Starmer is MORE EXTREME than Corbyn. The Right Don't Understand the Battle They Are Losing

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[@kennyevans6197]

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[@stedavies32]

He's not wrong about Starmer being more extreme especially in light of the information withheld from the public regarding Southport.

[@jbwentworthe6082]

There was a well dressed, articulate fellow, on an Internet News channel, who told the listeners that the " Christian boy who attacked those young girls during dance class, is a native born Brit and certainly no racist. That is what he said . 😮

[@Joanna7428]

This is a national disgrace.

[@DJRockford83]

He NEVER offers a solution though, he just sits back and criticises like a petulant teenager, it's boring doomer rubbish

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

He represented the al-Q**da terr*st Khalid al-Fawwaz, who was fighting his extradition from UK. He even defended an Islumic hate preacher Abu Qatada on his deportation. He applied to European Court of Human Rights to overturn Germany's prohibition of an islumic extremist Hizb ut-Tahrir. The biggest donor of Labour during election campaign was Lord Waheed Alli. So what else can we expect ?

[@andrewcheadle948]

​@@DJRockford83that's probably because as he's said clearly, he's given up! Other than taking down the current system, that's been infiltrated and taken over at every level, then what solution do you propose....

[@Joanna7428]

Look i didn't know much about Kier prior to him getting in as PM. But what i saw previously was a man as dynamic as wet cardboard, a man who couldn't say what a woman was, a man who was involved in Jimmy Saville not being prosecuted. A man who took the knee in blm times. Nothing about him inspired any confidence. I was not wrong.

[@fionagregory9147]

@@Joanna7428 yes but Savile only had one L in it. Most people make that mistake.

[@fionagregory9147]

@@Joanna7428 Didn't Savile die before anything could be done?

[@puddyvalentine]

not forgetting Julian Assange...Starmer was happy to bang him up in Belmarsh as head of CPS. Assange spoke out loud what the US and UK didn't want publicised. now Tommy Robinson in the same place for the same 'crime',

[@Alba-y4m]

Go back and do your research on Kier stamer .watch all his videos. He's a Lawyer.

[@Alba-y4m]

​@@fionagregory9147you know the answer.

[@annaforrest6148]

Being sent to prison for three years for writing a tweet - if that's not tyranny Peter, then what is it?????🤔

[@Dosser810]

Hitchens has lost the plot.

[@Dosser810]

Hitchens has lost the plot.

[@Alba-y4m]

Well we know Peter is a communist and an a Athinist. Tony Blair wants to be the president of Europe .

[@Alba-y4m]

​@Dosser810 well he's an atheist and a communist. the Blair project to be president of Europe .we know their plan .

[@notsure855]

Starmer didn’t sentence him brother, the courts did. I agree, 3 years heavily excessive.

[@EreJkuyyuf8i0o-iiu7y7]

Ask Peter Lynch and Tommy Robinson about tyranny.

[@FFS704]

Well said

[@tamashumi7961]

Not every tyranny starts as a tyranny. For example, Hitler got voted in too. Just saying...

[@NPC-bs3pm]

I don't think Peter Hitchens gave much attention to the tyranny during the Tory_party.

[@alistair6914]

I agree he is being dumb with that .

[@frankkelly207]

Peter Hitchens has basically criticised all Reform UK voters as voting stupidly while failing to consider had the Tories been truly conservative they would have remained in power. His stupidity in believing they governed for the benefit of UK and the wishes of the majority of the population leaves me to believe he is stupid.

[@FFS704]

Starmer's government may not be a Tyranny, but that doesn't mean that it is not behaving tyrannically

[@jbuk4369]

What's the difference?

[@fillyfresh]

@@jbuk4369 PH gives a long winded explanation of why it not a Tyranny. i.e. It was voted in. That does not stop it behaving Tyrannically. 1. An extremely oppressive, unjust, or cruel ruler. 2. An absolute ruler who governs without restrictions, especially one who seized power illegally. 3. An oppressive, harsh, arbitrary person: My boss is a tyrant. They hit two out of 3 IMO.

[@VerneRock]

​@@fillyfresh Less than 20% voted Labour

[@fillyfresh]

@@VerneRock Oh yeah, it's Peters cope speech. He does it all the time. He knows the exact definitions of words but disregards the sentiment in which they are used. It's fairly autistic.

[@DJRockford83]

A soft tyranny is still a tyranny, it's only because it's not affecting him that he doesn't see it. He's a teenager that's never grown up, no solutions just criticism of everything

[@Mike-br8zt]

I had low expectations of Comrade Starmer - he has met my expectations.

[@citizenjlk]

So disappointing to hear Hitchens' tired apathy on the subject of immigration. He has the brains to acknowledge the dire situation but not the blood or balls to do anything about it. He may condemn the Tories but he is reflecting the true soul of the party with this weak, hopeless response.

[@montaguewithnail6372]

His religious zealotry won't allow him to do anything about it.

[@DJRockford83]

He NEVER has solutions EVER it's his whole schtick, stop listening to him

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@montaguewithnail6372 Nothing zealous about absolute truths.

[@kennyevans6197]

it's ironic he was one of the vile neo marxists in the 60s that started us down this road to ruin and now he has the cheek to grift selling us his wisdom on how it all went wrong...oh the hypocrisy

[@aesthete8033]

@@DJRockford83 He thinks he can talk his way to solutions. At some point, you have to stop over-intellectualising and act.

[@charlybeagrie1119]

People voted Reform because that party spoke to their concerns.

[@peterrowe-prvvideo1853]

and the tories certainly didn't. for this political buffoon to suggests it was stupid to vote reform, just shows how out of touch he is - just another element of the elite that thinks only they know best.

[@TrevorLee-x2f]

Tice single handedly destroyed Reform while being interviewed on TV recently, us LOT should forget about them.

[@Thomas-wz2nu]

Hitchens himself previously advocated “zero votes” for the ConSocialists

[@mikehutton3937]

You mean Reform LLC. All very well, until Farage loses interest and another party implodes like the other ones he's set up.

[@juliamacdonald294]

No. Voting for the Conservatives let Labour in. Peter, how on earth do you expect 1000s of young men whose culture is entirely different to ours, many of them uneducated and dont speak our language, how ON EARTH do you expect them to integrate. Its all very well having thinkers like you but the rest of us have to live our lives in the real world alongside these people who may hate us. I agree with you on one thing, that is Eternity.

[@jeffsimon9594]

Exactly, stubborn Tories who just could not bring themselves to vote in a slightly different way for once.

[@fillyfresh]

Yeah, he is dancing on the grave of that vote. He spent the entirety of the Tories last term telling young people to leave the country. He thinks people voted stupidly. So, vote Tories back in after all that he said. OK.

[@DJRockford83]

Because Peter is a teenager who can only criticise and has never grown up into an adult that can offer a solution. Same old doomer crap

[@Geeronimo99]

He.s not thinking outside the box today maybe. The masses arent to get what they deserve.. theyre supposed to find beneficial government that has their best interests at heart. Not be held accountable...to tryrants. Starmer is a tyrant. Of the most despicable order.

[@Hellish2050]

The Koran forbids them to integrate. "do not take Christians and Jws for your friends..."

[@DavidEdwards-e6m]

Being born white British i no longer have any future plans, targets or aspirations. I am not represented anywhere in what i once saw as my country. I am now in the wilderness.

[@Jen-mf9rm]

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Military saying. There is much you can and should be striving for.

[@russellthechemist8291]

You must snap out of that mood and outlook. Fight back by being the best you can at everything. Never surrender.

[@MalachiCove]

Surely Starners near immediate removal of the protection for free speech the universities and all that has followed, is alarming. Ordinary people, those Mr Hitchens may never meet, who have become increasingly fearful of expressing their views. Are this not dangerous steps on the path to tyranny.

[@fionagregory9147]

@@MalachiCove I think so.

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@fionagregory9147 We are becoming a British version of the old East Germany and Starmer is Erich Honecker. He would have got on very well there.

[@Patrick-vh5nr]

Christianity does not involve excepting mass migration. Also believing that integration is even possible let alone desirable is ridiculous. I am Christian i except none of this!

[@MaisyK]

agree, it's accept not except

[@Camille_Anderson]

We cannot sustain legal or illegal anymore. We are sinking with them.

[@tiggerthecat1]

He said expect!

[@Ichioku]

If you can't say what you mean, how can you mean what you say?

[@Hellish2050]

Does Christianity involve kissing the Koran, or praying facing Mecca? As various popes have done.

[@Cycle.every.day.]

Corbyn told us what he was in big bold writing on the front of his t-shirt , Starmers is on the back in tiny writing.

[@bartacus4872]

Like the tour dates on a Taylor Swift t-shirt perhaps?

[@kevinadamson5768]

At least you knew Corbyn was a terrorist supporting snake with Starmer it's less obvious, you have to scratch the surface to find out what's under the skin and it's not very pretty. 😮

[@neil1997]

"May contain nuts"

[@montaguewithnail6372]

@@neil1997 No sausages?

[@sandrawells7665]

No wonder he dident stop to talk to people when he deemed to show his face in southport . Knowing what he knew .

[@kevinadamson5768]

But why protect these animals? 😢

[@VerneRock]

​@@kevinadamson5768Psychopathy

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

@@kevinadamson5768 He represented the al-Q**da terr*st Khalid al-Fawwaz, who was fighting his extradition from UK. He even defended an Islumic hate preacher Abu Qatada on his deportation. He applied to European Court of Human Rights to overturn Germany's prohibition of an islumic extremist Hizb ut-Tahrir. The biggest donor of Labour during election campaign was Lord Waheed Alli. So what else can we expect ?

[@Geeronimo99]

He will need them. To fight when we finally wake up and smell the coffee...and realize we can not survive if we allow the charade to go on. Theyre ruining us...not governing us. We need the tories back in with the ukip leader as pm. The navy should escort the dinghies back to calais at the very least.

[@oliverreno4734]

Peter is wrong about colour being 'skin deep', and all of this 'one race - human race' nonsense. This is his pious, universalist Christian rubbish rearing its ugly head, and it's that kind of thinking that has demonstrably changed Britain for the worse. As a former working class oik, who has had to live cheek by jowl with the problem of multiculturalism for most of my life; I can assuredly say (and the scientific literature agrees with me, here) there are IMMENSE differences in innate characteristics between race. Intelligence, orderliness, conscientiousness, empathy, aggressiveness and violence all correlate with racial differences, everywhere on Earth we have data with regards to crime statistics, IQ tests etc. This has been well known for decades, thanks to the work of pioneering sociologists like Charles Murray, Steven Pinker, Ed Dutton etc... And for people that think these problems are all 'cultural'. Culture is downstream from behaviour, and that is downstream from genetics. If in the future, you think this country will be in any way 'British' or as well off as we are (were) now, think again.

[@camstratford3633]

Make Britain British again!!

[@utinirhino7658]

I Agree. How nice that Peter H doesn't see colour but chooses to quote MLK " Judge a person by the content of their character...." What about the minority white population in South Africa that is being systematically targeted and wiped out; they must all be of poor character then - even 30 years after the regime change orchestrated by the west. How come Japan doesn't have the same problems that the UK has, any ideas?

[@bryangallagher4690]

Well said!

[@HimoftheBoat1967]

I like listening to Peter, but I agree with Oliver totally. 'Pious Universalist Christian Rubbish' sums it up beautifully. Peter has been floating around, detatched from reality for a loooong time. The ILLEGAL immigrants will NEVER integrate into our country as their so called Religion will never allow it.

[@HimoftheBoat1967]

Why has my post disappeared ?😡

[@fmj9346]

People were warned about Starmer. Few listened.

[@FirstLast-rb5zj]

I don't immediately get the misconception here. Who is it that thinks Corbyn is much more extreme than Starmer? I don't know a huge amount about Corbyn but from what I understand while being something of a holier than thou type he has a liberal streak. He is slightly more affiliated with the casual, experimental and whacky side of left wing politics especially with his brother. Different culture. He is a little unpredictable in some senses. Starmer is a straight up authoritarian extremist through and through. He's as formal and commanding as it gets. I would imagine that you might have a small chance of being able to reason with someone like Corbyn. At least chance of being heard out. This is not so for someone like Starmer.

[@real_philosophy_audiobooks]

I 99% agree with what you have said but Starmer only has the *appearance* of being commanding. In reality, he is a narcissist (which makes him manipulable because he chases the trappings of power) and thus also a WEF toady. Corbyn, misguided and wacky as he is, is at least his own person with his own values, rather than a cardboard cutout of a politician, like Starmer.

[@andyquelch5754]

Starmer is a sociopath. Corbyn is a bumbling buffoon.

[@greatscott369]

Peters hair would be stood on end if corbyn was PM

[@brianfitzell1664]

Spot on. Starmer shows many dangerous traits. I think under pressure of an international crisis he’s the type of leader who could resort to using nuclear weapons. I also believe he will, if he lasts as PM, permit the police to be generally armed as a condition of their employment. Wait for it!

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Corbyn was a dusty old Marxist. Starmer is a fully committed WEF globalist.

[@charlybeagrie1119]

You cannot integrate those who do not wish to do so.

[@lizm4580]

The system cannot be trusted!!! We need to start emailing our MPs over & over again about the safety of Tommy!!!!!

[@brandonatchison4769]

Is this a joke?

[@NealMurfitt]

Are you talking about the zionist Tommy Robinson? Both he and this channel fail to appreciate the folly of this position.

[@kevinadamson5768]

So you think he should be in jail for what was a civil matter while the animals who attacked the Manchester police walk free, I get it your a far left idiot who supports everyone but his own people, an anti patriot. 😢Shame on you. ​@@NealMurfitt

[@VerneRock]

I support Tommy, but not Putin, but what has Tommy actually achieved since 2015?

[@kevinadamson5768]

@VerneRock woken people up to the fact we are being invaded by Muslims, that's not being racist it is the truth, 700 thousand last year total madness importing our enemies.

[@johngammon963]

Both parties are working together, both parties performing Hegelian sorcery on the British mind.

[@kylethedalek]

They always have…

[@NPC-bs3pm]

Yeah and what is King Charles doing? what did the Late Queen do? THEY are to blame in part. I am a Monarchist and yet I hate them both. What you need is a society to realize that the Monarch is there to LIMIT Government. The Parliament is there to INCREASE Government with the number 1 tool: Taxes.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Always have

[@Gilambesh]

Hitchens lobbied for decades to rid the UK of the Tories and then cries when it happens. Sure, Labour are awful and Reform are not what we hoped. What other choice was there. More Rishi, no thanks. In other words, no solutions.

[@DJRockford83]

Same old Peter, plenty of petulant teenage criticism but never any grown up solutions. It's a bit pathetic really

[@jagchahal1393]

Why is tommy locked up in a top high security prison , for his guilty of failing to obey a court order. Why is tommy not serving in a open air prison. Can some provide a insight.

[@tiggerthecat1]

I think you know the answer!

[@battybibliophile-Clare]

Spite

[@ianbardon8581]

The court order was incorrect

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Imagine still defending Liberal Democracy in 2024.

[@astralcowboy5511]

As oppose to what, exactly?

[@fionagregory9147]

@@astralcowboy5511 as opposed*

[@JohnSmith-e7j]

The performance of liberal politics has changed. I don't recognize it anymore

[@evolassunglasses4673]

No solutions Peter.

[@NPC-bs3pm]

Yeah i can't stand the guy for that reason. he is a LEFTWING person from origin supporting Trotsky ideology in his Youth. I remember him thinking Right-wing people have no good speakers/ideas. He does NOT realize that the power of the executive is within the 👑Monarch and not the Prime Minister (so i.e. foreign affairs are 100% Queen Elizabeth and subsequently King Charles's fault).

[@jbuk4369]

I agree. Does he not see what's coming over the horizon?

[@MarmiteMangoMachine]

Perhaps because there really are no solutions.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

His ego gets in the way of solutions.

[@njd2342]

@@jbuk4369 See over the horizon? Nearly, as Calais is just over 20 miles away.

[@kmansfield7733]

The vast majority of people take little interest in politics. They see the headlines in the paper and occasionally they may watch/listen to the news. The opinions voters form are mainly influenced by the press which spins the news to suit their own agenda.

[@22448824]

Although I agree with you it’s fair to say that yours and mine opinions are formed by KZbin videos. Ones we agree with to start with.

[@rensha8635]

So true. It’s the ignorance of the citizens which gave power to the bonkers Labour Party.

[@rensha8635]

So true. It’s the ignorance of the citizens which gave power to the bonkers Labour Party.

[@fionagregory9147]

@@rensha8635 or it could be our electoral system. First past the post is not the best way probably.

[@fionagregory9147]

@@rensha8635 only about 20 per cent voted Labour. The voting system must be to blame.

[@jerribee1]

I think it's possible to echo Martin Luther King's wish that we should not judge someone by the colour of their skin, and yet still not want the white race to become a minority in their own country.

[@kevincarbb2819]

No you are not correct....We do not want people who believe in British values customs and democracy to be a minority...... Nor do we want British people who accept and are tolerant of other religions to be a minority...If we believe these things it matters not if blacks or whites or any race is a minority.

[@macfaichen2658]

Love listening to Peter I watch him twice and take notes… always learn something. Don’t always agree with everything (why I watch twice) he says but it’s good to hear opposing views points… another great interview thanks New Culture Forum and Mr Whittle..👍🏻

[@Viktors633]

Peter has lost the plot...shame, but the Tories needed to lose. Going to prison for a tweet sounds like a tyranny to me. Whats his remedy, leave the country or vote for more of the same.

[@rhirhi4172]

Leaving is the answer for me

[@DJRockford83]

As ever Peter has no solutions. People need to stop listening to him

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@DJRockford83 There is no 'solution' without an effective opposition, which we don't have as Peter says. The social and cultural revolution has been going on all my life (since 1964) and is so entrenched as to be almost impossible to reverse, certainly in the short term without some cataclysmic reversal, which I can't see coming - people are too complacent and frightened. Get used to living in the British East Germany, be careful what you say and get whatever comfort you can from your hobbies and outside interests.

[@maureenbarclay2127]

Only 9 million people voted for this chaos

[@montaguewithnail6372]

How many people voted for the Tory chaos?

[@Aishasamuels9950]

@@montaguewithnail6372 At least we know what morons voted for this weasel of a PM

[@montaguewithnail6372]

@@Aishasamuels9950 And we don't know who voted for the incompetent PM's that we've had to endure for the past 14 years?

[@MartinParsons-tr6wi]

​@@montaguewithnail6372 It took the Brexit vote to work out that they were post Blairite placemen. Covid was the final nail in the coffin

[@beestonbump1106]

Peter Hitchens is a first-rate analyst, but when asked for solutions, I find he usually says something like, 'oh it's too difficult' or 'it's too late, the barbarians are inside the gate'. He needs to go outside his comfort zone.

[@sdavis7096]

I mean he’s probably right though isn’t he. Would take generations to undo the mess we are in no?

[@fillyfresh]

Mass deportations would not be on the table politically in Tory rhetoric if Reform were not in parliament. That is not a wasted vote, nor is it 'STUPID'. Thanks for that Peter. Just pointing it out.

[@DJRockford83]

He's just an overgrown teenager always criticising never coming up with solutions

[@fillyfresh]

@@DJRockford83 Aye, well, when it continues into adulthood, then it's clinical. Someone called him an intellectual narcissist. I think that is accurate. NPD. Peter is sucking up hard here and he loves it.

[@LouiseDay-bd4qi]

Yet Nigel thinks deportation is impossible

[@MartinParsons-tr6wi]

​@@LouiseDay-bd4qi You've cherry picked what he said. He recognises the need to address the issue

[@LouiseDay-bd4qi]

@MartinParsons-tr6wi my ears definitely heard mass deportations would be impossible

[@Bpt8825]

This Labour government feels like the prequel to the film V for Vendetta

[@tiggerthecat1]

Startling actually how if you watch that movie and the protagonist’s origin story how closely it resembles what is happening now.

[@myzenlifeinnature]

​@@tiggerthecat1will see if I can find it and have a look

[@Templar7832]

I’ve been saying this for months. No one knows how nuts this guy is. He’s the most dangerous man in Britain. And everyone compared to him is “right” whereas in real life we’re all centrists

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

He represented the al-Q**da terr*st Khalid al-Fawwaz, who was fighting his extradition from UK. He even defended an Islumic hate preacher Abu Qatada on his deportation. He applied to European Court of Human Rights to overturn Germany's prohibition of an islumic extremist Hizb ut-Tahrir. The biggest donor of Labour during election campaign was Lord Waheed Alli. So what else can we expect ?

[@Aishasamuels9950]

Christopher was a exceptional thinker and addressed the immigration problem and all it’s issues a very wise man well before his time RIP CH

[@myzenlifeinnature]

Yes, the good world is sorely deprived through the loss of such a giant among men. Only Douglas Murray comes close. I believe the West would not have fallen into the extremes of woke had he still been with us. Europe would not have found out the hard way on the severe consequences and major flaws of unvetted, mass immigration. And many more policy pitfalls, he would have warned of, and made headway with

[@annscanlan8136]

Peter Hitchens is one of our national treasures, and refreshingly, without an inflated ego. Today that's a rarity! I love listening and learning from him.

[@kylethedalek]

Yeah he pushed the arm meds.

[@sheilaoneil18]

Me too!😊

[@johnhiscott-walsh5198]

👍

[@jbuk4369]

Yet here he is denying that we are indeed headed towards a tyranny. He values his status as a self-appointed sage more than what is happening on the ground and the perils we face from our own debased institutions. He DOES have an inflated ego, with little or no ability to admit he may be wrong. He is no national treasure in my eyes.

[@fillyfresh]

He has got one of the biggest egos on the political commentary scene. He thinks people voted 'stupidly'.

[@bryangallagher4690]

I have enormous respect for Peter Hitchens, but when he says that Starmer's government is not a tyranny because they are there as a result of votes for them, I think he may be begging the question that this system is certain to be maintained. It wotld not surprise me in the least if Starmer (assuming, perish the thought, that he manages to stay for the full parliamentary term) were to use some invented mechanism (with support from an in-the-pocket force) to dismantle our supposed democracy. Stranger things have happened.

[@stepchicken3238]

Anyone who doesn't think and say like Hitchens is "stupid."

[@StevePerry-r5w]

Well put. It can’t be a tyranny because tyrants can’t be elected is essentially circular argument.

[@DJRockford83]

I lost all respect for him when he constantly advocated for destroying the Tories and then once we did it he then complained that Labour got in. Absolutely ridiculous. He's never grown up from being an intelligent teenager who's able to poke holes in everything but provide absolutely no solutions

[@fionagregory9147]

I like Hitchens. His dad was a naval commander like mine.

[@MrVictor1954]

So a couple of morons saves the day….boohoo

[@tobetrayafriend]

His father was on the ship that sunk the Scharnhost and he took part in the Arctic convoys that kept the arms lifeline to Russia when it was bogged down against the Germans. Men of a different breed indeed.

[@confederatenationalist7283]

​@@tobetrayafriend Russia wasn't an ally in WW2 it was just a useful Communist enemy tool after Germany turned on it.

[@elizabethfermor344]

His grandad, (who was very much like him), was my grandmother's brother!

[@allykatharvey]

I didn’t know that! My husband is a Naval Commander. He agrees with most of this. We feel like a different culture from the mass media.

[@davidf2881]

Who's worst. Phoney Tony or 2 Tier Kier?

[@fionagregory9147]

Keir is worse.

[@ABM750]

Both the same slimy weasels

[@UtubeRwokeLefties]

Phoney Tony has Free Gear as a glove puppet.

[@MrVictor1954]

Both,but Tony was likeable and his wife had a brain.

[@ianhawdon3680]

​@@UtubeRwokeLefties100%

[@andymyers2759]

Still complaining about people wanting a third way Peter, it's not invalid to reject the two faces of the uniparty even if it leads to short term pain.

[@Nora.........]

Agreed. His definition of "long-term" is skewed. I will not consider voting for any of the main parties, and hopefully, many of us 'stupid' voters will do the same. X

[@magrathean0]

Expands for years on the notion that the Conservative party is dead and no longer represents an option that does any good, but then bitterly complains that people fail to vote for it. 'All hope is entirely lost but whatever you do, don't do this.' Somebody needs to press him hard on that contradiction

[@paulpenfold2352]

I think he's right. The only way we're going to get out of this mass immigration mess is if the left abandon identity politics and reinstate coherent, patriotic, class based politics within the nation-state. They have to get off this idea that you can use the printing of money by central banks to bank-roll a mixed economy while throwing it open to the whole world. It's unsustainable. The left need to understand this and soon.

[@DJRockford83]

​@@magrathean0that's because he's a teenager that never grew up, always criticising, never coming up with solutions

[@chrisprior1225]

Spot on with your comment. This pain we are going through is part and parcel of demanding that change by rejection of firstly the Conservatives and secondly the Labour Blairite Party.

[@glennhopkins2643]

When will Starmer step down ? Soon I hope.

[@UtubeRwokeLefties]

Hate Corbyn, but he was an intellectual giant compared to Starmer.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

And anti war.

[@richardlewis7498]

Nah corbyn is no intellect starmer is way ahead of him

[@allykatharvey]

And openly campaigns for Hezbollah. Starmer’s hides his real objectives.

[@njd2342]

Is Corbyn dead or just resting?

[@Khayyam-vg9fw]

@@richardlewis7498 Starmer is a dullard. He was clearly spotted early on as malleable, and his path was therefore smoothed. Otherwise, how could someone as slow-witted and inarticulate become a barrister let alone DPP?

[@davidgray5764]

People didn’t vote stupidly. They voted for the party who represented their views. The problem with the Tories is they ceased to represent a large majority of the people’s views. If they had all voted for the Tories, then the Tories would have taken that as an endorsement of their policies and that includes the stupid NetZero!

[@tez4274]

Peter Hitchens intellect is on a different level to most of us. I am fascinated by his thoughts.

[@SFRZRD]

Speak for yourself, if your intellect is so terribly inferior, don’t drag the rest of us down with you.

[@jbuk4369]

Speak for yourself.

[@GaryFry-k6l]

​@@jbuk4369Your on his level? Fascinating.

[@Nora.........]

Peter said Bridget Phillipson was effective, and I agree. She is very effective at losing supporters every time she goes 'on the rounds'.

[@DJRockford83]

He's a petulant teenager who's never grown up. Always criticising, never coming up with solutions. Same old doomer crap. He has nothing of value to offer

[@pringlel]

How interesting. Peter, who can talk for ten minutes on how to switch on a light bulb, dries up when asked about mass immigration. His verbosity evaporates and quickly the subject moves on. Our culture, even as he talks, is being transformed as is the future of our children and grandchildren. What is a bigger topic? And for Peter, he has next to nothing to say about it.

[@DJRockford83]

He NEVER has solutions, we shouldn't listen to him anymore

[@Ken_oh545]

Perhaps he has no children or grandchildren himself therefore it is merely a theoretical matter to him

[@sye601]

"One race - the human race".....but different breeds Peter, different breeds with different temperaments and abilities.

[@murd0ck745]

Why does nobody listen to Peter? I think he was wrong about the last election about the vote against Labour, but go forward on English conservatism, he is the genius.

[@johntoplis879]

Legal tyranny or otherwise is still tyranny.

[@AnonAtry]

Ofcourse he was always right about voting to keep Labour out but at the end of the day we accepted that Tories deserved to lose more for their constant failings. Regardless of Reform now appearing completely pointless to do what needs to be done, I'm still glad I voted for them

[@fyldeherbs]

I can't stand people who THINK they know everything, they make it hard for people like Peter who actually do!

[@gilesbaron6893]

The New Culture Forum needs Peter. We need guidance that can be filtered down to the locals.

[@trumphy911]

Our current politicians are minuscule. Minuscule in integrity, minuscule in vision, Lilliputian in stature, indolent in working to repeal Blairite cancerous policies, subservient to big business and spendrift wastrels with the public’s purse. I agree with Hitchens, it’s hard to see who we have that can have the vision and strength to save us from this madness.

[@Perseus777_]

Well written may I say.

[@1800astra]

I like that word 'minuscule' when applied to our current overlords. Well said!

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Nobody’s going to run on a policy of introducing a qualified franchise, and paying off the national debt, which is the only way out.

[@MartinParsons-tr6wi]

If it was down to me, I'd let Far age have a go. He was prepared to take on the EU monolith

[@PeterAudley-i9f]

I like listening to peter hitchens . I even wound it back at the end and listened again 😅

[@NealMurfitt]

I never realised that this interview was available on tape.

[@VerneRock]

​@@NealMurfittHe probably got a bootleg cassette of it from Camden market

[@janetshemaryahu5529]

I, too, listen to invaluable talks like these repeatedly. To undertake the most serious enterprise of reforming a country, it is necessary to raise up cadres of conservatives who have spent years educating themselves. They need to comprehensively understand precisely which things went wrong, how to repeal them, and how to correct things. But many such groups need to arise, all over the UK, and begin to work in a coordinated way for effective change. Draw up plans, with goals and a timeline. Build a country of educated and effective conservative people. Don’t talk only about all that’s wrong; talk about what needs to be done.

[@DJRockford83]

Stop wasting your time. Peter loves to criticise but never has any solutions. Any teenager can poke holes in something but never has a remedy and just like a teenager who's never grown up Peter can only criticise. Same old doomer, don't fight back, rubbish. Stop wasting your time

[@humbledandgrateful7411]

​@@DJRockford83 Peter and his admiring sycophant here are both lost causes. It's precisely the likes of vapid so-called intellectuals such as Peter that Britain and all of the West are sinking. They let all this in with their sermonising and put-downing of the great unwashed because they thought only they had the capacity to understand what is right and good. And in classic fashion, this 'thinker' has no solutions as he has literally done nothing except to write and talk all his life. It's the great failure of the West that it assigned any value to these people at all. They became a cottage industry, of course, but every one of these cottages housed a new and more promising village idiot than the last. And here we are now!

[@chrisprior1225]

Voting Reform has forced the Tories reassessment of where they have gone wrong. As to whether that reassessment brings them in line with Reform policies remains to be seen. Unfortunately, Peter Hitchens missed the point of voting for a total change that people are now crying out for.

[@Geeronimo99]

Mr sunak finally realized immigration was the most important topic...as he went out with his warning labour would devolve uk in less than 100 days. Hunt at least could read a balance sheet. I jnow a past friend who knew a man might be innocent so..pressured by other factirs agreed with all the other jurors so they could all go home. Juries cant work any more because people rarely think consistently these days.

[@stumccabe]

I disagree with Peter on one point - I don't believe sufficient integration is possible to avoid the sort of tensions that lead to sectarianism and worse. When I think of the almost trivial differences in culture and religion between the opposing sides in Northern Ireland in contrast to the wide chasms between the native Brits and some of our immigrant communities it is clear that we have an unsolvable problem. As their communities grow while ours shrinks the incompatibility becomes more evident and more dangerous.

[@DJRockford83]

It is solvable, people are just squeamish about the methods

[@gailjefferies3453]

I'm the same age as Peter but sadly don't have a fraction of his intelligence. However I'm encouraged by his confession of Christian faith. Whatever happens, we can take heart from the knowledge that Jesus will prevail.

[@thedearjohnblog]

I’ve really enjoyed listening to Peter Hitchens over recent years. His keen mind and insightful perspective never fails to be anything other than thought provoking, whether or not you agree with him. If I had my way, we’d be playing clips of Peter to school kids and encouraging them to discuss what they’ve heard. Then perhaps we’d raise a generation capable of engaging in real change.

[@myzenlifeinnature]

Big brother Christopher Hitchens - RIP - the world is sorely missing. Now he did make a difference, and had he still been here, I believe the West in many ways would not have fallen so far. He was prescient in his warnings

[@bigvern3487]

No Surrender the Good People of the UK/GB 🇬🇧👌🏼👍🏼.

[@avryllsixtus3429]

Trouble is still too many blinkered labour supporters who vote like their parents....Starmer not a man of the people, did not give out a manifesto lied about having a shovel ready government of talented people ready to act for Britain...sadly all rhetorical lies to get elected. They ignore ordinary voters as not important and have agendas the like of which are still not fully known or understood by us ordinary people. We have no global standing and our government is not respected for it's immigration policies when Europe is waking up to the issue. All Britain gets us rhetoric about smashing the traffickers..fat chance if that...he has no intention of doing that....he will bankrupt Britain in his love affair with immigrants of alien cultures and values to existing citizens..he is openly biased against British people and the culture of British people. Without sound opposition Starmer will break the backbone of Britain and yes the Starmer revolution is carried out by suited cohorts appointed to power in all government departments..this is his power base, employing left wing University educated staffers who share his Marxist views...and yes applies to teachers, lawyers and yes even the rather languid police forces who are now more biased than a Bowls ball, and I'd no use to us ordinary peasants. This man is a national treasure and should be heard by everyone and listened to very carefully.

[@rabmcleod3508]

Good evening everyone

[@HimoftheBoat1967]

Evening, Sire....

[@marcokite]

Good morning.

[@rabmcleod3508]

@ Good morning

[@tikaanipippin]

Having been on 2 juries, at the Old Bailey for a criminal trial, and Southwark Coroners court, the latter was basically just following the Coroner's guidance but the other was bizarre. Both Defence and Prosecution wanted disinterested jurors that didn't care in order to get a quick decision. They selected candidates that dressed casually, rather than smartly, and didn't sound educated or interested in the process. On a 4-day trial it was obvious that generally they weren't interested in justice or considering the evidence, but in getting home as soon as possible. I was foreman and had to work hard to get them to consider the important facts. Me - atheist at 17, even more so at 72!

[@Geeronimo99]

Yes. I agree with your analysis on juries. Waste of time. Im not an atheist. But i know this isnt god.s world. Its satan.s. In fact didnt he offer it to jesus...whose examole in turning down tge deal is rarely emulated. Especially in the corrupted justice system.

[@marionreynolds7080]

I refer to Peter Hitchen’s philosophy frequently. He’s a rare creature. The word decency comes to mind whenever he is heard. ‘The nation state is the largest unit in which people can be unselfish’ - Peter Hitchens.

[@Ken_oh545]

That quotation sounds like an Oxbridgey attempt at sounding profound - only without being either correct or carrying any meaning whatsoever.

[@Design_no]

I would say Britain is in the grips of "civilised tyranny". Hitchens is referring to old style tyranny.

[@msimms-lp5qw]

We've had it before under Thatcher, Only this time its different- because its Labour

[@Design_no]

​@@msimms-lp5qwwhat Starmer has created is nothing like what Thatcher did. She did what she did because of the economy, nothing else.

[@Ichioku]

PH has become pretty tedious these days. Basically he's saying that voters are stupid and there is no hope. He may well be right, but it's so depressing.

[@thomasmyers4089]

The Tories and Starmer are not fit to wipe Corbyns boots.

[@roygardiner2229]

One definition of tyranny in my online dictionary is "oppressive power". The situation in the UK certainly looks like tyranny to me.

[@LaPtiteAnglaise]

People always respond well to being called stupid. I don’t actually care that Peter Hitchens thinks I’m ‘stupid’. Many of his views about policing come from a place of extreme hubris mixed with ignorance. I voted for who represented my perspective best. Tories have led the country in a downward spiral. Conservatives destroyed policing in ways I can’t even begin to describe. They did it more terminally than AOC’s defund the police strategies in the USA. I doubt it will ever recover. 200 years of development of local policing finished. Labour is riddled with dangerous, ideologically radical communists and socialists. I knew they would be u fit for governing. I voted as a huge GAFY to the two major parties who have shown they have contempt for me. A 3rd party was speaking plainly and clearly.

[@arthurmiles-c9z]

I am just a 79yr old “ man in the street “, however I do care that by about 2060 the white population will be a minority . Peter is right that is not just the colour of skin that matters, but that is not the only thing that will have changed . England will no longer be England, it will have changed beyond recognition, all against the will of the indigenous population . Is this not colonial type policy. ? All societies change over time , but at a very gradual pace, and hopefully with the consent of the people.

[@dnstone1127]

New prediction is White British minority by 2040 , 2035 in England.

[@julianbones9946]

I really enjoyed listening to this interview... thank you... A most excellent insight to how we arrived here at this point...

[@laughingachilles]

My issue with his comments on the death penalty is that the majority of nations with the lowest rates of crime, do not have the death penalty. There are ways to reduce crime without the death penalty; life in prison being the obvious one. The larger issues are the breakdown of family structure and social/cultural cohesion. The way to solve those issues is a moratorium on immigration, with the exception of highly skilled workers, benefits being given to married couples, and the reintroduction of public corporal punishment.

[@MartinParsons-tr6wi]

Make the stocks great again ( ! - )

[@johnclapperton8211]

"Skin colour" is a strawman term intended to trivialise feelings which observably result in self-segregation when numbers in a neighbourhood pass the tipping point where no-one feels at home.

[@iangillman1528]

Tremendous as usual to the two Peter's . Thank you for keeping alive the spirit. Aside, to P.H. and his spiritual side I trust that he is fascinated by Biblical Archaeology which is uncovering and proving so much of The Old Testament stories.

[@winsonchurchill9879]

Labour party = amateurs, bloody embarrassment to the country

[@montaguewithnail6372]

It's not just the Labour Party. Successive governments for the past quarter of a century at least have been a "bloody embarrassment to the country".

[@carlagroves4810]

Thank you - much to think about but the general consensus is we’re done - no end in sight! 😅

[@dansweeney4530]

Something ironic about the 'right' now complaining about FPTP elections now, having opposed PR for so long. (Incidentally, right and left are now redundant categorisations)

[@calengr1]

A private members' bill (PMB) in the Parliament of the United Kingdom is a type of public bill that can be introduced by either members of the House of Commons or House of Lords who are not Ministers. Less parliamentary time is given to such bills and as a result only a minority of PMBs actually become law.

[@BinkySocks]

I actually love listening to the experience of this man. He makes me mad, glad, sad and often uncomfortable. That tells me my thinking is probably skewed in some ways. That you Peter and Peter. An enjoyable time spent with you both.

[@lawsonium]

If you live in South Wales it doesn't matter who you vote for, you always get Labour. The people voting Labour don't know why they vote Labour, so what the hell do you do. I voted Reform because there is NO other alternative to make your discontent felt. I never want to see or hear about the Conservatives ever again. I just hope Labour have cooked their own goose this time. I doubt it though. People are, as Hitchens says, too stupid.

[@kiljoy3254]

Yes, I somewhat surprised that the leftists chose Ed Milliband over his more sophisticated brother, David. That presented an amazing gift-horse opportunity to the Tories but they completely and utterly and systematically squandered it; it had to be deliberate. And now ‘David Milliband’ (the Blair project) has been reinstated. And Kemi Badenoch is calling for scrutiny of Labour… scrutinise yourselves “traitors, quislings and collaborators”

[@Cloudberry46]

It seems I was ''stupid'' to vote for REFORM - I am ''stupid'' for not wanting a Labour government and for not wanting another 5 years of useless Tories......I think I'm OK with being stupid.

[@fionagregory9147]

Please don't erase this comment. I like his brother Christopher. He was good about atheism. Keep this comment up please. Thank you.

[@mrsteve170]

I've had comments on youtube appear to dissappear before. I don't think the channel takes them down. It may reappear later... I think it is more of a tech type issue that you can't see it.

[@fionagregory9147]

@mrsteve170 thanks for that.

[@tobetrayafriend]

What do you mean "He was good about atheism"?

[@fionagregory9147]

@@tobetrayafriend watch some of his videos.

[@MartinParsons-tr6wi]

Oftentimes, a comment that's vanished is still visible in the "newest first" section

[@Rangyplunk]

I first recognised the changes happening in the police force in the 1970s when I was a special Constable.

[@abuyusef27]

It’s almost an isolated example of listening to someone who can actually think for himself.

[@jeffholt9437]

Does he, or does he just regurgitate his favourite theologians (that the great unwashed have not read up on)?

[@DawnFowle]

Starmer is just the puppet. I think Blair is running the show behind the scenes because he knows how unpopular he is. Any thought on this?

[@msimms-lp5qw]

Only its what all the Anti Starmer say without any evidence, either that or the WEF , Israel , Islam...

[@Hellish2050]

Lammy wants reparations for slavery. He would be a benefifiary of such a payout. The GDP per capita in the Carribbean is about 4 times higher than in West Africa. The descendants of slavery are in fact benefitting greatly from slavery already. Rather than demanding reparations, they should pay some sort of royalty fee.

[@alfredlear4141]

Rather asinine to criticise reform voters, when surely tory voters, that could have voted reform, are equally, if not more culpable for a labour victory.

[@terenceoakes4244]

THE BNP WAS RIGHT 'NOT FAR RIGHT NOT RACIST. DEMONISED ON PURPOSELY PURPOSE. BRING BACK NICK GRIFFIN AND THE BNP

[@jaz093]

Griffin was really bad at PR and went on about some Nazi crap which looked so bad.

[@Alba-y4m]

Why are people asking retorical questionson here .if you. Have to ask the question you no the answer ..our democracy is at stake.

[@jameswebb4593]

What really pisses me off with the likes of Hitchens , is if he is so knowing about what is wrong . WHY hasn't he done something to TRY and put it right. He is like a sports correspondent , write a good game but cannot play them. Farage and Meloni may well be pissing into the wind opposing the beaucrats in Brussels ,but they are still there fighting the cause. What cause are you fighting Mr Hitchens ?

[@exebit9366]

We are toast. My wife 45, mother in law 75 and and 52 I are considering selling up and moving to Australia. If only I were joking.

[@treaclelester7285]

For the information of Peter, I tuned in to hear what he had to say, and his breadth of knowledge is the absolute antidote to the brainwashing we all knowingly or unknowingly are subjected to. Keep going.

[@uk5g262]

Peter Hitchens aka Britain’s happiest man !

[@war_Monkey81]

I hate it when Peter says reform was a stupid vote. Tactically maybe and most people understood that, but strategically we needed something to change. The Tories have been dreadful and showed no sign of change. Admittedly I'm shocked at how much damage Labour have done in a short time span, but none of us were expecting their term to be rainbows and unicorns.

[@typicalsomeone5073]

SDP has the most sensible immigration policy in uk shame noone ever references them

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

I'm a member myself. It's time may yet come though I suspect the bubble of society will pop before then 😢

[@DJRockford83]

Because their economics are commie?

[@joanneleeson516]

I ❤ Peter Hitchens.

[@kylethedalek]

Yeah he pushed the arm meds.

[@DJRockford83]

I suppose someone has to live the overgrown teenager, always criticising and never providing a solution

[@elisabethcaulfield1944]

Shocked to learn that P. Hitching is above all a Christian advocating a mixed colour society.😅

[@ianelliott8224]

Wise words as ever from Peter, I find myself increasingly coining the expression 'Gramschian eurocommunist'. He should not be so self depreciating about his influence and legacy.

[@orsoncart802]

Hitchens on demographics and immigration: “I want my square and it must be perfectly circular.”

[@thisgirllovestoshopx]

This makes me feel so sad. My cousin studied PPE at Oxford he’s 28. He’s fit for the job. What was the point otherwise? Would love to him, David Starkey, Ben Habib, Matt Goodwin join forces. Consult & advise we need a UK X men team.

[@NealMurfitt]

No, it's not tyranny, but it's moving in that direction pretty quickly.

[@jeffholt9437]

I appreciate someone like Peter but hasn't he become cynicism without solutions? Rolling his eyes at people tying to break out of our current political straightjacket (revolutions are very rarely without pain - physical or otherwise...) and then admits to having given up voting.....COME ON PETER, DON'T JUST SHOVE BOOKS INTO POLITICIAN'S HANDS, BECOME ONE - BE YOUR OWN CHANGE!!!