Who is Marvel's Firehair? Thor's True Mother, The First "Phoenix"

This video explores the abilities, powers, and origin of the Marvel Comics character "Firehair." From this ancient mutant's parents and tribe abandoning her at the Phoenix's Burnt Place due to her rare red hair, being saved and raised by wolves until she befriended the psionic mutant mentor she named Highwalker and his group of outcast mutants called the Tribe Without Fear, the loss of her new friends to misguided human tribes leading to her becoming the first Phoenix Force avatar on Earth and nearly going down the path of the Dark Phoenix, using her natural mutant superpowers of telepathy and telekinesis in conjunction with her the newfound Cosmic Pyrokinesis and other powers to recruit a young Odin Borson into helping her gather the members of the first Prehistoric Avengers team named the Avengers of 1,000,000 BC, battling the Horde corrupted Fallen Celestial and the First Celestial Host as well as other threats like a young Thanos alongside her fellow Ancient Avengers teammates, building a deep relationship with Odin that lasted centuries after their teammates passed on, eventually using her consciousness within the White Hot Room to subtly influence the selections of the subsequent Phoenix Force hosts, to revealing to the powerful Asgardian god of thunder named Thor Odinson that she was his true birth-mother and not Gaea as he was always told; Let's take a look at this ground-breaking Marvel superhero, and the very first human Phoenix who happens to also be the mother of Thor. What a revelation! This includes a short, canon character biography and my own opinionated "Sage Rating," which I use to give ratings of comic book and science fiction characters.
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[@Gabe_Cross]

With a name like Firehair, I am surprised she is not in the Invincible universe.

[@petergibney8412]

Same Here

[@omarscarborough4274]

Odin never told Thor Gaea was his mother. Gaea revealed to Thor that she was his mother.

[@1973Ganesh]

EXACTLY

[@blackchecker2009]

but Freyja did

[@omarscarborough4274]

Freyja was not involved in the story involving the Celastials that Gaea revealed herself as the mother of Thor.

[@marlom7882]

His true mother? Ok this just seems like a needless plot twist for no reason

[@Mate397]

"cLeVeR wRiTiNg"

[@user-iy7jo7bq4f]

The Marvel retcons at their finest...

[@russm4391]

Gaea being his mother makes the most sense.

[@ChauNyan]

@Wolverkitten Yeah, Thor would have had telepathy and would be a mutant. This retcon makes 0 sense.

[@russm4391]

@Wolverkitten yeah that's a good question. I feel like the writers just tried to put a surprise factor with that reveal and didn't think of how it affects Thors origin.

[@jessemillan1385]

If Thor is the son of the Phoenix Force, this will change the entire landscape of Marvel Universe.

[@Hilario-von-Fledermausburg1973]

If anyone CARED, there would be no civilization, and most likely all of humanity would be infinitely happier living in tribal communities that rotated leaders anarchically.

[@tankmortal682]

WTF! Thor started to sound like me, his "real" mother seems to keep changing.

[@JetFirePrime101]

The Phoenix being Thor mother makes zero sense, and it brings up more questions than answers.

[@kaasik1987]

That theory has been circling for long now tho, specially as Thor has never won any 1 vs 1 fight against Phoenix but Phoenix has never killed him. And Odin had a thing with Phoenix, also it would explain how Thor can grow so much stronger that Odin ever was

[@JetFirePrime101]

@@kaasik1987 What you mean by "circling for long now" you mean since 2017, when it was hinted that Thor used to go out on a date with it? Because before that there was no mention or indication that they were ever related, and Thor lost to the Phoenix once during the Avengers vs X-Men event. The reason why it didn't kill him then is because it was in a hurry to get to Hope Summers and Thor escape form it. There were no mention or indication were Odin ever dated the Phoenix before Jason Aaron run on The Avengers, am pretty sure the explanation on why Thor is destined to be more powerful then is father is because he is half Elder God, which are beings way more powerful then Skyfather such as him Zeus and any other gods in the pantheons of earth.

[@altning3622]

If phoenix is his mother then imagine the thor true power of thor, how powerful it will be

[@ExeErdna]

This is why I seriously think the Pheonix as a whole needs to be shelved it rarely makes a story better. All it does is presents bad idea and then rolls with it even if readers are like "Why are you like this?"

[@aukiejohnson1381]

magical and skilled character

[@damianstarks3338]

I know and I love her.

[@jesseyfreethrows8512]

This video throws a serious amount of content that I must research more. Thank you.

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

This sounds just like another Jason Aarons story.

[@WeaponXSigma]

Thats because it is

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

@@WeaponXSigma I know I can smell his work 10 miles away. 🤮

[@Zaacdrums]

Why does he hate thor so much?

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

@@Zaacdrums I don't know all I know is I don't like him very much for what he did to Thor when he took his name, title, and birthright and gave it all to Jane Foster who wasn't even worthy to lift Mjolnir where Thor himself had to earn the right to hold him.

[@pavankrishna.s396]

Yep he hates Thor.

[@AzmanAdli]

Another THANK You for this video.💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@MaverickX578]

She looks more Jean grey’s ancestor

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

She practically is, or better yet Jean Grey is Firehairs reincarnation

[@omarscarborough4274]

Gaea is Thor Odinson"s true mother. Marvel will correct this mistake in time .

[@zairewilliams9564]

I agree I’m hoping they do to

[@BrooklynFirstTeam]

2021 Marvel/Disney? Not a chance in hell. They just don't care about the publishing division enough TO care.

[@rell127]

@@BrooklynFirstTeam You notice Dinsey made sure Hickman brought the X-men brand back into prominent levels again that rivil the 90's era.

[@ZckxBlckTheTwnGurdins]

Yes .... it better 🙂

[@Goldiavolo]

Fools Gaea is EVERYONES MOTHER SHE IS MOTHER FREAKING EARTH😭🤣

[@Mate397]

Ugh, this backstory and "surpise twist" was painful. Reeks of "My OC is special!"

[@comicbookfangaming9733]

what

[@Mate397]

@@comicbookfangaming9733 Let me say it in another. Firehair is a tumblr OC.

[@Kh088]

@@Mate397 say it in the way where you tell us what OC means.

[@Mate397]

@@Kh088 "original character" You didn't know that?

[@Kh088]

@@Mate397 no I did not

[@tehjboney4249]

She would work better as Earth’s true first Phoenix similar to Ghost Rider where she was viewed as a powerful telepath from Jean Grey’s bloodline.Jean Grey would learn of her origin from Phoenix while the sentient life form possessed Jean during the events of the Crystal.Jean would live in her ancestors place learning about her origin and life while FireHair was placed in the body of Jean Grey to see through her eyes.

[@sleyer3722]

Changing Thor's Origin...these retcons suck, especially this one. Thor is the son of the Goddess Jord.

[@digunder14]

no, in marvel prior it was gaia, so you already ruined your own remark's validity

[@opiumized]

@@digunder14 "Thousands of years ago, when the second generation of gods began to appear on Earth, Gaea mated with many of them (under various different identities) thus becoming the "Mother-Goddess" mentioned in several myths. Under the name "Jord" she mated with Odin, who wanted a son who would be strong on Earth (not just in Asgard) and gave birth to Thor. However, Thor was not told the true identity of his mother until Gaea revealed it to him later on."

[@digunder14]

@@opiumized well either way, technically is not as odd as some may be as the phoenix being the physical embodiment of all life past present and future, one could view gaia as an aspect of the phoenix

[@donflamingo5685]

@@digunder14 nah. Pheonix is just getting all this stuff added to it. It makes no sense the Phoenix would make thor strong on earth if its truly his mother his psyonic abilities should be off the charts. So nah. It doesn't make sense. And thor is 1500 years old. This takes place a million years ago. Plot holes are two deep and wide.

[@digunder14]

@@donflamingo5685 the phoenix is tied to life, NOT psionics, plus has no physical body of it's own, and far as i can tell given the timeline when we were told it was gaia, is likely that thor is either older do to the cycle of ragnarok or simply cuz that gaia was mainly active in the early days or the 1 million bc thing is like jurrasic park's velocoraptors, being more for sounding cool than being accurate info

[@originalzo3873]

I love your delivery regardless of my prior knowledge carry on young buck i applaud you at every instance

[@NewSage]

Much appreciated! 😎👊🏽 Have a good one!

[@forceghostburtreynolds7597]

One of your best yet

[@keniel-prime6214]

This reveal game me stomach pain.

[@mercuryman1250]

That was a pretty tight video and how well you know your comics.

[@TheJoesshit]

The queen she is lol the dag old man of sage good day to u sir glad ur well enjoy ur weekend great character but at this point i expect nothing less i suppose see them subs going up rightfully so keep up the dope content bro

[@jonathanbowens2401]

New to me. Thanks for sharing bro.

[@NewSage]

😎👊

[@AzmanAdli]

One of my favorite from,still waiting for more.💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@KamiTenchi]

Yeah I call this bullsheit. Gaia is literally the true mother of all the gods in marvel including Thor. I dunno why the writers decided to change it but its pretty obvious they don't know anything about marvel.

[@Mate397]

Yea, probably just wanted to hamfist an "original character" into Marvel.

[@Gymantis]

In 20 years time y'all gonna love the stories that incorporates these characters after they disolve these retconned plots and pretend like you enjoyed them all along smh.

[@TENINCHLUVABOY]

@@Gymantis T IS THEIR TO LIKE? A JEAN GREY RIP-OFF WITH A CLOTH?

[@frankie1925]

@@Mate397 so Thor basically asgardian and not even a real mutants.

[@kennethsatria6607]

@@Gymantis Maybe the newer generation of readers who aren't fatigued by western comic's shenanigans

[@craigt5906]

Thor’s true Mother is GAEA she even said this MULTIPLE times specifically in 1980 when she told Arishem The Celestial as he was about to crush Thor with his hand “Hold mighty one and spare this my BLOODSON” Also the Germanic/Norse worshipped her as Jord and considered her Thor’s mother way back during the Viking age..Thor is also related to many gods like being Zeus’s great uncle so Firehair is flat out LYING and it doesnt make sense.. I will NEVER recognize her as his mother Aaron is just an IDIOT

[@ohyeamoe8430]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@globenstine1335]

its called a retcon. this your first time or what?

[@blackchecker2009]

its was not Arishem its was the Leader of the Celestials and her its called to The one Above All

[@nigelbryan7312]

I can't wait for MCU to do something with this. Thanks

[@essteex4656]

Ayee im a day late 🤪 but I made it.. I'll watch it twice!

[@kingshadow8782]

Awesome

[@kingshadow8782]

Nice

[@BIGALEX_DRDOOM]

5:25 Damn thor was like : "Your not my mom." ☝🏾🤣

[@MrVariant]

Amazing how the BC character has great art. 1:55 red headed stepchild lol of course

[@shadowsaiyan]

3:13... That's so on brand for Jean😅

[@AzmanAdli]

Now i like this voice.💚💚💚💚💚

[@GothicXlightning]

Totally love that RED SONJA look on her or more like Tyris Flare Grey really adore X-men and also the Mighty THOR so this revelations holds huge potential for me just hope it will turn out to be a great one and a very significant one

[@Waywardpine]

I like the idea of Gaea being Thor’s mother, because it makes his family tree soo the more messed up 😂 Like Scarlett Witch and Vision would be Thor’s Great grand parents.

[@Waywardpine]

@@bullymaguire7341 Wanda’s son Wiccan is the demiurge the god of magic and the father of gaea

[@donflamingo5685]

@@Waywardpine wait how?!

[@cringekiller348]

Hopeful Falls They won't Be Mythologies are different In Marvel comics Wanda s son Isn't related To Gaia

[@hailerbatman10]

@@donflamingo5685 comics

[@liampatterson2946]

They might actually be

[@MacNCheeze555]

Guy: We will be called Avengers 1million bc... Other guy: What's BC? Guy: Before Chris..... Ohhh

[@MrOnetedify]

yeh genius writers LMAO

[@victornieves1794]

That’s hilarious.

[@AnomalyINC]

Melting supernovae is just as plausible as there being humans one million years ago. Was "Avengers 10.000 BC" trademarked or something?

[@user-vw3pb8ii9f]

first known homosapiens is around 200k+ bc in marvel 1mbc is possible BUT they are UGLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@jhoanamauri3163]

Can you please do kingdom come superman I literally don't know anything about him and your like the best person to do this

[@NewSage]

On the to-do list! 🤓👍

[@aditghifari5039]

Must redhair, cant resist from earth, MUST HAVE TRAGIC STORY !!

[@Madfuego]

Rating of 9 wtf I was expecting a 11 you had me at phoenix son 10/10

[@davidcarty7584]

Great video but damn What crazy twist that was thor meets his real mommy

[@pistonx3544]

Can you do STEEL from DC. I and I think many other people don't know about him. Also great vid keep it up and stay safe💜💜♥️♥️

[@NewSage]

Thanks! You take care, too. 😎👍🏼 And here's the vid on Steel. 🎬🍿... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKG9nKt-jN10sNU

[@pistonx3544]

@@NewSage thank you

[@imarivision]

Interesting

[@FranciscoHernandez-cu2zu]

I found a comic that explain origin of Thor birth. It stated that the phoenix firehair was friend to Frigga and save Thor from near death when he was born due to frost giant attack. Fire hair gave piece of phoenix power to Thor to prevent him from freezing to death. That explain why phoenix say Thor was her son sense he have pieces of it power.

[@HalfGiant_101]

Like a “Godmother”?

[@keith1689]

Wow...

[@munoken]

Bruh.! Thor Odinson is also Thor Phoenix-son???! That's wild. Imagine him controlling the Phoenix Force at some point as well as the Odin Force??! OP!

[@WeaponXSigma]

Look up Phoenix King Thor

[@1973Ganesh]

@@WeaponXSigma weak sauce. He couldn't even use the phoenix properly

[@trexadvent4726]

Can you do comic book origin of Marvel's Armor?

[@kingsupreme3146]

Really fantastic, fun, great, very interesting, very cool narration, video and content my brother New Sage as greatly appreciated and expected. Bro, pardon the pun but this character is fire or better said the story you tell about Firehair is. I mean not only do we get the mind blowing info about the Phoenix Force and what makes humans like Jean Grey get chosen but ... wow she's Thor's mom which which also makes the Phoenix his mom; can you hear the explosion !?! May the true eternal love, blessings, guidance, happiness of the true most high awesome and living GOD continue to bless you, me and all of our family in CHRIST in the name of our Lord and savior JESUS CHRIST by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. Keep shining with the brilliant light that only GOD has bestowed upon you, stay encouraged, keep inspiring all to greatness as you do and stay frosty it's getting hot out there we need your coolness cause they don't come cooler than you.

[@noway6133]

Three names are creative. Next do "Electric Hammer" or "Green Body". Maybe even "Striped shield" I you are feeling generous

[@NewSage]

😅

[@hamizanyunos1502]

@@NewSage This will be very awkward when Thor confronts to Odin about this in addition to how other Avatars of the Phoenix Force will react to this fact especially the Jean Grey.

[@Nomad_theElder]

Can you make video about how powerful odin is

[@deuntaethomas2395]

Have you done a video of harvey dent superman?

[@BigAnt913]

Could you please do the rest of the Avenger 1,000,000 team

[@coreyrobinson4312]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@trexadvent4726]

Would it be awesome if we saw Fire hair making her MCU debut in the Eternals movie since she could introduce the Phoenix force?

[@AzmanAdli]

Yes yes yes yes yez.💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@blackpotatomaster]

I think first Avengers team needs a comic run

[@kingshadow8782]

Heck Yeah

[@kingshadow8782]

Wtf i never heard of this is it a retcon?

[@lordschnitzel7961]

Who is DCs „Empy Hand“ ? No Multiverse is safe

[@dezaina9961]

She looks awesome!

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

She looks like a other Jean Grey this shows no originality whatsoever.

[@boshman78]

@@kimbelsimpson7535 And her backstory is terrible. Everything about the prehistoric Avengers doesn't make sense.

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

@@boshman78 That's how you can tell it's a Jason Aaron story because it's nonsense.

[@trexadvent4726]

Can you do comic book origin of Marvel's Mercury?

[@jammbbs1688]

Only channels that get a thumbs up before I even watch the video is new sage and dope spills

[@shelbywilliams5912]

Wonder when we are going to get the story of Agmotto from marvel legacy

[@hydrodudes5135]

Oh wow

[@quentinfogger5755]

Can you do comic book origin of DC Heatwave?

[@WeaponXSigma]

I seriously wanted to forget about this retcon.......... I dunno what Donny Cates can do to undo this idiotic retcon that Jason did regarding Thor's mother. What's even worse was that at one point Thor and Phoenix dated and Thor possibly laid the pipe down when they did.

[@GuardianGrarl]

I like her design, the fact she was unfairly treated as an outcast due to red hair, her survival skills... and that's it.

[@souljourney9535]

Did I just see a hulk like dude with the star brand mark?

[@ShadowFungus]

I’mma simp her. 👀

[@damaniqphillip2756]

Wow

[@WarmLillie]

Hmm… I wonder if Fire hair can bestow me the power of her to be her temporarily? I always wonder how I’ll look like with a bit stronger build, psychic / fire power and red hair… Who knows… Maybe I could use the Phoenix Force and tell her thanks for the piece of her in it. Maybe I should do a bit of time traveling… Or who say I didn’t do it already. XD

[@mr.lostrythm7876]

It's a comic, it's not real life...

[@zettovii1367]

Who want to bet that whenever she gets a live action adaption, she is going to be cast as anything but a redhead?

[@seby826]

why would you say that? the previous jeans from the movies were all red heads

[@zettovii1367]

@@seby826 Cause almost all gingers in the recent years has been casted with a different hair and/or skin color. From April O'Niel to Jimmy Olson, Wally West, MJ, Scott Lang, Star Fire, Ariel and now apperntly even friggin Red Sonja just to list a few.

[@ronnie3613]

@@zettovii1367 Ariel and Starfire are still redheads. And yes there are non white gingers, freckles and redhair…

[@zettovii1367]

@@ronnie3613 There might be, but point is that lately it seems like gingers are the go to target to be color swapped. Like, it's not enough to be portrayed with different clothes than in the source material, but even stuff like skin and/or hair is changed. Really makes me question what's the point of adapting a character when they have no plans in staying true to their depictions.

[@theonlychickensama8353]

That would be pretty weird considering the " Fire Hair " and Red hair connotations lol

[@CyberDash87]

Red hair in the Marvel Universe? Not if the live action movies have anything to say about it.

[@allmight7570]

I can feel phoenix force thor coming in the future

[@slibertas1996]

She is not Thor’s mommy. Gaea is. The Phoenix’s one true avatar is Jean Grey-Summers though anyone of her and Scott’s line can become an avatar of the Phoenix.

[@reecedoe9449]

Seriously a 9? She is Thor’s mother, I think that she’s 10

[@obsidianmaster6782]

She's like a retcon of Thor's previous mother to be totally honest. He getting 9 seems fitting if you see it in that context.

[@jashardwallington]

Itd make sense if jean was a reincarnation of firehair hence why shes a red head

[@bene524]

Because she's a redhead seriously

[@mandolorian162]

Sage my man 👉 more invincible villains and maybe Sweet tooth?

[@DeadPiixxel]

You do it

[@realknowledge7656]

To melt supernovas??! Crazy

[@dseanm21]

Her name so Dope.

[@infamoswordz]

This that new old fire right hair lol

[@AzmanAdli]

Hi.💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@liampatterson2946]

I like how she drop a flaming bomb then dipped

[@crewcutter2030]

"Firehair? whats your first choice scrotom face?"

[@alanstargalaxy6516]

Fire hair : beyond Outerverse , Odin : multiverse , agamotto : hiperverse ,

[@stormrevenant]

The fuck are they even doing!? Gaea is Thor's mother, which is why he has a strong connection with the earth.

[@judahmourns2995]

10!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jonathanharris1326]

Hey does anyone know if this woman is the same person from the Thor movies as in his mother cause it didn't really give a back story and he is said to be a demigod in the beginning and later rises to be a full status God and the woman from the movie did have red hair so after she relinquish the Phoenix Force she could have died and went to Asgard and later became the wife of Odin maybe

[@user-lj2cb2pj8j]

Fire hair the mother of hammer boy

[@fuckeverybodycom]

So this draws a big question does this means the ppl in grey bloodline such Jean in marvel are they kin to Thor as well I know it’s far fetched but ya know it could be true

[@pricetilghman2217]

It's an obvious way to connect the Phoenix Force to the Grey bloodline.Because lets be honest if you just looked you'd think that was Jean in loin cloth.

[@fuckeverybodycom]

@@pricetilghman2217 I did notice that she looks like jean a lot that’s why I said what I said I’ve actually read that comic that introduced the first user of the Phoenix force

[@majingunplero8472]

Does the Marvel Universe really needed such a retcon?

[@benji-mx1hd]

Firehair must come from the forgotten realm of milfheim

[@NewSage]

😅

[@theunknownone5663]

All I heard was thicc redhead, knees got weak for a bit.

[@trevorghalt1881]

R.I.P Highwalker a not creep Xavier, I think

[@shaquanphillips266]

Is this another retcon?

[@dr.curryputshersexyglasses4317]

Firehair “how original”

[@allforone3427]

I really want an Avengers 1,000,000 B.C. comic where they face off against old villains like how they teased Seline and maybe Apocalypse see the Inhumans when they first show up maybe even some Deivents our Eternals that where left on earth and since Ghost Rider is a thing Myfisto could be the main villain they could fight the dragon that gives all the Iron Fist there powers they could fight Romulus and Rem since we have The Sorcerer Supreme Doormamu could show up and team up with Myfisto to fight them they could have an arc were Ghost Rider looks for the Wendigo and have an epic final battle to end the story. It could be Great.

[@joshuablot4585]

Cosmic Pyrokinesis...make sense the Phoenix Force is the only character I know that can fly without its flames being put out by the cold vastness of outer space.

[@antoinewest6534]

I wish Avengers 1.000 00 BC was a real movie

[@MandoMTL]

sHe WaS tHe BeStEsT eVaRr

[@nevilleevergreens6522]

AARON(like key and peele say it) should not be allowed to write another sentence about Thor. Thor's only weakness is the people who write him... Looking at you AARON!