Newer Style PCS Thermal Softie, and secondary Base Layer ...bexbugoutsurvivor

A day out with the replacement for my old style Softie suit and norgie. With integral built in stuff sack. (PCS) Army trousers and smock....Bexbugoutsurvivor
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[@Bawsackable]

Hi Bex I got the new style smock and the fleece and think they are really good pieces of kit...I paid a lot more than 15 quid for them lol but most army surplus stuff is really going up in price lately.

[@vvogt4252]

The British Systems are well thought-out. Thanks Brother for Showing us these awesome warm clothing, Cheers from Swansea South Carolina! Happy Trails Brother Bex.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

The Brit kit is certainly well thought out, and our government are considering lighter kit, for 2020 onwards too... all the best mate. Bex

[@marvinnappermarvo]

Hi Bex. Thank you for your videos. I enjoy watching them a lot. Just bought the new version of the softie from an army surplus in Exeter, brand new for £50, trousers £15 and the upper layer for £35. It's definitely a good buy and very comfortable and warm, even just wearing a t-shirt underneath.

[@-rhys]

Thanks for sharing that, it's a nice system.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Sure is a nice level 5 layer, or level 3 for spring, summer nights...Bex

[@kevinpounder]

Hello bex i bought these sofies and dicided to dye them with dylon black they came out grey .I have the buffalo light wight smock and leggings and they look and feel identical .I could have saved myself 200 quid .The zip doesnt change colour but lookes great against the grey .You now have a bespoke piece of kit Kev

[@stealthandysteath1069]

Evening buddy. I don't think ya can beat the softies. Easy on easy off lol. You're new kit looks ok an i hope it works for ya. 👍 Top man. Thanks for sharing mate ATB Andy 🇬🇧

[@thomasnugent7602]

Very good ideas. I have the American Army equivalent called a " bear suit ", also made of fleece. I think I will take it with me in the cold months. Would definitely add R value to my small emergency 3 season survival sleeping bag. Thank you very much

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

The bear suit looks awesome, cheap to buy, but import tax a real mine field of extra cost for me. The softies and jungle bag great for milder to cool weather, add a poncho liner and add another 5 degrees..ATVB.Bex

[@MichaelR58]

Bex, thanks for sharing, I have the older version . I like the new pattern , the venting feature is a winner for sure , as well as the integrated stuff sacks . ATVB

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I love the old style softies, but the new sand version, I seem to be using more often. The new style smock has a fleece lining, instead of the wadding sandwiched between 2 layers....Both versions are good options...Bex

[@gastramp]

Thanks Bex. Recon I'll get me a set... they look really good. 👍

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Been too warm in a sleeping bag with these on, and I'm a cold sleeper, so definitely worth it, save money buying a winter bag, add mk2 softies to the bag, and easy to vent when too warm with the zips...Bex

[@lenordchristopher6447]

I love my softies mate ,I’ve got the old style and can’t fault them .great review mate 👍

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I'm thinking of pairing both sets for the colder nights. Mk2 great to hike in, old style great for a static camp....Bex

[@lazycarper]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor i go carp fishing in winter so im static and cold i use the old style snug pak softie and its soooo good only problem is it takes on water so i use a oversized german goretex flaktarn jacket over the top, its so good together

[@DMAC1966]

Nice bit of kit there Bex. I've got the old style apart from the trousers and the old style Norgie. I d like the new Norgie

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

The new style norgie is a lot more compact, and seems just as warm as my old norgie. I will keep my eyes open for the old style trouser section for you cheep...Bex

[@DMAC1966]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor cheers mate 😊 will look into getting the new Norgie

[@mattsmindfulmeals5981]

Hi, the new fleeces are great especially the longer back! I’ve just converted to the New Poseidon Jet up at Lossie and picked up my new softee, the Aircrew versions, slight differences, jacket full Zip trousers have slightly bigger pocket as they are more fire retardent. Being almost 50 and don’t own a PlayStation ive been out and tested the kit as I’m not someone who leaves it till last minute. The new flying boots are great too. Get in touch and I’ll get a pair down to you as don’t think they’ll hit the shops for a while yet.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I had the option of the zippered jacket version, but opted for this version. I can get you a playstation if you want one....b

[@mattsmindfulmeals5981]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor no ta on the PlayStation there’s too much woodland n mountains up here to get stuck into up here! Thought I was close to the hills growing up in Stoke, but been up here nearly 20 years and it’s mint! As I say let me know as I’ve a spare pair of the YDS goretex flying boots 9L

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I use Gore-tek pro boots, thanx anyway

[@mattsmindfulmeals5981]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor not worn pro boots for yonks! Good boots!

[@neilcastell6951]

i've sold a lot of these, both new issue PCS and the older reversible softie suits, The older ones are slightly warmer but the new ones are designed to allow a degree of activity while wearing them. (The older ones are best for static situations) Currently i have a older set, and keep meaning to buy some new trousers before the surplus market dries up. btw ... the latest issue PCS thermal have a front zip ;-)

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Totally agree, the old style with at a static camp, and the new ones great to mix the layer system, gone from using as level 3 to level 6, for a winter hike. With the old style having more room, may consider pairing both sets as a sleep system, if I can get them to vent, the zips should allow for that I think, and lighter than a 3-4 doss bag. Add gortex rain covers and you got your self a bivvyless ground system...Bex

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Im picking up the new PCS front zip thermal jackets for £15.00, what are you selling yours for out of curiosity...ATVB...Bex

[@neilcastell6951]

bex bugoutsurvivor ... i was selling new for £45 and used (good grade1) for £25. ..... back When they first came out it was £120 a set but then nobody else was selling them, now they have flooded the market.

[@neilcastell6951]

bex bugoutsurvivor ... i use the older softie suit to sleep in, usually with a poncho liner, instead of a sleeping bag ,

[@lonefoxbushcraft]

Watching this stoned is far better ☮️ 🏝️🏝️😊😊😊😊

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Yarrrrr monnn. Happy days....Bex

[@mikel6517]

Prefer the softie, there has been a lot of complaints about the poor sizing of the new pcs kit and the smock catches on clothing when you take it off.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Sizing is MK1 level 6-7, MK2 level 4-5. You can always buy over size, to correct, same as any other flawed kit sizing, hence the pricing.... My MK1 softies drown me, and I'm a broad bloke...Lol (fix is) over size the Mk2 until they fit as level 4. Try both sets together instead of a bag system, good to about Zero C, not tested both sets lower than that (yet)...B

[@terryd229]

I have both the smock and the jacket new PCS and you are not wrong about the sizing, the smock is made very strange IMO it fits in some places but to tight in others, if you size up the whole thing does not fit, the pants are the same if you are around 104/170 NATO the top is a struggle to get a good fit

[@TheGreasyCamper]

I’ve just got the new smock

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Great stuff.

[@jarooverride]

Which size is that pcs smock? What is Your dimensions? Thanks.

[@stevebrand1619]

I have the new fleece top and want to order the baselayer that compliments It my fleece is size 180/100 and it's knowhere near a tight fit thinking of ordering the baselayer In the size down for a snugger fit Is this really essential or should i just go with the same size for the baselayer,sizing dilemas hot topic with surplus if buying online.Great content by the way loving your straight to the point syle and expert advice.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

If I am understanding you correctly you are referring to the long john set in tan. I still have mine, and the pant section is a tight fit and do keep my legs warm in the colder months. However I chose to opt for a baggier long sleeve top section, fit because it it lovey and cool to walk in, yet warm when stationary, and will apply my second tan fleece over it. A third layer will be the PCS smock, was warm in one video I did like this at minus 3C I think it was. Prior to the tan set of base layers we had the micro fleece set in brown and although warm was sweaty and too uncomfortable, and recall the pant section was too low cut on the hip, so had constant builders crack, and the top section rides up. Generally the the sizing on the tan set are pretty accurate to your regular fit.... See if this video of mine sheds a better light kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKHUmaiEd5WBpqM I hope I haven't misunderstood you (my bad) and some of this helped...Happy trails bex

[@stevebrand1619]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor Thank you for that info much appreciated.

[@user-kh8cl3ds7q]

Hello. Can you link to Army trousers Bexbugoutsurvivor?

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

sure

[@albaoutdoors7462]

Good kit those softies I have an expensive lightweight down jacket for the cooler nights but I’ve found myself grabbing the softie way more often. Haven’t managed to get the trousers yet. The old style softie trousers are made quite large and the new style softie jacket is made on the small side that’s my only complaint.

[@deandunbar8856]

Hello Bex Look forward to your videos you always have some good knowledge .you got a bargin there,can you tell me are they normally expensive being new out and where is that car boot sale again LOL 👍

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I know the top smock alone is on line for about £49.00, and the trouser section are like hens teeth. But shop around, on auction sites, the MOD sell off job lots on a pallet, with on line auction...Good luck bud...Bex

[@deandunbar8856]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor I will keep my eyes peeled thanks Bex

[@scapegoat762]

Would love to pick up one of the PCS smocks, but cost for shipping to USA is more than the smock- about 70 pounds for smock and shipping. Any sources in the USA?

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

I have to to pay import every time I shop from the US, just got to bite the bullet. Keep using google to look out for US sellers.....

[@scapegoat762]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor Thanks! Do they run true to size, or are they over sized like the windproof smock?

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

They are true to size. Most squaddies (serving soldiers) get theirs a size or two larger to make a slight loose fit. I buy to the correct size, and often put it on straight over my bare skin for sleeping, or over a T shirt if hiking, and I need to remove it... Just acquired a couple of the newer style winter Norgie, (the under fleece) and far better than the one in this feature, more of a velvet than a fleece. Most squaddies still prefer the original green softie suit (the predecessor) designed to be a baggy level 7 outer layer.....bex

[@scapegoat762]

@@bexbugoutsurvivor Just got the smock in the mail. GREAT! Expensive by the time you add in postage, but great. Haven't tried it out in the cold yet- it's still in the 80s here in Texas, but I think it's gonna do well.

[@davidlindley6454]

The PCS smock is a poor copy of a proper Buffalo. The hand warmer pocket is only half lined and the arm vents don't have baffles so you feel the cold of the zips. The one I have is made by Highlander and is very poorly made. The fleece/pile/pertex concept is excellent but the PCS smock could and should be better.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Agreed. One is less than 20 quid and the other is over 90 quid, your gonna get what you pay for. This video is titled "Newer Style PCS Thermal Softie" I know there are other channels that will show you the buffalo, if you type that into the YT search box. There is a vid of my buffalo 2 part sleeping bag system tho....

[@kevinbroughton2555]

I like the new outer layers, but find the fleece too warm if you are doing anything physical like running (and I mean Running) around on the moors. Prefer the Norgi for that. Enjoying the vids - as I'm an avid carbooter myself.

[@bexbugoutsurvivor]

Softies are worn for down time or patrol. Works great as additional insulation inside a synthetic sleeping bag too...all the best...bex