Nice While It Lasted

[@ch33les99]

« What if I relapse again » « then you’ll get sober again » Todd is literally the purest human being

[@juanpablorobayo9891]

you do the hokey pokey, and you turn yourself around you turn yourself around that's what it's all about

[@ButterStick64]

Such a simple, seemingly goofy line, but actually quite profound when you think about it.

[@rohunsaigal2576]

Lol I guess it really is that simple when you think about it

[@darkball31]

well he was voiced by *aaron paul* aka meth head from breaking bad. so he knows about *addiction* and *sobriouty*

[@Anon-yz1xr]

It was definitely a homage to the end of eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, re: accepting the cycles that we fall into as part of who we are.

[@Dmoore2084]

I like how Todd's relationship with bojack NEVER went back to the way it was after the rock opera incident. It's small and subtle but theres always that hint of lingering resentment, and acknowledgement of the toxicity that bojack represents. It really is an arm's length friendship where one character wants the other to be better and fix their problems but is wise enough to not go down with the ship when they fail to do so. I really do love this show.

[@Hahaa99]

Yeah Reminds me of the lifeguard story told by Bojacks publicists when he was on the bender with Sarah Lynn

[@fish3977]

in general, I just loved in how different ways we have bojacks relationships ending. hollyhock cuts goes full no contact, diane moves on both understanding that their relationship is hurting them while at the end holding onto the comfort and closeness of one another, the one with Tod was healed yet never returned as it was with time and effort by bojack and at least there's princess carolyn which comes with both boundaries and their own personal growth and all of it is open ended yet satisfying

[@Dmoore2084]

@@Hahaa99 I COMPLETELY forgot about that! But yeah that's exactly what it is. That acknowledgment of it being okay to let people go as to not be bogged down by their self destruction. I know this show is loved by many but it's still a masterpiece that deserves more attention.

[@Dmoore2084]

@@fish3977 Right?! People end up responding to the end of that long road to semi- redemption as people, rather than characters. Some of them cut him off completely because they know hes bad for them and some stick around with cautious optimism that he can overcome the demons that he struggles with, but no one is portrayed as wrong. It manahes to simultaneously preach a message of redemption and hope while saying it's okay to save yourself from people who fail to change.

[@meris8486]

I think it was after Bojack slept with Todd's best friend that their relationship was changed forever.

[@sofiaa2787]

1:10 I really like how Todd calls the babies he takes care of "work associates"

[@sarbartharoy6277]

He's soo sweet and simple♥️

[@cammy60467]

Lol i didn't catch that😂😂

[@hanna3684]

This whole time I imagined full grown adults doing the hokey pokey with Todd lol

[@hipersonicc9736]

Oh my god where is your profile pic from? I know i have seen it somewhere

[@sofiaa2787]

@@hipersonicc9736 the windows dog assistant!! :D

[@chrisw3147]

I'm just now realizing Todd is riding Bojack like an actual horse.

[@laela6289]

Chris W hahahahaha

[@EMD1594]

Makes you wonder if they do have some sort of in-universe version of jockeys, cause they showed with Secretariat that horse racing is more like our world's version the 100m race.

[@AudreeAdam]

In my many years horse riding, I never tried it that way... Your comment really made me laugh!

[@Johnlindsey289]

@@EMD1594 What about in Tucca and Bertie, Regular Show, Goof Troop and Talespin where animal people aka furries and feral regular animals co-exist and all?

[@iwantaoctosteponmyneckbut3545]

@@Johnlindsey289 Does Tuca and Bertie really have feral animals? I can't remember any outside of the snake trains

[@TheDudeSmashTrash]

"did a helicopter crash into the prison and you just walked out?" I actually completely missed this callback to season one until I went back and started rewatching old episodes with a friend

[@aryanmenon995]

Which

[@ObservantDog]

That was genius... one, its a call back to what we SAW happen in season one, and TWO... Think about it, all the wacky shit Todd says, for all we know, ALL of that could be references to actual stuff that has happened to him and we [and the characters he's talking to] just think he's being wacky, lol

[@ripelivejam]

I like how they reference something so unabashedly ridiculous and silly in such a grounded moment.

[@koko6745]

Good to know I was t the only one that forgot that the first time around

[@rockoperajon]

It’s a great reminder that the show used to be much goofier. Yes, the series always mixed wacky comedy with heartbreaking drama, but seasons 1-3 were generally a lot more off the wall, while seasons 4-6 felt a bit more grounded in the serious side of things.

[@jackashmore]

I’ve been waiting for someone to post this. Todd will always be the glue holding these people together.

[@jamesklark6562]

Well technically the glue would be made out of Bojack and used by Todd.

[@nescaffier1524]

Actually I think the point of this episode is the people won't always be together lol. "it was nice while it lasted"

[@manu5171]

Honestly, outside of Mr. Peanutbutter, I think Todd might be the only to stay in contact with Bojack. And even then I'm not sure. His conversations with PC and Diane felt pretty final tho.

[@carlmadsen5734]

Well he is voiced by the creator

[@pecksi5752]

carl madsen no, he’s not

[@stepha2642]

Todd is basically saying "we will never be what we were before, but I don't want you out of my life"

[@CozyVemgeance]

I’m gonna fucking cry man

[@TheBoyFromAngelsEgg]

I'm in the spot.

[@themosaicshow]

was the same with princess carolyn. i’m glad bojack will still have them around.

[@AMayFlower]

Todd is Bojack’s second chance at getting right what he got wrong with Herb.

[@tim4330]

if only Herb.was not an asshole

[@emanx222]

Son of Atom are you kidding me? How on Earth was Herb an asshole? Bojack was so wrong for not even considering Herb’s feelings, not contacting the guy for 20 YEARS. Regardless of anything that came before that, Bojack should have at least bothered to check on someone who literally MADE HIM FAMOUS.

[@ALEDxAliya]

Son of Atom If you think Herb was an asshole you probably watched the show half asleep or you have a terrible sense of moral.

[@danjayson1]

@@tim4330 bojack was the one who cut ties to Herb when Bojack didn't call herb after getting fired how is Herb the asshole?

[@johanliebert4622]

@@tim4330 Nah, he isn't.

[@jackrock8433]

Todd is getting wise

[@ChBrahm]

He was always wise. We just learned to apreciate his wiseness

[@HanSanwich]

He’s multiplying

[@kingkongweiwei7669]

I j realized he is the voice of Jesse Pinkman

[@ChBrahm]

@@kingkongweiwei7669 yes he is

[@thegreathawk2244]

@@HanSanwich How will we stop him

[@Haedox]

Aaron Paul is so good. It’s insane.

[@alegaspoz1830]

My question may be a little bit amateur, but...are the animations done first or the setting of voices? Do you know?

[@bigbadgammagnome]

@@ariel_soria uh no, voice acting is done before animation. you may be thinking of anime dubs, where they have to voice act while watching the animation because it was originally animated for japanese VAs

[@mp6412]

@@bigbadgammagnome this

[@hivemind010]

@@ariel_soria no?

[@Slazors]

Did you just comment on every bojack video or?

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

1:07 "Then you'll get sober again." The way Todd responded so quickly warms my heart. You can tell he has faith in Bojack again. Even if he relapses, he is still the new Bojack that wants to change

[@breeeegs]

I thought Bojack always wanted to change, he just failed at it.

[@franciscofernandez3415]

@@breeeegs I think about It more like this, Bojack always wanted to change but couldn't bring himself to do so because he was too scared of getting out of his comfort zone, at least that was until Sarah linn died.

[@alecbormia4523]

​@@breeeegs Yes and no. What I took away from everything Bojack went through with his parents was that Bojack wanted to change but felt it was physically impossible for him to be a better person. Bojack had it ingrained in him from all the shit with his parents that he would never be able to be anything more than a worthless piece of shit no matter how much he tried. So to try and forget that Bojack drank and did drugs. When Bojack did try to be better he kept convincing himself that it couldn't happen and his brain looked for any excuse to prove his parents right. It was a self fulfilling prophecy that just kept on fueling his substance abuse.

[@shrisiva4016]

@@alecbormia4523 Yes his mother told him he'd always be worthless

[@ntbored7727]

@@shrisiva4016 “you were born broken” That definitely broke him.

[@aidanwotherspoon905]

I love how Todd can still love Bojack so purely while still maintaining his own firm boundaries with him. An example for us all!

[@daniapfel2825]

Despite Todd don’t forgive Bojack of being shitty with him and break his drzam

[@aidanwotherspoon905]

@@daniapfel2825 one of the most useful things I’ve learned about forgiveness is that you don’t have to absolve someone of a past wrongdoing in order to forgive them; forgiveness is a matter of foregoing your desire for revenge, it’s as good for the forgiver as it is for the forgivee. Todd never wanted Bojack to be harmed or “punished” he just wanted Bojack to get better and be better

[@daniapfel2825]

@@aidanwotherspoon905 Okay you’re right Bojack just needed finally of realise how shitty he was

[@mr89908]

I wouldn't be friends with someone who struggles so much to be my friend with such heavy boundaries

[@AngieGandalf6]

1:15 Notice how Todd's footprints begin when he gets off Bojack? That means he's been carried for a little while, not just to see the fireworks in that spot lol Small detail, but I found it cute

[@theblazepage]

That's cool! I didn't notice that bit.

[@noneoftheosrt]

It makes me hopeful about Todd and Bojack's friendship, actually! And it actually goes much further: It starts with just Bojack's footprints. Todd is being carried along. It takes a struggle and a great fall from Bojack's shoulders for Todd to land on his two feet. From there on out, their paths diverge, Bojack running further and further ahead (away). Todd catches up though, with big, confident leaps. And with a Hokey Pokey, Todd turns their paths around, spinning into both of their footprints until you can't tell which ones are the ones coming in, and which ones are the ones heading out. They're in the same place and in the same mess, with Todd adjacent to Bojack; considerably even ahead of him, if you look at it a certain way. A wave comes in and washes all previous footpaths away. None of it, not even your past, really matters, does it?

[@orochinagis]

I like after the footprints gets separated, Todd decides to turn around like the song says and keeps close to bojack no longer to be on his back again but at his side

[@Morpet]

@@noneoftheosrt awesome comment

[@fleskel]

What if he just walked in the exact footsteps behind Bojack, seems like a thing Todd would do.

[@ofardo8046]

This last episode was so bittersweet. I cried at the end of this scene. I cried out of happiness, I was so happy that after all they've been through, bojack and Todd remain friends. And I cried because we won't see them again. However, it was nice while it lasted.

[@Quinna5537]

Osvaldo Cuevas I just love put of all the f words. Todd was the only relationship BoJack could save.

[@nevereverr]

Que A I mean Bojack and PC are still friends. And I guess Bojack and Mr PB

[@samuelhadjaissa5201]

@@nevereverr same with diane while no longer as dependent on each other as they were back then,but they end there relationship on rocky but good note

[@juliannatale6743]

samuel hadjaissa actually I think they never talk to eachother again after that, bojack says “What if this is the last time we ever talked” humorously and Diane kinda just awkwardly smiled

[@samuelhadjaissa5201]

@@juliannatale6743 I can see that, they both relied on each other to cope with their own drama but now that they can both among themselves now means that they don't need each other anymore

[@quitthischannellol4368]

Fun fact : Todd’s first line was “goodmorning sunshine” and his last was “it’s nice while it lasted”.

[@aliendragons_corruptedSoul]

Sounds like foreshadowing to me.

[@claudcopter9784]

And they're last scene is at night. Fuck.

[@deadstones1]

so... is this in reference to something, or?

[@ashwragg7190]

and it was nice while it lasted

[@Onepieceistheworstanime]

Your point?

[@hollyhenkel904]

“What if I relapse again?” “Then you’ll get sober again” I fucking love Todd.

[@derekmann8239]

@AD 313 *we all need to be a Todd in someone's life. Not necessarily the mooching part lol, but the supportive part.

[@petscopkid]

@@derekmann8239 finally someone said it, if we all want a Todd in our lives we should be a Todd as well if that makes any sense.

[@MrThebeast115]

We need to be our own Todd's honestly.

[@plantdaddy7738]

miss my friends. sometimes you dont get aseocnd chance so I live for two lives now

[@lraoux]

well he's right..

[@samif1128]

I've been rewatching the series from the beginning and seeing the contrast on how Bojack and Todd talk to each other. The way Bojack is actually listening to him and taking in his advice, even though he playfully calls Todd stupid in the end. Season 1 Bojack would've meant it, there would've been malice. Seeing that growth right off the bat is incredible.

[@sadnansami]

Bojack never treated Todd like a genuine person back in the early seasons. On the other hand, Todd was stupid too.

[@alexvaughan1013]

BoJack hasn't said the line, "Shut up, Todd!", in 4 years.

[@lraoux]

It's tough for me to re-watch this show, but it undoubtedly impacted me and my feelings as I watched it through its entirety. Maybe because of how existential it is.. I have epilepsy, and this show would sometimes give me deep thoughts which led to realizations that sometimes scared me and led to seizures due to the high level of anxiety. That wouldn't be the case today, but I just feel like the show's been watched. Wrapped in a neat, perfect little package that needs no more investigation. But I am SO grateful for the genius of Ralph. The art this show presents is downright breathtaking.

[@simonf9160]

Everyone needs a Todd in their lives.

[@bobtheball5384]

Agreed. I just wished I could be that person lmao

[@psychedelicyeti6053]

No thanks 😂

[@Window4503]

Robo If they’re as wide and kind as Todd is now, I wouldn’t mind.

[@mogleyjungle]

Lol y’all take the bad from Todd’s character instead of the good, seriously? Mooch or not, he proves himself throughout the show, did more than most, and in all honesty out of all the character created inside the show, Todd is probably the most balanced of them all.

[@hamzabellabaci5722]

He killer people with rabies tho

[@gigiratliff5801]

The hokey pokey part of this dialogue is honestly so underrated

[@swagbros3220]

honestly, "isnt the point of art less what people put into it and more what you get out of it" really resonates with me and genuinely changed my perspective on alot of art

[@melodicdumpster]

The part when he said "that's why it's called Art" always confused me, I tried to analyze it right now and this is what I got from that: When he talk about his mother "...I did? or she did? or we... «are»" Connects with the part about Art "... Or maybe art doesn't need a point, maybe that's why is called «Art»" The word "art" is the ancient form of "are" Example: Art thou / are you *_It's Art because it IS_* Or that's what I got from Todd's strange phrasing, it's the only interpretation I could came across and I don't know if it's intended, but isn't Art what you get out of it?

[@djk1288]

@@swagbros3220 And it also doubles as another Hokey Pokey joke because the whole dance is "putting yourself in" and "getting yourself out"!

[@dandansoysauce8762]

I never realized they rhymed about with about

[@felix56p]

I wish people irl were as caring as Todd. especially when he says "you just seemed really overwhelmed at the party." I need a Todd in my life.

[@Optimystik]

There are people like that. They aren't everywhere, but they are out there. That's what makes them special. ;) Keep the faith, you'll find 'em.

[@tacomeat5689]

Be the Todd in your life!

[@JustaComment93]

Be the Todd.

[@bananamanchester4156]

Yo guys the waves wash away their footprints at the end so they can make new ones, because life isn't about retracing your steps, it's about taking new steps! THIS SHOOOOOW

[@victorgz2907]

You turn yourself around

[@triccele]

Yeah... I don't know if the show writers put that much thought into the existential significance of the images

[@Kino_Cartoon]

You can always change who you are or what you do but you can't unchanged what you did! You'll leave footprints you'll leave hood memories or scars. But I still like your interpretation because it doesn't contredic that. Even so you created all this footprints you have a world full of choices how you can act in the present.

[@justanotherblackwhitemicke7817]

@@triccele Im pretty sure they did

[@triccele]

@@justanotherblackwhitemicke7817 you really missed the joke, didn't you?

[@richiesnowden-leak8803]

When BoJack says, "What if I relapse again?" and Todd replies, "Then you'll get sober again," the water starts to get closer, and by the end of the scene the water wipes away completely the footsteps they left on the beach. When all the footsteps do go, they both agree that it was "nice while it lasted." The footsteps are metaphoric of Bojack's worry; he might just relapse again, but if he does, and all his progress is wiped away-his footsteps on the long, arduous journey of sobriety-then he just starts again.

[@amandamckay4278]

Richie Snowden-Leak your pfp is exactly how I felt after reading your comment 😂

[@richiesnowden-leak8803]

@@amandamckay4278 I know right 😂

[@amicopizza]

"Yeah I don"t know if the show writers put that much thought in the existential significance of the images"

[@Sophie_the_Sapphic]

@@amicopizza "but isn't the point of art less what people put into it, and more what people get out of it?"

[@planetzdr]

Noice

[@Ojo10]

The footprints get washed away right when Todd said "Well, it was nice while it lasted." Me: Yeah okay the creators are DEFINITELY never coming back to the show.....damn.

[@kerswhi]

what sucks is that it was netflix who cancelled/wanted too end the show. This show could've stayed on air for many more years, thats what the people behind it wanted atleast.

[@mp4Junkie]

smols it got cancelled because it wasn’t bringing in enough viewers. Netflix’s CEO(i think) claimed it was his favorite show at the time, but business is business.

[@nikolettkiss5298]

@@mp4Junkie I've heard somewhere that it had to end because of the animation company or something like that closed or stopped working with Netflix? Same reason why Tuca and Bertie didn't get a 2nd season.

[@mp4Junkie]

@@nikolettkiss5298 There were rumors that the show was cancelled because the animation studio wanted to unionize, yes. It's believable, but still just rumors.

[@nikolettkiss5298]

@@mp4Junkie Oh yes, that was it. Thanks for the clarification! Sadly, it doesn't matter anymore, we are not gonna get anymore Bojack content. This was an awesome show.

[@AlexisCoooper]

it was very nice while it lasted. I will never forget this show.

[@cinekodakexp]

"It was nice while it lasted"...while the tide washes away their footprints.

[@graphite2786]

"This is nice" Last words of the show.

[@uinav7726]

"You just seemed really overwhelmed at the party and thought you could use some air" Just shows that Todd's level of empathy and EQ. We all need a Todd in our life.

[@thepankechannel]

I mean he literally killed several people with rabies but who am I to judge?

[@mommyblogger4981]

@@thepankechannel WAIT RLLY

[@Window4503]

Ed lol you’re not a real Bojack Horseman character until you do something terrible...

[@kizuuwu7563]

Oh come on, that was just business

[@Koellenburg]

Todd has the EQ of what Einstein has as IQ

[@shortstackashe]

a lot of people in the comments are saying that Bojack and Todd's friendship can never go back to how it was when they were living together. I agree with the sentiment, but I also think it's kind of backwards. To me, this scene is the strongest, purest, most real example of their friendship in the entire show. Bojack seemingly DESPISED Todd when they first lived together, and Todd was totally dependant on Bojack to keep a roof over his head. Their relationship never goes back, and thats a brilliant thing because Bojack learns to care for others and Todd learns to care for himself

[@DinahoftheRailroad]

I love this perspective regarding the characters. They, as Todd stated, "Turned themselves around."

[@AnEnemySpy456]

Yeah, BoJack didn't ruin a good relationship, Todd realized what a bad relationship it had always been.

[@shrisiva4016]

Exactly, it wasn't a real friendship in the first place

[@2702-i9i]

I think they are going to stay friends. Not as close as they were when Todd lived at bojacks house but still. I think both of them grew from their mistakes and have a lot more healthy relationship

[@kayturs]

I think they'll be even closer than the begining. This might actually be the start of a genuine friendship between them. Bojack was really mean to Todd when they lived together, but now they're talking to each other like.. people. I think it's the start of their friendship, and this alone makes me so happy with the ending.

[@compajuan014]

@@kayturs honestly I really wanted their relationship to be like before and them separating was hard to see but it seems they'll slowly be back to being close or even closer than before

[@therealtonydutch]

@@kayturs This. Being literally close is not the same as actually being close. I have a friend and we rarely see each other, but the moment we're in the room together it's fun and stuff can get real. We are opposites on a lot of opinions too but that always fades away in mutual understanding.

[@stepha2642]

They may not ever be what they were, and both of them realize it. But Todd wants Bojack to stay part of his life

[@arandombard1197]

Their old friendship is over. Todd is allowing him to build a new friendship, but he won't allow himself to be sucked in by Bojack's self-destruction.

[@HinataChick38]

I love how after Bojack told Todd about how he's not doing big improvements but is "staying out of trouble at least", Todd still is happy for him, saying "Hooray! Staying out of trouble at least!" This is important to me because it shows that when you suffer from things like depression, PTSD, anxiety, take your pick, it's hard to make big improvements and recovery is long and hard, but just being able to do little things, like get out of bed in the morning, fix a good breakfast, taking a shower can be seen as an accomplishment, because at least you got something done, and that's important in the process of healing. Even little things like "staying out of trouble at least" can be an outstanding achievement.

[@gijstuijtel2278]

Thanks, I actually really needed to read this. Thanks.

[@user-qu8zs7vs1x]

This scene and this comment made me tear up. You are so right.

[@Seandaguy]

Todd : theres too much emphasis on the hokey pokey part Bojack : well this is what its all about *gold*

[@FringeMusic107]

While the pun is top notch, imagine one of the writers actively listening to the Hokey Pokey and thinking "Wait, is the "that" referring to the Hokey Pokey part, or the turning yourself around part?!", and working that into the philosophy of the series finale. That's some thought process!

[@Deepdarkbasement]

... I’m gonna miss this show’s word play It and Tuca & Bertie :/

[@GotikLeyla]

Deepdarkbasement Tuca & Bertie is coming back!

[@Seandaguy]

@@GotikLeyla seriously? , when?

[@GotikLeyla]

@@Seandaguy Lisa Hanawalt tweeted about it last week. I guess adult swim bought it. twitter.com/lisadraws/status/1263872025426190337

[@Derekivery]

You do the hokey pokey, and you turn yourself around. You turn yourself around... THAT's what it's all about. Only a show like Bojack could turn a nursery rhyme into a powerful life philosophy

[@jackashmore]

It’s crazy that this conversation is only about three minutes. It feels like hours but in a good way.

[@GabeDidGood]

Notice that their shadows merge at the very end. I think it implies the possibility that Todd's happy-go-luckiness might finally rub off on Bojack. The ending lines at least show that they understand each other better than ever.

[@thehermit8618]

Their fused shadows kinda look like a extremely thicc woman

[@RyGuyMemes]

I think all you people in the comments are high as shit

[@johanliebert4622]

@@RyGuyMemes Nah.

[@adriansaldana2073]

Everyone dissecting everything from what they say to the littles details in the background is the purest source of information about growth and that's what makes a show memorable, good on you all

[@TheCommenterDragon]

I think we can all agree that Todd is one of the best characters on this show, i mean he's like the friend you need when it's what you need the most.

[@jerrygil1965]

Yup

[@rosePetrichor]

this show was so fucking special. a lot of people are bojack, a lot of people are todd, a lot of people are diane, a lot of people are princess carolyn, and a lot of people are somewhere in between.

[@jaelyyymar8071]

1:07 I know this video is four years old, but I just noticed that Todd’s footprints pause, then catch back up with BoJack, showing the time he left and drawing attention to the space between their paths, where Todd leaves BoJack’s. I dunno, I just feel like someone on the storyboard team felt really clever for this bit, and then no one noticed. 😅

[@Heating56]

“What if I relapse again?” “Then you’ll get sober again.” Bojack’s defeated sigh is so good at conveying just how hard it is to want to get better. I firmly believe in the saying “once an addict, always an addict”, in that we never really get over our addictions, we just learn how to give them up, but we always suffer the risk of relapse. This show was such a masterpiece, to convey the intricacies of giving up addiction in something as simple as an exasperated sigh during a conversation between friends

[@fish3977]

I am struggling with self harm and today I relapsed after a year or so. "then you will get sober again" is such a simple statement with so, so much power.

[@danielasolano5960]

Omg did y’all notice the helicopter reference, that’s how Todd got out of prison in season 1

[@adityakeshari4647]

Woah totally forgot, nice to bring that point....

[@idontknow4398]

I thought I was the only one who noticed it instantly lmao

[@oz_jones]

No, you are literally the first one.

[@smallvoices9564]

Anyone notice that the world went to shit as soon as Bojack Horseman ended?

[@karlaj.4056]

Indeed

[@Deku.-]

Bojack has ended and everything is worse now.

[@ghosteyesmusic420]

The world went to shit long before Bojack even began

[@T3AMKILL]

@@Deku.- great comment

[@derekmann8239]

I'm not saying Slayer held the world together. But Slayer disbanded and played their last show in 2019. And look what's happened since.

[@ChasehaWing]

I like how Todd grew and his relationship with Bojack. When Bojack was showing toxic behavior before the interview, he said "You're just like the old Bojack. I like this new Bojack! Call me again when the new one is back." And here the new Bojack returned and Todd came back to him. It's a really nice thing. Bojack really has a good friend there and hopefully he'll one day see it and treat him better.

[@kylemorello4787]

It seems like Bojack's starting to somewhat appreciate that fact

[@mattbenz99]

Todd's understanding of the Hoki Poki is what is called "The Death of the Author". Basically, Todd believes that the initial meaning of the art doesn't actually matter. What matters is what the viewer gets from it. This is a quite controversial idea in art. It basically says that creators have no ownership over what anything in their work means.

[@elisa_740]

I think I agree with Todd on this one

[@thibautisserant]

Look at the paintings from Da Vinci, or the movies from Kubrik Most long lasting art outlast their creator. When it is done, what viewpoint can they bring on it ? All that remains is the art itself and what people get from it.

[@therealtonydutch]

It's not that controversial. I subscribe to the idea of the death of the author and I attempt to create my art that way. It's free to interpret or whatever anyone wants to do with it. What I think or how I feel about it doesn't matter anymore the moment I release my work into the world. It sort of becomes of everyone. Furthermore that's how abstract art really comes into it's own, when the artist no longer "owns" it. If artists are willing to sell their work, they are willing to part with what is theirs. It's literally like selling your babies. So I generally would prefer to share my art for free, or maybe trade it for anything but money. I don't think I want people to make money off of it.

[@PlaguedByEarth]

And that's when Todd lost what he had going there, as BoJack put it. Death of the Author is hogwash.

[@maleazarkevich6635]

I wouldn't say they have no ownership though. I think it would be more correct to say they have less control about the interpretation their work may get. As an author, writter or whatever, you might get a message across. A feeling, an idea, a situation. But you must know that people may interpret it in a completely different way than you intended. They have had other experiences and other beliefs that may affect the way they see what you have created. And that's the magical thing about art: no one will get the same out of it.

[@elaboratelime5617]

Man....these characters, these stories are so human....I’ve been struggling with so much recently, am addicted to drugs and was recently hospitalized because of it, funny enough I had quit before.... I relapsed and it nearly cost me everything...... it hurts me to the core when bojack talks about how he fears he could slip up again, I fear I could slip up again....but when Todd tells him that he will “get sober again” and that “everyday he will set a new record for being sobor”.... well I know it’s a show and it’s a convo between two established characters with their own context....but somewhere deep down it feels like he talking to me....and when am scared I be nothing more then a drugged out failure, I watch this little clip.....and I don’t feel quite as scared anymore..... I really did get a lot from this show, it truly was heartfelt.

[@GrayShadowOfNight]

It's absolutely valid for you to feel talked to. Art doesn't exist in a vacuum. Like Todd says, it's about what people get out of it. When a team makes a series like Bojack, they don't do it just to tell the story, but for the story to be heard. I hope that the show can keep giving you something you need for years to come. I know that I personally keep looking back at Diane and her struggle with "good and bad damage" the arc where she struggles to write her book.... As a depressed writer, I absolutely feel personally addressed here as well

[@claudiogrienti7551]

Rewatching this after months, i just can't shake the feeling, even if it's not true, that "it was nice while it lasted" is directed to the audience, writers, creators and to everyone involved in the show. It makes me feel sad even more, knowking that the show was canceled by netflix, and wasn't in the creators intentions.

[@Johnlindsey289]

What? You want this show to become a zombie like those two overstayed welcome families on fox and that talking sponge on nick?

[@jpeg204]

@@VegetableVendetta weird take, the show was at its end but not for the reasons you stated

[@iit5530]

@@VegetableVendetta the show was political from the start and made it pretty clear where its beliefs lie in the first season itself also there is nothing wrong with being "political"

[@VigilantSight]

​@@VegetableVendettaJust saying, life IS politics. Bojack horseman is no different. Choosing not to be interested in politics is like saying "Yeah I actively don't care enough about my neighbors to improve their lives. I only care if it affects me" Not saying politics should be every discussion. Just actively being aware of issues is a great start. I think Bojack did a great episode when they satirized the fracking industry, even if I didn't have any personal opinions about fracking.

[@djk1288]

To be fair, Bojack Horseman ended up getting some pretty special treatment in this regard. Waksberg said that he wanted some sort of heads-up from Netflix when the show was going to end, rather than just being asked to produce season after season and risk suddenly getting the story cut off. Netflix actually obliged with this, and before Season 6 started production they basically told him "You know that heads-up you wanted so you could properly end the story? Well, here's that heads up." So the writers and creators were able to work with Season 6 knowing that they needed to end the story and tie up the plot lines as best as they could.

[@ti2218]

All good things have to come to an end. Bojack Horseman respected that. This show was a masterpiece through and through.

[@Johnlindsey289]

Yup and even King of the Hill, Futurama, My Little Pony FIM, Regular Show etc. all earned their endings eh and glad they with Bojack didn't drag on and on to become a stale puppeted Weekend at Bernies style corpse like The Simpsons, Spongebob and Family Guy?

[@Oldmanhenderson12]

This scene marks a huge turning point for Bojack. Before, he would usually shut Todd down when he talked about something difficult in his life and wouldn’t ask additional questions. But Bojack seemed interested in what Todd was going through with his mother

[@omniarch8078]

“Isn’t the point of art less what people put into it and more what people get out of it” amazing little pieces of commentary like this is what makes this show one of the greatest shows of all time.

[@djk1288]

And it also doubles as a Hokey Pokey joke - "You _put your left hand in,_ you _get your left hand out."_

[@InfernalPume]

there is something unspeakably and defiantly beautiful about todd being so kind to a person he'll never forgive.

[@Elsisalittleconcerned]

Todd has come such a long way; he’s such an important, powerful character. It’s so great to see healthy boundaries in place and understanding that sometimes, it’s better to love from a distance.

[@ConTejasMusic]

Did anyone notice the "3D" fireworks Todd was excited about were in the shape of Princess Carolyn and Judah?

[@adannajera250]

So she married Judá? I miss that:o

[@japerladole]

@@adannajera250 he told her he loved her

[@slacktivism05]

@@adannajera250 How tho. They literally discussed about it in the episode

[@hivemind010]

literally the whole episode is about bojack being let out of prison to go to their wedding. wtf

[@kimberlyklaus7296]

@@adannajera250 Bojack was out of prison for one day to attend the "industry wedding". Princess Carolyn was already married, in a much smaller private wedding with friends and family.

[@ghostthad9155]

There are so many little details in this show that you just can't catch them all the first time you watch it. For instance, I've seen it several times and I only just now realized the significance of the waves washing away their footprints.

[@Naaomzz]

“Oh, you just seemed really overwhelmed at the party and i thought you could use some air.” This part of the scene always gets me. How Todd always seems to notice the smallest things about people and tries to act on those. Sometimes it’s just all about the small things and the people who notice. I wish i had someone like Todd..

[@scottdenby290]

Not many people talk about the line about Todd and his mother's relationship, I always find it so hopeful. Bojack: So what changed? Todd: I don't know, I did, or she did, or we... are?

[@Chris_loves]

This. We are always changing.

[@worldwideshae]

The hokey pokey “turning around” thing is still blowing my mind a bit. I freakin love Todd!!!

[@Boulder_Bill]

I will never get tired of this scene.

[@revedraws4186]

I just realized; no Todd is not intelligent or clever... he is very mature, he grew up in maturity during seasons and seasons and that's why I love him

[@KaleLikesWaffles]

0:25 i just realized Todd referenced the time he was in jail lol

[@AwkCrafty]

Todd and Bojack has my favorite dynamic in the show.

[@fry_331]

This was the best ending the show could of possibly had. The last lines were absolutely tear wrenching.

[@miraarsinkathar9315]

“Did a helicopter crashed into side of the building and then you just walked out?” Good call back

[@jorgesoto1692]

I make sure to rewatch this scene at least once a week. The Hockey - Pockey analogy is just genius.

[@tireins1072]

“You do the Hockey Pockey and you turn yourself around-you _turn_ _yourself_ around. That’s what it’s all about.” I swear, every time I’ve felt resentment towards myself for failing in something, I repeat these words in my head. Just turn yourself around and start over again. Because that’s what it’s all about.

[@skywker1]

Lmao , damn autocorrect

[@tireins1072]

@@skywker1 lol I just noticed

[@eshnd-1]

The footprints disappearing due to the ocean after they said it was nice while it lasted was another great touch

[@Kabutoes]

2:44 the footprints disappear as Todd says “it was nice while it lasted”

[@MarcoStrange]

I feel like the footprints being washed away by the waves are showing Bojack leaving the past behind him now. It's like the past is gone, and the only thing that remains are the footprints he made while he's standing in that one spot. Then again i could be looking too much into this one.

[@corntastrophy]

At least this show is very rewarding when you do look into things like that.

[@miyukiisone6589]

No no, never think it’s stupid to analyse small things. Sometimes, they can tell you so so much. The fact a peice of art can give you that much to think about is incredible, and I don’t believe the idea that you can “read too much” into things

[@MrJethroha]

I just realize that "Doing the hokey pokey with some work associates" would be some kind of innuendo if it came out of any character's mouth other than Todd, who of course means it completely literally.

[@djk1288]

Though of course the "work associates" he's referring to are babies, don't forget that

[@Slice_abel]

Most underrated part of this whole scene is that when Todd says ‘it was nice while it lasted’ the footprints then get washed away, to symbolise that the moment they shared was nice but now it’s gone. Just like how Todd enjoyed the time he spent with Bojack, but it’s gone now. Truly beautiful.

[@abushakhmanserik6558]

I love how at the end of the scene waves clear Bojack and Todd's footprints, like they can start their friendship from scratch. It makes sense since their dialog was about turning yourself around

[@jeremygorszczyk]

It does not matter how many times I see any Bojack clips, it always gives me either chills, tears or both.

[@InfoBinger]

Bojack Horseman is so good I don't even have to watch anything just hearing the characters talk is enough.

[@rileybear836]

Anyone out there suffering from addiction, you can turn yourself around. It’s never too late.

[@OfficialMochaBearIllustrations]

I was married, and lived a really simplistic life. I felt more love for that woman then i ever felt for anyone, then she died. Its going on 5 years and ive been single ever since. Im now setting sails on experiencing life outside of america and seeing other places and becoming other things. Im more than likely never going to marry again. Ive just chosen to close that chapter in my life and seeing what can i accomplish alone in this life...but...it was nice, while it lasted.

[@Xackory]

Sorry :(

[@ianbattles7290]

"I can't tell if you're being smart or stupid."

[@cosmosayz]

this made me cry more than any other moment in this finale haha,,, Todd was probably the most consistently best character throughout the show and this is a wonderful, heartfelt conclusion with them

[@cityofevil3283]

It's been over a year since I watched this episode. The part about the Hokey Pokey has stayed with me since I saw this episode. I guess you can say I did the hokey pokey and I turned myself around after seeing this. Man, I miss this show.

[@johnolson3270]

“It was nice while it lasted right?” And the waves wipe away their last footsteps 😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@kimberlyklaus7296]

"Then you'll get sober again..." Every day, it gets easier. But you gotta do it every day. That's the hard part. But, it does get easier.

[@Dylans3Tears]

Probably the best Todd scene in the entire series, and it happens to be his last. Beautiful.

[@Optimystik]

I think this is one of the best scenes in the whole show.

[@HuyHosimple]

i love how the fireworks at 0:04 looks like princess carolyn and judah

[@RahulSingh-ck4tu]

"But isn't the point of art less what people put into it and more what people get out of it?" -todd Word to live by

[@amaurymestan6192]

this fucking show left a void in my life and i can't seem to fill it

[@animalfinatic9366]

I love this show so much.

[@taylormaney4374]

the god damn hokey pokey quote. that’s what gets me. the best line in the entire show in my opinion. really hits home and wow. just wow.

[@roeishai]

Bojack did horrible things, he hurt people in a way that is probably unforgivable. But he keeps on living, people, even those that hurt others keep on living, and as they keep on living, they still need people around them. It's normal and justifiable that some people pushed Bojack away from their lives after what he did, but it's also normal that some will allow him to still be a small part of their lives. Not because they forgive what he did, but because they know that he is still a person, that can try and be better, and needs people around him to make himself better. I am so happy that in some way Todd is still one of those people, Bojack does not deserve him, but he still needs him. This show changed a lot about how I feel about redemption and forgiveness.

[@etonawa]

This is one of my favorite scenes in this show. Thank you for uploading it.

[@quenteqmampff8204]

I love this scene. The waves slowly washing away the footprints they left in the past leaving only the footprints where they are now, in the present. The past is gone, washed away, and nothing can be done about it, all you can do is live in the now and look forward at what footprints you can create. Those washed away footprints though, they were nice while they lasted.

[@MrPoopiesoup]

Love how Todd rides BoJack coming into the scene, and the footsteps begin as one, like how the show started with them as pals. Then the footsteps split up as they go further which sums up their relationship. When Todd says "it was fun while it lasted" the footprints are washed away and they can start anew in their own directions.

[@kinspower]

Wow and the ocean covering their tracks in the end to show just their current footsteps, shows powerful

[@motheroftheuniverse6140]

Todd is probably the only character in this show that scores a 100 on the rice purity scale

[@VimalVijayan94]

For the memory of someone ❤

[@amanonplanetearth78]

0:28 I like how they finally acknowledge that Todd has, in fact, comitted a federal crime

[@Changwen666]

Having been living for a short period of 20+ years time, I also hv realised life is an endless cycle where you go through up and downs recurrently. Hence you may relapse and you may get sober again. But no matter when you are in the middle of relapsing or sobering, the process is always joyful and that’s the reason you do it. Therefore, no matter if you are relapsing or sobering, it’s nice while it lasted.

[@xandpen]

Todd is carried by BoJack so it starts out as only BoJacks footprints then he gets down and makes his own and then they all get washed away when he says “it was nice while it lasted”. Todd started the show being carried by BoJack, sleeping on his couch and having less of his own things to do, then he became independent and split off from BoJack. Then in the end, their past together gets washed away

[@libertatemadvocatus1797]

SOME of the footprints are washed away, but there are new footprints. Todd is carried by Bojack, they're side-by-side, the footprints get jumbled, those get washed away, but there are new ones.

[@theharlequin7280]

I just keep coming back to watching this scene. It's perfect from beginning to end. So awesome that some "wacky cartoon show" I decided to check out one faithful day had left one of the biggest emotional marks on me.

[@meanyapickles]

Every time I think I'm developing better habits I fall out again, and I used to think that meant that I would never be able to maintain good habits. But then life isn't an uphill battle to a save haven you stay in forever and then everything's fine it's continuously putting effort in, and then falling out, and putting effort in and you shake it all about. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around because _that's_ what it's all about.

[@skyhighlazarus]

Keep on keeping on anya

[@psychedelicyeti6053]

I kept thinking, "it was nice while it lasted" when he was talking to Diane 💔 I mean, they met at the beginning of the series, and the friendship ended at the end.

[@tropicalcomedy6497]

of all the people bojack had his final words with, i think this one with todd is my favorite

[@BullyMaguireMan]

The fact that the waves wash away the footprints in the sand representing that there is nothing to look back on and there is only where they are now in the moment that matters. "It was nice while it lasted"

[@GOODBOYMODZZ]

Todd is such a homie.

[@3hristopher]

I really like this Todd made me realize the whole ending was great life isn’t easy but you make it work to your best

[@tostahmeister6861]

I love how Todd tries to explain the deeper meaning behind the ‘Hokey Pokey’ that’s such a stoner thing to do