Next Gen Bosch eBikes at Eurobike 2022

As many of you may know, we work exclusively with Bosch eBikes. Bosch is a reliable company that has been around for decades and has continued to show up for their customers with service and new innovations. We’re going to be covering some of this year’s new innovations including their new ABS system and Smart System additions.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Bosch eBikes at Eurobike
0:30 New Bosch eBike accessories
0:45 Bosch eBike ABS system
1:20 Generation one ABS
1:35 How does the Bosch ABS system work?
4:05 Different types of ABS systems
5:00 Bosch Smart System top tube controller
6:25 Bosch Smart System motors
6:50 Bosch connectivity
7:30 Introducing Bosch tracking and security
9:00 Bosch Smart System Flow App walkthrough
11:50 New Bosch Smart System Intuvia Display
12:30 Bosch Smart Phone Grip
12:45 Bosch Smart System configuration options
13:30 Bosch eBike sample configuration
14:45 Bosch eBike Smart System battery options
17:30 Bosch Smart System alarm system
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[@Propelbikes]

Thanks for watching! To learn more about bikes with this technology, check out the links in the description.

[@d-entrecasteaux]

Love the way your eyes lit up talking about bike security. New York, New York. I think Bosch motors are probably the best and Bosch is a solid choice but here is my experience. As for Bosch support. This was my experience about a year ago in Germany. Bosch motor replacement is only guaranteed up to 10 years. This may have changed? My 2015 Bosch Performance Line motor gen.2 had bearing wear caused by water ingress which made it really noisy. The motor section was like new but considered out of warranty due to its age. Water ingress is actually a design fault that hopefully Bosch has addressed in their later models. Anyway, from my experience in Germany, every bike store out of the 5 or 6 I asked in Wiesbaden, would not work on a Bosch motor. Most are not trained by Bosch to do any work on the motor. They are only allowed to use the Bosch diagnostic software and install a new motor. Essentially, the bike mechanics were only prepared to unbolt the motor (three nuts) and ship it to Bosch who replace it with an equivalent new motor. Cost was estimated at about 1,000 Euros. My motor at the time was only 6 years old with only 7,000 kms. Luckily, I found an enthusiast expert (with relevant career credentials) who can be found online as “ebike-doktor”. He offers a simple youtube video showing you how to take a motor off the bike. (If it's out of warranty why not right?) So I did this, I shipped it to him and he replaced the bearings and attached specially designed seals to help prevent water from getting to the bearings. I was slightly out of my comfort zone. I seriously believe that no one should have to do this on a 3,000 Euro 6 year old bike just to avoid the $1,000 replacement cost. bike-doktor also sells new motors. Cost of my model was 250 Euros. This guy works 24/7 repairing Bosch motors. I had the fortune of talking to him on the phone and he's a lovely guy who's very passionate about helping people get their Bosch motors serviced at a reasonable price. I've since moved the the US and I'm glad I brought with me the new motor and a refurbished motor as a spare. I love my bike and its life shouldn't end because of poor motor support. I would now be very careful about buying Bosch again…. unless of course I was to find someone here in the States who also did repairs.

[@danstenis660]

You hit it on the nail. Theft is the number one reason that deters people from using their expensive e-bike or bicycle when they won't be with the bicycle. So that trip to do errands would have to be done with a car instead of the e-bike or bicycle. While a e--bike or bicycle can be environmental saver for short trips, people are not utilizing it because of the theft problem. If a bicycle cannot be operable without user specific unlocking, most people would definitely use their bicycle more for errands and save the environment.

[@Freestyler913]

a card RFID system or anything like would be much more easy than locking through phone . It must also come from the governements , to make like safe bike parkings

[@danstenis660]

@@Freestyler913 With unlocking by phone, there is a chance that it would come with GPS tracking also. With RFID, would it be trackable by GPS? Waiting for the government to do anything major would be a lifetime of waiting. Also it is more convenient to be able to park the bike anywhere instead of at specific government lockup sites.

[@Freestyler913]

@@danstenis660 here in France we have a small company that start to build small parking around the train stations, I exist only few of them but it can be the solution for some people

[@danstenis660]

@@Freestyler913 That is great to have some kind of option when there is none, but it sucks to have to pay to lock one's bicycle. Our socioeconomic system is really flawed. People should not have to steal to survive. We shouldn't have to worry about theft with everything we own. We fight each other to survive instead of working together.

[@Freestyler913]

@@danstenis660 Yeah, unfortunatly some people survive/make business by stealing instead of getting proper job. Its all about education, which takes alot of time. So yeah the best security its Triple U lock for now. Cant do better

[@JonathanFrederickson]

A lot of this stuff sounds great, but I worry about e-bikes having so many proprietary parts, especially when they need to be actively supported by the manufacturer to keep working. Whether you trust Bosch to continue supporting the product or not, it would be better if you didn’t have to because there was a thriving marketplace of third-party replacement parts. Likewise, software support over the long term has been an issue in other sectors, and I suspect it’ll be an issue here as well. You can buy a 30-year-old bike and ride it just fine after a bit of tuneup, but buy a 10-year-old IoT device and there’s a good chance it doesn’t work at all anymore unless it’s been sufficiently reverse-engineered. I wish manufacturers would document their communications protocols so that the community can keep their devices alive even once the manufacturer decides it’s no longer worth the effort. That goes for “smart” devices of all kinds, e-bikes included.

[@emmajean719]

That's why we need an open source bike movement

[@d-entrecasteaux]

Totally agree. Hopefully 3rd party support and open source parts will become common place especially as the initial investment is so much higher than a regular bike which effectively has an unlimited life. I’m actually not a fan of too much unserviceable gadgetry because if it stops working it ends up in the trash.

[@georgecarlinn6288]

There are many videos where you can fit an motor and build or buy own battery pack with controller (3 modes slow to max) no software needed with easy to order parts just some.bit knowledge and time needed

[@magnusskallagrimsson6707]

ABS is definitely welcome, and I know families here in Victoria and Vancouver who will be happy to see ABS for their front loaders - but for me, increased security features is the most welcome. Vancouver has seen a decrease in bike theft, courtesy of 529 Garage, but Victoria has definitely seen an increase, and a very organized increase in some cases. What Bosh is doing is very responsible, hope to see similar developments from Brose and Shimano.

[@davidtaysom3592]

I think the latest technology is amazing although it's not for me but my concerns are that Bosch are not making all these not backwards compatible particularly with batteries it sounds like planned obsolescence

[@75ajw]

Agreed, but it seems that Bosch are coming at this from an ‘automotive spec’ angle with everything integrated. You probably wouldn’t buy a car and then ask if ABS can be installed later.

[@philipbyrne3037]

Loved the audio when you guys shook hands. It shows your relationship and how hard you work for the industry! I wish I’d had ABS. I would saved myself a lot of skin and bruises.👍🏽

[@robjackson4597]

Excellent update on Bosch! Thanks Chris.

[@Vardraq]

Again, great video. I would have wished you'd asked whether the ABS can retrofit. I did not went for getting the ABS gen1 on my bike, but with this much smaller form factor… I now would like to have it. Also, regarding the smart system, do you know whether it can be retrofit into an existing bike with like the Bosh Performance line CX? I know the battery has for some reason a new plug, but is it in theory possible without much work to just swap it all? He said mounting points are different, but how much? Lastly: for some reason your videos are always super low volume. Would be great if you could check the loudness of your videos 😉

[@truls4643]

The new smart system looks promising. The alarm solution alone is making me almost regret getting the Load 60 last year. I get that they can't make the new system backwards compatible, but i hope they have some nice updates in the works for those of us who bought the last gen Nyon or Kiox displays. I hope they don't go the Garmin route and purposely exclude new functions on last gen devises.

[@canadianlady777]

Fabulous video...Love to know the new products you feature here and your other videos...

[@d-entrecasteaux]

As for Bosch motor support. I believe the warranty is only 2 years. R+M frames have a 2 year warranty with the option of 5 years. Bosch claim to carry spare replacement motors for up to 10 years. This has probably been covered by Chris in other videos. Sorry if I missed it. My local bike shop here in DC claims to be one of the few Bosch certified mechanics in the U.S. Propel is obviously certified as well. As a Bosch certified mechanic, they are only allowed to run software diagnostics on the motor and battery and if need be uninstall and or install a new motor. This is also the case in Europe. To me this isn't really good enough. If I go ahead and purchase a $10,000 + R&M bike, why is the motor only supported for 2 years? And by supported, I mean the motor would not be serviced or repaired but instead replaced. The mechanic at my local bike shop said Shimano are training him to do more comprehensive repairs while Bosch go with the replacement model.

[@bostonvair]

The ABS is an interesting idea. During one of my first several rides on my e-bike,I had to make an emergency stop on an urban bike path. I wasn't used to the responsiveness of my bike's hydraulic disk brake and did the over-the-handlebar break dance maneuver to the ground.

[@myopenmind527]

Great to see how Bosch are constantly striving to improve. 👍

[@ryankennard6626]

I use the Lock feature with the Kiox on the current Cargo Line Speed based system. I love the security of knowing that the “key” to my eCargo bike motor is in my pocket. I would love the alarm and notification features. I think this will reduce some concerns regarding bike theft.

[@maxnewts]

4:48 This is actually really very true, as I always like to say, “the easiest way to ‘go fast’ is by slowing down, especially around corners where a tighter turning radius might help you get out of the corner quickly”.

[@shreygrover6013]

When it comes to these things, I get very excited.... ebikes are the best things you can get, you can take it anywhere you like and most of them can fit into your cars or trucks depending on weight of the bicycle.... I am so looking forward to new changes in the ebikes next year. Though I am already carrying an ebike with me but I would like to go for an upgrade one....

[@kingkal81]

Making eBikes Great Again! This will help make eBikes true car replacements for local trips.

[@garyharty1902]

Bosch is amazing. Thanks, Chris.

[@pt020]

My 7 years old Riese&Miller Tinker (Bosch system) got this week an update.

[@DimitriTheSaint]

good video. For me the old intuvia is just perfect, I don't need more when riding my bike. something I did not see in the video, is the new intuvia also removable like the old one ?

[@senseforsale]

Thank you so much for sharing this information. It would have been so challenging to learn this otherwise. I'm especially excited by the ABS, accelerometer with notification for security, and the GPS tracker. Those are huge as the threat of getting one's bike stolen is a huge deterrence for many folks. And the fact that the GPS is charged by the bike's battery is so critical for giving more time for tracking (add-on devices now typically have a very limited battery). I'm not a big fan of their navigation on their display right now. Those who look at the Nylon display compared to the Google Maps experience know what I mean. It just feels clunky and inconsistent as you go along the route, default routes seem weird, and it's harder than it should be to customize your route. When you're going quickly on an e-bike, you need that navigation accurate and at the ready. It's just not there right now.

[@jameshenry6855]

Glad to see the ABS has gotten a lot smaller. I've gone over the handle bars a few times when I started cycling years ago. This explosion in Ebikes has led to really quick innovation.

[@francisgarofalo3434]

Chris, Are there any plans to retrofit onto existing ebikes ?

[@SolarizeYourLife]

Great for the front wheel, the back wheel you can use the hub motor to slow the wheel...

[@abbaby555]

It's amazing to see where this ebike technology is heading 👍👍

[@quantumfx2677]

Wait until the new batteries come out which will create a wave of ebikes hitting the market like never before.

[@johnfstockland]

@@quantumfx2677 Do you mean solid state batteries? What will they allow that can’t be done at the moment (just curious)?

[@pedalptown]

Thanks for this update. Great to see that ABS may be available in NA at some point. Do you expect more Smart System on bikes like Gazelle’s or will it be exclusively on $5k+ bikes like R&M & UA?

[@sc00zy]

I have the new KTM Macina Style 730 with CX smart motor and must say everything works just fine, phonegrip is perfect also bike lock works great !

[@DilipBanerjee]

Exciting improvements that I am looking forward to seeing in North America soon! I wonder if the remote lock and ABS could be combined to lock the wheels until unlocked by the owner?

[@xmateinc]

I just upgraded to the new Nyon. Cool piece of tech.

[@tunit567]

@propelbikes, any word on whether Bosch has plans to release updated high speed motors that are belt drive compatible?

[@alafenetre81]

Is the new Smart System 75Nm Performance Line motor (not the CX one) less noisy than the former 65Nm Performance Line? Thank you.

[@75ajw]

Great to see these tech improvements. I'm guessing that with Bosch's automotive brake background, ABS is not the sort of thing you'd retrofit on a car, and therefore not the sort of thing you could retrofit on a bike unless it was somehow factory-installed. Out of curiosity, do you know which bike brand(s) Bosch partnered with to create their demonstration bikes for display? I saw a Cube logo on one of the bikes in their promotional film, but I suspect they must connect with a few German manufacturers.

[@kevinwhited984]

Great episode and I’m looking forward to all the technological advancements for the cycling. Anti-theft and ABS are excellent improvements & I can’t wait till the manufacturers perfect regen braking.

[@babybirdhome]

The biggest problem with regen braking is that there just really isn’t any benefit to it on an e-bike. At best, it recaptures only about 30% of the energy spent getting you going, and with an e-bike, the amount of energy to stop you, there’s virtually no benefit at all. The energy levels are simply not high enough for it to be worthwhile with all the complications and extra weight and expense that it would incur for proper battery management, thermal management, etc. Especially not with a mid-drive motor where there’s no way to drive the motor from the wheels without you pedaling, or without completely redesigning the drive train to allow reverse power delivery from the wheel to the motor at the crank.

[@Cejpat]

Chris, How much do you charge to add ABS to a Riese & Müller Load 60 cargo-bike?

[@marbike7803]

The lock mode looked like a great feature- although it seemed to take quite a long time to activate!

[@babybirdhome]

That’s to enable it. Once it’s enabled, it turns on and off automatically when you turn the bike on and off or remove or reattach the display. I upgraded my Trek Rail 7 to the latest Nyon display and I have the lock mode stuff available and use it for my bike. It works great, although mine being not this latest generation, I don’t have the cellular notifications or GPS tracking that they were talking about here. But it does lock out the motor and battery which protects me a bit from theft (as long as the thief knows that the bike is completely useless to them if they steal it, which most thieves won’t know for a while).

[@67amigo]

Can't wait untill I can order my new Koga E wts with all the good Bosch stuff and the Rohloff 14 e

[@joserego9210]

Wow, is self driving available?

[@misterwizz5690]

WoW, all this new technology looks very nice and I dare say expensive! What about bike security (tracking) in the EU and UK, is it a standard feature and what are the limitations? How water resistant (IP rating) are the new BOSCH systems?

[@user-ps5wn5ry3r]

ABS 2.0 is just great. Btw, nothing was said about the NYON display. Will it be "carried over" in the new smart system? Hopefully so, as in my opinion it would not be so "smart" to have navigation just on the smartphone hub ...

[@cargo_roam]

Is the abs gonna potentially be retrofitted???

[@guymalpass9618]

Would loved expected prices for a lot of this stuff mentioned.... :)

[@fordan42]

Would have been great to hear when they expect to bring the alarm system to the US. With ABS and the new batteries you're stuck waiting until ebike makers incorporate it into their designs but the alarm if I understand correctly is retrofittable to existing Bosch Smart System bikes.

[@babybirdhome]

You can already add it in the U.S. I have this system on my 2022 Trek Rail 7 after upgrading it to the latest Nyon display unit. I can’t remember if it was an add-on through the app or if that part was built into it, but if it was an add-on, it was only like $5-10 to purchase it through the app. The only thing you won’t get without the system they’re showing here is the cellular notifications and GPS tracking, because the system I have doesn’t have any of those features. But it does have the alarm and motor/battery lockout system that disables the Bosch systems without the registered head unit attached to the bike. And yes, you can get that system unlocked if you lose the head unit on a ride because it fell off and got lost or something, but only through an authorized dealer, which is going to check the registered owner before unlocking the system to pair it with a new head unit.

[@Paul_VanGo]

Ok connectivity. Nice. But, what if you don't have (and don't want) any Apple products?

[@SwiftySanders]

What is that white bike? 🤩 It’s gorgeous!!! I want one. I saw the Antonia and Hanna and Oscar and even the non electric bikes look freaking amazing!!! 🤩All of their bikes are built around belt drives. I think that’s a great direction to go in especially for a city commuter bike.

[@capwkidd]

What brands of bikes did they have at the show (I know they where hiding the brands, but it appears Chris you know the brands :))? Anti-lock breaks sounds interesting… as a young BMX’er back in the 80’s, locking your front tire was a desirable thing for certain stunts, but I can see a reason for having antilock now!

[@tedbellWRV]

Glad to see the new Intuvia display with basic info displayed in a highly legible format. My Bosch wishlist: 1) better low cadence pedal assist; 2; connectivity (including Ant+) to other devices (Wahoo Elemnt, Garmin, etc); 3) more torque to support larger riders/heavier loads.

[@jellybeansi]

That battery indicator is really far down on the bike. Not sure I'd want to look all the way down there to check the battery when I'm cycling.

[@justininfrance]

Chris, I know you are partnered with Bosch, and they do great work, but can you say whether that partnership means you are not able to discuss other manufacturers such as Yamaha or Shimano? I find it strange that so many ebikes and component companies never get reviewed or hardly mentioned?

[@richardharker2775]

The problem with other manufacturers is the lack of support. They are quick to sell the bike but when things go bad you will be waiting and waiting and waiting. Bosch have publicly stated a 7 year support on all models and also bearing and seal service kits are available if you need them. Where I live there is also a Bosch service centre. Try and find a Yamaha or Shimano ebike service centre near you. This is why some dealers are becoming Bosch only.

[@robcherry6734]

The smartphone cradle looks a lot more sturdy than the current non Flow model (using COBI app), I’ve had mine for a year and have had four replacement phone mounts under warranty so far.

[@robcherry6734]

Hi, that sounds good, but I don’t do Telegram.

[@emmajean719]

How the data collected while riding will be managed ? Is there some privacy protections or Bosch is just gonna sell all that data to anyone they want to without any way for the customers to opt out of data collection and sharing ? I dont want my bike to become a privacy nightmare like my phone has.

[@nmon9402]

Technology is amazing but 1 of the greenest forms of transport is now becoming a Co2 admitter

[@XKS_]

Basically everything that VanMoof already had except the ABS.

[@norgtube]

All those mega complex systems add so little value. What most people want after the novelty wears off IME is ONLY quick access to assist levels, and fast on/off. Bosch could make things *SO* much harder for thieves by having a GUID on main components (controller, battery, motor), locking them to each other, and enable remote bricking.

[@mgiraudjr]

Best comment here. This would be not too hard to do.

[@buddy1155]

It is great to have GPS tracking integrated in the motor, especially if by removing the 'gps' you make the entire e-bike part of the bike useless.

[@makstym]

some issues with the sound quality of this video. quiet conversation, but some music, and notice from people around. It will be great to clear a sound in future videos from the Eurobike show

[@mikekearsley2407]

"If you can break faster, you can go faster" YEAH!!!! How about a throttle like the cheap chinese e bikes? I have some really steep hiles where i live. And with a heart condition sometimes i just don't feel like i want to pedal up a steep hill. Good vid, Thanks from Seattle.

[@xmateinc]

Bosch makes motors so it still feels like you’re riding a bike. None of the throttled bikes feel natural. I hope bosch never does a throttle. Plus a throttle needs a very high watt motor to get you up a steep hill.

[@sfomann]

The theft and security is one main and only reason that I have not yet bought any of these expensive ebikes. Living in San Francisco, I have personally witnessed ebikes getting stolen right in front of my eyes with many people watching and no one calling the cops. They come very quickly have cordless rotary or cutting devices and within a few mins they are gone with your bike!

[@james-p]

I have mixed feelings about all this, particularly with ABS braking. eBikes are starting to become like motorcycles and then cars (with concurrent price increases). And more things to break. It's all very interesting, but I don't know - do I really want to deal with maintaining and repairing all that extra stuff? How long will the bike last before it's obsolete and can't be repaired at all?

[@Flapdr01]

The more of this I see the less I want an ebike. i'd spend money on a quality product but I'd at least want compatibility with a wide range of non proprietary batteries. Or a cheap way to strip all that stuff off and turn it into a regular bicycle.

[@michaelherron4306]

Strange that Bosch didn’t develop the smart system with e-shift.

[@Propelbikes]

It's coming for sure, but it's not developed yet. Lots of things to come though which is exciting!

[@chrislj2890]

ABS? Jeez, I'm so slow a rear coaster brake is overkill. 😉

[@garyharty1902]

😀

[@dandydon6049]

Show us some affordable bikes. I’m sure these bikes are state of the art but well beyond the average bikers budget.

[@minniesaab7255]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@kenmont09]

Your videos of late are all VERY quiet, all other youtube videos are fine on all out devices, yours are barely audible no matter what we watch on. Which is a shame as we love your videos, can you dial up the levels a bit please?

[@nirrti7]

That bike is nice and all but the seat looks like it would hurt with my big bottom riding it. And I know the bike is eye watering expensive so why not a motorcycle for the same price?

[@dougjackson8059]

why do you call them euro bikes i was in amsterdam in may and ebikes are banned

[@tehehe5929]

Would be cool to get this stuff in normal bikes as well, because ebikes are too expensive. What I mean is gps, preintegrated cadence, power monitoring with apple health and health connect integration.

[@BadhopRUS]

Lots of wires and mounts look like aftermarket and not properly integrated with a bike.

[@fenceman53]

Call me stupid but do we really need abs on a 20 mph ebike? They stop 🛑 quick as it is

[@nuberodesign]

The UI on the tube has never been looked at by a UI professional. That might at best work as a backup. And Bluetooth to communicate between important components on a moving vehicle? That must be one of the worst ideas I’ve seen in tech in recent years…

[@hylkewesterhuis9667]

Over-engineer&pric-ed unaffordable i/t present&future world&outlook! :_[ hYlkeW

[@deancade9682]

Why is Bosch trying to be Apple as Apples Watch does it all with its own Apple Fitness App and better. If you don’t look ahead where you are riding you’ll come off as the last thing you should do is look at screens fitted to handle bars Extra weight added is the worst thing you can do to a e-bike and ABS is extra weight as well extra servicing costs. Keep e-bikes simple for owners. I said it before Apples AirTags work.

[@michaelblumfield3933]

I can imagine the constant annoyance of people intentionally bumping these expensive ebikes while their owners are having dinner in pricey NY restaurants. Pretty soon, the alarms will be ignored by their owners and the bikes kicked over by irate neighbors.

[@bierslord6200]

bikes going more exprensive :(

[@norgtube]

All the connected stuff is 100% privacy exposure for no benefit.

[@jasonsilla4188]

first 🤷‍♂️

[@jameshenry6855]

I'm so proud of you

[@chrislj2890]

Email your address to Propel so they know where to send the trophy.

[@user-qg7mn8tb7o]

熱く語ってるけど意味不明。ただ俺もe-bike特にMTBには興味あるし欧州はすごい！。日本はあんまり盛り上がってないな。

[@Jd-Mco-jfk]

Not backwards compatible. Boooo

[@link2442]

Too many unnecessary bells and whistles, it's not a car keep it simple let's not get too crazy with it

[@mamadjun]

ABS is yet another (expensive and unnecessary) device on your e-bike which is bound to go wrong at some point with your local bike shops not having a clue how to put it right. The best they'd probably be able to do is to replace it and the old one to be chucked away. Not good for your pocket or the environment. I haven't needed ABS on my (tuned) e-bike for all the ten years of I've been riding e-bikes or all the five decades, I've ridden bikes.

[@gravelyc10]

Opinion only. You have no data to support your statement aside your personal experience.

[@jacquesblaque7728]

Even if it's not needed 99.9% of the time, that .1% can get you in deep doo doo, or decorated with road-rash. ER visits don't come cheap either. A known unknown.

[@mamadjun]

@@jacquesblaque7728 Here in the UK, ER visits are free of charge and you’d feel cheated, having paid loads of taxes over the years, not to use it from time to time. I still say, ABS is an unnecessary and expensive gimmick.

[@mamadjun]

@@gravelyc10 Neither has Bosch the data to prove ABS on a bicycle has any real benefits. Of course, we are all entitled to our own opinions.

[@gravelyc10]

@@mamadjun again no facts to back up your statement about Bosch not having data. Bosh would not go to the expense of creating an ABS without extensive research. Of course, your welcome to give your opinions.

[@zedi924]

Yea ABS when you doing maximum 25mph. Great seller for idiots 👏. GPS?? Vodaphone curve 2.99 a month works better . 22.16 video in a few lines

[@Kevin_geekgineering]

these are only distraction for what really cyclist needs : a good bike infrastructure not another cash grab for industry, ABS won't help you when a car hits you. it's only a false feeling of security like helmet.

[@Propelbikes]

I agree that infrastructure is critical and you see me advocating for it, but I would argue that ABS is a worthwhile technology. I know many crashes which could have been prevented with it.

[@peterwong1778]

My bike have a GPS tracker and it was stolen from my home.I call the police and give them the GPS information so they can tracking it in live.The police in front of the thieves house,But the UK police is stupid,the just say they don't have Authorize go inside the house,they are not 100% sure in that house,may be next door. so they can't do anything. after 1 month,the gps run out battery.I loss my 9700£ rise and miller e-bike!

[@felipemendes8337]

still not able to ride it in the rain is gonna be a perpetual ending line for electric bikes