Next Gen AMD Radeon GPU Names, Image, and benchmark leak!!!

[@Fearless13468]

Someone is definitely going to see 9070 and get it over the 5070 because bigger number must mean better.

[@BlackJesus8463]

lolz

[@mort996]

Tbf it probably will be better

[@CA-rg2wv]

And they’ll get triple the vram because of it

[@Tt-tt9my]

It will be. Have fun paying $1k for underpowered gpu with 8gb of VRAM tho. At least yall have DLSS?

[@lolmao500]

Since most consumers are morons, yes

[@ItzVic]

they tryna secure the Nvidia 9th gen rtx names

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

They are just nvidia copycats because nvidia is better

[@Yuri-gf6bw]

pretty sure thats to avoid confusion like with the ryzen 7700x and the radeon 7700 xt

[@Nessy385]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVP its people like you that give nvidia massive market share, the performance of AMD cards is comparable to nvidia while being cheaper

[@GewelReal]

​@@Nessy385yeah and yet nobody is buying them 😂

[@2bnator]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVPWhat is someone like you even doing on this channel?

[@NyxieeeeeNyxie]

I think they skipped the 8000 series in order to have the GPUs and CPUs be on the same generation

[@ertai222]

Makes sense

[@Xilent1]

Your answer sounds more right than them trying to copy Nvidia (precopy I should say) or confuse consumer (though it did/does). The thing is, since we're not technically supposed to know the product name cause AMD themselves haven't told us. When they tell MainStream Media, then I'm sure they will give an explanation. I'm sure its a combination of reasons' that happen to come with it, but I'm sure its like you're saying though.

[@BigGreyDonut]

But they skipped 8000 for CPU’s technically too. I guess they’re setting up the pattern for odd number desktop releases and even number mobile/laptop releases?

[@Fina1Ragnarok]

@@BigGreyDonut They already did that - there's no 6000 series desktop cpus.

[@BigGreyDonut]

@ oh I know lol. I’m actually sitting in front of my 6000 series laptop with a 6800S GPU. AMD has just gone the most round about way of doing this

[@kuroexmachina]

they are basically matching the cpu naming scheme 9000s for cpu 8000s for apu

[@BlackJesus8463]

because that's why people went buying AMD

[@laginat0rr]

What does apu from simpsons have to do with this?

[@TriPBOOMER]

Their CPU naming scheme is a copy of Intel's anyways, i-3,5,7,9 Ryzen,3,5,7,9 This is definitely marketing BS trying to trick people into buying their GPU's, RX9070xt Vs RTX5070 its on purpose... Obviously intended to trap anyone that doesn't know any difference and we don't know how they will compare at the moment.

[@BattleToads]

They have said they were doing this since the 5000 series. I don't know why EVERYONE was expecting there to be an RX8000 series. If there is, it will be some integrated BS.

[@K2-2478]

@@BattleToads they were doing this since the 5000 series rx5700xt....rx6700xt....rx7700xt. they doing what since the 5000 series?

[@hoseinqadam]

At this point I realizer that AMD don't realize how important naming its product can be, both for making consumers understand what they have and where it lies

[@aaronriggs4430]

"Welll, the 9070XT is meant to be more of a 'spritual successor' to the 7600."🥴😂

[@PohnnyRico]

no they are playing 5d chess so you go mad in youtube comments

[@Jeremy-WC]

They don't but unifying gens to cpu and matching secondary numbers to NVIDIA does make sense. if the 9070 matches or beats the 4070 it is the right name unless the 5070 is launched at the same time. then it needs to be better then the 5060 ti though not necessarily tie the 5070.

[@stevenwest1494]

​@@Jeremy-WCnot really? It's not like the old generation will sell out instantly. Besides, it is a stupid naming schemes over generations, and AMD has a terrible history of this. Remember the stupid generation and model wheel they released with AM5 and stupid 5250 processors sold as new when they were actually Zen 2?

[@hoseinqadam]

@@Jeremy-WC Thats my problem, their naming and performance is all over the place, but also they need to stick to a specific naming scheme and run for it, not changing it every fckn generation. Before, the 6800xt (the mid tier card) was battling the 3080, not the 7900xtx (the high end) is the one battling the 4080.

[@mexicanopdb]

No way we're gonna get the Ryzen 4070 before GTA6

[@343JustMe]

...

[@caliginousmoira8565]

exactly what i was thinking lol

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

I want the RTX 5700 XT

[@sharktooh76]

You didn't spot 2 details. 1 - 8060s is benchmarked @ 4k while 8050s @ 1440p 2 - Memory benchmark in the 8060s system is lower and those are iGPUs sharing memory with the CPUs.

[@epoul]

8060S at 3.0ghz and 8050S at 3.2ghz as well, although no mention of core count

[@ShookPC]

Came here to mention the test resolution difference. 👀

[@venomintegra98]

Yeah the 8060S monitor resolution (4k vs 1080p)was the first difference I saw and surprised it wasn't mentioned as a possible factor in the scoring difference.

[@sonisudhanshu85]

I am shocked why this guy didn't know this and mentioned

[@niebuhr6197]

​@@epoulthose are the cpus stock clock, like dude...

[@hughjazz44]

Not sure why AMD went to 4 digit GPUs in the first place. RX 480 - RX 580 - RX5700XT? It should've been an RX 670, and they should've just kept going from there. We'd be talking about the RX 970 at this point.

[@Just_An_Ignacio]

Maybe to differentiate RDNA (RX 5000) from Polaris (RX 500), much like what Nvidia did with GTX and RTX, but worse, in true Radeon style i guess.

[@alrecks619]

bigger number better, duh.

[@kenobi639]

More numbers = more better

[@AlexConnor_]

Because 670 sounds like you have a 2012 GTX card.

[@markojovanovic9651]

They changed their architecture and did a rebrand, I think they just want to exhaust 4 digit numbers since rdna 4 is the last architecture that will be under rdna name, next is udna so instead of going to 5 digits they will start from a smaller number.

[@theneocubed.2633]

I just want a company to keep a consistent naming scheme for 10 generations without skipping numbers or changing something. It’s not hard to do that for just the number in the name.

[@liesandy291]

It honestly irks me they can't count.

[@theneocubed.2633]

Yeah it’s just so basic is counting up.

[@keithlewis1739]

Intel's naming scheme seems pretty solid (for gpus at least)

[@theneocubed.2633]

Yeah Lets hope they don't change it anytime soon or decide to miss a letter

[@catfacecat.]

​@@keithlewis1739its a380 a580 ...a770 b580? no consistency

[@GentlyUsedFrog]

The 8060S benchmark was in 4K while the 8050S one was in 1080p. The 8050S even had a higher base boost clock

[@zyzU400Kg]

i was about to say that. good one

[@danielowentech]

Is there any indication that the benchmark itself renders at the reported display resolution? I don't use synthetic benchmarks like Passmark myself, so I don't have personal experience. I know that when I run GPU benchmarks on my 4K monitor, I can still set the games to render at 1080p, 1440p, etc.

[@GentlyUsedFrog]

@@danielowentech No idea, from just the screenshots you showed us one was at 4K and the other one 1080p, I find it weird to not test them at the same resolution

[@martytube821]

@@danielowentech Passmark gives a penalty for lower resolutions and from me using it over the years 4k gave better numbers than 1440p or 1080p.

[@kerkertrandov459]

Synthetic benchmarks dont mean much

[@Ghost_PM11]

I need AMD to kick Nvidia in the nuts in the midrange.

[@Cantatos]

Not going to happen. Last gen was the best opportunity to do it with aggressive prising and they didn't. Not going to change now.

[@PyroBlonde7777]

It's not going to happen man. Especially after seeing that the 9070XT will be slower than the 7900XT. The only thing it will get over the older gen stuff is better RT performance and AI upscalers.

[@thehind8861]

The 2 most things i despise. Well atleast current gen amd gpus are gonna be cheaper. I hope.​@@PyroBlonde7777

[@disabledcable685]

Both my brothers and me went for AMD this time around, I picked up a 7900xt for 4k and this 7800xt kills it for my 21x9 setup and I got it for $500 bucks almost 2 years ago. Jensen won't be humbled until the dumbass ai market dies but we needed more vram and didn't feel like getting robbed.

[@tadsnyder2756]

But them and they might

[@SyntaxDaemon]

I think the naming change might be to help distinguish them from their CPUs. This is already a big issue with the 7000 series where the Internet constantly confuses things like the 7900xt with the 7900x.

[@kerkertrandov459]

U mean the 7900 xtx with the 7900 xt and the 7900 gre? Cuz theres no 7900x unless u mean the absolute worst cpu amd has made in a long time. No 3d cache, only 12 cores. The 7950x is only a bit more expensive while the 7700x is much cheaper. And the 7800x3d was around the same price (was) while also having 3d v cache.

[@SyntaxDaemon]

@kerkertrandov459 The 7900x is a moden CPU, which is my point. Doesn't matter how good or bad you think it is.

[@GewelReal]

Idk how dumb you have to be to confuse CPUs with GPUs lmao

[@SyntaxDaemon]

@@GewelReal Friend, honey, sweetie, darling. No*body* is getting confused. It's the internet that gets confused. Algorithms, searches, recommended videos... Google and KZbin, essentially, which can't keep track of them. And, as Daniel Owen says in this video, it's annoying to have to specify which you mean constantly.

[@GewelReal]

@@SyntaxDaemon sounds like skill issue

[@ktvx.94]

They changed laptop naming to match Intel and dGPU naming to match Nvidia. Apparently they don't change desktop CPU naming because that's where they're winning.

[@NerdyThrowbackTech]

Waiting for CES 2025

[@telesiak2484]

AMD has the worst naming in the industry. Like wtf is this

[@Thunderhawk51]

It's embarrassing, that's what it is. Can't come up with something original of their own they can be proud of.

[@sujimayne]

It's the naming scheme from ATI days.

[@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters]

Idk, Intel has K, F, KF, T

[@mytech6779]

​@@Thunderhawk51 Don't need original, just need a rational simple product numbering system. Stop allowing marketing jackoffs to derail it.

[@adity-m2g]

Still no as bad as Intel

[@Yoogaki]

Just wait for the 42069XT

[@BlackJesus8463]

X10XTXXX

[@OrlandoCaba]

lmao

[@darkkingastos4369]

Blaze it backwards

[@Kneel2ThaCrown]

Nice

[@drunkard_empire]

You win the interweb for the day...!

[@sangrevili3328]

AMD's marketing team really does suck.

[@BlackJesus8463]

need a new CEO

[@shamkraffl6050]

@@BlackJesus8463 I'm sure that Lisa Su is the reason that AMD got even as far as they are right now.

[@SemperValor]

Yeah I think im done with AMD at this point... This was a dumb move.

[@christophermullins7163]

@@SemperValor omg. Boycott for a name change.. not for lies and criminally low vram for planned obsolescence. Great logic. Good luck.

[@laszlodajka5946]

​@@christophermullins7163Second this. Overreaction

[@gamesushi]

The 70 on the end is more in line with what they used to do. I had a Radeon HD 7970 back in the day. Was the 7900XT of its day. Skipping the 8000 series is a little strange though, was expecting them to finish fleshing it out with an 8900XT and XTX.

[@dariuszcalkowski6208]

Maybe nvidia 8600 name was restricted still from 2006

[@thecwwshow8036]

To be fair they might change all the naming scheme when going to udna. But that might be looking to much into it lol

[@markojovanovic9651]

They wouldn't since they are changing the architecture to UDNA from RDNA so I think it would make sense for them to exhaust the 4 numbers now and make a new naming scheme for UDNA. They scrapped the RDNA 4c long time ago so there wouldn't have been a 8900xt/xtx at all

[@alrecks619]

well, the HD 8000 series was OEM only part, but still kind of strange lmao.

[@kcl5038]

I had 2 7970's and a 7990 in litecoin mining rigs before I retired it to buy a 1080ti. I took a break from pc gaming in 2019 and you can only imagine my surprise when the 7900xtx was the most powerful gpu from radeon. Felt like i was going backwards. I knew that was the card i had to get though.

[@UnluckyDomino]

a change they didnt need to make. this switch up should've been reserved for UDNA since that'll be an actual architecture change. RDNA4 isnt maybe its just to make this launch catch some eyes. because everything else about rdna4 is boring

[@Just_An_Ignacio]

Maybe UDNA will use another number scheme, like RX 1000 or 100 series.

[@UncleButterworth]

UDNA might have a different prefix altogether.

[@watcherofcontent806]

It’s dumb. They should’ve at least waited until UDNA if they wanted to change their naming scheme

[@andersjjensen]

99% of consumers can't name the architecture anyway.

[@greebj]

Oh don't worry I'm sure they will change again

[@BudgetGamer92]

You're spot on with AMD needing to cut their pricing to achieve their goal of taking market share away from Nvidia.

[@michaelpalin8953]

We have an air-tight strategy to gain market share: Call our cards more like Nvidia's!

[@BlackJesus8463]

line go up!

[@andersjjensen]

It worked for CPUs...

[@rallyscoot]

@@andersjjensen And Motherboards as well.

[@Louis_Bautista]

@@andersjjensen What worked for their CPUs was being better than Intel's. Their GPUs and software accompanying them are still far behind Nvidia.

[@andersjjensen]

@@Louis_Bautista The Ryzen 2600 was objectively worse than Intel's 9600k for gaming, but it was so absurdly good value that many opted for it. The 3600 cemented that even further and sold gangbusters. It's not until the 5600 vs 10600 that they were at parity in gaming. So no, it was comparable naming and value that took AMD's CPU division out of the financial dark ages. That AMD then shortly after took the gaming crown and became "the good brand" is another story.

[@SDRaygon]

8060S was on a 4k Display though, idk if that affected anything

[@elcazador3349]

Is AMD attempting to confuse the less attentive buyer?

[@ryanspencer6778]

Yes. They're going full "bigger number better" since they can't actually make good hardware and aren't willing to lower their profit margin.

[@Efsaaneh]

@@elcazador3349 imma be real with you nvidia fooled me with the "ti" when i was a dumb teen so needless to say this will probably work

[@Br0wncheesE-]

@@Efsaaneh what do you mean you were fooled by the «ti»? not trying to be snarky, just curious what you mean

[@hornantuutti5157]

My7800xt is working just fine. Actually pretty good card.

[@dmytrosoboliev935]

​@@Br0wncheesE-apparently buying something like gtx 550ti and thinking that it's the best thing in the world, because it has "titanium" part in it's name

[@JasonAtlas]

Why do they need to fuck up the names? I liked the naming system. I thought the xt and xtx stuff was a bit silly but that's fine. I was very parasocialy attached to getting and Rx 8600. :(

[@JasonAtlas]

I would also have accepted an Rx 860.

[@JasonAtlas]

Maybe less numbers would be better. Idk. I don't like the change.

[@thesilentassassin1167]

Same here I was dreaming about 8800XT

[@JasonAtlas]

@@thesilentassassin1167 It just feels good. 8 is a nice round number.

[@adriancioroianu1704]

@@thesilentassassin1167 i can tell you spend way too much time on techtube channels. especially the fortune telling ones.

[@davideberhardt1361]

I wonder how many of these leaks are planned to build anticipation/speculation and excitement for their products

[@jasonvors1922]

Amd has a bad habit of over hyping their products

[@BlackJesus8463]

imagine demanding subpar products

[@AstroBot-bc0213]

None their marketing team is not smart enough to do something like that

[@davideberhardt1361]

@AstroBot-bc0213 lol fair point

[@Efsaaneh]

What the heck is AMD even about bro

[@josiahsuarez]

Advanced Micro Devicea

[@LCC.Gaming]

Well it got to the point where their 900 and 800 class GPUs were competing with the Nividia’s 70 class. Dumb naming didn’t really help RDNA 3 and for normies it must’ve seem confusing. If the 9070XT is basically a much better 7900XTX, then AMD’s 70 class GPUs may end up seeming like a better value compared to NVIDIA’S 70 class for next gen. I like the naming scheme as it finally simplifies the nonsense they had before hand😂

[@BIGFESH]

@@Efsaaneh better prices, better price to performance ratio. That's what they are about

[@apokalip6]

una basura obsoleta que vende graficas con solo vram que se queman.....

[@apokalip6]

@@BIGFESH claro claro, basura obsoleta, es normal que valga menos con sus pesimas tecnologias y componentes basura que se queman

[@wrmusic8736]

Good thing they went with this naming scheme because discussing a 9700 would've been a pain in the ass for three reasons

[@Traumatree]

Finally, we're OVER 9000!

[@noquarteratall780]

When AMD said they were targeting midrange I think we were all hoping mid range of the the new gen and not last gen.

[@andersjjensen]

According to MLID the highest spec RDNA4 GPU has raster in between a 7900XTX and 7900XT and RT on par with a 4070Ti Super, so if this 9070XT is that, then the naming and performance does line up with where we roughly expect the 5070/5070Ti to be. Which is mid to upper mid range.

[@noquarteratall780]

@@andersjjensen 80 is mid not 70 and he literally said in this video and others i've seen today it ain't expected to be as good as it was hyped

[@Jabid21]

@@andersjjensenit will all come down to price. I’m betting AMD will not price it well and will struggle to move units until they will cut prices when everybody else already bought their RTX 5070 and B580s

[@andersjjensen]

@@Jabid21 Yup. If the performance rumors are somewhat on point, and AMD comes in at $500 (which I think the name kinda implies they will) then it's going to move some units for sure. If they come in at $650 it will get stupid reviews like the 7700XT did.

[@andersjjensen]

@@noquarteratall780 If you consider 80 class mid then you're very alone with your opinion. 80, 80ti and 90 (previously Titan) are the top, 70 and 70ti are upper mid, 60 and 60ti are lower mid, and 50, 50ti are the low tier.

[@joshlewis8860]

It will never not be weird to me how chill Daniel is yet his comment section is so unhinged. People dragging each other through the mud for daring to have an opinion on a rumor My opinion is that I don’t care that they seem to be changing their naming scheme. Anyone watching this video is already a nerd, its not going to be difficult for us to adjust.

[@gustavoszambrano904]

@03:46 OMG! Please look at Primary Display monitor information. 8060s is running 4k resolution while 8050s on 1080p resolution and is being benchmark according to it.

[@pantsgaming759]

AMD had a ok naming scheme then the xtx come in and screwed it all up and now they are copying nvidia its a new low. Only worse naming scheme out is the stupid xbone names.

[@krilektahn8861]

If this is what the 9070 is pushing, it's DoA if it's more than $400. The fact that it's slower than a 7900XT is pretty surprising.

[@Sigma1]

Amd really wants to be nvidia. I'm so happy about intel disrupting the duopoly.

[@nameless.0190]

A very one sided duopoly.

[@darkfire3691]

And what intel did disrupt?

[@alb.1911]

Maybe you didn’t notice that Intel is just disrupting himself 🤣

[@mrdinosaurproductions9507]

@@alb.1911The B580 is literally better than everything below $350. What are you talking about. It even beats the 4060 ti sometimes

[@swapneelbehera260]

​If ngreedia don't have entry level product soon and if Intel can pump out volumes of b580 it will surely disrupt ngreedias position somewhat slightly though not much .​@@alb.1911

[@qnoorani]

Good strategic move by AMD with the name change. i hope they can take some of the market back and get after NVIDIA just like they did with Intel. I enjoy watching your videos Daniel. Wishing you much success. Happy Holidays man!

[@MD-se8ft]

Fsr 4 should come to rx 7000 too, it has ai cores that aren't utilized, and pssr used rdna 2.5

[@James-dc6ft]

3.5 not 2.5

[@rallyscoot]

source? If AMD is Joking, then FSR 4 will be limited to RDNA 4 and upwards only.

[@SemperValor]

@@rallyscoot If FSR 4 is only for RDNA 4 which is 2 crappy low end GPU's AMD is done for...

[@jessietomich8043]

@@SemperValor Right, because it won't work on GPUs going forward. When ray tracing launched on the 2000 series GPUs it launched on 3 cards and it was largely unusable at the time on the 2070 2080 and 2080ti with the few games patched for it at the time.

[@MD-se8ft]

@@James-dc6ft thanks for the correction

[@TLM-Nathan]

3:32 I think it's fair to mention the 8060S is using a 4k display while the 8050S is using a 1080p display. Not sure if that affects the benchmark at all, they are also using different SSDs and such. So it's not really and apples to apples comparison between the two.

[@IceCreamePudding]

Of course it matters which 5000 series launches first, I don't want the 5090 to be hit with tariffs a month after announcement lol

[@BlackJesus8463]

typed from your 3060

[@thesilentassassin1167]

Tariffs aren’t confirmed

[@benhawk4214]

​@@BlackJesus8463you don't type with a gpu silly

[@viego29]

Ehh I think companies will charge more regardless using "tariffs" as a guise

[@andersjjensen]

@@viego29 You do know that you can see tariffs itemized on the receipt, right? Tariffs is an import tax, and is listed as such.

[@juanb0609]

Note that the 8060S is on a 4k Monitor while the 8050S is on a 1080p monitor. in minute 4:17 PS: What I wanted to show with this is that the scores are about the same because of this difference in the resolution, if both would be on 1080p the 8060S would have a much higher score.

[@moto6981]

Sounds like a good move. If 9070 performs better than 5070. People will be more attracted to 9070 easy

[@The_Batman-vengance]

No they wont people will see Nvidia say dlss4 get you 5x the fps on Fortnite and valorent and cod and people will go and buy it and will give people graphs and people will be like what is this? Does this 5x your fps? And also amd is alway 1 year late Nvidia isn't And remember 2025 is a gpu season that is when people upgrade their 20s or 30s or rx6000 graphics cards they want the most convincing one which is done by marketing

[@nipa5961]

50 series seems to be DOA again.

[@imo098765]

further down those rumours of the name it says 9070XT is worse than a 7900XT and around a 4070Ti So Nvidia will need to make a proper shit 5070 to make the 9070XT look good if they are similarly priced as AMD has done for the past few generations

[@ZackSNetwork]

False big numbers don’t always mean better.

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@imo098765Anyone with common sense excepted it to match a 4070ti Super. Especially with only 16gb vram on a 256bit bus.

[@00Drizz00]

7:47 I heard that AMD will not be releasing a reference version of this card, and it that is the case the card it the picture is AIB or CG, either way nice.

[@EvilKatarn]

I just need something that can crank Monster Hunter Wilds at 4k with quality upscaling. AMD pls.

[@albal156]

@@EvilKatarn 5090 or bust.

[@albal156]

@@EvilKatarn also imo 4k is stupid. Too expensive and you have to upgrade every gen.

[@marceloviana2383]

just my 2 cents: look at 50s vs 60s resolutions 60s have "said" less performance but was at 4k resolution when 50s was at 1080p. Not a benchmark expert but that's what i got from that part on your video. thanks for the video, really appreciated.

[@strongman5861]

So next gen it will be 11070 xt vs 6070 ti?

[@AzariusR]

So you're saying that the Ryzen 4070 is not a meme after all... And that a future Radeon RX 42069 XT GRE is possible?!

[@aloomiii]

trynna riz me up at 6:01 ?

[@Eliminater25]

Love your takes on the 9000 series Daniel, great work! Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to you and your family! Enjoy your time off 💪

[@BIGFESH]

AMD leaks ok ok now you have my attention.

[@Reluctant_Hero]

Same here. 😂

[@BIGFESH]

@Reluctant_Hero I just got into PC building back in April / may and I've only ever used AMD. Nvidia to me IMO seems like the "social media" card. Like every streamer you see uses a 4090 because "it's the best" meanwhile ALOT of us real world normal folk are rocking an AMD card for the far superior price to performance ratio. IMO the 7800XT MIGHT just be the best overall card for "most" people. The only reason I upgraded to the 7900XT is because I'm OCD and it was in my head that there is a better option and I just had to have it.

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

Amd = for broke people Nvidia = best of the best COPE

[@Reluctant_Hero]

@ Child, please. 🤦‍♂️

[@bigfella4546]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVP You for sure have an RTX 3050.

[@simonwest6002]

The 8060/8050 pages in the video show the resolution used and its 4k vs 1080p. Probably why theres a difference?

[@douglasmurphy3266]

Try an *X-TRA BIG-ASS GPU* , now with more *MoLeCuLeS*

[@BlackJesus8463]

it melted twice

[@De2t3ny]

5:20 so we are gonna just ignore that the one "card" is running on 4k and the other on 1080? rez matters on scores

[@yuan81]

I think the 9070 is competing with the 5070 and the 9070xt is competing with the 5070ti. There have been rumors that the new AMD card will be on par with the 4080 both in terms of rasterization and ray tracing, so this naming strategy is consistent with that speculation.

[@markojovanovic9651]

at 220 watts too

[@spektrumB]

at US$500, please. Performance means nothing without knowing the price.

[@rotm4447]

It would be very hard to match the 5070 ti, amd is so far behind.

[@letsplay1097]

Yesh no , recent leaks show that the 9070xt is barely better than the 7900gre

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

you're only fooling yourself if you believe it will match the 4080, especially in RT ( which no one has said that about RT performance ) it will perform worse that the 7900 XT, it might get close to the 4070 in RT imo. none of the cards will compete with the 5070ti, it will barely match the 5070 and probably only sell for $100 less, which didnt work for them last time, and wont work this time. They're no where near aggressive enough. they'll price it at $499, people will just buy the 5070 at $599 and then Amd will lower the price down to $449 after everyone has moved on. A never ending cycle of failure for the radeon division lol

[@2dgirl]

hi im a long time viewer and i just wanna say you are rly good AND ur very cool at what you're doing..

[@justinbreeden7922]

could be a brainfart of the intern that updated the webpage

[@Thunderhawk51]

I sure hope so!

[@pops9049]

Did anyone notice the screen resolution on the 8000 series APU's? Timestamp is 4.18. I would have thought that apples to apples comparison would need the same resolution.

[@drkRoss89]

If the new 8000 series SOC GPUs are outperforming an RX 7600, the new generation of handheld PCs are going to be very interesting over the coming months.

[@joshlewis8860]

Fair, I’ve never been interested in handheld gaming but I’ll be paying attention this time

[@niebuhr6197]

These are NOT for handhelds. Anyone with 2 working neurons understand why.

[@drkRoss89]

​@@niebuhr6197It's quite literally designed as a mobile chip. What's stopping them from scaling the technology down and putting it on a handheld device?

[@niebuhr6197]

@@drkRoss89 it's a mobile chip... for HIGH PERFORMANCE laptops. Not handhelds. Even just 60w sustained is well beyond the cooling capability of any handheld in existence.

[@drkRoss89]

@@niebuhr6197 Again. Like I said. What's stopping them from scaling the technology down?

[@crackheadjonezzz]

3:24 is this not due to the 8060S being run at 4k and the 8050S being run at 1080p?

[@elirantuil5003]

This is so incredibly stupid.

[@BlackJesus8463]

lol

[@btbarr16]

Does resolution effect the passmark score? 8060s is using a 4k monitor while the 8050s is using a 1080p monitor. If FPS is accounted for in the passmark score, that could be the difference.

[@keyboard_g]

This really is becoming the leak and rumor channel now.

[@okaynotagain8142]

That's basically every tech channel pre next generation GPU/CPU release

[@kaznika6584]

It's always been this way

[@gamezenchill]

I think you've missed the fact that the resolutions are different. 4k resolution for the 8060s and 1080p for the 8050s. Surely that makes a difference even in synthetic benchmarks right ?

[@UnluckyDomino]

they arent just competing with DLSS anymore. Intel XeSS when using the XMX pathway on Arc cards is quite good, noticeably better than FSR in motion. AMD is behind the curve, by years.

[@BlackJesus8463]

how pathetic would it be to demand upscaling 🤣🤣

[@hugoanderkivi]

AMD has been working with Sony regarding PSSR, so they aren't as behind as you think. They went public with their collaboration called "Amethyst".

[@erickgonzalez2887]

@@BlackJesus8463when even the new kid on the block gives me better upscaling that’s basically required nowadays, yea I kinda want good upscaling in my 700$ card

[@andersjjensen]

@@erickgonzalez2887 Intel headhunted the lead developer of DLSS. XeSS is basically DLSS for Intel specific hardware. That Intel has a fallback mode for generic Shader Model 5.0 just shows that Nvidia could have done so as well.

[@cobaltss50]

Majority of the people who biy amd are playing in pure rast, they arent looking to use upscale methods much at all, maybe small % when needed, majority dont buy amd for that.​@erickgonzalez2887

[@hochhaul]

I would be willing to bet at least part of the change is for search engine optimization reasons. There have been many 9000 series Radeon cards in the past, plus AMD's current Ryzen 9000 lineup. There is obviously an additional psychological benefit to having cards with similar naming scheme but a bigger number.

[@xKamiiii]

my 6950 xt serves me just fine at 1440p. imma skip this generation gladly

[@pravnav]

Lol I still play with my 3060 at 1440p

[@External2737]

If you have a 3070 or better or a 6800 or better, little benefit to upgrading. Only 15% of gameplay is latest games, so wait.

[@johnsmith-i5j7i]

Upgrade to octo 5090 super ti water-cooling with custom block

[@jawohlbxb3534]

I think that 6950XT will serve you well even in 4k

[@xKamiiii]

@@pravnav honestly depending on the games you play, medium settings + upscaling can probably get the job done still

[@Tehral]

The scores were also with different resolutions... I assume it makes a difference

[@hinatashoyo2999]

If the card isn't 499$ and has same performance as a 4080 I won't buy

[@Jojo_Tolentino]

I think the current naming scheme is better since they can chuck in xx50 or xx70 indicating the refresh and better card of that tier. We could've gotten the RX "7970" for old times sake. Now, we'll likely just get non-XT/XT/XTX.

[@40CAL]

They're finally trying to make it less confusing by making it more confusing

[@TheLapari]

4:00 I think it's because 8060S was using 4K resolution, while 8050S was using 1080p 🤔

[@kennethpereyda5707]

Is that a 9700 XT TI super ?

[@MinadoCoelho]

the benchmark between 8060s and 8050s, the 8060s was done in a 4K monitor, while de 8050s in FHD. Isn't that why it is showing the 8050s having best results?

[@kennethpereyda5707]

Ok, but why the number change ( if Daniel is right about the confusion over CPU/GPU 7600X (XT) ) then why the number from 7900 XTX to 9070, why not the 9900 XT or something similar

[@mickidydee]

Wonder if they will have more than 8gb of vram x.x

[@Quizack]

That iGPU is super exciting. I recently bought an ASUS Vivobook laptop with an 8845HS and it has a 780m iGPU. It’s actually performs really well in gaming considering is not a gaming focused laptop. Great for older games, indie games, and emulation. Having 7600 performance would be a massive upgrade, and I’m already happy.

[@andrewvirtue5048]

I think this is a strategic plan to make NVidia change their naming scheme *_OR_* they're trying to create a uniformity in the market to help compare brands.

[@breitbandfunker4332]

Do you think, that the naming sceme can affect the speed of the card?

[@mapleschnitzel2473]

Not sure if it matters but the display resolution are different on the 8050s and 8060s

[@MechAdv]

I’m really glad that AMD decided to go with “70“ class branding for their card this gen. Although I guess since Nvidia charges $600 for a 70 class card now, that doesn’t mean much for pricing

[@Denbot.Gaming]

sounds like they're going back to the old naming convention back when the HD6990 was a thing, they did 6x00,6x50,6x60, 6x70, 6x80 and 6x90 back then... the HD6990 was a dual GPU, two GPU cores on one PCB...

[@andersjjensen]

Dual. Not duel. A duel is when two are fighting. And I hope the GPUs aren't fighting on a dual GPU board. They should be working together :P

[@Denbot.Gaming]

@@andersjjensen it's been a long day... man do you remember crossfire back then... now that was a duel... all the profiles etc... that HD6990 was still playing games as of 2021.... 50-60 FPS at 1080p high settings

[@andersjjensen]

@@Denbot.Gaming Yup. I had a HD7990 that I "side graded" to an RX 580 because the performance was so inconsistent. Some games where 50% faster than the RX580 and some were only half speed. The RX580 was a trooper though. Lasted me until the pandemic where work from home became a thing, so a move to 1440p was warranted. Reading code for 8 hours a day on cheap 1080p monitors was pain, so a 6700XT was needed. But a 6700XT at 1440p didn't last me nearly as long... mostly because of "the upgrade itch", so now I have an XTX.

[@wolveric0]

the low to mid range scene is getting interesting with intel and AMD, how much power would we be able to get for 500 usd?

[@amortalbeing]

@5:14 how come rtx3060 12gb outperforms rtx3080!!?

[@raysparks3161]

By far your best thumbnail

[@chico_fiesta]

Isnt the 860s doing the test at 4k?

[@SansAppellation]

1:50 Well it does seem they have repositioned the 8800xt as 9070xt in order to compete directly against the 5070. Instead of getting blown out by 5080. Though competing against 5070 is in itself is a little worrying as that suggests they won't compete with the 5070ti. Though it is probably better for consumers in the long run, if they can't compete with Nvidia's professional end of their stack. Though then again, it could be used as an effort to further normalise the higher prices of the 70 class of card, which would be a bad thing...

[@markojovanovic9651]

Well the last time the x800 series competed with nvidia 80 was the 6800/xt. It is obvious they wanted to compete with a 5070 now but if they named it 8700XT it would be confusing since a 7700 XT was really a 4060ti competitor. And going for 8800xt was what we all expected but I lowkey think that they did a better naming scheme. xx70 competes against xx70. Less confusing if you ask me.

[@greebj]

What makes you think that? 9070XT vs 5070ti and 9070 vs 5700 would make sense if they're naming based on specific matchups They just now have to deliver ballpark performance with better value and not have people sucked in by whatever feature locked stuff and bee ess benchmarks NVIDIA plaster all over the 50 series launch

[@Zetpherious]

They skipped the 8000 series naming because those were released as Mobile GPUs / APUs

[@nicdiamond9989]

I’m building a pc now , I want a 7800 XT , should I wait for 8000 series / 9000 series ?

[@Jason_Bover9000]

What will be after 9070 10000xt ?

[@kittenmaya2088]

8060S was tested at 4k whereas the 8050S was tested at 1080p, which explains the difference in performance. Would much rather have the raw power (and optimizations) and not need software like DLSS/FSR/XESS to even exist, persoanlly feels like a "cheat code" for lack of raw power/"lazy" game optimization.

[@Squiggly667]

Why did you not note that the 8060s' primary display was listed at 4K while the 8050s' was at 1080p? If they were tested at native res, that would indicate the 8060s as the stronger GPU. 4K is much harder to push than 1080p.

[@joeplatz7289]

Agree with the naming change helping with CPU distinction, names currently too similar

[@newsnetworkz]

In fact, if Nvidia and AMD should cooperate in naming method which helps consumers understand their cards better

[@proudyy]

13:17 XeSS soon gets version 2 which comes with frame generation and it's quality is better than FSR 3.

[@milowmilo]

They did not skip the 8000 series gpus. The 8000 series gpus are actually for RDNA 3.5 chips.

[@ItzVioletPanda]

Straight to the point, my man!

[@alc5216]

Umm.. typo? 🤔

[@longjohn526]

Occam's Razor says it is nothing but a typo

[@zodwraith5745]

At this point there's nothing that Radeon marketing could do that would surprise me.

[@TrinityLinkq]

i got the 7900xtx from someone on offerup for $500! and damn its a good gpu i cant believe im getting 200fps ultrawide on rdr2 but AMD needs to get their drivers up cause it crashes ALOT especially on like warzone, marvel rivals and sometimes even on fortnite. same thing happens on my 7900gre this was never an issue on my 2080ti

[@Cloudz2021]

What is "high-end"? 4k, 1440p? $800+?, high refresh rate 1440p?