Saddle Hunting Tips 102 - Multi-Stick or One Stick or Hybrid - Which Method is Best?

[@davidmartin6927]

I bought a one stick setup from Eastern outdoors because of your videos. You make it look doable. Ps this is my first year hunting in my life at 38.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

@@davidmartin6927 that is awesome! Get out there and practice a bunch and be safe. Good luck this year!

[@diegotobon7228]

Thanks for taking the time to do this great video! Explained all set up options very well! Good luck hunting and stay safe!

[@rikertvonfulton16]

Ose sticking up the tree with either the tether or your rappel rope is the safest method.

[@stevenl4494]

Rapell rope, definitely.

[@JDye-youtube]

Good video. I use a strap to carry my stick. Clip, Clip, done, zero fiddle factor. Stick rides under my arm. People say one sticking is hard. I’m 61 and I climb with everything on my back, pack, crossbow, everything. Walk up to the tree take the strap off my stick and start climbing….zero fiddle factor. When I’m done coil my rope, figure 8 my dynaglide, clip my strap onto my stick, throw it over my head and start waking out. Easy as it gets.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Very awesome! Thanks for the views and comment. Love seeing the 60+ crowd getting after it in the saddle hunting game!

[@kevinnielsen4321]

Very good at common sense video, also I have multiple gear for climbing , screw in steps, wild edge steps, climbing sticks, SRT, DRT, and the big bob one stick. I've got the same rope and one stick gear from Eastern woods a great guy and company.

[@chrisfavorin1107]

One thing you need to add to your one stick solution. Since you are using a mechanical in the Mad Rock, you should run an auto lock prusik or schwabisch knot attached to your saddle and on the lower belay side of your rappel rope. It WILL save you if the mad rock fails. (personal experience). You just need to keep your belay hand on the knot and loosen it as you use your control hand to work the mad rock.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

I do not necessarily disagree. But this video was simply showing a comparison of options. I do in fact use a prusik above my Mad Rock in a hunting situation once I get to hunting height. Everyone needs to take their own safety into their own hands and decide what level of risk that they are willing to accept. Yes, 2 or 3 or even 4 redundancies can make everything safer, but there reaches a point of diminishing returns relative to the fiddle factor.

[@chrisfavorin1107]

@@NewDayOutdoors I agree with you but I see people putting videos out to show certain aspects of climbing but dont mention redundancies in their methods and I run into other people that saddle hunt that have never heard of an auto lock or running a redundancy. I've mountain climbed and rappelled quite a bit in my younger years and my time in the Army and redundancies were preached on us and I have experienced first hand mechanical failures and the importance of redundancies. Just a suggestion moving forward thats all.

[@harveyrousejr.2069]

Your comment about squirrels and weather damaging gear. Here is the coastal plains of NC we have to worry about black bear destroying our stands and gear. I've had more stands wrecked from bear damage than most. I'm to the point now when I leave my hunting spot all my gear comes down with me.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Yep. All the reason to invest in a light mobile setup, whether that is saddle or stand. There is no need anymore to leave a dozen sets in the woods all year.

[@ultimaider6138]

Love your set up. And as I look at it I was thinking how you can attach your one stick to the top of our OS pack. If that doesn’t add too much weight to your back pack that would leave you with only your bow to carry. I typically attach my stick to it and sling our pack over the shoulder. Most hunts I don’t run a back pack but after watching this video I might be looking for one with mollies so I can attach the OSPack with my one stick to it.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

My pack is 99% camera and filming related gear. That pack weighs about 25 pounds with just my filming gear. More with your OS pack full of one stick rope stuff. Even though the one stick is light, I think I prefer to carry it simply because I have enough weight on my back the way it is. But yes with a lighter setup you could easily attach the one stick to your OS pack on there or even on the pack itself. There are a ton of tactical back packs that have mollie on them that this would work with. A camera pack that has this much mollie is much tougher to find. This LowePro one is the only one like it that I know of. Keep making great products! I got a package from you in the mail today. Thanks!!!!

[@harveyrousejr.2069]

Another great video.

[@pyang0028]

Thank you for going over multiple saddle hunting setups, I personally use 1 stick because I perfer the weight savings and reduction in overall gear. My only issue is rappeling down; forgetting to attach the pull rope or in some cases the tree is rough or has branches that causes the rappel rope to get stuck when you are attempting to pull it down. Just one of those surprises sometimes that set you back. :)

[@rogo1131]

I can agree with you on rope getting stuck sometimes. The fix i found that helps with that is running 2 pull down ropes, i use one attached next to quick-link and use another a few inches away from the quick link on rope. I found out when the rope gets stuck having 2 points of pull pressure gets it unstuck. Only down side is 2 pairs of pull down rope but its doesn't seem to take that much extra time, maybe extra 5 min when wrapping everything up.

[@pyang0028]

@@rogo1131 that's a good idea, better than climbing back up 😄. It's not a big deal just one of those things that happens at the wrong time every time 😅.

[@trxe420]

So I just literally use one of my 4 muddy pro sticks and my platform when I want to one stick and my platform because I spent $200 and I don't want it to just sit there, so mark me down for the hybrid. The thing is you don't save that much weight really using 1 stick vs. 4, maybe like 4-6lbs. What you save though is bulk and it is just quicker to get down and pack up and go. Also, with the 1 stick I can go as high as I want. With the 4 I am limited. I really don't feel safer doing one vs. the other, it's about the same to me. I would just say to people, it's not a race. Spend 10 more minutes and think about what you are doing instead of racing up a tree. If deer were right up on you to where you literally had to be in that tree ASAP you are most likely busted anyway.

[@kip.k]

Thinking of going to a very similar hybrid next season. 1 stick, an aider, plus my platform in conjunction with a rappel kit.

[@paulcrave3112]

If you forget your dynaglide and rappel down, you can one stick back up (assuming you didn’t forget to grab your stick in the way down) and this time you won’t have to advance your tether.

[@67HuntAway]

I hook my rope up at the base of the tree right off the bat and climb that way. When at height I tether in for redundancy.

[@richrappa7906]

Great instruction! Thanks. Nice big dump pouch. Which one is that?

[@NewDayOutdoors]

That dump is made by Latitude Outdoors. Thanks for the views and the support!

[@doncampbell1961]

great video ! perfect! subbed

[@JoeWILandGuy]

Incredible video! I am also in the place where I am split between one method and the other. I certainly may consider the hybrid method approach for repelling as nothing really beats that for speed and safety. My biggest pain point with my EWO ultimate one stick is the cam cleat and how noisy that thing is. I'm almost debating removing it for another attachment method. Have you experienced the same, or maybe found a way to silence your cam cleat?

[@NewDayOutdoors]

The best way to silence the cam cleat is literally to slow down and take an extra second to slowly remove the rope so that it eases out of the jaws. If you do that then the sound is not an issue.

[@Canadaman4403]

Can you provide the link for the full name for the altimater pack attached to your back pack?

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Ultimaider ... www.ultimaider.com/

[@tylerelkins9619]

So I just got my EWO Ultimate One Stick & it's the 12" stick. So my question is, I hunt A LOT of pine trees on my property in South Alabama & I tried a few practice climbs yesterday & I noticed that my stick didn't want to bite very hard into that tree.... is it possibly because i had my rope to high when wrapping my U.O.S. around the tree??? I'm really wanting to like One Sticking but, man I was working up a Sweat trying to figure everything out.....

[@NewDayOutdoors]

@tylerelkins9619 most likely. Make sure your rope is level and as tight as you can get it before you set the stick. Then when you set the stick, put a foot in your aider, pull out on the bottom step of yhe stick then pulled down hard and push down on the aider with your foot. This sets the stick the best.

[@markmurrell1894]

Do you carry a backup rappel device in case you accidentally drop your mad rock? I’m new to this and was thinking of getting a backup figure 8 or something

[@NewDayOutdoors]

There is no way for me to drop my MadRock as I am never disconnected from it. I rum it fro,mthe to,e I leave the ground until I return to the ground.

[@markmurrell1894]

@@NewDayOutdoors I understand. I was just confused when you were demonstrating the hybrid method you attached your rappel rope when you were already standing up on your sticks in the tree. You then pulled your mad rock out of your pocket to attach to the rope. I see your point of not needing a backup rappel device if you attach on the ground. But, when I saw your demonstration, I immediately thought, what happens if you accidentally drop your mad rock before attaching it. We’ve all had the drop fingers every now and then. I think it’s probably best if you do the hybrid method, attach your rappel rope and everything while on the ground and just move it up the tree as you climb. Does that sound right? Thanks for your videos!

[@natemedley9215]

So I know u said the website to get the one stick from but how to I get to the one stick. Like I don’t know what to look up

[@NewDayOutdoors]

doublesteps.com/product-category/ultimate-one-sticks/

[@aaronmeeks1155]

Everyone at work I talk to about saddle hunting thinks I'm talking about riding a damn horse 🐎 😆

[@NewDayOutdoors]

LOL ... love it.

[@osbornoutdoors8778]

So if I’m in NE Oklahoma hunting mostly junk trees that are often not straight and not very tall, which setup would you use? I currently use sticks and I’ve never used more than 3 and often only use 2, with a 1 step aider on each one.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

If the trees are real crooked and not tall, then I would continue to use multiple sticks.

[@keithlambert6217]

If I can hunt same spot 2-3 days without worrying about theft I use sticks because the second climb is so quiet and fast. For 1 day hunts One stick all the way.

[@rikertvonfulton16]

You could pull the bottom stick and take it with you. That being said, I used to do that myself and somebody came in and cut the tree down to get my $40 chain on tree stand.

[@brianscustomcanvas1911]

Canyon elite is by far more superior. I get all of my gear from eastern out doors. I SRT 70' with base hitch. The guys there are awesome, I highly recommend. And there prices are on par😁👍👍

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Yep. I love the guys up at EWO.

[@paulcrave3112]

I had trouble with the zippers on that pouch too. They need a bigger zipper on it. Nothing safer than a rappel out of the tree.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

No zipper problems for me as of yet. Love the pouch. But knowing me, if he makes an "improved" one ... I will buy it.

[@paulcrave3112]

@@NewDayOutdoors it looked in the video like you were messing with it to go around the corners. It definately is a two hand zipper.

[@stevenl4494]

For me, can't stand sticks. Looking for a better option. But that's me. SRT ..... just makes too much sense and dont need sticks for it. Gotta scout anyway.

[@cjr4497]

Staggs saying that there is less effort to one stick than multi stick is false. It is only partly true if the tree is perfectly straight, smooth barked, and has no limbs or vines. One sticking is also noisy and requires a lot of movement. It can be very uncomfortable at times. With hunting clothes on, your saddle can ride up while making moves on trees of character forcing you expend a lot of energy. Its only advantage is weight and quickness to take down. I am going to one-stick for the rest of this season. If I don't figure out any more pro's with it, I am going back to multi stick climbing but with 4 ultra light ticks. I will keep rappelling down as well.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

After now one-stick climbing for a year, I personally think one-sticking is easier, smoother, and just all around better for me, even when limbs are involved. The only exception would be in very crooked trees or in the late late seasons when clothing gets very heavy. But that is just me. The beauty is that there are options for everyone to choose how they want to hunt.

[@paulcrave3112]

What backpack are you using there?

[@NewDayOutdoors]

LowePro ProTactic BP 450 AW II

[@kidneystones3406]

The one thing I disagree with you is using a tethered rope is a alot less painful if you fall compared to the linesman rope. There are a lot of KZbin on how to climb slanted trees one sticking so it can be done. Be sides my tree saddle the second most important equipment you can use is framed backpack. It makes a huge difference especially if you are older and hunt in marshes or hills being able quatr out a deer is very important in my opinion. I have to admit was very ignorant on how important framed backpacks they are when hunting public land. Over all think it was a very good video just my opinion you should diffently looking into a a framed backpack with camera gear.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

There are no framed packs the serve my camera gear needs. Love the pack I use. No hunting company has yet to make a real camera bag to protect, organize, and carry $6k+ of camera gear up a tree.

[@kidneystones3406]

@@NewDayOutdoors I will give some quick advice about self filming on whitetail hunting. Watch DIY SPORTSMAN CHANNEL ON KZbin his name is Garrette his video quality is second to none for self filming whitetails from the tree saddle. He's been great at that for a long time