FSR 4 Looks AMAZING & RX 9070 XT Performance and Release Date Leaks

[@NikTek]

AMD has always kept FSR 3 available across all the GPUs including the competitors, but when a tech like FSR 4 is exclusive to new Radeon GPUs (perhaps due to AI cores) suddenly everyone hates them for it

[@pravnav]

Exactly lmao this will actually give people an incentive to buy amd for once. Before there was literally no reason to buy amd apart from value. I want to see amd succeed and this is a huge step for them

[@PURENT]

What even is an AI core, cause RDNA 3 has "AI accelerators"? If they make it exclusive, I mean then they're just doing the Nvidia thing where the new tech gets locked to only the new card which they deserve the criticism for.

[@jasonvors1922]

​@@pravnav The Rx 7000 series has ai cores

[@EmilePesky-n1v]

​@@pravnavwell, I still haven't pulled the trigger on a big buy GPU recently so I'm happy for them to do that. I bought a 6800xt but returned it due to fault.... So 9000 series is on the radar.

[@Meansoduck]

havent seen a single person complain about that man

[@adg_ch]

"Just setup a booth with our latest tech. Don't have any of our guys talk about it." "But sir--" "The attendees will do the marketing for us. 🗿"

[@TheTpointer]

This would be the big brain move.

[@BrianSkinny-n5f]

That seems to be more or less the move at this point, let the consumer market decide rather than blow smoke up our arses.

[@THEpicND]

@@BrianSkinny-n5fif this is the true plan, then it’s honestly refreshing, especially after all the borderline lying nvidia did in their presentation

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@THEpicND sadly, I know way too many people convinced by the 5070 = 4090 BS so I think it's about time, if amd wants market share to up the b******* by 1000%, otherwise they'll keep declining

[@JohnDoe-ip3oq]

It's not consumer grade, it's tech demo grade. 60 fps limit, hides the hit.

[@ballercat]

AMD at CES: We took our marketing budget and gave it to our engineers

[@bionicseaserpent]

I'd much rather the engineering teams get the majority of the budget. It means they actually make products worth buying. And then people won't buy them because the marketing team is dumb. Its a kinda catch 22.

[@DEATHTRUTH]

@@bionicseaserpent If its good, youtube reviewers will do their marketing for them.

[@kalidesu]

And not enough on their software engineers I guess too.

[@toad7395]

@@DEATHTRUTH Thermalright type marketting

[@bionicseaserpent]

@@DEATHTRUTH it sounds like its a flawless method, until you realise all they ever show off and talk about is Nvidia

[@mybaIIz]

The People: "Hey, AMD, what ya been workin' on bud?" AMD: "Uhh uhh uhh"

[@MechAdv]

Truly stoner kid high school science fair level of preparation for this event. 😵‍💫🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Zenneth23]

Bro that comment reminded me of the Peter Griffin from family guy when he did a parody song "Can't touch this" 😆

[@ChinchillaBONK]

Uuhhh AYYYEE EEYYE! (AI)

[@ΗΗΗΗΗΗ0000]

amazing but not diss 4 amazing

[@manuelight]

@@MechAdvthey had to present before nvidia, they didn’t want to risk stating anything inferior to make sure they start on the right foot with the launch

[@iamspencerx]

I hate the AI craze, but I think AMD would strongly benefit by getting their marketing done by AI at this point

[@alrecks619]

yeah, i mean, they can just fire their marketing department in favor of AI at this point.

[@edgyzero6305]

you could legitimately get far better marketing by just asking the basic model of chat gpt to do it

[@ItzMyTime___9]

ai is actually good better performance at lower cost. its the future accept it.

[@bensadfleck9972]

@@ItzMyTime___9 HELL YEAH I LOVE MASSIVE INPUT LAG AND GHOSTING!!

[@cristiannegru8038]

​@@bensadfleck9972 you do know that as ai improves. I am sure they will be reducing all the main issues. So it legit will be less issues for more fidelity with less raw hardware

[@Reardon.]

Am I detecting a case of under promising over delivering????

[@endmymiseryyy7908]

That would be a nice change ngl.

[@claxcz]

its a nice change, it would sell like hotcakes if thats the case.

[@Tracenji]

they must have hired someone new to the marketing team which came up with this completely new, never heard of, insane, revolutionary idea!

[@raikoh05]

that would be ideal, but against AMD's nature. marketing is supposed to market

[@jesusbarrera6916]

There's no promises at all.... AMD basically said nothing

[@Mechenzo440]

Consumers: wtf you doing amd? Amd: i dont know either

[@jrgd8238]

Lol that's totally true 👍

[@Taylormartin7289]

This but unironically

[@JROCC0625]

Ironically it's getting people talking so they are doing something right😂

[@carrotsmoker9901]

amd: we made an apu that outperform a desktop 4060 but we don't wanna talk about that, look at our weird new names instead

[@kevinerbs2778]

More like AMD: idgaf, you aren't going buy stuff anyways, why should i care anymore?

[@tek1645]

There's a live streamer who went to the same booth and the AMD representative said it's FSR 4.

[@tek1645]

EsfandTV if anyone is wondering, let me find the timestamp. EDIT: It's at 1:59:00 on his vod from yesterday on Twitch.

[@darindial8908]

Nice catch

[@quanbui945]

I check the video - the rep keeps calling this a driver-based implementation?

[@geo_beans]

​@@quanbui945That would make sense. Like Daniel said, it seems like there's a driver based upgrade to FSR 4 for any FSR 3.1 implementation. I think that's awesome, and it will mean that FSR 4 will be usable on a lot of games at launch, rather than the 2-3 that previous FSR generations saw.

[@vicentemendez6932]

nice dude, thanks

[@Zysperro]

In classic AMD fashion they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity

[@Dark.Syndicate]

I hope not this time. otherwise people would just be disappointed and go with nvidia, and i wont be able to recommend amd anymore

[@m0n4rch_y]

@@Dark.Syndicate yeah sure recommend fake performance to others

[@worm6820]

​@@Dark.Syndicate disappointed with what exactly? there not being 300ms of input delay?

[@miawuwu2255]

their answer to 4060 is baffling, imaging paying an exact same card but with extra vram for $80 more while 4060 also dropped price to as far as $280 at holiday season

[@syncmonism]

What's the missed opportunity? What are they going to lose by waiting a few extra days before releasing more information and announcing pricing? Nvidia hasn't shown much yet except lies and bullshit, and we will find out soon enough how AMD's graphics cards actually perform when independent reviews are released. I am well aware that AMD's benchmark numbers released two years ago also turned out to be bullshit, but it was an honest mistake at least, rather than deliberately misleading. The benchmarks were based on unstable beta drivers which they were unable to get working stable without reducing performance, unfortunately. It was indeed a pretty epic fail. They are no doubt being more careful than they were last time! AMD will release more info on these cards when they choose to. Just be patient. What's so important about releasing info during their keynote at CES, vs. doing it later? They may have intentionally waited for Nvidia to show their hand before deciding on their own pricing.

[@TEk0n]

I think it makes sense they don’t wanna talk about it they might have better value at the mid range but can’t compete with cooked numbers of 75% fake frame comps

[@malucart]

Clearly they should introduce FSR unlimited frame gen mode and claim to be infinitely faster than a 4090

[@leonfrancis3418]

If they can't compete with them, then maybe it doesn't matter if the frames are fake or not.

[@dochedgehog]

Or they’re showing project amethyst related FSR stuff. FSR x PSSR which is why they aren’t outright calling it FSR 4 at this station. It’s a research project. They just announced one with Sony

[@DaFiestyBanana]

​@@leonfrancis3418L take

[@TheVanillatech]

@@malucart They should make a fake frame from a real frame, then make 2 fake frames out of THAT fake frame, then make 4 fake frames out of THOSE 2 NEW fake frames, and so on. Like a neutron striking an atom of plutonium. 1,000,000,000fps ....... 2 days, 8 hours and 11 minutes input lag.

[@vstrvcvrtv]

In Swahili we have a saying that kinds translates, "good products sell themselves, bad products talk about themselves"

[@tsilikasp]

Same for people

[@moldyshishkabob]

Wise saying Hence why it's important to learn our history and what those who came before us learned. Doesn't matter the amount of money, scumbag marketing has been the same since the dawn of time.

[@ВикторПетров-я1в]

Then u a saying that both of Nvidia or AMD is bad. Graphics cards is bad?

[@rellikai945]

Unfortunately Daniel, AMD ran into the old problem of there just not being enough hours in the day to talk about AI to mention anything about unimportant junk like gpus and upscalers, you know, stuff only peasants care to hear about.

[@seeibe]

Every time they say AI their stock goes up by 0.1% there's a lot of money on the line here

[@UserMum7512]

The extreme geeks

[@Erynash]

The upscaler looks good, but I want to see performance and price more.

[@dqskatt]

Logically, if you're upscaling 1440p quality is as good or better than Native with TAA, shouldn't that be a huge improvement for performance? If Nvidia managed to make 1440p balance or even performance is as good as Native on their DLSS 4, I think that they count that as huge performance increase?

[@kevo300]

​@@dqskattlatency is still a problem

[@Dempig]

@@dqskatt Not even dlss balanced at 4k is anywhere close to native, youre dreaming if you think fsr performance at 1440p will lol

[@dqskatt]

@@kevo300 What are you even talking about, by activating DLSS, You decrease latency by a lot because you spent less time rendering, I didn't talk about DLSS FG. Sure, It might be a little slower than Native with the same FPS, but it still way faster when comparing to not upscale.

[@ZAGAN-OZ]

@@kevo300 This is upscaling not FG

[@1gamerdad287]

It's amazing how great your channel is growing and doing. I watched you when you were at like less than 10k subscribers and this was a very interlaced hobby in your teaching and you'd made videos on your lunch break and stuff. It's amazing to see your hard work paying off and I'm even seeing your videos being referenced on others videos and on Reddit. Way to go!

[@seeibe]

He still talks about quitting YT every other day since it still doesn't pay the bills and he has to juggle a teaching job with YT and having a family

[@1gamerdad287]

@seeibe it's pretty amazing though the growth he's had. He just has exploded which is awesome

[@andersjjensen]

The more AMD hypes the more they belly flop. The more quiet they get the more "dangerous" they are. This is how it's been for the past 30 years I've dealt with them. So yes... it does look like AMD is gunning for a smash hit this time. And honestly, it's probably also their last chance. The fact that Nvidia went "aggressive" (by Nvidia standards) on the 5070 and 5070Ti prices tells me Nvidia is slightly nervous too.

[@Grodstark]

Their last chance? They dominate the CPU market. They won't go anywhere soon.

[@andersjjensen]

@@Grodstark Radeon has been falling off a cliff. According to Bloomberg AMD had less GPU market share (sales, not install base) in Q4 '24 than they had CPU share during the Bulldozer days. They need to start hauling ass unless they want Radeon users to end up being seen like GNU people in the Linux world.

[@DEATHTRUTH]

@@andersjjensen Hopefully they can do with Radeon, what they did with Ryzen. It didn't look like AMD was going to be able to challenge Intel back in 2012-2016 yet here we are.

[@Tracenji]

@@andersjjensen they have the CPU division which is doing well, so there isn't a risk of them going bankrupt at least

[@enmanuel1950]

​@@DEATHTRUTH Difference is Intel thought of itself as too big to fail and slept on their laurels for years. Nvidia might be very greedy but they've been pushing GPU tech year after year. I didn't like the way they marketed this gen but I gotta admit the technology behind Reflex 2 is insane. Being able to deliver 1 ms of input latency in competitive shooters didn't seem possible before. That being said most likely I'll replace my AMD GPU with another AMD GPU when the time comes cause all I care about is raster performance per dollar.

[@tomthomas3499]

Well after Nvidia presentation, there's only 2 possibility regarding RDNA4, it's either they are cooked, or they're actually cooking and have a banger in their lineup, two more weeks and we will find out.

[@Peytonwatson14]

Exactly

[@Distress.]

History suggest they are and will continue to be cooked.

[@fredEVOIX]

if I was AMD I would wait for Nvidia benchmarks for sure as it will allow them to position their cards and pricing better, the 4090 was unbeatable but the 5000 serie seems to rely too much on fake frames the slightest advantage AMD could have on real fps would change things

[@testtest8399]

@@fredEVOIX They always release cards after nVidia. Why do you think they are almost always ~10% cheaper?

[@mleise8292]

Big thanks for putting sources first in the description. Many channels omit them or put them at the end of 2 pages of self promotion, so it is very appreciated. 😇

[@Ziontrainism]

I bet you're an amazing teacher.

[@Movetheproduct]

ty

[@Ark_Strike]

A $500 GPU that's on par with a $1000 GPU would be a great deal ngl

[@thechurchofsupersampling]

Yeah but it's only on any sort of par if u want silly high fps, say 360 to 480 as latency would be alright, maybe 240 as well but latency may be no great

[@tguit-fiddler5692]

My theory is they know that anyone watching their presentation at CES is probably gonna have their ear to the ground regarding their GPUs, the fewer promises made the better. It could work to their advantage to wait til after Nvidia has announced their cards too.

[@merlingt1]

Interesting strategy Cotton, let’s see how it plays out

[@doaks31]

Agree. These days people roast companies for basically saying anything. So less is more. Not like we're going to trust any of their data until the review embargos lift anyway.

[@WaspMedia3D]

@@doaks31 People roast companies for saying something, not saying something, hinting at something, not saying anything ... people are just angry and entitled and lash out no matter what. Welcome to 2025.

[@AndreFreitas91250]

I also think they got confused about the Jensen's claims of 5070=4090 in terms of performance (maybe they had some info about what NVIDIA planned to present prior to most people). After the dust settles they are going to pricing according to the real 5070 performance 😅.

[@headsandtailsheadsandtails4313]

I'm with you on this one,I think AMD have a surprise for us and aren't willing to commit until they see what Nvidia has too show on actually testing when released as that's what I would do and it makes a lot of sense..

[@wow_horac4663]

RedGamingTech had a video today that included a pricing rumor/leack saying 9070 XT from AMD at 479 and AIB models at 549. Who knows if that's true or not but there have been some rumors going back a few months claiming that the goal from AMD was 4080 performance at the 500 dollar price point for this gen. As for the lack of AMD announcements it could be that in addition to not wanting to tip their hand to Nvidia they may have finally fired their Radeon Marketing team and are just going with putting out a press release saying the price and ship date and then letting reviewers talk performance. I mean I can dream right?

[@MarkHallG]

I mean they did sack 1000 employees two months ago, maybe the marketing team will be next 😂

[@erickalvarez6486]

I doubt they will price the same as their competition, 5070 is 550usd. Or perhaps they will, until they run out of 7900GRE and then they'ill price 9070xt lower.

[@Dexion845]

4080 performance at $500? You mean with their version of framegen? I doubt they can get anywhere near close to the 7900XTX costing half and with 16GB of GDDR6

[@smithnwesson990]

If it really is 4080 level performance for 479 that's damn good value.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

dreaming the same dream haha,everything is pointing to it being a success and lining up with the rumours so far, 4080 performance ( at least in raster, 4070ti super RT performance is still good )and FSR 4 is actually usable now !! $499 is a good price .....for an AIB model, not keen if they're $549, seems like AMD is shafting the AIB partners by charging so much less for their reference card lol. unless the rumour meant they're below $549 for AIB cards, that would make more sense, dont want to pay more than $500 lol

[@MasterCog999]

Regarding FSR 4 9070 exclusivity I just want to point this out. When AMD first announced Fluid Motion Frames, it was only promised to RX 7000 series GPUs. If I am not mistaken the first preview driver of AFMF also only worked on 7000 cards, but like a week later they released a new preview driver that was working on RX 6000 series cards. Now this isn't a guaruntee that 7000 series GPU's will get FSR 4 but I also feels like this shows that we shouldn't rule it out. Also on the note of the Black Ops 6 performance, after watching your vid I immediately ran the benchmark on 7900XTX plus 5800X3D and 4k max settings, I got an average of 103fps. I was benching on the gamepass version though and I've heard that it might peform better than the Steam version if that's what you tested on.

[@epmanz7979]

FSR4 for only RX9000 series. RX6000 users, RX7000 users are crying. Lmao

[@nikhilnischay3955]

Heyy. This is off topic but can I ask you if you play on 1440p and if you ever thought that you were being CPU bottlenecked with the 5800x3d?

[@Ämyr2006]

@@epmanz7979weirdo

[@PwerRanger01]

@@epmanz7979 what a pos you are. youll get your cracked one day and will deserve it.

[@TheDarthTuxNaade]

This is why I think it would be very stupid for AMD not to, at the very least, roll out FSR 4 on RDNA 3 as well. RDNA 4 can't be such a huge architectural change from RDNA 3 that the AI accelerators on RDNA 3 suddenly can't do matrix calculations needed for CNNs. Especially seeing they scrapped enthusiast level RDNA 4 and are basically using it as a stop gap generation before UDNA. If you go to the RDNA 3 product page, AMD literally said RX 7000 series has "advanced AMD RDNA 3 compute units, with second-generation raytracing accelerators and new AI accelerators to deliver remarkable performance while maximizing graphical fidelity". The same product page even lists the RX 7800 to RX 7900 XTX as having 120 to 192 AI accelerators in their 60 to 96 CUs. Their ROCm and GPUOpen documents and blogs also sell RDNA 3 GPUs (at least the RX 7900 XTX and 7900 XT) as being AI capable. Even Puget Systems' PugetBench, showed the 7900 XTX beating the RTX 4090 in the SHARK algorithm for Stable Diffusion even if it does badly in the Automatic 1111 model implementation with xFormers. This doesn't even go into all the many AI compute posts, tutorials and white papers on GPUOpen and ROCm speaking specifically to the RX 7900 XTX. Nvidia improved DLSS but DLSS 4.0 (minus a few newer features) still works on the RTX 2000 series with their much fewer and older tensor cores.

[@michaelthompson9798]

i would say that AMD FSR isn't ready yet for rollout at this stage that's why they didn't mention it in their keynote at CES. I'd say its at least 2-3 months away from announcement/rollout.

[@MyAtlan]

To me, that seems to be the problem. Hardware is there, but software not yet. So, in order to justify the launch, they opted to wait. Otherwise, just buy a 7900xt

[@DuBstep115]

@@MyAtlan "just buy a 7900xt" its barely better than my current card and it cant get even 100fps 4k on average

[@Findmeout8293]

​@@DuBstep115 then maybe not buy it? Not everyone has upper high end cards man

[@xPhantomxify]

​@@DuBstep115 Let go of gaming in 4K. GPUs wont be able to run new games in 4K soon without DLSS, FG

[@DuBstep115]

@@xPhantomxify been playing for 4 years now, even on 6800xt. Soon as I buy 5080 I will be at 120fps in every game. After you experience 42" oled as your monitor, there ain't going back.

[@shodancat1000]

it was already confirmed (in the Hardware Unboxed video i believe but don't quote me on that) that the FSR 4 "upgrade feature" is the ability to allow FSR 4 in-place of FSR 3.1 (for games that only have 3.1 support built-in)

[@rocksfire4390]

AMD is actually doing the best thing they could do. they didn't talk about it. you can't MESS UP if you never SAY A WORD. you let others talk about it for you. i don't know if that was their plan but it's a good one. you let Nivida do whatever it is they want and then fizzle out as more and more people talk about your product. then you come in for the final punch. now it's AMD, so 99% chance for them to still blunder it. also as a 7900xt owner, it sucks that fsr4 seems to be exclusive to the newest models coming out but i'm not really mad about it. i hope we get it one day but i'm not gonna hold my breath for it.

[@blunderswish7121]

According to the booth attendant it is an FSR4 preview. And it is upscaling from the driver not the game. 1080 to 4k upscale on display. Unsure if it's upscaling application or all output; and if application only is it only ones with a FSR version? Source: Esfand livestreamed in booth. VOD: CES Exhibit Stream Day2 at 1:59:00

[@googleslocik]

The booth guy is just throwing words around, and hes wrong. All temporal upscalers need motion vector and masks access to work, cant be dont from driver side alone, need game support.

[@TheLapari]

​@@googleslocikit's a driver based update for FSR 3.1 titles...

[@gorky_vk]

According to him FSR 3.1 was also "driver option" so I wouldn't give too much into that. Only naming part is probably right.

[@korhanaydemir8366]

He probably meant if a game has FSR 3, the driver can automatically make it FSR4.

[@flatfish-d9o]

Also LSFG 3.0 with unlimited multiplier, greatly increased performance + quality and reduced latency drops tomorrow, it would be great to get your thoughts on it 🙂

[@cajampa]

Agreed. I hope he does it and I assume he will because he showed the past updates I think.

[@endmymiseryyy7908]

Woah that would be sick

[@TheShrike9]

I tried this app but it just doesn't quite work for me. I tried it on silent hill 2 remake but frame gen was really broken like alot of tearing and ghosting even though I was getting 45-50 fps before frame gen

[@gaijinkuri684]

@@TheShrike9 Really depends on the game I find, some games it's amazing and other times it's not.

[@ro6AXE]

Lsfg 3.0 I just used it and x2 and x3 is massively improved so is the latency and less ghosting and no more flickering on the character

[@catbertz]

I'm always astounded by AMD's marketing team and their latest bumbling efforts.

[@kalidesu]

Fire marketing, and give their software division more people and funds.

[@moira4707]

@@kalidesu At this point I'm not sure we'd even see the difference lmao

[@actuallybritish]

The reason for it being called a research project is because its still in development and ensuring it meets their standards before the full-scale launch.

[@NameName-ll2yx]

😂AMD’s standards aren’t much to brag about lately.

[@actuallybritish]

@ They have introduced new standards with FSR 4, allowing us to take advantage of it using only the latest architecture, which helps them push the boundaries. It's similar to how Nvidia has done with their DLSS, by restricting it to their RTX cards to leverage specific capabilities of their latest GPUs.

[@SwedishLatino]

Soon 1mil subs mate.. remember me saying this when we were 1500 subs? lol Great content always, professor

[@reloadingdontshoot1]

My best 7900xtx TS Extreme graphics score is 16756, and best 4080 Super score is 15251. If AMD prices the 9070xt properly, it's gonna be one of the best bang for buck releases this year. Well done

[@ldope3904]

Who cares about synthetic benchmarks. FSR 3 sucks and AMD abandoned us 7900XTX high end users. 7900xtx sucks in raytracing compared to Nvidia cards. You’re way more optimistic than me or simply coping. I cannot wait to sell my 7900xtx now. Hopefully more ppl share your sentiment so I can get the most $ out of it. I should’ve just gone Nvidia. They are the best for a reason and it won’t ever be close unfortunately. I think Intel has more of a chance now that they’ve seen the bottom and are serious now

[@syncmonism]

It's always true that if they price their cards well they'll offer good bang per buck. There are, for the most part, no bad graphics cards, just bad prices.

[@hochhaul]

@@ldope3904 oh well, most games with RT look like sht and not worth the performance hit.

[@Thuner67776]

@@ldope3904I feel so sorry for people like you who were gaslit into buying amd cards just to prove a point. When you buy nvidia you buy not only the card but invest in their R&D and market/game reach as well, which makes them much better value. Just buy Nvidia.

[@catalystguitarguy]

Nice! What cpu are you running with your XTX? I’ll have to check mine when I get a chance

[@PURENT]

14:40 This benchmark I'm guessing is accurate based on that official slide putting 9070 near 7900 XT/GRE, cause Ancient Gameplays got 99 FPS on his 7900 XT benchmark for BO6 on 4k extreme.

[@Thor_Asgard_]

nah 7900xt has about 70fps avg. something is fishy

[@kevinerbs2778]

​@@Thor_Asgard_ RDNA3 lost 30% of its orginal preformance due to hardware causing artifacting along with the drivets. The driver fix removed the artifacting but lost 30% perfromance.

[@PURENT]

@@Thor_Asgard_ There's also an issue with BO6 where the steam version of the game loses like 40-50% of the framerate on both AMD and Nvidia.

[@WayStedYou]

​@@Thor_Asgard_ only when you run in steam like Owen did

[@Livebasura69]

but how many games have fsr 3.1 ????? I saw games released with FSR 2 when FSR 3.1 was already available

[@Lewdiculous]

FFXIV... Why... Ugh, well so we can mod FSR3.1 into games that support DLSS, hopefully something like that also works.

[@Micromation]

Yeah adoption rate is abysmal - reminds me of DLSS during RTX2000 era.

[@haukikannel]

Few…

[@Kheays]

Any game that needs it, will have it. Indie games shouldn’t need upscaling

[@AndrewDeWitt-kc8bc]

fantastic reporting, thank you for all the helpful info you give us.

[@tatomanya1990]

If you understand Spanish look for Michael Quesada interview with Amd they actually confirmed that fs3 will keep evolving didn't give too much detail but fs4 will come someway to older GPU but better implemented in series 9000

[@HZRDfr]

Daniel need to see this fr

[@Proaz15]

So, fsr 3 will be fsr4 but for non graphics card without the machine learning?

[@HZRDfr]

@@Proaz15 in the video he said they will optimize it for the older generation but maybe will come at the cost of frame rates or the quality bcuz of it needs alot of computational performance and thats true , idk really we will see but i think it wont launch on the older cards and they're still have some work to do

[@TheAleksander22]

It's likely not ready yet. There's a world of difference between a tech demo and a working feature.

[@erickalvarez6486]

It's working in R&C which was one of the games that run the worst with FSR3.1. Is not a demo as you can play the game as you want in there.

[@TheAleksander22]

@@erickalvarez6486 its a demonstration of their new tech. Aka a demo ;)

[@jesusbarrera6916]

​@@erickalvarez6486yeah and DLSS 1.0 was a full release and we know hiw that turned out

[@senti2175]

Demo? Are you blind?

[@aflyingcowboy31]

​@@erickalvarez6486it is a demo, which is likely why they are showing it in Ratchet and Clank....

[@DarkFact00]

I'm more interested in raw performance this gen, due to gddr7. Will it be a huge gap between 5070/5070ti and 9070/9070xt?

[@TheTanXS]

gddr7 does make a improvement, however, due to 9070xt has a higher bus width and a relatively fast gddr6 chip, their bandwidth is about the same (at least from what I see in the image)

[@youtubevanced4900]

Imagine the 4D chess of AMD said we are exiting the high end to bait Nvidia into deep gouging. Then they go and release a 5080 equivalent for $500. Would be so funny to see the Nvidia fanboys pearl clutching their thousand dollar purchase.

[@BIGAPEGANGLEADER]

Won't happen, and if it does, it will be much later this (or next) gen

[@kanguruster]

I suspect AMD has decided to make money by investing in Nvidia shares; that seems consistent with all their recent actions.

[@OZEEtube]

Man I hope my 7800 XT will get FSR 4 eventually :/

[@DraganArsenovic1989]

I have a 7900XTX and i hope that too, when AMD say no i really would hate this trick 😡

[@fafferuk5570]

Hopefully FSR 4 is compatible with 7000 series cards.

[@weirdodude1173]

I was guessing that FSR 4 is going to work on all the AMD cards, mostly, but some parts of it probably rely on newer hardware features the older cards don't have. Makes sense to me. Thumbs up.

[@ivanvladimir0435]

If they achieve the performance they want from this upscaler, then DLSS will finally have competition rather than the "underdog vs boss" it has been ever since FSR 1 released

[@joseijosei]

XeSS exists too. It works much better on Intel GPUs and it's pretty close to DLSS in terms of quality because it also uses AI.

[@ivanvladimir0435]

@joseijosei Yeah, it does, it's just that Intel GPU's are used way less than AMD GPU's so the competition aspect of it can't be brought to bear (I hope yet, because I would love to see a more even market share split between the three companies)

[@joseijosei]

@@ivanvladimir0435 That's a good point. It's basically up to AMD to work as a wake up call for Nvidia, but Intel is slowly but surely getting more buyers.

[@VinniS-m2p]

Never gonna happen amd marketshare on gpu worldwide is 10%

[@koonic6205]

The footnote isn't worded strange it just means, FSR4 is in development and will be available for RX 90X0 in future.

[@slickrounder6045]

I said in the last video that Amd likely had a SLEEPER on hand with Rdna 4. Now we have more reliable rumors hinting that its very likely the case.. Oh boy, we may finally have a good Generation this time.

[@JButterZJ]

Very very unlikely its gonna BE better than dlss4 since dlcss 3 still Beats fsr3 and Nvidia is usually more advanced on a technical Level

[@slickrounder6045]

@@JButterZJ Who cares if its better than Dlss 4 or not. They don't need to reach that level (yet). Even if its just as good as Dlss 3 or something that would made be major strides, and have amd right back in the game finally.

[@RX7800XTBenchmarks]

​@@slickrounder6045 exactly. Tired of these "it won't be better than dlss". Nobody but Nvidia users care about these things. Intel users, ps5 pro users, AMD users don't care. As long as we have viable upscaling options then that's all that matters. Everyone should have a good playing experience

[@resresres1]

sorry but FS4 won't even be close to DLSS 4.... at least in the terms in the number of generated frames it can produce. It's just a matter of fact that AMD does not spend nearly as much in the software department as Nvidia.

[@j_a_a]

​@@resresres1 fsr4 doesn't have to because lsfg already does

[@EhNothing]

I agree with the "they're not saying anything because they want to undercut nvidia once nvidia commits to price" theory. The question is will they undercut them enough to win market share or do another "10% lower price for slightly better raster performance" deal like last gen, which wasn't enough

[@Alfactors]

You're talking about it?That's all they wanted

[@halcyonacoustic7366]

So they’re targeting hardcore gaming hardware enthusiasts but not the plebs who walk into micro center and grab nvidia just because it’s the name brand? Terrible strategy. Something on the big ces presentation might actually get press and get reposted to Reddit or wirecutter.

[@Blafard666]

Yeah, but everybody is just confused, in typical AMD fashion the whole thing feels janky and unprepared, it hurts their brand...again.

[@GWT1m0]

​@halcyonacoustic7366 The plebs think a 5070 = 4090. Its over for that market.

[@sandorbence2067]

Looking forward to FSR4. Even FSR 3.1 was a huge improvement, and with a good implementation (like in GoW Ragnarok) it reached that level I'm finally looking for. If FSR 4 can make the quality even better or could help with latency with lower base fps, it will be a killer feature. On the other hand, making it RDNA 4 exclusive wouldn't make sense since both the newly announced Z2/Z2 Extreme and Strix Halo/Strix Point APUs only have RDNA 3.5 and these devices could benefit the most from something like this. It would be really dumb to exclude the current gen handhelds from a feature that benefits mobile gaming a lot.

[@janivainola]

This is the smartest marketing I have seen in a long time. Everyone are talking about FSR 4 and 9070 cards. Well done Amd

[@tourist6290]

I have both the AMD 9070XT and the Nvidia 5070Ti in focus as my next graphics card. As soon as i see benchmarks/tests/reviews/teardowns etc and the prices are out, i'll decide which card to get. Looking forward to the first real comparisons! Thanks for the video.

[@PCrealitys]

The monitor on the right might be just a GPU at 4K with no FSR and the jokes on everyone.

[@robingreen3085]

That crossed my mind too 😂

[@_FieryPhoenix]

Honestly it would be interesting to see what people would think of an “upscaler” that’s really just native but they make the fps counter show a higher number (if they didn’t know ofc)

[@ilbro7874]

Uh, nah the rep called it fsr 4 in some dudes livestream

[@WayStedYou]

Esfand asked and the amd rep straight up said fsr4

[@NoobsAlwaysCry]

Just a suggestion for the BO6 benchmark results. You mentioned in the other video that the game likes allocate more vram if the gpu has more vram. Couldn't you test with a 16GB card (same as the 9070/9070XT), for example the 7900 GRE to see how much vram BO6 uses? If extreme settings use more vram than 11GB in the leaked benchmark, then you could use slightly lower presets to match the 11GB vram usage. I think this would be the closest comparison we can make to the leaked results. Of course it still might vary in the end, because the leaked benchmark is probably still running a not final driver.

[@omkarpatil5922]

0:33 massive ?

[@Caelfro]

Lowwwwwwwwwwee

[@lil_muzi_vert8190]

Did you see the other video? 😭 it does look massively better

[@hooplah7612]

Taaeeeepeerrr

[@loganwagner1685]

Did they ever say anything about a 9080? Or 9080xt? Just curious thanks guys

[@haukikannel]

They did say that no highend gpus this time… Maybe in next generation or generation after this. This is the same as wehn AMD did have 5700XT as a top model competing in middle range.

[@greyorbit]

This looks like a classic AMD went with horse power and nividia went with more software year.

[@kalidesu]

No high end lol, sure sure.

[@Kevin-nx6ob]

I wouldn't be surprised if the 9070 XT trades blows with the 7900 XTX. The leaks while far from verified are already suggesting that. I also saw 3 8 pin power connectors on it, which seems like a lot for a midrange card. 7900 XTX performance with a bit better ray tracing, better upscaling and I will assume better power efficiency sounds good but I would really like this to cost $500. That would make it a 50% price performance improvement on the 7800 XT, which is insane gen on gen but we deserve it after such a small improvement last gen. I'd say it's necessary for AMD to be this drastic to compete with the mind share of Nvidia.

[@haukikannel]

Most version have 2 8 pins… LN2 ready owerkill ones has 3 8 pins… so no. This is not 7900XTX! But it is good 5070 competitor! 5070 and 9070 both seems to be at the level of 4070ti! So it is very tight race this time!

[@iTzNicholas]

AMD gonna drop the ball yet again

[@casweeden]

They gonna price the 9070 dumb, lose a ton of sales to the 5070 and then lower the price in March.

[@jasonvors1922]

​@@casweeden AMD never misses the opportunity to completely fumble over itself

[@hochhaul]

​@@jasonvors1922 Considering how often they have been sabotaged by NV, they get a pass.

[@curties]

@@jasonvors1922 they really cant help themselves when it comes to new releases. either a paper release, no marketing or just super dumb pricing

[@andersjjensen]

This looks a lot more like Zen 3 and RDNA2 prior to launch. The more AMD hypes the more they belly flop. The less they say the better the product is. But we will know soon enough. My money is on full announcement the 15th.

[@kinez8819]

If im not mistaken it says that fsr 4 will only be available on 9070 series does that mean that 9060 will still use fsr 3.1 and that they will come with more vram in compensation

[@CarnivoryHODL]

This’ll be awesome for handheld & future consoles

[@johnny_rook]

In PCPer Podcast 805 at PCPerspective, they alluded to the rumored size of the Navi 48 being ~400mm2. TechPowerUp has an article on this subject, where they say the size is 390mm2, according to David Huang's rough calculations. If true, makes the RX 9070X performance leak much more reasonable. This being said, those mere 64 CUs leave me with a lot of pressings on X

[@PohnnyRico]

make it under 569euros "real end price on the counter" for the aib models here and im sucking it up like a hot soup.

[@360shu]

@daniel owen or is it possible that amd thinks the fsr 4 features can access the features of fsr 4 without getting an official upgrade? and the older generations need an ingame implementation on fsr 4? because the card can manage the features by itself and it works on hardware level and the older generations needs the upgrade cause of software level?

[@CoachTet]

The representative at the booth did confirm that this was a "preview of FSR 4" kzbin.infobGvulWjdv-w?si=Co5A3zvBcQuR_8vM&t=7162

[@SharpAD]

representative also says it does upscaling in the drivers, so it might be available even to the older amd gpu's

[@cavemantero]

January 23: AMD announced they will be releasing the RX 9080XT for $1000 to compete with Nvidia's 5080 line. The previously announced RX 9070XT launch will be 'postponed' and scheduled for release along with the RX 9060 later this year.

[@UM_88-s2c]

They can't, 5070ti and upwards nvidia will have no competition

[@Fezzy976]

it NEEDS to be under $500. Hoping for $449-$479 for the reference model, which would be a freaking amazing deal. Then AIB's have headroom to charge $549-$599 for their huge cooler versions while making a good profit and being right around that 5070 reference price point but this time having a good upscaler, more VRAM, comparable RT performance, a better cooler, less fire hazard connectors, AND being a good 20%+ faster. This way the only thing the 5070 has against the 9070XT would be its 4x FG mode and with only 12GB VRAM good luck with that and RT/PT on top of it and games increasing VRAM requirements. So far on paper the 9070XT should crush the 5070, AMD just HAVE to get aggressive on price.

[@jasonhemphill8525]

Is a $75 to $100 discount enough for people to make the plunge? I'm really not so sure. It's has to priced in such a way to make people feel stupid for even considering getting an Nvidia card. I don't think a 10-20% discount is a substantial enough for that to happen.

[@jessiethedude]

@@jasonhemphill8525you’re right. 9070xt for $420 and the 9070 for $375 would be a better deal

[@enmanuel1950]

​@@jasonhemphill8525I'd definitely pick a 9070 XT at 450 dollars over a 5070 as long as it is around 10% faster. The fact that it's going to have 16GB of VRAM and and the upscaler seems good now is enough of a value proposition for me. But I do share your skepticism that the average GPU buyer might just pay the 100 dollar difference in order to stay on the Nvidia ecosystem.

[@freeisalwaysme]

​@@jasonhemphill8525that's non sense. If amd offers 2 tiers higher performance at the cost of the 5070. Only fools would make excuses to buy Nvidia.

[@Lero_Po]

$500 for borderline 7900XTX performance? Feel like I've heard something similar before...

[@captainthunderbolt7541]

Maybe AMD have multiple release candidates for FSR4, and haven't made up their mind whether to go with something sharp or something a bit softer?

[@colinator6828]

9070 xt for 499 at 4080 super performance and FSR4 i would buy on the spot because it seems like the 5070 is probably not as powerful as a 4080 considering they pumped the numbers up with fake frames i really want to see the real benchmarks before i buy anything though

[@annekedebruyn7797]

I really hope that they keep that fallback feature when your GPU doesn't support something, it just falls back to the old ways of upscaling like in FSR2/3. But yeah, if they can get a 4080 performance out with 24gb of vram and maybe able to do multi frame gen. That would totally bring AMD back for content creators and gamers.

[@DigIntoGaming]

I am really sick of this being called "Ai" it's not really Ai. It's just algorithms. They basically turn on the algorithm and run through the game and then tweak various functions to make it better. The newer dlss 4 transformer model just has more data to utilize to tweak with. There may be some sort of autonomy to it but it's not true artificial intelligence, thank God, because if it was, it would be very scary for all of us.

[@xviii5780]

You can reduce anything to "just a ...". Your own brain is technically a very structured pile of amino acids, doesn't make it any less impressive.

[@Proxy-83]

In this age anything that runs an if else statement might as well be AI to people. It's even more AI to these people if it's automated in anyway shape or form

[@rayder3543]

Maybe with "upgrade" they mean some sort of DirectSR implementation? Maybe it swaps .dll's on the fly? In this case it might have the same anticheat issues as Anti-Lag+ (not Anti-Lag 1 or 2) but at this point why not directly swapping them in the game files? And why limiting it to 9070? (so no 9060 support?) I guess we'll have to wait.

[@KenjiBiH]

i kinda wish that my 7900 xtx could've atleast used fsr 4 (not that it needs it but just to test it) XD

[@nguyendanh8828]

you can, they almost confirm that FSR4 can be port to RX7000, but the software team need more time to deal with it.

[@andersjjensen]

This is AMD. People are still confused about the difference between AMFM and FSR FG.... So lets see what is REALLY happening once AMD actually starts talking.

[@DesFTW_]

If the xtx doesn't get support my next card will not be AMD. The AI cores being completely useless and being stuck on a software upscaler is poor for a $1000 card. Not lost all hope yet, but their silence is deafening. Nvidia does lock software features, but it's known and well communicated and even the rtx 20 series still gets improvements to DLSS

[@nguyendanh8828]

​@@andersjjensen AFMF2: driver base, work with any game. FSR FG: need the game devs to add it in-game, has engine data like motion vectors that make a more accurate "generated" frame. I use both of them in Darktide, my FPS go crazy and also the input-lag

[@desgard]

@@DesFTW_ why did you even buy xtx when it has software upscaler and had one for past 2 years, xtx doesn't have required hardware for AI upscaling

[@Dnserror88]

I love this time (every two years). Speculating, leaks, rumors, etc.

[@Osprey850]

AMD's explanation is that they were ready to reveal RDNA 4 and FSR 4, but were limited to only 45 minutes and decided to not cram it in and leave out a lot of info. Ironically, they felt that devoting only 5-10 minutes to them would send the message that they don't care about gaming, so they removed them from the keynote entirely 🤷‍♂. Their plan is to hold another event in the near future to reveal everything in depth, with the rumor at the moment being that it may happen on Jan 22nd. I'm not defending their decision, just explaining what their reasoning was, or at least what they have publicly claimed that it was. They may've also decided that it wasn't smart to reveal much info, especially pricing, before Nvidia, but I wouldn't expect them to admit to that.

[@andreapalazzi670]

I think they're taking some time to decide how to present themselves against the Nvidia lineup and maybe try and add MFG to FSR4 if it's not already there... and if the end product is good then I don't mind waiting another week for a presentation.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

FSR4 looks great!

[@HdhfjdRjrjr]

It took them only 6 years

[@TheMissingDislikeButton]

Will be mad if they don't apply it on 7000 series

[@HdhfjdRjrjr]

@@TheMissingDislikeButton Of course I will not

[@HdhfjdRjrjr]

@@TheMissingDislikeButton All previous AMD cards don't have AI ​​cores required for the new fsr4.

[@stevenwest1494]

I don't think it was even playable. I saw other channels in front of it, and they didn't touch the mouse to move the character to see how it looked to play. This all seems really weird from AMD

[@abenormal3070]

you can clearly see that Q on the slide is very different in normal text and under "Available". it was initially 01 2025.

[@retalaonteany7899]

FSR 4 is locked to RX 9070 series and higher, While DLSS 4 is for all RTX cards

[@retalaonteany7899]

Big oof AMD, big oof

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

It's not, dlss4 new feature is only available on rtx 5k while dlss 4 coming to old cards is already the features they supported

[@haukikannel]

??? DLLS4 only for Nvidia 50 series. FSR4 only for 90xx series at least on the release… What I expect is that you get AI upgrades in 9000 series and non AI version for older models in AMD side. Similar than Intel solution where the AI model is faster and looks better than the non AI one.

[@Argoon1981]

Not all DLSS features, are for all RTX GPU's.

[@hamzakhalil-gs7oc]

Dlss 4 super resolution is available for every rtx gpu, All the new features showcased in CES except for MFG are available for 4000 series aswell, MFG however is only for 5000 series. Kinda win win situation for all rtx users

[@rushiltyagi8473]

I hope they release fsr 4 but also countinue to make fsr 3.1 better for older gpus

[@Andres92246]

I think it is a really good move from AMD to wait, people is realizing about the trick of "4090 performance" for the 5070, so when that happens AMD is gonna come out and say "Hey, this is our product, decent performance (you can also use fake frames), improved features and better priced"

[@DuBstep115]

It was a horrible move, they already lost. No matter what they put out. Even if they make 7900xtx card for 399 they still lose

[@jpurd123]

I’m wondering about fsr 4 when it comes to the Z2 chips in the upcoming gen of pc handhelds. I cant imagine AMD would leave out the new handhelds they’re making chips for and only offer fsr 4 for the 9070 series cards

[@Stirlingsays]

AMD: 'Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes at Nvidea, don't look around my eyes, look at these numbers, you're under'.....Now buy our cards.

[@CoCo.-_-]

I just remembered the little Britain episode with the dude that hypnotised people lol

[@Stirlingsays]

@@CoCo.-_- Yep, it's a play on that.

[@asfiraihan2073]

I hope final driver increases more performance

[@Mugenz0]

I wonder if issues that fsr3.1 has has some relation to availability on broad range of videocards. And current improvements exactly because of 90 series

[@Levi-san69]

what i hate about upscaling is newer hardware shouldnt need it and older hardware should get it to enhance its longevity. But they gotta make that dough i guess

[@03chrisv]

You don't need any upscailing if you're playing a rasterized only game. My 4070 can literally run just about any game at native 4k 60 on max settings if RT is turned off. The issue is most people don't understand how utterly soul crushing it is for GPUs to run ray tracing or path tracing. It's literally simulating millions upon millions of photons of light traveling and bouncing through an environment every second in order to light a scene in a realistic manner. It's VERY taxing. To put it into perspective, computer scientists from 20 years ago thought it would be impossible to ever do real time ray tracing, and in fact without DLSS and AI tech, it still would be very impractical and not playable even with a RTX 5090.

[@SyndicatesFollower]

I'm really hoping to see an efficiency-focused cut down 12gb N48 card in the sub 200w range, would help a lot in the truly small sub 10L systems category, something Nvidia has abandoned entirely.

[@brando3342]

NOT A SINGLE A.I. UPSCALING VERSION SHOULD BE PROMOTED. PERIOD. END OF STORY. STOP ALL OF IT FROM BEING THE CRUTCH THEY ARE USING IT FOR.

[@Bnk337]

You mean the direction the industry is going because it’s where the performance can be gained at this point? Y’all simple minded people I can’t take. Ever stop and realize that we have reached the limit of rasterization without making the gpus bigger and bigger to the point where they would be larger than a pc case? Seriously use a little common sense before you speak you’re embarrassing yourself. I swear we have a bunch of Amish out here In the comments hating on advancement

[@po1odo1o]

​@@Bnk337It's fast approaching a point where if they didn't tell you it was there, you wouldn't know.

[@brando3342]

@@Bnk337 Shut up, and eat the slop they feed you.

[@brando3342]

@@Bnk337 That's not what is happening. You just keep slurping up the slop they feed you out of the trough, and we will continue advocating for a 4 course meal. Advancement is not relegated to A.I., gimme a break.

[@leftylou4693]

​@@Bnk337 We reached the limit of rasterization or more like Dev's are lazy and using AI to do less and make more money with less effort? Btw which is what he is talking about in his comment, the gaming side of this, how long ago they sell us on ray tracing and many yrs later they are still hyping it up to sell us today's hardware with the promise of tomorrows tech which today's hardware won't be able to run. Starfield comes to mind as a recent example, of being lazy, remember the: "“It’s running great. It is a next-gen PC game, we really do push the technology, so you may need to upgrade your PC for this game", but funny enough an update or 2 after that comment from Todd, the game got optimized and almost doubled the performance. So just remember, when you point the finger at someone, you have at least 3 pointing back at you, so make sure YOU don't embarrass yourself and look stupid by not really reading and understanding what the person meant inj the comment. Which ironically only simple minded people won't understand it as it is: upscaling tech by AI is making Dev's lazy and publishers richer by producing/releasing unoptimized unfinished garbage now days. Btw use common sense why you arguing here? is not like your opinion will change anything, but I guess you wanted to sound cool and all techie.

[@Noted1337]

On nvidia site there is slide that states while using DLSS performance + MFG 15 of 16 (94%) pixels are AI generated, I am not surprised AMD didn't want to talk much about GPUs during keynote

[@J.Wick.]

The DF video showed the mystery gpu inside the demo pc, but only the underside. One of the stickers said 'XTX' on it. I'm not sure if that was from the PC running FSR3.1 or the one running FSR4. I'm hoping that all, or most of this applies to the 7000 series atleast. Either way, they need to hurry up lol and announce something, my return window on my Black Friday 7800XT is running out at Amazon at the end of month lol. WE NEED TO KNOW AMD! :)

[@apokalip6]

cambiala ya y hazte con una 5070ti, el tiempo se acaba....

[@UncannySense]

Just return the 7800XT it's going to get a price cut soon

[@jasonvors1922]

Amd forgets that it's own 7000 series of gpus have ai cores and will purposely make fsr4 9000 series exclusive for no actual reason, Amds gpu division is ran so poorly it is a real shocker it still even exists though the only reason why it is still floating instead of completely sinking is ps5 sales and Xbox sales definitely not PC.

[@desgard]

return it already, 7000 series don't have specialized Ai cores for such use

[@notwhatitwasbefore]

they have and I think are using XTX to donate 'top' model internally so it could just be that. Maybe its navi 44 xtx meaning the 9070xt retail name potentially. I was flicking through techpowerups list of old GPUs the other day and saw xtx somewhere as an internal designation somewhere around the TeraScale era I think and there was the old x1900xtx. I'd think its just the top sku anyway. My 7900xt amazon return date is getting close too but I'm happy with the card so unless the 9070xt is mega good and cheaper Ill be happy enough with it till the next lot of cards, its like ~900 points less than that timespy score. If we get details on feb 1st and its faster than xtx and 450 I will be a little pissed though

[@Domestos72hodin]

First line of the video: "I dont understand what AMD is doing at CES" I liked the video

[@bullymaguire243]

FSR 4 being only exclusive to the RDNA 4 cards is extremely disapointing

[@briananeuraysem3321]

Honestly expected though at this point

[@pravnav]

From a business standpoint it makes sense though. If they made it available for everyone what’s the point in buying the new cards?

[@lolpl0000]

not their fault. previous rdna cards LACK the physical silicon to be able to do this. you need AI cores. its that simple.

[@keanu3260]

why do ppl keep spreading this lie? its just coming to those cards first.

[@azraelfaust487]

if it wasn't exclusive to RDNA 4 then everybody would just buy the XTX

[@johnrehak]

Where do they take these Numbers from? My RTX4080 super has 15 102 in Time Spy Extreme.

[@cebuanostud]

AMD sandbagging. 9070xt amazing

[@thelmaviaduct]

My thoughts, do I buy a 5090 native or 9070XT upscaled for 4k DCS at 120fps??? How shitty is upscaling Vs native?

[@spongSyt]

1 view in 24s :/ cmon guys Daniel Owns deserves better

[@Dempig]

Its an AMD video not many people care about AMD

[@nt78stonewobble]

Speculation is always fun, but I always wait for the benchmarks and comparisons, which don't cost me anything. :)

[@HdhfjdRjrjr]

Yeeahh! They made it! They made it 6 years after Nvidia.

[@pravnav]

You realise nvidia’s upscaling was trash too until a few years ago. I owned an rtx card back then too and it looked absolutely awful and it was just a gimmick

[@CoCo.-_-]

​@@pravnavit's not just a "few" years ago tho, it's coming to 5 years, dlss 2.0 has been a thing since 2020...

[@kurok1tenshi]

lmao, acting as if DLSS1 and 2 were good xD both 1st and 2nd gen looked like shit, even the FSR3 and DLss3 look mid, looks like t´s finally starting to make sense now with fsr4/DLSS4.

[@pravnav]

@@CoCo.-_- dlss was useless until dlss 3 (rtx 4000), in the few games that supported dlss 2 it looked absolutely awful, looked super blurry and artefacty but in dlss 3 was when the ai thing really got big and also made huge leaps and actually started being good

[@HdhfjdRjrjr]

@@kurok1tenshi dlss2 was pretty good. Infact dlss3 just dlss 2 with frame gen.

[@old_newbie9498]

Its just business strategy. They were waiting for Nvidia to make their Blackwell announcements, tech, and get their prices and relative performance...so they can come up with a counter plan, messaging, and how to position themselves. Just wait for Computex (where they also make their major gaming announcements).

[@baizu6936]

The whole marketing team needs to be fired and their degrees taken away

[@Some0ne001]

Or they are brilliant holding off and letting us all focus on Nvidia and their dumb claim that the “5070 is a 4090” shenanigans. Then once people see the dumb frame gen stuff of Nvidia AMD will show off their cards at a cheaper price, More RAM, with just as good performance and not needing frame gen. I think there’s a reason why they held off because they want to steal the fire from Nvidia after CES.

[@baizu6936]

@ yeah, no failing to generate hype and creating confusion around product lines and then being forced to drop prices because lack of initial consumer interest doesn’t scream genius to me, but hey they can continue to undermine themselves and not show off what is good about them. Their stock price reflects the poor job they have been doing outside of engineering.

[@otapic]

Only thing i wish is they kept it available for older AMD GPUs

[@TheGameBench]

It seriously feels like they've just given up.

[@Takeme_DCUO]

Hey,,,,ty for the vid Daniel. Will AMD release an XTX version of this card at some point or was that option cancelled at some point???? Tia.