hey! How are you guys coping? Ok I hope? What happened? Was it the ref? I heard it was the ref...😢

[@ducksmad]

Watch the video. Barely any mention of the ref… really dumb comment.

[@nateepp2410]

More of a dumb person tbh

[@riaanbooysen6934]

Rassie did magic with the Green Machine....NZ did good after France opening match....even blew the Irish away.....in the end Rugby was beautiful between the Southern Kings NZ & RSA

[@robertmariu6783]

Thanks to Joe and Jason!

[@toogyman]

Apparently the Roman god Saturn has agreed to give up his day whenever there’s a Rugby World Cup on , during that period it will be universally renamed Saffaday !

[@Bokgat]

Call it how you want ladies. Ya still had to have Hansen to bail him out

[@Againstdhawa]

Part of the entitled OLD BOYS club they even call him sir Hansen .

[@ducksmad]

@@AgainstdhawaI mean, that is his official title…

[@propellerhead428]

The knockout stage was one of the best on record

[@lukasMey]

I'm going to say it, the All Blacks were at the best when the SA teams were part of the Super Rugby. Now New Zealand has the Australian teams and that's it.

[@mikezog1030]

Really? Not a single comment about how cynical it was for Frizell to target Mbonambi's knee straight out of the blocks? If those are the strategic decisions that made by coaching staff, then good riddance to Fossie.

[@Againstdhawa]

Yeah that was a deliberate targeted assault

[@ducksmad]

lol it was an accident. He slipped and fell backwards. Should not have even been a penalty. Stop looking for something that wasn’t there.

[@mikezog1030]

@@ducksmad There was no slip. Only a half hearted reach out to Mbonambi's neck on the way to his knee. Also very coincidental that it was on Mbonambi - literally the only player that the Boks couldn't swap one for one, which caused us to lose our lineouts all game. Also didn't waste any time getting straight to business. Frizell will get booed in south Africa from now on as that is not sportsmanship. His crappy actions made his team mates uncomfortable and not proud to be part of that team and effectively lost the ABs the game.

[@Againstdhawa]

nah mate that was a deliberate tactic i reckon the way he fell and just stayed with all his weight at that angle on the legs is suspect lol@@ducksmad

[@ducksmad]

@@Againstdhawa then he must have eyes in the back of his head

[@willimwelsyn5353]

Lekker man!

[@nikyt36]

Englishman here happy for the Boks. Didn’t like how we lost to them. At least the ABs missed a couple off the boot so they lost by their own hand… or boot. Their performance against Ireland was the highlight of the comp for me ❤ Go ABs!❤

[@ariakayleighjordan9847]

I actually enjoyed that game better than our boys against France 😅

[@hopeaguero7460]

The day everyone realised that the passing of my legend Jonah Lamu AB has not fully recovered from that lost he took the team with him when he exit and I pray every time when AL are playing for him to uplift they spirits.

[@xaviermurray7698]

NZL really took that loss as good as you can. Yes few pundits and supporters blamed yhe ref but so happy that they see now its not the ref that cost them the cup it was their bad decisions

[@wot4922]

They've laid an official complaint to WR about officiating at the WC🇿🇦

[@ducksmad]

@@wot4922they didn’t lay an official complaint, where did you get that rubbish? They’ve asked for clarification about some of the calls, nothing close to being a complaint.

[@renewablefuelsanalyst8263]

@@ducksmad but that means that they are not satisfied with the refereeing decisions, right? If they seek answers, that means that they saw the calls differently, so it is a complaint. Nothing wrong with it, if you feel you have been cheated, then voice your opinion, but NZ did not take the loss on the chin. They might have said that in the media right after the game, but if they believed it, why would they then want clarity if they "took the loss as good" as they could? Its like saying that you and your ex wife parted ways peacefully but they you sue her for the house afterwards. Yeah your words don't match your actions.

[@danielt3497]

If you look at all the stats, accept the score board, we had it over SA. However, regardless of the calls, we had opportunities to win, and didn't take them. Dan Carter's drop goal in the 2015 final took the pressure off before Beaudy scored. We had opportunities to kick drop goals too and didn't take them. It'll be a tough game to watch back with hindsight.

[@wot4922]

With most of the possession, the ABs should have won.

[@peterlbaldwin511]

@@wot4922 Yes and the "TITANIC" would NOT have Sunk, if it was Not for the small matter of an Iceberg.. On the night, at the Crucial moments, the Resolute "SPRINGBOKS" came through, where "The ALL BLACKS" failed to do so...Get Over It..!!

[@petes9524]

Except in the last 14 minutes where the Boks had 72% territorial possession vs 62% NZ for the match. The Boks beat you fair and square, twice within a few weeks.

[@UglyKidJoe71]

Drop goals are notoriously fortuitous, but there were points there for the taking through penalties alright. From a Saffa point of view, I was really surprised at those calls.

[@IwasInThe60s]

I absolutely feel for my Kiwi brothers and sisters. The ABs were nothing less than heroic in reaching the final. Ultimately only one team could win, and a final is usually decided by which team takes all of its opportunities at poles and then convert them.

[@IwasInThe60s]

If it is any consolation, I like Steinlager better than Castle.😂

[@lydiapotgieter7867]

South Africans played in the rain too. It does not rain a lot in SA. We also had covid as had the whole world.

[@jeffreykgatitsoe627]

I'm over all these AB's, Irish, Frenchies and Aussies. These nations will FOREVER BE BITTER & ENTITLED to think only they deserve to be the best. So I say Screw all you nations. Forever Springboks, Forever South Africa 🇿🇦. The AB's had the easiest path in the World Cup, so please.

[@ducksmad]

You clearly didn’t watch the video

[@Red-In-The-Head-LFC]

Dear Jeff Wilson. The Sprinboks did go up a couple of levels during this RWC. Back2Back champions baby

[@mjribes]

It's so funny to see these guys try to explain and justify. In the run-up to the game, they were saying that the rain didn't matter because it rains a lot in NZ. Now the rain benefitted SA. In the run-up to the final, ABs were favourites. Now, the ABs did well to get to the final. Covid definitely hit the Boks harder. They were dumped out of Super Rugby, lost a whole season and lost all of their momentum out of the 2019 RWC. But they still kicked on and won a Lions Tour with only 1 test to prepare. Guys, the ABs lost. They didn't take their chances and were out-muscled and out-thought. Four more years...

[@travismcgarry]

Issue with NZ rugby is the game HS become a game of inches and a professionalism being pushed by European teams never before seen on rugby. Springboks being part of European tournaments means they have evolved, no longer just brute players…