NFL & NBA MVP ROBBERIES

[@jus_nico]

seeing barry showing actual brady highlights feels so wrong

[@donleonard4446]

There is nothing you can say to convince me Ryan Tannehill is more valuable than Derrick Henry

[@kelamullah1999]

His passing stats were elite so no.

[@johndavis9321]

​@@kelamullah1999but was that cause of tannehill or because the threat of henry forced teams to commit to stopping the run

[@Mostillist]

they made the playoffs with the first seed with henry hurt in 2021 tannehill gets injured in 2022 and they under .500

[@kelamullah1999]

@@Mostillist pretty much my take

[@nathancarey208]

​@Mostillist titans led the league in rushing attempts that season and ranked 6th in points allowed on defense while tannehill threw 21 tds to 14 picks. They also made it further in the playoffs with derrick henry than without him. Edit:titans ranked 25th in pass attempts that season

[@saiya2521]

Barry slandering runningbacks? We are so back

[@evanelliott1213]

Barry Slanders, famous lions running back and KZbin sensation

[@crunchytoast6007]

Thank god a kicker didn’t win MVP or Barry would’ve blown up

[@someperson3883]

OJ was such a killer RB. So sad he did. At least his Nicole Brown’s murderer is no longer on the streets though

[@jamesburgess2k]

​@@crunchytoast6007 look up the 1982 season lol

[@crunchytoast6007]

@@jamesburgess2k thank god Dan Marino only entered the league a year after lol. Would’ve said a rookie Marino was robbed

[@Sheng-Li248]

The disrespect for AP has to stop. That man almost broke the all-time rushing record after coming of an ACL and MCL injury that should've ENDED HIS CAREER.

[@timdecoursey287]

And his QB was CHRISTIAN PONDER

[@supirion1]

Running backs don't matter. Life is unfair

[@dharmab0m]

Comeback player of the year, should've been for sure.

[@dharmab0m]

Manning was coming off literal neck surgeries (5 i think) and took his team to the playoffs. Absolute robbery.

[@Hydro00]

Glad someone said it

[@Theel25]

I still feel like the denying of RB's is really crazy. Modern NFL, yes, it's less needed as they are a lot more rotational. But even 15-20 years ago, a lot of teams couldn't survive without a 1000 yard rusher. Even with a shitty QB, they could do some great things. Saying Manning got Robbed of an MVP by running backs in like 2006 or 2012 is really really wrong. AP carried that sorry ass Vikings squad to a 10-6 record when their best QB was Christian Ponder, that's an unmatched category.

[@jamesburgess2k]

He also came back from a torn ACL injury and ran for fucking 2000 yards the following year, not to mention how he literally dragged that awful Vikings team to the playoffs himself in the final game of that season. There were probably better players in the NFL, but Adrian Peterson absolutely deserved to win that award, especially considering his only argument is that "RBs should never win over QBs".

[@johndavis9321]

Facts while i agree with Barry's opinion on rb's for the most part i think a clear exception is when a rb pretty much single handily carries an otherwise suspect offense to respectability for ap with christian ponder as his qb and defenses loaded up to stop him and still go and put up the numbers he did is easily mvp worthy

[@JoeHardacre]

I feel like Barry's RB opinion is a bit of a gimmick at this point - he can't possibly look at multiple 2000 yard seasons, or Faulk going for 2000+ from scrimmage, and think those players weren't having an impact on their teams.

[@well-well-well-]

Barry keeps going back and forth on whether the MVP is the better player or the most valuable player.

[@imjoker2823]

Future QB Video Ideas -Is Flacco elite? -Is Big Ben a Hall of Famer? -Why Kurt Warner didn’t win more rings? - Nick Foles, the One Hit Wonder

[@vengefulfork7169]

I’d call Nick Foles the three hit wonder

[@RonBurgundy412]

No question that Big Ben’s a hall of famer… come on now 😂

[@BridgeEntertainment2001]

A flacco retrospective would feed families

[@tpvn8377]

​@@RonBurgundy412 if he is then eli manning is

[@mikieroy3177]

⁠​⁠@@tpvn8377Big Ben was way better than Eli😂

[@StarvinLG]

Barry basically could've just said "i think a QB should win the MVP every single year" then got right into NBA

[@Bigedub101]

EXACTLY

[@tonj02]

0:36 Sorry bro, but Jerry rice never won mvp, so Brees is nowhere close to the best nfl player to never win it

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

That would have to be real talk tbh. Good post

[@KingE34]

Drew Brees is prolly the most valuable player to never win mvp, but Jerry rice never won it, no lineman ever has, moss didn’t, no all time defenders except pave and Lawrence, etc.

[@Alex-tc9np]

i hate when mf like you say “no where close” when it is close lmao Brees was elite and arguably top 10 all time at the MOST VALUABLE POSITION

[@gavinmcclister6185]

@@KingE34hey hey, JJ watt won it and hes an all time defender fs. Could have been the all time defender but he didnt have the longevity

[@TC-cx4gm]

@@gavinmcclister6185JJ Watt didn’t win MVP

[@whydoesthischannelexist421]

Brees never getting MVP is a modern tragedy

[@Buttington_Headerson]

pretty dumb. saints got robbed multiple times in the playoffs too. and i’m a bucs fan.

[@someperson3883]

@@Buttington_Headerson2018. 2011 and 2017 a bad defense robbed us from advancing and 2010 and 2019

[@Alex-tx2dh]

He 100% deserves way worse for lying so much about bountygate. Mr. “I would say if there were bounties because I’m a QB and I care about league safety” can’t stop carrying water for the evil saints org and the government.

[@fortynights1513]

The best quarterback to never win an MVP is either Brees or Roger Staubach.

[@someperson3883]

@@fortynights1513 Brees easy

[@mat6522]

peyton over LT in 2006 is the dumbest argument lol, we went 14-2 and he carried the entire offense

[@jimc.goodfellas]

Speaking of trophies, GIVE REGGIE BUSH HIS HEISMAN BACK

[@isambo400]

OJ TOO!

[@MacBreezyy]

Hey Yes Man, I told you to take out the trash!! You need to stop injecting robo marijuanas it’s making you a lackadaisical chump.

[@matthewhyman2208]

@@isambo400dude he’s dead

[@Toadally_Kozmo]

@@matthewhyman2208i know lets ask his ex-wife Nicole Brown

[@someperson3883]

@@matthewhyman2208thankfully Nicole Brown’s killer is too

[@hennyboi516]

Imagine the level of stupid you gotta reach to convince yourself that a 26 PASSING TD season is somehow better and more valuable than a RB who scored 31 total TDs 😂

[@BattleMachineX]

I immediately stopped watching when he said that lmao

[@aaronjackson9385]

Exactly..credibility is non existent.

[@diehardnygiantsfan6569]

I’ve said it a bunch of times before but Barry’s videos prove QBs will win no matter what 🥴 Lamar’s recent season still would’ve won over 2006 LT imo based on the biased coverage of QBs in the last 10 years

[@Nooneagrees]

Bc most of RB tds come from the one yard line

[@broncos435]

@@Nooneagrees LT also had over 2300 total yards that season, so just saying "ah, all he did was just punch it in at the goal line" feels especially lazy lmao

[@funnyguppygaming5743]

Barry doesn't give a frig about the eye test

[@ryanhernandez3946]

bc the “eye test “ is unbelievably biased, for an easy to see example look at how pat mahomes would get G L A Z E D for tough throws no doubt but the announcers to follow and a narrative to be “we’ve never seen a more gifted QB in the league” while people like Arod and drew exist. the eye test is a test in bias not in contribution to a teams overall success

[@bciwanted2]

Calling Peyton Manning more valuable while showing that both Ladanian Tomlinson and Shaun Alexander rushed for the same number of touchdowns for their teams as he threw, 31. And I’m sure they had less fumbles than he had interceptions.

[@beam5655]

Peyton had more combined passing and rushing TDs in 06, with 35, and had double the yardage both seasons. Who would you rather have Alexander or Peyton Fucking Manning?

[@bciwanted2]

@@beam5655 31 touchdowns in 350 touches or 31 touchdowns in 650? I’m just saying, the QB position wasn’t as valuable as you make it out to be until pretty recently. If you think Phillip Rivers was more valuable to the chargers than LT, you might have more CTE than either of them

[@beam5655]

@@bciwanted2 LT was not more valuable to the chargers than Peyton was to the Colts. I'm not talking about Rivers. Peyton had DOUBLE the yardage and more TDs.

[@JoeHardacre]

It's not necessarily comparing one to the other, but thinking of what you could replace them with. Take Shaun Alexander off that Seahawks team, and you could probably get a decent running back (this was the mid 00s, they were everywhere) who puts up 1200 yards and 12 touchdowns. Replacing Peyton Manning with a 'decent' QB is much harder, cause there's generally only 20 reliable QBs in the league at any one time and there's only one or two that can throw for 35 touchdowns and not make lots of mistakes. Most RBs aren't marching you down the field by rushing 12 times in a row. Peyton could pass 12 times in a row and get you a TD. However, saying all of that, record breaking seasons deserve to be rewarded and I have no qualms with either of those players winning over what were pretty standard Manning seasons.

[@Nick-y8t3h]

I think what bronsexuals and casuals don't understand is that Shaq and Gasol actually ruined Kobe's resume. If the rules allowed Kobe to play teams 1 on 5, he would have won a championship every year he was in the NBA and probably have 20 MVPs. He's really the only player whose teammates held him back. His mamba mentality alone really was enough to beat pretty much any opponent.

[@xXMachineGunPhillyXx]

I don’t know about that RB take Barry, OJ had a pretty *HUGE* impact on the NFL in the mid-90’s - and he wasn’t even playing!

[@MAKxRaMpAgEx]

As a Steelers fan, I’m contractually obligated to state that TJ Watt was in fact, robbed of the DPOY

[@ashsherod6321]

Which year?

[@andrewvachon1943]

Can we all acknowledge how beautiful Kareems sky hook is, just perfect.

[@AlucardMM]

It’s still insane to me that Lamar Jackson almost won the unanimous MVP again with the season he had. You can make the argument he deserved the MVP, but in no way, shape or form did he deserved it unanimously. Brock should have gotten some votes at least. Hell CJ Stroud had an argument before he went down.

[@gabrieldodds9081]

What swayed this year's was that when Jackson and Purdy faced off, Lamar went off, and Purdy played like dogshit

[@KW_SPORTZ]

Josh Allen and CMC were 100x more valuable to their team than Lamar was

[@AppleGuy256]

It's the QB of the year award these days unfortunately

[@AlucardMM]

@@gabrieldodds9081 I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to win I’m just saying the fact that he was so close to winning unanimously even though it was a tight race until that game that happened at the end of the year is insane. Also, one week should erase the rest of the entire year. He could win but there was no point where he was 49 to 1 good.

[@sprawlz6466]

@@AppleGuy256not even that. It’s the QB with the best record award

[@1ThielenFan-qm1tk]

The biggest MVP robbery was the 1982 season where kicker Mark Moseley beat out Dan Fouts

[@beam5655]

Yep. Undisputed biggest robbery, nothing comes close.

[@TransNFLGirl]

Exactly. Without the strike, due to YPG, TD, and INT AVG, Fouts would have thrown 5100 YDS, 38 TD, and 22 INT.

[@aaronwin33]

Based on the definition of the NBA MVP it always goes 1) best story 2) best player on best team 3) actual MVP Points deducted for repeat winners, points given for first time winners Based on that media definition, pretty much every MVP deserved the exact MVPs they got

[@Jiffy0]

Bingo! it's the exact same way in the NFL. I'm just surprised most fans haven't realized that these awards have always been based on media narratives

[@aaronwin33]

@@Jiffy0 which is why using MVP's to rank players doesn't mean as much as people think, it's media members voting on storyline/likeability first and foremost. Need to look at every MVP with context

[@RonBurgundy412]

Not even a chance Brees deserved MVP over LT… he did deserve it over Peyton in 09 tho

[@bwennan_5211]

Barry is finally back to nba content

[@YoutoJo56]

Respecting the grind Barry! You may not see this but just know we’re proud of you and your hard work. Theres a reason you have this many subs

[@Liam-zu3yz]

The year elway won MVP he had 19TD to 12INTs. Jerry rice had 23TD in 12 games and over 1000 yards easily the biggest robbery

[@fresherthanyoutrickshots5779]

obviously harden isn’t better than lebron james. literally nobody is except for jordan(maybe idk). but, like cmon, harden obviously deserved mvp that year. he lead the rockets to the first seed in the much stronger(at the time) western conference with 65 wins, while lebron only led the cavs to the 4th seed in the much weaker(at the time) eastern conference with 50 wins. also, harden literally had a higher WS and WS/48.

[@fresherthanyoutrickshots5779]

he was literally, statistically the more value player too lmao

[@ftdaj]

That's what I like about Baseball over the NFL. Outside of Starting Pitchers, which have their own MVP category with other pitchers, no position is generally more important or just a slam dunk for MVP every year. One year it will be a Right Fielder, then a Shortstop, then a Catcher. I like it that way. Everyone has a chance. Obviously some positions get more attention such as Shortstop, but it can still be won by everyone. But tbh, Catcher is the most important. A bad catcher will ruin your defense.

[@JWD1992]

Here's one to debate: Johnny Unitas over Sonny Jurgensen in 1967. Sonny set the NFL passing yards record and led the league with 31 TDs (a lot back then). He also led the league in pass attempts (and completions) while also leading the league in interception rate (when it was harder to avoid picks). He was also second in sack rate (although those pre-1982 sack stats are a bit spotty). Unitas had a better completion percentage and was second in yards, but threw only 20 TDs with the same number of INTs (16). However, Jurgensen went 5-6-1 with a defense that ranked 11th in points allowed, while Unitas went 11-1 with a defense that was 2nd in points allowed. Food for thought.

[@hepwo91222]

you sort of did Magic indirectly when compared to MJ. But Bird would have been an interesting one, he won 3 MVP's but finished 2nd 4 times!

[@GrayGamer]

Heisman robberies: 2018 Tua Tagovailoa. Only lost because he would play half a game, go up by 50 and let backup Qb Jalen Hurts get some playing time.

[@CalebWayneMcCready]

I hate bama with every ounce of my being but Tua 1000000% should have won the Heisman that year.

[@Mornings]

My glorious Lebonbon got robbed of MVP every year since the nba started even before being born

[@ashsherod6321]

I understand hating James Harden, but he won that MVP in 2018 fair and square. I'll give him that one season and that's it. I hope he never wins a ring or gets to the All Star Game ever again, inshallah.

[@thunderhawk358]

Embiid winning over Jokic was highway robbery where tf is that comparison

[@sprawlz6466]

Why does everyone pretend like Embiid didn’t also have an incredible regular season? They were both incredible, the tie breaker was a combination of voter’s fatigue, Kendrick Perkins, and the desire to see Embiid win at least one MVP. Now if MVP was a playoff award, then you might have a point.

[@NathanMoon-tz2jp]

@@sprawlz6466Kendrick Perkins is the reason why Embiid won. Jokic was the clear favorite betting wise until that segment with Perkins came out

[@eden6314]

It wasn’t that much of highway robbery that was actually mad close I’m ngl

[@sprawlz6466]

@@NathanMoon-tz2jp well Embiid also got better as the season went on. His MVP push came a little later. He was the best player in the NBA for the last 2 months of the regular season

[@tajmula671]

@@sprawlz6466jokic averaged a 25 point triple double on 70% ts with every advanced analytic suggesting he was in fact the best player in the league so yea it was highway robbery

[@greyklopstock7155]

Ehhh, idk, Lawrence Taylor was pretty freaking valuable. Dude was good enough to carry the giants to two super bowls. The guy single handedly made sacks a recorded statistic cause he got so many

[@benscott6801]

bro be sounding slow sometimes idk what he be talking about

[@epictorres96]

That's where I also disagreed with him and I'm positive that those 23 interceptions held Marino back from winning MVP

[@zackboston3217]

NFL segment just confirms we need a quarterback award so anyone else can get the mvp

[@SidGambin024]

Barry tbh the bias for LeBron really came out with you saying he deserved it over Derrick Rose. That’s just not accurate, was LeBron better than Rose? Sure that’s not really a debate, but it’s disingenuous to say that LeBron was more “valuable” when I can guarantee you if LeBron and Rose don’t play in 2011, 10 times out of 10 Miami would have the better record over Chicago. Miami won less games and got swept in that regular season vs Chicago solely because of Derrick Rose while he didn’t have any All star teammates compared to LeBron’s 2.

[@taysonjatum2209]

Kobe did not get robbed of 2006 MVP is was Dirk. Dirk led the Mavs to 60 wins being the only all star on the team and led the league in WS, WS/48, OWS, PER, OBPM. Was 2nd BPM. 3rd in VORP.

[@Buttington_Headerson]

Kobe stans are the worst.

[@rjmacready9828]

Respect for dirk but leading kwame brown, smush parker, and luke walton to 47-35 35 ppg And first team all defense >>>>>>>>>>> dirk

[@beam5655]

He's only comparing directly with the MVP winner. They are "could've won" MVPs. Kobe could have won that one, even though Barry thinks Lebron should've. So basically could've vs should've, Barry is talking about could've.

[@adamxo.]

​@eyeconqueror1185 making a argument for our fav player is bad? Just agree to disagree brother

[@fortynights1513]

@@rjmacready9828Was Odom on the 06 team?

[@jeremythomas8569]

They just need to make a Cy Young award for QBs already so they can start giving MVPs to the players who actually are the best players in the league that year not just by default the hottest QB w/the rare RB.

[@bromoment9779]

Barry don’t worry about the harden slander at the end. 2018 Lebron took an actual bottom 4 team and made them a 4 seed. He also led harden in every statistical total that season, points rebounds assists steals and blocks. Lebron was probably robbed of it in that year, yes

[@jenius-9581]

In Hardens year, he was definitely the most valuable player 😂

[@JohnFKennedy313]

Lebron was insane in the playoffs but that rockets team was dominant in the West while the Cavs struggled all year in a bad Eastern Conference

[@gamingsquad2326]

Yah basically he tried his hardest to give lebron more MVPs than Jordan cause he’s a massive lebron fan

[@willsmath]

Harden should've won at least 2 MVPs if not 3

[@woketv781]

4 tbh​@@willsmath 15, 17, 18, and 19

[@fica1137]

​@@willsmathOver Westbrick easily, but Giannis was playing DPOY caliber defense while also being a beast on offense. And 11 FTA is ugly

[@acebizr1827]

I’d love to see this type of video with other awards. Especially DPOY

[@thecrazynodak]

Barry showing actual Tom Brady highlights? He must be very sick, the real McCockiner would never!!

[@collloser5424]

JJ Watt was robbed of an MVP in 2014

[@randomstuff911]

In 2009 Manning didn’t even really play the last 2 games. They were 14-0. He definitely deserved MVP. 8-8 season disqualifies you from MVP.

[@IBangedUrMom69420]

I dunno I think there are exceptions. That 8-8 team legitimately had like a bottom 5 single season defense of all time.

[@corbinhulsewe]

I feel like you could have a 4th category for players who deservedly did not win MVP but were good enough to win it nearly any other year like Brees in 2011.

[@michaelalexander5350]

Brees is so unlucky.

[@TheDogBark27]

People think MVP is about stats, it’s not, it’s about how valuable a player is to their team, Rodgers lead the Packers to a 15-1 record, brees didn’t

[@davidlogan201]

Same some for Savannah. Harden and DRose both deserved those MVPs Harden could arguably have 3 or 4 himself. The Bulls that year were not projected to win as many games at they did and the fact Boozer and I think Noah were injured and still had more wins than the Big 3. If the shoe was on the opposite foot and he was in DRose position you would make that argument 10 times out if 10

[@johndavis9321]

Yup and this is my gripe wit vron fans avout 2011 if the roles were reversed and Bron carried a sorry roster to relevance putting up great numbers while doing so onlt to lose the mvp to another player putting up great stats on a super team bron fans would probably still be complaining till this day hell he mentioned harden in 2018 had KD been given that mvp in 2018 over vron lbj fans woyld have rioted

[@vishtakes]

@@johndavis9321right with that logic LeBron shouldn’t win MVPs for the Heat since they’re a superteam. That’s the whole point of having an overpowered team. It brings the best version out of you bc it makes your job at its easiest. If anything all this shows is why LeBron should’ve had less MVPs than he has now

[@johndavis9321]

@@vishtakes all facts fam

[@imjoker2823]

Brees should have 4 rings from 2009, 2011, 2017 and 2018 and 3 MVPs from 2009, 2011 and 2018 and was robbed because of his defense

[@jemjohnson5315]

As a saints fan mahomes more than deserved the 2018 mvp. 2006 and 2009 were the Brees he was the best qb, I think LT keeps 06 tho. Barry saying manning should have 06 is absolute blasphemy tho, Brees balled that year and was 1st team AP for a reason

[@someperson3883]

As a Saints fan Mahomes deserved it in 2018. The voters love the QB on the team with the best record, so Brees got the most MVP votes that year, but 2009 he should have won, and I would have voted him over Rodgers in 2011. I would have also gave it to him in 2008.

[@markengelmeyer1467]

In no world did Brees deserve MVP in 2018 over Mahomes 😂

[@sportsfanatic123]

​@@julianbell9161 He said "because of the Saints defense" Also that 2011 ring is a Kyle Williams away from not happening

[@someperson3883]

@@sportsfanatic123 I think the Saints would have beat the Giants in a home NFC Championship in 2011, but we lost to the 49ers

[@Neo_Hawk]

Love watching this channel as a Brady/Kobe fan😂

[@radaf4429]

"QB's are more important than running backs" is true but not nearly to the extent that it is now. Many teams pre 2015 made or broke seasons based on the running game.

[@TinyCat1015]

So Manning deserved it over Faulk because Faulk missed 2 games, but Manning also missed 2 games when he shared mvp with McNair but that doesn’t matter?

[@donleonard4446]

The AI mvp being more of a robbery to Shaq than Steve Nash winning an mvp over Shaq has to be one the hottest of hot takes

[@ethanrobinson9475]

i think a lot of people agree with this

[@beam5655]

Nash over Kobe, Lebron, or Dirk is still the biggest robbery ever.

[@beam5655]

@@ianstratton there's been so many MVPs in that should've been unanimous that I honestly don't give a shit about whether they were unanimous or not. Shaq's should've been, but so should've some of Wilt's, Kareem's, Bird's, and Jordan's.

[@exwhyz7990]

Nash completely turned the Suns around from a sub-30 win team into a top Western Conference contender with 60 win seasons, and he was a walking double double on incredible efficiency who would also give you a steal a game. While individual performance is most important, I do still think that team success and impact on winning should factor in for MVP, just less than it actually is. Iverson could score more points than anyone while also stealing the ball more than anyone, but he was also worth 4 turnovers a game and had horrible efficiency on some of the highest usage in NBA history. Both of them were good enough to win MVP, but Shaq was so much more dominant in 2001 than AI than LeBron or Shaq or Kobe were in 2005 over Nash

[@exwhyz7990]

@@beam5655 You can't really say some of Wilt's or Bird's MVPs should have been unanimous. Wilt stuffed the stat sheet greater than anyone else but had a losing playstyle and wasn't liked by teammates or many other people. He could bring a team 50-60 wins but would crumble, and he showed he could never truly bring a team success. Pair that with playing in the same league as the greatest winner in NBA history in Bill Russell and the Laker Wings who made the finals almost every year Elgin and the Logo as well as the Big O always having dominant seasons, and there's no real argument for him to win unanimously. Same for Bird, who definitely deserved his 3 MVPs, but was never by far the most dominant player in the league while Moses, Magic, and MJ were having all-time great seasons. Kareem should've won maybe 3 more MVPs, but definitely should have had 1971 unanimous if the older players weren't so jealous of him. And of course Jordan is either #1 or #2 all time depending on what you believe makes someone greater and deserved a few more MVPs (funnily enough Malone robbed him in 97 and Jordan took the 98 MVP when Malone deserved it a bit more), but there were only 1-2 seasons where MJ really should've won Unanimous. A Unanimous MVP is a mix between an absolutely legendary season that breaks records or absolutely dominates statistically and in terms of wins, and a league slightly weaker or less competitive than other years. MJ had many legendary seasons, but there were always other MVP heavyweights throughout his career such as Magic and Bird, Hakeem, Malone, Barkley, DRob, and Shaq aside from 1992 (Drexler, DRob, and Malone divvied up the other 15 votes) and 1996 (Penny, Hakeem, and Malone took away the last 4 votes)

[@CYMotorsport]

Except lebron never beat Drose a single time that season on a team that won the east with 60+ wins. It’s one of the more weak contrarian takes re: mvp robberies. Eager to hear the nfl ones though haha let’s see if running backs are a sticking point

[@dbzfan4evermj233]

Barry should do top 10 greatest coaches of all time or top 10 greatest teams for football and basketball

[@emoo.182]

Marshall Faulk put up over 2,000 yards and 26 tds a record at the time in JUST 14 games..if you remember back in that time Marshall Faulk was reffered to the best player in the nfl. Marahall Faulk willed the rams to the playoffs that year. In a must win game in new Orleans he put the team on his back with 236 yards and 3 tds. How is that not mvp?

[@someperson3883]

Then they lost to the Saints in the game that actually mattered the next week

[@emoo.182]

@@someperson3883 not his fault tho we all know if hakim didn't fumble the punt return the rams would've went down and scored and win

[@emoo.182]

@@someperson3883 and Peyton Manning didn't do shit in that playoffs either..and isn't MVP a regular season award?

[@mariocardenas1833]

Literally, no one says that kobe was robbed of 5 mvp's. 99% of us agree that he should have 2, maybe 3 if you're pushing it

[@the6thpackbrewbuck]

I feel like you could include 2016 for Rodgers and Brady

[@do_yohomework]

D Rose better no one who slanders him ever mentions the fact he was like 3 years removed from high school and Bron was at his athletic peak

[@taysonjatum2209]

Worst MVP in modern NBA history. LeBron easily deserved it. He wiped the floor with him statistically and even in advanced metrics.

[@solaireofastora922]

​@taysonjatum2209 Stats don't change team success, D Rose may have had worse averages but he brought his team to the 1st seed despite key players being injured, it's called most valuable player, not best player of the year

[@johndavis9321]

​@@taysonjatum2209lebron was also on a super team with a second option who put up stats similar to the mvp winner that year despite all that rose still led his team to 60+ wins and the first seed in the east over miami to make it more clear the man LEBRON JAMES himself when asked acknowledged rose deserved mvp this whole rose 2011 nonsense is one of the biggest non arguments in sports right now

[@awc6007]

I love how bro was trying to be logical and chill for everyone else then for LeBron he just nut himself and went full fanboy Lmao

[@johndavis9321]

It's a shame bro usually has solid takes across all sports even if i don't agree with them all but when it comes to lebron all objectivity and logic goes out the window

[@thechild7355]

Rose deserved his MVP.

[@jacobway468]

Not in my opinion

[@OneGrungDM]

Just remember, anytime Barry mentions Brady, he’s going to hate him. And anytime he mentions Lebron it’s all just praise. So take any takes on these 2 players with loads of salt

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

The word “valuable” is so subjective they I don’t think there’s a common understanding amongst fans who truly deserves the award.

[@xpythagoras4044]

me: he better no bring up nash video: immediately brings up nash

[@davis2k1234]

Of course the last RB to win a MVP was over Brady the media really hated him and he was robbed 2021

[@AvrilAlvarez]

I guess they should just rename the MVP to the MVQB because Barry says only QBs should win it. Smh

[@ruzgar1372]

Barry what year do you think was the best window for Wade to win MVP?

[@theolihot]

Not to be a hater, but the second after you called QB the most important player on the field, you talk about Brees' 5000 yards 08 season in which the Saints ended 8-8.

[@machoboys8884]

Yeah replace him with a decent QB and they go 2-14

[@theolihot]

@@machoboys8884 Ok but isn't that kinda better? They get a potentially better draft pick and the outcome is the same. They don't make the playoffs either way.

[@machoboys8884]

@@theolihot crazy you think losing is better than trying to win

[@JonahCannon-jj9qz]

@@theolihotlol you just proved it yourself

[@JB-vu7ib]

Jj watt getting snubbed in 2014 was a travesty, I still think about it till this day

[@JamesWilliams-xi6un]

Enjoying more nba content keep it up nfl is my game but we all enjoy sports of most types

[@easymoneyrad]

It doesn’t always matter which is the most valuable position. Like are qb the only position allowed to win mvp?

[@K-Dot94]

How is there no argument kareem didn’t deserve some of those mvps when he literally missed the playoffs

[@Hydro00]

I feel like LT with 1800yds 28td is def deserving of his mvp over manning as good as his season was. Won't really mention the AP disrespect cause I'm prolly biased being an OU fan😂 Still enjoy the content tho, keep it coming

[@CarmeloAnthonyLover]

If we're being honest, LeBron should have a minimum of 7 MVPs and maybe even 8 or 9 MVPs. He should've won in 2006, 2011 and 2018 for sure and then he's got an incredibly strong case for both 2014 and 2020.

[@UmHmm328]

Only 1 MVP for Shaq? Didn't know that.

[@DenniDownBad]

Barry you've convinced me on a lot of things, but in no universe will you convince me that Derrick Rose didn't deserve the MVP over LeBron James in the 2010-2011 NBA Season.

[@shubtakesdubs5395]

Rose literally won more games without 2 hall of famers on his squad and 2 starters in Boozer and Noah both missing significant games. There isn’t an argument for Lebron it’s literally just lunacy.

[@taysonjatum2209]

@@shubtakesdubs5395 Dude that team was good because of their defense. In fact those years he was injured the Bulls still managed to be a top 5 team in the east. When LeBron left the Heat missed the playoffs.

[@johndavis9321]

Factst this man rose dragged a team with his two best big men hurt for most of the season and his best player being luol deng to 60+ wins and the number one seed in the west and this is my thing with bron fans he is sayin all this about rose's season but we all know if the roles were reversed and they gave the mvp to rose even tho he played on a stacked team while vron carried a trash roster to relevance the argument would be completely different for example if kd got mvp or lebron in 2018 levron fans would have rioted

[@johndavis9321]

​@@taysonjatum2209while yes those bulls were always good defensively they were only elite and seen as contenders when rose was the engine to the offense the bulls staying competitive after rose's injuries is really more a testament to the east being weak and the emergence of joachim noah and jimmy vutler more than anything also once bro. Left the heat they had to deal with a bunch of injuries if bosh and wade are healthy that heat team is a playoff team in the east

[@exwhyz7990]

Rose definitely had an MVP-worthy season, but he just so happened to be playing during Prime LeBron's reign of terror over the league. 2011 LeBron averaged 27/8/7 with 2.2 stocks on 51/33/76 or 59 TS% while leading the league in PER for the 4th straight time with 27.3, BPM for the 4th straight time with 8.1, VORP for the 6th straight time with 7.8, as well as leading the NBA in Offensive Win Shares, Total Win Shares, and Win Shares/48 for the 3rd consecutive season and being 3rd in Defensive Win Shares. He was 2nd in points and ppg, 12th in assists and apg, top 10 in steals and spg, 20th in TS%, 16th in Defensive rating, led the league in FG made despite not being top 5 in FG attempts, and was 4th in 2pt FGs despite not even being top 10 in 2pt FG attempts. 2011 Rose averaged 25/4/8 with 1.6 stocks on 45/33/86 or 55 TS% while being 9th in PER, 3rd in BPM, tied with LeBron for the most Offensive BPM, and 2nd in VORP. He was 5th in Win Shares, 6th in Offensive and 8th in Defensive Win Shares, and 10th in Win Shares/48. Rose was also 3rd in FG attempts while being 2nd in FG misses, and also 2nd in Usage (all behind Kobe lol). Rose had a MVP-contending season, but LeBron was still historically great while having his numbers reduced due to learning a new system and no longer needing to will his team to victory (which he still did often in the following years), as well as struggling to decide Leadership with Wade for a good part of the season. Objectively, LeBron was just a far better player than Rose or MVP runner-up Dwight in 2011, and was the greatest in the world. However, what truly won Rose the narrative. Not only did people hate LeBron for the decision and the NBA/NBA fans refuse to believe anyone who has star teammates should never win MVP unlike the NFL and MLB, but by the expectations that they had set and the expectations that had been set for them, they underperformed. 58 wins and struggling during the first half of the season to build team chemistry, leadership, and momentum when the bar was 65+ or even 70 wins just wasn't enough. Rose led a young upstart Bulls who nearly upset the Garnett-less Celtics in 2009 to 62 wins and the 1st Seed, and the "Youngest MVP ever" storyline worked heavily in his favor. I understand and respect why Rose somewhat deservedly won the MVP, but in a revote where the reqs for what an MVP are normalized, LeBron should win.

[@Tigerz58_TV]

Video idea: the benefits of having a gunslinger vs a pocket passer. Basically Josh Allen vs Joe burrow types of qb.

[@johndavis9321]

A gunslinger can also be a pocket passer tho look at peyton manning or dan Marino

[@fourarrowheads]

more nba content please. nash gets a lot of slander for his mvp seasons but its a good tell for those who weren't tuned in to the nba those years the suns played such great team basketball with nash running the show and their matchups with kobes lakers in those playoffs were just as exciting if not more than the proceeding finals imo. but im not glazing i get why other players w better stats may have equal or stronger cases for mvp those years. similar to the better record bias in the 90s

[@Michael-v1z9c]

Kobe had the killer instinct and Mamba mentality that all his contemporaries lacked. This alone should have been enough to win him MVP 20 times (each year he played in the NBA). The fact that he only won one is criminal.

[@romanramirez7847]

Kobe MVP in 1997, 1998, 2014, 2015 and 2016? Get out of here with that. Since when do people get rewarded for mentality only? What a dumb take.

[@bimbunuelo9985]

kobe would be pissed if he saw fans like this tarnish his rep with this warranted mvps for mamba mentality bs

[@-Comet.]

I love how hard you fought to give Lebron more MVPs than Jordan, elite narrative pushing is necessary when the stats don't do it

[@mrkoolaidism]

The argument of LT not winning that MVP because QB is more important is so dumb i cant tell if its satire. LT that year was on the best team in the NFL surrounded by not a single reciever with a thousand yards. Hell LT by himself had half of the recieving yards of antonio gates the number 1 pass catcher of that team. The chargers without LT that year would have been abysmal and thats literally what an MVP means. Its most valuable player not most valuable QB. Today's league makes sense for that thought process due to the running game being nonexistent for the most part outside of henry and mccaffrey, in 2006 however running the ball was as important as passing

[@regularnormal]

i think im tired of this guy

[@madisonlewis478]

Kobe avg 30 pts 7reb and 2stl a game in 02-03 season yeah he definitely deserved more fucking mvps

[@WeakenedArtist]

And Tracy Mcgrady had 32/6/5 and he was the scoring leader that season. I don’t think so.

[@CheekyNandoo]

Coming out hot with a nuclear fire take. Immediately lost me with the LT take

[@JTT1993]

Brady definitely should’ve gotten MVP in 2021 let’s be forreal lol

[@moopert86]

Honorable mention to Jokic not winning last year. Embiid was not better, the stats just weren't there and the discourse around him was mind numbingly dumb. The good news is that Nikola got the last laugh by not shitting his pants in the playoff and getting a ring that Embiid will never earn as the top guy.

[@charlesbrown2011]

Scottie pippen missed a lot of time in 1998, that's probably why MJ won it

[@MMMAXIMO]

lol Barry part of the undervaluing of RBs

[@kaelcrane2076]

In name only, qbs are more valuable and always will be. In use, the mvp award is more like the best player in the league. Not often, but it does occur where the best player in the league is not a qb, and they deserve to win. That Marshall Faulk season was insane

[@flight_knight_]

Lebron was playing MVP basketball in 2021 as well until he got injured by that terrorist Solomon Hill

[@WolverineIncognito]

Shaq deserves ZERO MVPs. I cannot respect a player with no jumpshot who doesn’t get called for half the fouls he commits. How can you criticize Brady and praise Shaq?

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

This is a goofy take I know, but I genuinely think Brees not getting MVP love was partly height bias. I think because he was shorter and looked a little smaller in his pads, he got some conscious or subconscious side eye from the old school types like Elway who like big, statuesque QBs.

[@anthonyrozewski2486]

Interesting... How tall are you?

[@jamesburgess2k]

No. As a Saints fan, it's because of Sean Payton. Everyone knew he was great, but because of the pass happy offense he was in, people would constantly discredit his numbers as they assumed the system he was in was boosting his stats. Only after he retired and everyone saw how you couldn't just plug anyone into that offense and have them throw for 5000 yards is when we saw everyone suddenly say how "underrated" Brees was.

[@stinkyboy101]

@@jamesburgess2kI think it’s a combination of what you said, the historically awful defenses holding his record back, and the fact that the Saints just don’t get much attention from the media even when doing well. As a falcons fan I rate Brees a lot higher than most people and I’m sure most fans of NFC south teams that had to see him twice a year in his prime would as well.

[@slappydoodle]

Barry only gives us bangers B grateful ya sacks of wine

[@MenverMan]

Jokic got robbed last year, Should be 4 straight MVPs this year

[@masterxploder5160]

Idk about some of these takes. I feel like we gotta see this the way JJ Watt said it: there’s the “best player”, and then there’s the “most valuable player”. D Rose in 2011 is 100% more valuable to his team than LeBron was to his. All we gotta see is what happened the year after to see how valuable he really was. Sorry but facts are facts.

[@IgnoringPhDvideo]

What happened to the round 1 preview video?

[@martha4286]

Rodgers had 44 touchdowns to 6 picks in 2016, he should’ve won it

[@TheDogBark27]

Real

[@Ma1q444]

11:21 lol iverson had a higher dbpm than shaq

[@vishtakes]

He purposely ignores than Shaq was playing next to Kobe who averaged 29 points and 2nd team all defense. AI had a mediocre supporting cast to the number 1 seed.

[@ramtheman8044]

Woulda been interesting to see how Wilt would look with this criteria.

[@fraseroliver17]

JJ Watts MVP snub angers me to this day.

[@latarribell4152]

Ah, off to a bad start, I see. Brees over LT? Nope. Still, love your channel.