NEXT DAY TAKE-AWAYS | ENGLAND vs SOUTH AFRICA

[@michaelced1221]

Marcus Smith is real quality. What a player.

[@Daniboi971]

Much better than Faz

[@silasgrace4225]

@@Daniboi971 offensively yeh but not defensively

[@saiyandemonisher]

Smith is brilliant and will have a huge career but hes no Kolbe though. He does have the potential.

[@andrewharris1837]

Absolutely as a Quins fan but to be world class he needs a good scrum half now Danny C retired and needs to improve his touchline kicking out of hand.Pollard,Barratt all kick 30mtrs+ down the line😊

[@patricksmith5685]

Marcus is a special player. Lit up the back line.

[@DirkCoetzee1982]

4 tries against England, non of them off a scrum or mall, with 5-3 bench. I hope some of the commentary after this year related to the "boring" style of play from the Boks starts to change from the detractors of SA. And 50 players rotated within the Boks squads this year. Absolutely INSANE! Rassie is truly building 2 World Cup winning squads.

[@kwedini1181]

You can say that again... Or even 3 squads just for injury sake😊😊

[@davidhanley6135]

The reason we (the rest of the world) are so scared of the bok forwards is because they release that fightening back line, usually under the freedom of advantage. Don't listen to the folks who don't like a scrum or lineout and claim the sport is not one of collision. The rest of us know the Boks are double world champs because they have the best forwards AND the best backline. Truth is, when it comes to knock out world cup rugby it will be the "boring" rugby which wins them tight matches again.

[@jameslangridge1674]

@davidhanley6135 I made this same chirp to Tim on his previous vid re "the double world champs". Bokke are quadruple world champs. Yes, I understand back to back victors, etc, but so are the AB's. Much better to properly delineate, otherwise technically speaking, Australia are also double world champs (just not back to back). Yes, it's pedantic. Still, double, triple, quadruple, keeps the perspective proper, in my opinion.

[@davidhanley6135]

@@jameslangridge1674 your absolutely right of course James. That IS pedantic! 👑👑👑👑😂

[@DavidSmith-yi8ou]

@@davidhanley6135 mate, not every side is scared of the Bok pack.

[@nathanmagerman7031]

You're currently our biggest, most loved and objective Rugby podcast personality outside SA - keep it up and come visit soon again !! stay Blessed

[@eugenehuman1945]

South Africa even when we looked good maybe cruising at 50%. we all once they demolish all scrums and lineouts and get the defence into another gear.... That would be amazing to see. I think its loading for 2027.

[@darenwaters1469]

Well said Nathan. Full agree

[@Alltakenbla]

Correct

[@TheNostalgiaMerchant]

I agree and shout out to Two Cents Rugby as well.

[@eleanorjames1118]

"Sponsored by Guiness and vibes". 😂 Well said. So glad that you loved being there. Hope you going to share some footage of the stadium vibe.

[@jcandrews308]

One crazy stat is, despite winning 10/12 games this season so far, Rassie has still been making changes regularly to build an extended squad that can and have all played together. Wilco Louw was the 50th player used by Rassie this season which is insane.

[@shonunezekiel]

Did I read somewhere that Rassie is planning to have the two best teams on the planet - I think he could achieve it - how crazy would that be?! And how useful in a tournament to play an intense brand of physical rugby, knowing that the team can have a good rest because the 'other' team will be playing next!

[@truthfinder7064]

The game was amazing, until the ref's whistle got stuck to his lips. He really killed an awesome game!

[@jawhitby345]

@@shonunezekielplanning??, he already has if you ask me!

[@newchannelname3395]

@@jawhitby345 shouldn't the world's second best team be able to at least beat argentina?

[@thinusjansevanrensburg2090]

Tim should get the world rugby ambassador for the year award!! He is a fantastic chap to watch and follow! Thank you Tim

[@FrancoisCalitz-h3j]

My conclusion was, how good must a team be to concede 15 penalties, play with 14 men and still win by almost 10 points. The Bokke are going to be so dangerous when everything clicks and they can perform at 90% plus. I honestly thought England didn't play badly at all. Great show. Thanks Tim.🤙🇿🇦😎

[@EggchasersRugby]

Great sumation!

[@Daniboi971]

And you weren’t anywhere near your best

[@jamescody2003]

Or, England are shit

[@AnthonySteinghart]

Not just the team, how good must the coaching staff be, eh? Rassie and Co are geniuses.

[@khayasontsele8984]

Fantastic summary. A well oiled Springboks team is a frightening prospect for World Rugby.

[@mu-eedadams7133]

"...the turning circle of an oil tanker..." 😂😂😂 gosh Tim, that had me in stitches

[@Sean_Pce]

Appreciate that you always keep any sort of bias out of your opinions, Tim. Keep up the excellent content!

[@Theobserver-t4g]

Everyone’s missing the real game plan here: Rassie Erasmus isn’t playing with 23 players, he’s playing with 50! The Springboks have turned the whole squad into a rotation machine. While the rest of the world sticks to 23, Rassie’s 10 steps ahead

[@AnthonySteinghart]

@@Theobserver-t4g exactly this! The world should be very afraid of this Bok Machine.

[@mrm1884]

Rassie wants all combinations to work, regardless of who's playing. Different play styles too. That's why his splits are different too, every team needs to be defeated differently.

[@viwenombekela8801]

True... This is because Rassie has the talent to do this & punish the rest of the world with the depth in talent we have in SA. Lets be honest how many other countries have 3 International Rugby teams ready, available & able to contest against any A Team out there? 🤔

[@bigowenzy3397]

South african depth is crazy. They have 3 international level packs ready to go. 4 very good scrum halves 2 top and very different 10s. 4or five great wingers. They are weakest in midfield but still very strong there with allende, am, kreil etc.. here in ireland we have a very good 23 but are struggling to add to this especially in the front row.

[@jacquesbrits5822]

I thought about that, but we aren't playing good rugby. Will we play better if we don't rotate so much and play together more?

[@stephanvandermerwe1711]

Tim you are not allowed to stop making videos, ever!😉 You have a fan base waiting for your video’s after each game now. That’s rugby now.. watch the game and see if you have seen it the same way 😂 another spot on video. Thank you!

[@floridahunting2673]

Agree 100%

[@ElizeSwanepoel-ny2uy]

Agreed

[@gailsturgess7094]

My husband is a great follower of your channel. I have joined as well as you really make it factual and interesting. Than you. I'm from South Africa. 😊🇿🇦

[@andrewmakin8151]

from south africa or south african? 😂 ❤

[@poiik2682]

Either or, neither nor.

[@mlisto293]

She is from South Africa and probably South African 😂😂😂 go Bokke🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@louisedutoit499]

Only rugby pundit I wait to listen to pre and post match...from a loyal du Toit Bok supporter! Thanks Tim👍

[@AnnemarieWepener]

Yep! Me too!!

[@derrickduplessis740]

All respect brother unbiased opinion i love your channel keep up the good work well done we love you in SA

[@Tapiwa-h2g]

Eggchaser, great analysis. Always enjoy the way you see the games. Keep it up, brother!

[@andrewmakin8151]

you’re very good at this tim. objective analysis, personal feelings, permeable presence. passionate informed non-posturing rugby devotee. compared to some other channels, like, uhmmmm, anything to do with jeff wilson and sir kirwin, although i do like mr muliaina.

[@noreenhills2433]

Well done to both teams. Obviously happy the Bokke won, but England is a team that we always respect. Hard rugby...but thats what we expect from the English. Thanks Tim..ZA

[@bensenzo]

Who's this 'we'?😅

[@JohnMurphy-k8h]

England brought it to us. SB needs to stay. He is learning still. Joe has not had time to organize his defense system. What a game!! Tim, you are a legend 🎉😊

[@VonKalenborneKennels]

Such brilliant analysis! I laughed out lout at "pissed on my chips"! Ai Tim you are such a winner! ❤🇿🇦

[@JohnJohannesJacobs]

Henry Slade’s disallowed try was a forward pass anyway. Way more forward than Fassi’s pass.

[@MerckZ21]

Absolutely.

[@viwenombekela8801]

OMG!!! I just posted basically the same comment above! Lol... The Try was disallowed & pinned on Maro Itoge... BUT that final pass was ridiculously forward anyway! Fassi's pass was nowhere near that! 😅

[@spearaus1]

I was about to post the same comment. The 5m line was there for reference. 100% forward.

[@ContendformyFaith]

That was a far worse forward pass than the Bok try being disallowed

[@henrybullock4514]

I really don’t understand how you can see that as forward. Steward’s running as the ball leaves his hands when he’s about a metre out from the 5m line, Slade catches it on the 5m line. Bare in mind it’s about a 20m pass as well, if it was really forward out of the hands wouldn’t it travel forward a lot more than just 1-2m.

[@gregm9447]

Great analysis Tim!! For England the bench (and bench selections) is our biggest problem across the autumn. Isikwe, Cole and Dombrant have offered nothing in 3 games.

[@clayton8944]

Just the bench ?

[@garrickphilp290]

You mentioned “Big name players.” This was actually discussed in the after game discussion in the Supersport studio by, I think, Nick Mallet that SA have so many players who are producing game changing moments emphasising the fact that SA currently have a riches of World class players. Something mentioned during commentary was that, with the well deserved appearance of Wilco Louw, SA have fielded 50 Springboks during 2024. This has created a huge pool of highly competent players but is also possibly the reason why we are not currently firing on all cylinders. The constant changes do not help continuity. Another observation from the weekend so far is the lack of continuity in the modern game. Too many laws and constant interference from the TMO and assistant referees. Greetings from a sunny and relatively windless Fish Hoek in Cape Town. Keep up the good work.

[@nicholaslead6016]

Tim, Wildcard has an interesting take on the Fassi “forward “ pass. The on-field decision is a try, and the TM effing O can only overturn it if it’s clear and obvious, which it was not….

[@DavidTod-d3u]

Tim you mention the Arendse try and the Touch Judge, I think you said Chris Busby, and you said he didn't call it forward. He in fact did the opposite. He watched the whole move like a hawk, and he emphatically signalled to the Ref that it was good. I enjoy your work, thank you, cheers,

[@aManAgainstTime]

As a Bok fan i shudder to think how powerful the English pack could be if they had Ted Hill, jack willis and tom willis in the mix. Same with Henry Arundel playing in the backline.

[@EggchasersRugby]

100%

[@aManAgainstTime]

Unlimited Powah!!! ​@@EggchasersRugby

[@sambale6276]

Jack Willis 100%. The other three are unproven at best.

[@Daniboi971]

It’s insane that Jack Willis isn’t picked. We need to change that law

[@thereader6667]

Jack Willis will be about 36 by the time his contract finishes overseas. Brutal.

[@forret]

Thanks

[@geoffholmes7006]

The TMO “pissed on my chips” 😂😂😂 Brilliant!!

[@rl2204]

I enjoyed that comment

[@marshallbravestar031]

😂

[@viwenombekela8801]

Lol 😅😂🤣

[@aldobonaso3481]

who doesn't like salt and vinegar chips? 🤣🤣

[@jacquidamons1705]

😂😂😂

[@BaneofBalor]

In my opinion, the TMO should only be involved in 1 of 2 situations: A) He is called on by the referee to assist in a decision B) He has spotted potential foul play/dangerous action. B is the only time he should be directly intervening in a game, and if so, he should do so as soon as possible. All other involvements should be a direct result of the referee calling for a TMO review. None of this TMO chiming in because a pass may have been forward or the chaser was a few inches in front of the kicker, and no waiting for play to stop before telling the referee that there was head contact a few phases ago. It should be head contact > tmo tells ref > ref sees 1 or two angles on screen (It's usually fairly bloody obvious on the first angle, but they insist on showing 3-4 angles 2-3 times each) > yellow card > off for review. What's the point of the yellow card review if they show the referee everything they have right in the middle of the game, only for it to be sent off for review anyway. Also, if the referee spots something like head contact, he doesn't need to see it again from multiple angles. He should just tell the tmo that he's seen head contact, recommend a yellow card, and ask the tmo to confirm. No need to put it up on the screen and waste 30 seconds of everyone's time.

[@shinywarm6906]

absolutely. As player and spectator of the 70s, we just accepted that what the ref saw was what happened - even if he saw it wrong. That's what was needed in the spirit of the game. Player safety is the only good reason is use a TMO

[@StopTheRot]

Or, and I don’t necessarily believe this, he should help all of the decisions be the correct decisions. If every decision is correct, always, then it’s fair. The closer we get to this the better?

[@BaneofBalor]

@StopTheRot I think that's largely true, but there has to be a balance of that and the rhythm of the game. If the two extremes are intense analysis at the cost of anybody wanting to actually watch the game, and basically just the ref on the field making all the decisions at the cost of fairness, then we obviously have to strike a balance between the two. I just think that we're too close to the former, where in pursuit of fairness the TMO is calling almost anything he sees. Dangerous play? Sure, call it out. But scrum half picked the ball up an inch from the ground and dropped it for a split second? I've seen that being called out by the TMO before and it's ridiculous. Or that forward pass from SA. Yes, it was forward. Just barely. But if neither the ref nor the linesman have spotted it while in play, I just don't like that we have to go all the way back to it and then review it after the try was scored. It's a little bit less fair but overall more entertaining. You do get occasional games where both the TMO and the ref are really smart about what to call out out and what to let play on and it makes for great games. The problem is that because the TMO has both so much information at his disposal and so much influence on the game, some of them think it's their duty to make sure the game is played exactly to code and end up calling out everything.

[@petebritz]

Agreed! England and SA supporters were happy with both tries until the TMO stepped in, disallowed than and f….ed up the player and viewing experience. Such marginal calls that the on field officials and crowd didn’t see anything amiss.

[@donovanmostert6692]

As a bok fan I'm still confused by the media this year saying how bad England an all blacks have become etc etc and borthwick must go etc etc Sorry guys,both teams are quality and maybe 1 or 3 bounces going another way and 2024 was a different year. Proud of the boks for a great year

[@MrJohnkorn]

But that is what we enjoy, your feedback, honest and unfiltered.

[@stace2777]

What a game! 🎉❤

[@botetiinvestments4019]

Love your thoughts Tim… I wait very impatiently after matches to hear your views. Great overview 👍

[@EssEE8813]

Maro Itoje’s penalty saved the TMO’s blushes. As a Bok fan, I really wanted to see whether Henry Slade’s try was going to be awarded/not, because it was almost a splitting image of Arendse’s try. The angle on TV showed the last pass to be more forward than Fassi’s. If the officials set a standard, then that standard needs to be applied across both teams. We just need consistency.

[@samoday2992]

I feel the same way with the boks blocking the runners during the high kicks. In every game this has veen reffed strictly in this game England got a penalty after about the 5th time it happened. Also the two neck rolls…. No yellows for either team but a red for Scotland last week ? Massive inconsistency

[@lmarislmarislmaris4271]

​@samoday2992 English running blocking lines throughout, and Boks were pinged while England skated. The referees were bending over backward for England.

[@DuaneVoigt]

Wilco Louw was the 50th Springbok cap this year. 50 Players have contributed to the Boks success this year, with a win record of 10 out of 12 games this season. Rugby is a 23 man game the world needs to realize this because SA are already making it a 50 man game.

[@shaneolivier1650]

England played very well and they really pressured our Boks,that wasn't there best but I'm very glad they won, proud of the green and gold, proudly South African 👏👏👏👏👏

[@shaunbishop-z2f]

Thanks for a great show.well done boks.its never easy to win at twickenham.england are a very good team.they will improve.from shaun in south africa.

[@rudolphlaubscher7871]

Thanks!

[@real_bakerman]

That Bok backline was incredibly quick in the first half 🔥💦 My goodness!

[@CarkCark-u9j]

Was equally quick in the second half too?

[@WernerBotha-c7d]

Great Channel Tim. 👍 You know your rugby. We love you here in South Aftica as you well know.

[@HennieScheepers]

Totally agree on your thoughts regarding the TMO

[@toscabrutus1781]

Tim goeie Bespreking! England goed gespeel! Groete!

[@scubadup9151]

Love that you bring in emotion. Emotion of the fans, emotion of the players, etc vs the calls made. Such a difficult scenario to judge, and the officials are not on the winning side here, not making the on field calls so the TMO can is not a great situation.. But that's the hand they've been dealt. Not a great showing from the officials.. Not very consistent and it did seem as though they were a bit uncertain about some of their calls - not for or against a certain side, but just generally.. The players had to guess where the boundaries are and you never want that. Thanks for a great video once again.

[@sqobamhlungujackson4786]

The referee made a real-time call on the pass to Arendse immediately after he caught the ball and said "That's good". Ridiculous that the TMO called that forward after all the focus was on that pass and on-field officials deemed it okay, like you said in the video. Versus The final pass to the English try that was disallowed was definitely forward if the Boks one was deemed to be forward. Side note: I thought England played really well, especially the first half i feel like they won the territorial battles. Which to me says how good the Boks are if they still manage to win games like these. As always, thanks for your work Tim. God bless.

[@barbaraannfrench8773]

It seems to my in the last quarter England get desperate to win and lose their heads

[@nicolenebock1676]

Longest video I've watched/listened to since I started following .. Understandable yah, they're Tim's two favourite international teams ☺

[@jeanm27]

Slade try was also from a forward pass.

[@MarquitoRH]

Stop it

[@dartercam1932]

The try that wasn't given?

[@rorygilmoreNZ]

Great coverage Tim! As a Springbok supporter I have to say I was nervous about this game. One can never take England for granted and they showed it. For all the pressure on Borthwick and his team, I thought they played very well. Their tall timber at the back performed excellently in competing for the high kicks, it was a good tactic. But Kolbe & Arendse are just next level. Some of those England players did very well, especially some of the pack. Agressive, assertive and energetic for most of their time on the pitch. I don’t think England have to worry about Borthwick or the team too much. Experience and time together will make them more competitive soon. And Marcus Smith is a fantastic player. Great feel for the game. Well done England. Having said that though, I was disappointed that Pollard tried a drop goal at the end, and that Reinach kicked the ball out to end the game. They had enough dominance to go for a 7 pointer. The All Blacks of old would have.

[@naushadcassim2698]

Great point Tim on the Kurt Lee Arendse disallowed try. I’m a Saffa and I’m not saying it should have stood BUT the fact that opinion is so divided on it speaks a lot and a TMO can only rule out the referees decision if there is a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS ERROR and there was absolutely nothing clear and obvious about that hence the divided opinion.

[@guyvandenberg9297]

Watched the game in my local bar last night. The real time joke (a few times), when patriots where about to celebrate or celebrating was "hold on, we have not heard from the TMO yet." I found you take interesting, as it was happening in real time at the bar.

[@TP1988]

My issue with the Maro neck roll was that so many times that, something like that or equivalent will be ignored; some TMOs, against some teams, seem more desperate to ‘find a reason to disallow’ rather than reasonably look for howlers, egregious etc.

[@EggchasersRugby]

Agreed. I'd also add if you want to find infringements, you can look at any breakdown and see about 5 different ones. LOTS for a TMO to use if they want to intervene in games

[@DavidSmith-yi8ou]

TMOs aren’t utilised this way in the Rugby Championship. They’re used for try confirmation and genuine fowl play, not potential forward passes or knock ons at the ruck 3-4 phases earlier. Far less intervention than we’ve seen in the autumn series. Hemispheres have different rules for TMO use. I prefer less intervention and leave it to the refs on the field.

[@axxey]

I thought Kolbe? not competing for ball and pulling Stewart? out of the air slamming him into the ground with massive head whiplash was going to be a possible red card, didn't even get a yellow. TMO looking for every other minor technicality.

[@Hiltok]

@@axxey Habana-esque. Brian Habana was a great try scoring winger but I can't ever forget how many opponents he put on their heads by running through and taking their legs out when they jumped for the ball. He's the main reason aerial contests are reffed the way they are now.

[@86sfar]

​@EggchasersRugby EXACTLY!, at any point in a match where there have been a couple of phases strung together, I guarantee you will find an infringement. There are simply too many moving parts in rugby to try to scrutinise everything, if it's obvious it's obvious!!. The game needs to be reffed to keep the flow going and not to constantly feel nervous about it being brought back. Constantly slowing down incidents will always result in loss of momentum and spectacle. It's also not conducive to attracting new supporters to the sport. Love your channel Tim, very cathartic as an English fan. Well done SA absolute quality too.

[@lucymcintosh343]

Great unbiased opinions Tim. Love your reviews. A fan from Zanbia

[@TP1988]

I think another issue with the last 20 minutes thing is that it will give all England’s opponents real belief too. Especially as England aren’t a team who can put on enough points to make it moot by 60 mins. Same thing with England’s cricket team previously - when you collapse so much, it gets into your head that you’ll collapse but it ALSO gives the other team belief that they’re always in the game. Ultimately England need players with better basic skills and more size and speed…

[@TrevorPape-nm9xv]

spot on Tim, enjoy your objective analyses

[@kslice810]

Itoje also has multiple neck roll warnings. Should have been a yellow on the second offence.

[@samoday2992]

You saffers are unreal . You missed the multiple neck rolls you done ?

[@kslice810]

@samoday2992 clearly missed every single one.

[@Kingdom3in1]

​@@samoday2992come on dude we all know Itoje is a dirty player

[@samoday2992]

@@Kingdom3in1 Ebens not ? Was clearly offside for all the charge downs

[@VivianSwartz]

Thanx Tim ,really enjoy every moment of ur show. ❤hope u enjoyed the game yesterday. 👍🤟🙏

[@tobyhart]

The Faf getting there, and the Grant exiting.

[@EggchasersRugby]

Hahaha

[@familychristelis5975]

Hey Tim SA family all the way in Silicon Valley. Love the show , keep it up. Strongly believe De Allende needed a massive shout out his break to get Cheslin away , took the game away from England (mentally) I think you will see Jordan Hendrikse in action this weekend as well as Cameron Hanekom against a Wales team he technically is qualified to play for .

[@okkertgreyvenstein5765]

Damian De Allende was magnificent, Jesse Kriel too.

[@MarquitoRH]

WORLDY centre partnership… we would love something like this in England

[@Andy-bf8os]

I thought Jesse was quiet, but solid. We need to streamline someone as cover for 12 as Esterhuizen isn't the answer.

[@Anwarrondganger]

Good win for the boks❤

[@deonjacobs2240]

A confident Manie with Handre and Sasha and Damien Willemse will be devastating

[@jacquesventer3170]

Yes please no more Manie. He is just too inconsistent, he makes a great play and makes 2 terrible ones. He is also such liability on defence. They targeted him the whole game and made massive meters off his channel

[@kwedini1181]

​@@jacquesventer3170😅😅😂 don't think we were watching the same game or you are just a hater who just cannot keep it under his skin . Manie is yet to improve so long he is under Rassie's wing, yous can say whatever you like but they are not dropping his just to please you poms

[@jacquesventer3170]

@@kwedini1181 the springboks are not a team that you come into and improve. That is what the provincial sides are there for. You mist be the best when you play for the boks. Sasha is wayyyy better and has BMT. Manie has no BMT. He almost cost us the world cup

[@daggaboom]

@@kwedini1181you calling a guy named JacquesVenter a Pom is hilarious. You have met at least 5 jaqcue venters in your life.

[@daggaboom]

@@jacquesventer3170I disagree. Old school bok thinking is you must be the finished article. Rassie is not taking that approach even slightly. Depth is everything and how to use it. And in between world cups, you develop it. World cups is when you deploy the finished articles

[@wynandjordaan73]

Officiating below par for both teams. Great channel. Thanks.

[@WORS06]

Tim after the season is finished could you maybe make a video rating the top10-15 teams overall performances and give your thoughts on their season, who the best players were and what you think the future will hold for the teams, i think this could be a great video, cheers mate love the videos as always

[@EggchasersRugby]

Good idea, thank you!

[@markisaacs5277]

Guess Rassie is the only guy that make so much changes and still get results and afterwards said we can do better than that...the believe management and players have in each other... Congratulations to the Springboks 🎉

[@Opitoukisskiss]

L'Angleterre a affronté seulement les 3 grosses nations de l'hémisphère sud. C'est un énorme défi et le XV de la Rose a été au niveau à chaque fois. Vous auriez pu gagner les 3. Vous avez une très bonne équipe et vous regagnerez très bientôt. Bisous !

[@gawiemalherbe-h3w]

Agreed🇿🇦

[@MarcWithersea]

I think you answered the problem with Eng a couple of videos ago (could have been your team selection preview) - Felix Jones left before the defensive patterns were bedded in, so they're still trying to do it, and seem to be in a phase of "arrested development". You called it before the game ;) And yes, FULLY agree on everything you said about TMO. Wakes up on game day and decides he wants to play a starring role in the match. It's killing the game in exactly the way you described.

[@steve-vc3wl]

Tim, we have some exciting players, I'm judging England today, the A team look and feel more exciting, some fantastic players that are getting overlooked by the main team management.

[@steve-vc3wl]

2 hrs on and they showed me what we are lacking in the first team, Japan should be 100% made up of up and coming players, if you don't try them out how will we ever find out how good some of these fringe players are.

[@pieterventer651]

Great analysis Tim as always - so in-depth and fair - not like some “other” tv shows 😂

[@hendriklombard2254]

The Bok pack that started this game was 52kg short of weighing 1 ton!! A wopping 948kg! That's a lot of pure SA BEEF!!

[@marksony6123]

Imagine if Nhlabakanye was in that pack then it would be close to a ton 😂

[@gl5717]

If I'm not mistaken, Scotland's pack weighed more than the Bok pack last week.

[@hendriklombard2254]

@@gl5717 I think you are right, but last weekend's Bok pack was also lighter than this past weekend's starting Bok pack.

[@NickHiltermann]

Incredible stuff Tim, 121K subs, that just shows how much people are craving an honest unbiassed opinion.

[@VonkMML]

Completely agree on tmo, there should almost be a limit on how much they can intervene. Tmo should be used way more conservatively.

[@dazzac007]

I recently re-watched the first test of Australia v England match in 2016 (reminding myself of the good times :D ) But what I came to realise is that we put ourselves in a situation very much like this years series of test matches where we put ourselves ahead then dip towards the last 15 minutes. except in the 2016 matches, we knew how to finish up games. The balls England had in those last 2 minutes of that first test shows exactly what we're missing. The composure, the drive to win, leadership ( I miss Farrell so much!) I think England should seriously look back at those games and build on what made that 2016 side special because I believe we have that ability with the squad we have currently, it just needs some tweaking.

[@curly19650]

Not cheap at Twickenham. As a Dane, I saw Denmark play Finland for 200 kroner - circa £25.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

How big is rugby that side? Do you think your lads are eyeing a world cup spot in 2027?

[@curly19650]

@@randomlyfactual1943 Sweden are the best of the Scandinavians, but at least two tiers below the 6 nations. Denmark do not have a large playing base, and despite being a country of large individuals, do not have an aggressive and physical mentality. I would expect the Danish national team to be competitive in one of the English National League 2 divisions - I guess it would have to be League 2 North!

[@astralplainer]

What was the score?

[@Daniboi971]

God help us all if the Vikings take up rugby properly!! A team of RG Snymans

[@Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1]

​@@Daniboi971vikings with big tits. It'll never happen

[@LeonVermeulen-d6y]

Thanks for a good program and I always looking forward for the next one from Leon Vermeulen from South Africa 😊😊😊

[@bunsenhoneydew6551]

100% agreement on the forward pass. Was likely forward, but not enough of an offense to pull back the try

[@thudeshreenaidoo3330]

Yeah, for the first time I also never really felt the Springboks were going to lose even though they were behind at times.. they looked very focused and determined 😊 And when Siya and Ox sing so loud in the tunnel.. most teams are in trouble!!!

[@dan15000]

Gonna have to start calling Freddie Steward, Freddie Stobart because he has the turning circle of an 18-wheeler

[@EggchasersRugby]

Hahaha

[@muddyboots1881]

I think Kolbe summed it up in the MoM interview saying the Boks sometimes don't 'stay as hungry as the opposition' for the full eighty minutes+. This game showed some lethargy from the boys in green, although it has to be said England turned up (as they often do, which gets forgotten sometimes) and it was there for them to win.

[@OwamGelem]

Tim, England needs to start selecting foreign-league based players. England still needs player like Owen Ferrel, David Ribbans, Lewis Ludlum, Jack Willis, Joe Marchant and Henry Arundel. This will strike a balance between Premiership players and those outside the Premiership will bring on new experience.

[@cedricpicard9016]

Agreed, while it makes sense for NZ to have such a rule due to travel, players in the top14 can be in England in 2-3 hrs tops. England losing someone like Jack Willis is just insane.

[@andreolivier9208]

Hello Tim, the Henry Slade try was also a foward pass! Look at where the ball was realeased and the hand position and wher did Slade catch the ball, so despite the lock crok rolling Marx it was a foward pass aswell!

[@Arti-iChi]

The decision on whether the pass from Fassie to Arendse was forward depends on the specific angle ...one camera footage appears forward but the other camera footage clearly doesn't look forward

[@tilmanvondelft]

On-field decision was try, conclusive evidence of forward pass would have been needed to overrule on-field decision…

[@vivb5180]

@@tilmanvondelft Yep... And since there was not conclusive visual evidence, the TMO should not have intervened & the try should have stood as per the ref's call. Both the ref & line judge were right there.

[@sambale6276]

🤔 hmm, can't see how you could find an angle where that doesn't look forward.

[@JonnyChronnic]

💯​@@tilmanvondelft

[@samoday2992]

It was miles forward . Stop being one eyed you are starting to sound like AB fans

[@zaine2526]

South Africa just loves you Tim, keep up the great show!! Come visit soon.. Hooyyaa

[@paulhill1662]

Eben PRONOUNCED = Ear-Bin ❤

[@iansinclair7581]

Tim you are right in getting caught up in the atmosphere by being there. That is why you support your team. However sitting at home as a neutral it appeared to me that South Africa had another gear if they wanted to. England were struggling to figure out what to do.

[@chriserasmus]

Good observation and comments. I was a bit p'd off with the ref. At one stage I thought he breathed through the whistle. Any way an ugly win is better than a pretty lose.

[@ColinAnderson-hy2oj]

Another excellent analysis from Tim the Master

[@clintbagley6513]

"then the tmo came and pi$$ed on my chips".... Brilliant Tim.

[@francisschott2141]

Tim, as usual a balanced well constructed video. I completely agree with your take on the officiating and TMOs. We certainly don’t want to go the way of football and VAR. It worries me that players and captains on the receiving end of moments of excellence, immediately get in the referee’s ear when they concede and almost insist that the TMO checks X, Y & Z. As you rightly said, Andrew Brace and the Assistant Referee on the touch line were in the perfect position to make the call! I agree with your views on Steve Borthwick and the dreadful fall off when England’s bench come on. Am I correct that George Ford was the only person left unused? Reckon we have missed a trick to bring in the next generation of players for the future - especially props! Why haven’t we seen the new Gloucester prop, who apparently had Ellis Genge on toast in the recent Bristol v Gloucester match? Questions, questions …

[@Bcharles1200]

There was also a penalty advantage that brace announced that all of a sudden wasn’t. Breakdowns were a lottery.

[@supasocket6401]

The best result for England at this stage as they now have had their weakness exposed by the best team in the world. 60% great teamwork from England now they must only concentrate on the 40% (defence and confidence)not a bad place to be for the next world cup. As for our team, the Bokke, they have set the benchmark.

[@petervandermerwe3125]

Love the game. As you clearly do mate! Also, your informed and passiionate take is much enjoyed!

[@M0RR1S10]

Rassie is playing 2 to 3 different teams at the moment. I believe in about a year or 2 SA would be even harder to beat than they are now and it feels wrong to think it,but they might actually completely dominate the next world cup and go down as the best team in history. Rassie is so focused on the vision and so humble in trusting the system they have made and respecting the teams and players enough to make every game count both for the team and the individual player development.

[@jerrybuirski2344]

Rassie's aim is to have two complete and highly competent teams so that he never has to play the same one in consecutive games at the RWC.

[@Rebelass74]

cheslin kolbe has to be the best South African winger of all time no? Pretty much unstoppable and formidable defense for a small guy.

[@Davidkxf]

No way is he better than Bryan Habana

[@Rebelass74]

@ I disagree, although Habana was faster, Kolbe is a better all round player, I believe he has higher rugby IQ.

[@Entrepreneurial_Asset]

Tim...yet again thanks for this "broadcast" I sincerely hope England can't afford the money to pay Borthwicke out of his contract. I say this because I do enjoy that Borthwicke is giving Marcus Smith so much Test Match Time. I recall when You guys had Ciprianni at Fly half and I liked that he wanted to make things happen. You guys have Smith now and I only hope Borthwicke will develop a game that allows Smith to flourish in Tests because Rugby Union certainly needs such. That aside England has to sort out how what defensive system it wants to use in Tests.

[@SubjectiveFunny]

South African team is legendary at the moment.. Too many of the greatest players in the world, England didn't stand a chance..

[@Olli-nb5cg]

Rugby wins! Your commentary by far the best.

[@philipleroux2765]

Thought ref denied boks a vital advantage when kolbe broke through

[@wauzer1]

@06:25 This is exactly how I feel about South Africa, the team might not be playing great for 2 weeks, but they know how to grind out or know how to convert a draw or 1 point behind game to a win. The other thing that is so different from other teams, they will score tries, they might be choked to play their normal game, but will persevere.

[@rugbywatchesgaming4048]

Spot on regarding ben whitehouse i always know he is going to be involving himself non stop

[@fh7806]

Where was he when Ben earl knocked on ahead of first England try??

[@QuintinStrydom-x6u]

I think one of the biggest benefits of the larger squad is the inability to develop a plan of action if you are the opposing team. I don't know how you work out a game plan if you have seen these guys play together for weeks. Rassie is a sneaky one

[@OldDogNewDawn]

I am a Bokke man, who has lived in the UK for decades. But untimely I am a rugby man and want all rugby tests to end up with a one point margin. The problem with the current England set up is that, in my opinion, it has no identity or style. They are trying to copy other teams successful tactics rather than play to their own strengths. Take the blitz defence, which they are trying to copy from the Boks and other teams. For it to work you have to have a lightening quick backline and back row. As much to get back into position for the subsequent phases as for the initial rush. If you are not naturally fast you will always be playing catch up and will have no rest time, while the quicker backline has time to draw air when they are back in position. So you have to be fit to an unachievable level to play the rush defence for an entire game with a (comparatively - at international level) pedestrian backline. Thats what Rassie was saying. To pick Steward as a fullback using a rush defence is risky. No wonder Rassie waited for Thursday, and once he heard the news of Stewards selection, picked the fastest backline he could, A great counter to Stewards awesome aerial skills. England need to develop their own identity, starting with a spread defence. Defence wins games, attack decides by how much. Tim, a question. Can you see any unselected English players in the premiership who could add speed to the team to allow an effective Ruch defence (if you even agree with what I think?).

[@garyambrosini1427]

I think you're absolutely right, and it's a problem that England have had for a long time now. Rather than come up with their own way of playing, they just try and copy whoever is the best in the world at any particular time. When stuart lancaster was the coach, all the talk was that we have to play like New Zealand, which didn't go well. After the 2019 world cup, when the springboks destroyed our scrum, we got the bok scrum coach, and our scrum hardly improved, if at all even. Then after the last world cup we went and got the springboks defence coach, who has left after not even 1 year in the post.

[@HansJansenvanrensburg]

Sir, Wilko Louw the 50 th bok this season, that is two teams with two benches and a few extra for Rassie to play with. This is big.

[@karlernstbuddenbrock371]

Brace also warned about neck rolls and no yellow cards.