NEXT GEN VARJO XR-4 IS HERE! THE NEW KING OF CLARITY?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Join the waiting list to be the first to know when the XR-4 will be available to consumers HERE: varjo.com/company-news/xr-4-waitlist/

[@mariorossi9300]

As a XTAL3 user I'm curious to see if the rumors are true, meaning the Varjo XR4 beating the Xtal in every aspect while costing half the price (so supposedly $7,500).

[@bobeyes3284]

All depends if its another 2 grand headset or not. Also if it uses Steam Lighthouses I won't be impressed.

[@mariorossi9300]

@@bobeyes3284 not sure if trolling, but unless spending a fortune on an Optitrack system, 4 Lighthouse 2.0 basestations are the ABSOLUTE BEST for home use, infinitely better and more accurate than the Quest3/Pro obclusion prone markerless inside out tracking.

[@RobertDodge]

NOPE

[@mariorossi9300]

Replying to myself after browsing the website, so apparently it is indeed better than the XTAL3, however the price is the same in the end (for the secured edition with SteamVR tracking), so I guess my employer will have to order me one now.

[@HugeShells]

This just in! As part of the launch, Varjo is also introducing the ”kidneys for VR” program.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

😂

[@miken3170]

Well…. You only need one to survive! 😉

[@jango71]

⁠​⁠@@VRFlightSimGuy Those are prices without taxes I assume? And to have it play with MSFS you need to shell 1k$ more for SteamVR compatibility? EDIT: Read “to have it play with SteamVR-only games you need to shell 1k$ more for SteamVR compatibility?” That does not shock anybody ?

[@therealcyril]

​@@jango71Why would you need SteamVR compatibility ? MSFS has native support for OpenXR.

[@jango71]

@@therealcyril I have rephrased my sentence, it is obvious that the 1000 EUR DLC did not surprise anyone, only me. It reminds me of the Mac Pro caster wheels.

[@EbonySeraphim]

I wouldn’t cover a €4000 headset like a consumer headset on this channel. I’m blessed to be a software engineer with no kids or partner so if I wanted to splurge on this, I could. However, even the Aero and Crystal are already stretching and serious considerations for my wallet if necessary - worth considering as a price of entry for serious DCS avionics usage (clarity needed when doing A/G primarily). But this price is high enough you should be qualifying it in a way that lets people dream of it, but not feel left out. “No subscription” is not a sale. Access was restricted about €2500 ago.

[@simracingjunky9679]

Looking forward to your hands on for this one. I hope we get a consumer version in time for 5090's.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

The 4k€ version is the consumer version, i dont think there is any other reason for them to sell a stripped down version of their headset.

[@simracingjunky9679]

@@Nobody-Nowhere They mentioned a few months back that the Aero wasn't going to be their last consumer headset but maybe your right. Personally right now I think this is a waste for consumers anyways because modern pc's can't even push the full resolution with max settings in much lower res headsets in most sims.

[@docslappy8946]

Lots to be excited about even if the price is too much for me at the moment. It won't matter to some, but I'm very happy they've moved to inside out tracking. It will be interesting to see what spec PC it will need.

[@douglasingram8881]

Down side is, it’s £4K + VAT and another 1K if you want steam vr capability. That’s a serious chunk of change.

[@dtrjones]

I'm so glad I did the cautious option of getting the cheaper Quest 3. Had I gone all in on a Crystal or Aero, I would have HAD to have sold them and bought this instead! 😂As it is, the intention was all along to buy a dedicated PCVR simming headset when the time was right, and I think that time might be now! 😆Thanks Steve, can't wait to see what you think..., and I bet you can't either! 🤣

[@SpatialGuy77]

Not waiting to see the Reality 12K? It will be way cheaper and have features directly aimed at simmers and gamers. The res should be higher and the face and hand recognition should be cool. The XR-4 is incredible, but it’s more pro-sumer and corporate, rather than consumers like us, and the features are aimed at that market. Anyways, not trying to talk you out of it, I think it’s awesomely awesome. But I’m still waiting for his reviews on the Pimax before I jump. My 8KX will do until then. Cheers, Michael 🇦🇺

[@dtrjones]

Thanks Michael, that's a fair comment! To be honest I was being a bt flippant about buying this headset. I'm not sure I want to spend that much money., but I am on the looking for a high-end PCVR headset, I'm just not entirely sure the right one is available just yet. 👍

[@GibsonCRG]

Great to see you quoted on the Varjo site! Hope that relationship will allow you to dabble in getting "true" mixed reality going. That's my dream: to be able to use my physical cockpit and controls whilst seeing the rest of the world in VR. It's coming for sure - just not sure if it's actually entering the prosumer space yet. Would LOVE to hear what it takes to get it going when you're able!

[@paulmann8675]

If hp could make a reverb g2 with pancake lenses I would be happy tbh

[@jellowiggler]

And native SteamVR, not WMR. and not the old crappy visible light, battery sucking MS controllers.

[@docslappy8946]

Yep, agreed. It wouldn't cost them too much to develop, so could be competitively priced too. Shame it won't happen😢.

[@madigorfkgoogle9349]

@@jellowiggler I agree with paulmann, and there is no need for controllers at all, I dont use them so it could be even cheaper and expensive controllers as separate option, no big deal. Dont see the need for native SteamVR, Im fine with WMR (except MS discontinued it, so HP probably would go for SteamVR anyway).

[@sephiroth4543]

Needs to have oled panel

[@Snack.Dragon]

Pancake lenses have its issues, not perfect, large sweet spot but mura layer existing in bright environment, full dome aspheric lenses will be the next king.

[@poolhallshark]

Thanks, Steve! This looks very exciting indeed. A sneak peek into the future is what I'm thinking. Varjo leads the way and the rest will follow. But MAN! If I had 4k lying around it would have been mighty tempting to give it a go. Your videos on it will have to suffice I think. I'm looking VERY much forward to those, that's for sure! Thanks for all the great work you do ♥♥♥♥♥

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou my friend :)

[@airsheep]

Pancake lenses, inside out tracking, dp cable, reduced price around ~600€ . Instant buy to replace my Reverb.

[@MCP2002]

Thatd be nice but it's never going to happen. Crystal is $1400+. No reason to beat Pimax by that amount for market share. Technically speaking, all they need to do is improve on what the Crystal offers. If they end up offering what you're looking for I'm 1st in line! LOL

[@airsheep]

@@MCP2002 whai I expect is just a Quest 3 with dp cable. Really that expensive? Crystal is way way overpriced with unnecessary features. And Aero too.

[@MCP2002]

@@airsheep Ohh...I thought you were expecting them to keep the same resolution.

[@bobeyes3284]

You pretty much summed up my thoughts airsheep. Tracking and price are the reason most of us don't have a Varjo already. I doubt they'll ever consider us bottom feeders with a 600 euro device but somewhere in between the stupid expensive and G2 price would open it up for lots not having to spend another 300 euros on tracking would help. I along with a few mates have had nothing but problems with Pimax over the years. I wouldn't even consider the Crystal knowing what I do about the company and their tricks.

[@MCP2002]

@@bobeyes3284 That's pretty much where I'm at. I just can't see myself buying a Pimax.

[@tasercs]

My fear is reliabilty when you get into the price realms of a decent second hand car. My Reverb G2 has failed outside of warranty (along with MANY others it seems) and I have heard that Varjo are not brilliant with their aftercare either. They are going to have to put up a 5 year warranty at least at this price point, otherwise if it were to fail after a year and you used it an hour every single day, it would equate to £11 GBP/hour!!!

[@PASquared]

All the excitement got deflated like a balloon upon seeing the price. Bloody hell.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Still nice to see where technology is going though. Cheers for watching

[@thegood9]

FINALLY, inside out tracking! That was THE feature I was waiting for here!!!

[@bobr8766]

Steve, Varjo’s price reveal just caused 1000 more Crystal orders, and 2000 more Quest 3 orders, and caused an out of stock issue with the G2…lol!! Love you vids man!

[@William_99640]

the price is a complete joke

[@PocketProjects]

Great reveal Steve! The XR4 and MR simming is the future - let’s hope they can shrink it down into a prosumer unit like the Aero. . . Btw nice to see you taking a pleasure flight around good old Leeds Bradford Airport 😎✈️

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers mate 😊

[@julianhall2008]

I was wondering how long it would be before the Aero was superseded especially with the recent reductions in price, hopefully there will be the option of some sort of mixed reality and pass through cameras that you can see your peripherals if required.

[@GYGOtv]

Looking forward to your thoughts Steve, I know we can trust your opinion!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Means a lot buddy 😊

[@strikkflypilot927]

Yea. This is what the Beat Sabre crowd needs😂

[@alexb6225]

Will absolutely be exciting to see more on this headset, it feels like we might now be starting to see the next generation (or at least the next evolution) of headset in the market which can only be a good thing. Not only does it potentially start to push what is achievable in terms of quality, immersion and all the things we want from vr in flight sim. But actually a secondary benefit means theres more choice, that means mid and high end headsets of today may become even more affordable as Varjo's consumer competitors are forced to up their game and work towards thier next offering. Overall I think this is absolutely great news for vr and for flight sim!

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Not much you can actually do, it has higher resolution.. but can you run a higher resolution? Even with foveated rendering you can barely run a Crystal with 8.3Mp while the XR4 has 14Mp.

[@EndersVRcade]

Thank you for sharing this info!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You are so welcome!

[@VRGamingTherapy]

I was excited until the prices. No gamer is going to pay that for a VR headset. I know these are enterprise HMD's, not meant for consumers, but damn. Way too expensive. Valve save us!!

[@UkDave3856]

No gamer you say? 🤔(checks bank balance)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

The flight sim genre will ;)

[@MajinBULK]

The xr4 or beyond I can afford

[@paulbaxendale8774]

Uh oh... need a 5090 next...

[@bigbangerz5856]

over a year away apparently

[@raptorman0]

Well I was excited but 3900 euro is way beyond my price point. Still on the fence about the Aero or the bigscreen beyond.

[@bigcrackrock]

I got my Beyond the other day, and while I don't regret getting it, it is a difficult recommend. When everything is just right it's the most lifelike I've seen anything in VR, but the glare, and tiny sweet spot is a very real thing. I was hoping the glare would be a here and there annoyance but it's frequently apparent to some degree. I really think they should have sacrificed some weight or whatever they had to do for a self adjustable IPD because not knowing if you'd benefit from a slightly different one without having to send stuff through the mail kind of sucks too.

[@douglasingram8881]

Very excited about this new headset, but most importantly has it got motion compensation built into the software. ? This is very crucial for ultra high end VR hardware.

[@airsheep]

Well, this isn't the product Reverb users have been waiting. It seems no one is willing to create a decent hmd around ~7-800 € for the simmer community. I admit this is a new king with a top price tag, but not for replace the Reverb. Im still waiting.

[@jango71]

Wait for Valve Deckard or Quest Pro 2. Those will get 99% of the XR4 at 40% of the price, with better software (look at the controllers of the XR 4 and compare them with the Quest 3’s).

[@KevinBeaumont]

I’m a Varjo Aero owner who just purchased a Pimax Crystal in the Black Friday sale, d’oh.

[@lorsch.]

good decision 😄 probably

[@agordon20024]

One complaint I had with my Varjo Aero experience was that the headset was difficult to put on or remove because the head strap didn't pivot the face piece up like the Reverb G2. Appears they no longer have the battery hanging off the back.

[@einfussganger]

The Aero is more cumbersome to don and doff than the G2, for sure, especially with the earbuds. There is, however, no battery on the back - perhaps you're thinking of the Pimax Crystal?

[@agordon20024]

@@einfussganger You are correct. TY

[@michaelpickford7298]

Gee here I was hoping you were going to announce a consumer headsets that more could afford and grow the VR market but instead we get something that will be a niche within a niche.

[@Verociity]

At these prices even an XR4 aero will probably be very uncompetitive.

[@quantumac]

Yikes! In 2018, I bought an entire high-end gaming tower, including a widescreen gaming monitor, for the price of the XR-4 and I'm still using it. I've since bought a Valve Index. I'm currently looking into some other headsets, but at that price, the XR-4 won't be on my list. It's not that I couldn't afford it, mind you. I could, but _I want value for my money._

[@misoswan1087]

I am maximally satisfied with my vario aero I don't need a higher resolution - I will change only if there will be a vr with fov 150 and the same resolution or better

[@TheAgent4125]

I hope it resolves the distortion around the edges that the aero has

[@UkDave3856]

I don’t really care for pass through as I only use my HMD for flight simming, so I’d prefer a next gen Aero. That being said though, I trust Varjo as my Aero has been a dream to use, so I’ll probably be putting my name down for one. My motion rig can wait another year

[@Gola60]

Exciting news indeed. But that pricetag.... Will definitely check out your review, though!

[@lynjones5564]

Just bought the Aero at half price a few weeks ago (Steve please make an updated settings video for all us new users) so, in a couple of years, I’ll be ready to upgrade - at half price, that is😊

[@edwincgmail4069]

Same here, i'll wait for a couple of years...cost a lot of money.

[@adrianpreston]

Fantastic, but what sort of card/pc are you going to need to drive it?

[@DiesOnAToilet]

So pancake lenses have a large sweet spot, but do aspheric lenses also have a larger sweet spot than Fresnel lenses? (like the Quest 2 has) The single biggest annoyance with the Quest 2 for me is how small the sweet spot is, and feeling like I need to have it in precisely the right spot on my face to achieve maximum image quality.

[@fsxspen]

Pancake lenses have edge to edge clarity, aspheric lenses do have a larger sweet spot over fresnel, but there is still a sweet spot you must maneuver into.

[@Tom--Ace]

My guess is a vr4 - same basic design as vr3, with sharper context displays, micro oled and wider fov, while retaining sharp inner displays Unlikely to be useful to consumers given the very limited support for the inner displays in any software. However, potentially an aero 2 may come later utilising the higher res context micro oled displays I am guessing the context displays will be similar in resolution to apples headset.

[@JJ_Khailha]

For me, VR is there when this headset is powered by a 5090 playing Assetto Corsa CSP. Happy days!

[@seattime4075]

Looks impressive and around the price of the new Apple headset. Unfortunately both are not within my budget.

[@SamHeine]

Progress continues. What kind of video card will this need for 4K x 2 @ 90 hz?

[@TonyDrecaps]

Needs to be much higher FOV. Bigger than Crystal. Higher resolution. Good colors 144hz bare minimum.

[@SETHalpine]

Crystal doesn't have a bigger FOV indeed....I've seen some french test about it, and it was well under the value expected..

[@djp1234]

How long do you think until there's a consumer headset like this on the market? (Something consumers can actually afford)

[@jrgenkauling8269]

which graphics card can draw 2 x 4K? RTX 6090

[@cloudsurfer9238]

As expected with regards to tracking and controllers which has been a "weak" point of the Aero compared to the competition. I am however eagerly awaiting the simmers reviews, both with regards to performance, and the usual.. But i would suspect that we are soon approaching an area where you see "too much" meaning the flaws in the sim, i.e. photogrammetry etc.. But i guess you can always fly higher :) :) Also looking forward to see how the it will display i.e your arm and filter it out to only display that i the sim ( Useful for nerds like me with 1:1 size cockpit while flying in VR) Heres a crazy thought. If you are the lucky owner of a home cockpit, I guess you could use that and just display the the sim where the cockpit windows would be? in theory.. No more giant triple monitors or projectors. :) Exceiting times!

[@jango71]

That is exactly what they were doing in the short videoclip he showed. It is huge and a clear goal of the industry.

[@SpatialGuy77]

That is awesome. I’m interested in the latest VR tech. I hope you keep doing demo’s on it. Do you think PIMAX might have missed the boat being so late with their Reality 12K release? The Reality 12K was going to be the leader of the pack. Hard to beat this one me thinks…

[@SpatialGuy77]

@@adrenalinejunkie3828 🤞

[@communicatescience]

This suggests Varjo don’t rate the readiness of OLED for this type of application, as it wouldn’t be a feature they would skimp on for price. Personally, as an Aero owner, I’m pretty happy getting on with the flying now, and find the sim more limiting than the headset. Nice to see what’s going on though, so thanks. Note to self: no action required.

[@VRSimWizard]

Of course this looks great, and it's a big improvement over the XR-3 line, but the entry level price remains too high for my budget. Will wait for this tech to trickle down to the Aero 2.

[@lurchilurch5507]

There won't be one, no current plans

[@VRSimWizard]

I learned long ago,@@lurchilurch5507, "no current plans" in technology is pretty meaningless; things change way too quickly.

[@m0rph3u5.]

@@lurchilurch5507 Do you really think they will be dumb enough to reveal that at the same time so people on the fence wait before they buy this one .. This is *Marketing 101* , others have done it already - *Valve* who despite everyone knowing they are working on the *Deckard/Index2* , still deny it - *Konami* canceled *Silent Hills* and any future plans altogether including any future videogame development plans, and yet out of the blue they announced not only Silent Hill 2 remake but a whole plethora of Silent Hill-related projects.

[@ivaniuk123]

When you get this headset please play DCS at night on either the KA 50, or AH 64 (as dark as it gets level) and tell us if there is any blooming from the instruments. The pimax crystal even with local dimming has blooming that looks like the cocpit is filled with fog.

[@jango71]

The controllers have arcs like before the Quest 3… difficult to compete with a big company like Meta to develop the software needed to remove them.

[@Woopass90]

Lets hope they can solve the red shift and warping that they have on the Aero.

[@bryndaldwyre3099]

My biggest concern here is that Razer is involved. When it comes to VR, they don't have a very good track record. Anyone who might remember from back around 2015-16, they were supplying the OSVR HDK-2 headset but offered no support for it at all. I bought one to replace my Oculus HDK1 and although it had a much better(at the time) resolution(same as the og vive) and 90HZ refresh rate, the drivers being opensource weren't being improved on at all. I had signed into the forum that was setup to it in hopes of getting a fix for the horrible drift issue it had but at the time(at least for a year and a half) nobody was working on a fix for it at all. I even had a go at trying to fix the issue myself, but not being a coder found it very fustrating and in the end just gave up. I eventually got the HTC-Vive which I still have to this day which was a way better investment given it still works perfectly fine, even if the resolution is well behind what other VR systems have to offer. I only hope that Razer don't screw over those who go for the controllers like they did with OSVR HDK-2.

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

Was disappointed to hear them say that they had "No plans" for an Aero 2. 😢

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You and me both 💔

[@William_99640]

this reminds me when the flat panel tvs came out and they were 5k a piece now you goto walmart and buy and 80in for 600 bucks on black friday lol

[@JohnnySarault]

i wonder if it works and looks good in VRchat and other games

[@edwincgmail4069]

I'll wait for a pimax crystal OLED and less than 2K. That is my spot or wait until Aero drops the prices again to half. Thanks for the video.

[@lvx4408]

unrelated to this particular post, but has the U-Shake6 software improved in the 11 months since you first used it?

[@dharkbizkit]

came for the stats, now leaving for the price

[@michaelshostack2547]

Love the little “subscribed” animation in the corner when you say no subscription. What is needed to get to beyond human fov and who is closest to it so far?

[@StillBigWill44]

Curious how the pass through/mixed reality works. I am holding out for VR for DCS because I have the Winwing ufc and mfd panels that I operate using trackir. Would this VR allow for some sort of path through in game so i can see my controls/hand?

[@chrisshurtz5541]

Yes it would.

[@MetalSimVR]

Hello! Thanks for this video. Why isn´t it in 4K?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

My pleasure! I rarely upload in 4K due to my awful internet sorry.

[@MetalSimVR]

@@VRFlightSimGuy O.k., thanks for your quick response...🤘

[@boysen01]

Did the "prosumer" comment 5:10 mean that they will come out with one more headset at some other price point ?

[@jango71]

The prices are without VAT I suppose?

[@dnabb420]

You got a good laugh out of me when you revealed the price.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Do you react that way when you look at expensive sports cars too? Afterall, it's the same deal here ;)

[@dnabb420]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I thought your video was very well done just gutted about the pricing which is somewhere between consumer and enterprise pricing.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@dnabb420 If you look at it this way, the XR-3, which I've shown before, was the best VR headset on the planet, yet it's now more expensive that their new XR-4, which doesn't have a subscription AND is also a huge upgrade over the XR-3.

[@kellymcguire1385]

Almost $4400 for the base model?! An additonal $1100 for SteamVR tracking?!! I already get most of that and some additional functions with the Pimax Crystal for $1400 and the Pimax 12K is coming out soon. I've had the best experience in DCS that I've ever had in 10 years of playing. Passthrough for augmented reality would be cool if I had a fully functional cockpit, but if I get he XR-4 and buy/build a cockpit, I'll be living under a bridge with nowhere to plug it in lol. I'll save that money for an RTX 5090 and the trade-in deal for the Pimax 12K.

[@olliebrown89]

Will you be getting an affiliate link for this? Maybe even a cheeky discount code? Will you be receiving one soon? Many questions, I'm really excited about this headset.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hi Ollie thanks for your interest in supporting the channel. I will be receiving an XR-4 soon for review. However I won't have any discount (at this time), but you can order any Varjo product through my affiliate here: varjo.idevaffiliate.com/104.html Cheers!

[@pumpkineater23]

Very cool. Crazy money though..

[@justaguydoinstuff]

Did I see that it's an additional 1k for Steam compatibility on that chart??

[@metalceesie219]

i hope micro oled,and a wider field off view as the varjo aero and a intergrated mic and maybe headphones ..And around 1000 euro..

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

Hahahaha

[@lorsch.]

nope, not going to happen

[@SETHalpine]

Curved Micro led without lens ....At this level of price....No more LCD panels+lens even with mini led behind.

[@gavancorrigan8813]

What is Steam VR tracking? And why would it cost an extra 1000?

[@evaz9606]

Werent pancake lenses the next big thing? Is glare and god rays that big of a deal?

[@bouzahgaming1016]

Now we just need GPU's which can power VR Headsets like these.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

The lenses are not same, they have 2 element aspheric lens system on the XR4.

[@Brasco_]

Lol, sounded good until the price sheet. I have a dedicated sim rig and there's no way I'd spend this much on a headset.

[@Balthazar030]

Seems that the future is only for the few! Everything climbing price wise and it seems that soon many of us will stay out of the game. In order to have a decent vr experience today you need quite a big amount of money! Everything else from how i see it is just compromise. Instead of using the tech you spend your time trying to gain some fps and at the end never works as it should!

[@toastie1488]

Any ideas what the "SteamVR tracking" for +1000 bucks means?

[@dennyrodman2022]

It mean you need to pay additional 1000$ for the functionality that have any headsets for 250$ lol))

[@Paul-cj5wg]

Buy a XR-4 or a decent 2nd hand car, or wait for the XR-5 to come out and the XR-4 get the same 50% off like the Aero did ? (me XR-4 , Wife Car , me XR-5 as well 😂 )

[@MCP2002]

I just have one question; should I buy the Aero now or wait?

[@mikewright2858]

I just bought an Aero ... I suspect that whatever is new is probably going to be a lot more $$$ than what the Aero is selling for now. I'll wait for the price drop on whatever is "next" and just enjoy the Aero I have. It's pretty awesome.

[@MCP2002]

@@mikewright2858 I'm going to wait and see the announcement. If it's not a new Aero or a greatly reduced in cost XR4, I'll probably grab the Aero as well.

[@davidjames7382]

Probably won't be out for a year or two. Friend of mine ordered a Aero last Friday.

[@heikogehrig]

Can't wait till you get your review model - really looking forward to the review! Considering buying it, but at $4000 USD, this is definitely not a purchase to be made lightly. Nothing beats the visual immersion of VR. Visually, you're getting so close to the real thing, trust me (I've been [airline] flying for over 20 years).

[@lurchilurch5507]

How is it "4k all in", don't they always quote prices without tax? So more like 4800

[@notanfningain]

I have been waiting for the latest Pimax 12k, then this appears...I was saving up for a 4090, and now the 5090 appears...when will the torture cease...

[@mattthacker9120]

Never. LoL

[@fuzzywun]

I watched the whole Varjo presentation. Very impressive, but I am not sure if the base version is actually Mixed Reality or not, and I wonder why the XR3 and VR3 resolution is 70ppd, but this is 'only' 51ppd. Previously VARJO made a big deal of Human Eye resolution. Do you have further knowledge of the matter?

[@mattbackvass]

I am guessing they did tests with military pilots, known to have the highest standards in eyesight, and they settled on 51ppd being where there were not suitable enough gains going from 51ppd up to 70ppd.

[@fuzzywun]

@@mattbackvassNot sure I am on the right track at all. The quoted ppd is for the pass through. and for us mere mortals it is 30ppd. 51ppd passthrough is for the $9000 version. VR ppd is not given so I just assume that it is "plenty" without giving figures they kept saying it is the best possible VR experience. Anyway - I can't afford either!

[@mattbackvass]

@@fuzzywun i would re-watch the part where they describe the new aspheric lenses. They clearly mention that the aspheric lenses are set in such a way that the sweet spot itself is 51ppd. it must broaden out on the edges.

[@fuzzywun]

@@mattbackvass Thanks! I missed that!

[@poochies0316]

120 fov for that price ? Hopefully the next Pimax is 150-170 and good vertical as well

[@theVRpilot]

Let’s gooo! Can’t wait!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

[@brissiAU]

Going to have to be good, a lot more vr headset now compared to 2 yrs ago. If it is then farewell to the trusted hp reverb.

[@SURG3NT]

What is the refresh rate????

[@lvx4408]

FOV major improvement, please. Pretty please

[@melvyns1975]

Off ear speakers like the Reverb g2 pleeeaaassse

[@poolhallshark]

Can't wait for this, Steve. But my Crystal will take some beating 4 sure 😊

[@lorsch.]

I just bought mine last weekend 😂

[@poolhallshark]

Congrats. Great headset, right ? @@lorsch.

[@lorsch.]

@@poolhallshark Thanks, it's still in transit, but I expect so, yes. Looking forward to it.

[@poolhallshark]

What are you running it on ? With enough JUICE it is absolutely BEAUTIFUL. @@lorsch.

[@ryanbarbosa3220]

Yeah I have the crystal as well and it's great I love it.

[@jackr.749]

Unfortunately, when it comes to REAL PCVR HMDs, only the rich may apply! :( Agreed with another commenter, the G2 as a SteamVR HMD with good pancake optics would be a dream but that's not going to happen. So I guess the best us average folks can do for now is the Quest 3 or Pico 4, I miss the days of not having to worry about a damned battery, I really don't mind being tethered to the PC if it means no battery to worry about. Too bad we are all victims of Zuck's vision, a Quest 3 with different guts to be a REAL PCVR HMD (Rift-3?) would be amazing, bring on the tether and a real DP connection without a damned battery! LOL

[@willybilly8187]

Wish it had oled screens.

[@benthecaptain7419]

Love it. Except the price.

[@davew1234]

Hi Seve, MS have announced not only the end, but removal of WMR from windows. Video needed on what this means for us hp reverb g2 owners please!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Currently in Prague checking out the Somnium VR1 but I will post a video about this once I'm back

[@ryanbarbosa3220]

Yeah, even thought i have spent over 10k on hardware for dcs that includes a full virpil flight setup a pimax crystal and a chair that moves with the game. So im not against spending money. However Im in IT and I know to stay away from a product when it first launches. No way this wont be a hot mess when it arives. Also i dont even think a 4090 will be able to give you the performance that a headset like this needs to max eveything out. Hell i upgraded my 2080 to a 4080 just to make sure the pimax crystal had the best of the best, and i can max out all settings

[@rogerfed6240]

ONE thing only..... DP connection PLEASE !!!!!

[@SETHalpine]

No need of a DP Cable with USB3.2 or even USB 4.0 Since Display port 1.2, we certainly have an auxiliary bidirectional channel of 720 Mbit/s allowing the routing of Ethernet and USB 2.0. intended for other optional data..between a multimedia player and a screen for example...but the DP of the graphics cards, it's only mounted as outputs by Nvidia and AMD...Video output and nothing more! ... Strictly speaking, AMD and its 7900, equipped with a USB-type C socket intended for VR, and which therefore has the equipment for... they have the DP2.1, more advanced... which could work if AMD wanted it...But since it's not my part, I'm just guessing. you need appropriate software to use the DP OUT output of the CGs and add a second cable...: USB.. Faced with a late Nvidia, and AMD...which tends to forget VR, then we understand better why, VR device manufacturers choose USB which come out of a motherboard, since with USB 3.2, you have a "DisplayPort 1.4 Alternate Mode" protocol (8K 7680x4320@60Hz or 4K 4096x2160@120Hz...compressed...) + data transfer (videos and data up to 20Gbit/s) + Power Delivery up to 60W. Better than what Nvidia can currently offer... So, we all believe that the DP is great (while it remains compressed, and that it is mature only in 2.0), because most of programs from Meta, Pico,etc,... make the error of just taking into consideration, USB 3.0 (5Gbit/s) to fit the majority of configurations, and restricts performance... whereas in USB3.2 gen2 (videos and data up to 20Gbit /s) you are largely at the level of DP1.4... what can we say about USB4.0 (40Gbit/s) ! Please note that DP and USB in their latest version are not made to exceed 3 m of cable... We then understand that VR manufacturers want to favor wireless

[@legerstee1]

High tech now is normal tech in 5 years! So i'll be ready for it by then! ;-)

[@daryl994]

$5,000?!?! are they out of their god damn minds??

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I don't think people realise how much a bigger deal autofocus is for VR, especially one that can mimic the human eye. That's some serious tech.

[@VNAV_PTH]

One way of going from billionaire to millionaire is to buy an airline. One way of going from doing well to bankrupt is to buy a new XR-4.

[@cpunktspunkt748]

You cannot order it right now as an individual opposite to what is claimed in the beginning of the video, so we have to wait :(

[@prowelddynamics]

Dang 10 grand American for the focal 😮

[@saulstanage]

God I love this channel and I am pretty picky. Thank you.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Wow thankyou ❤️