Nicephoros Phokas: Pale Death of the Saracens (950-969) // Byzantium Documentary

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[@HistoryTime]

Watch my latest history documentary here:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWSrommLlquEp80 Finally dedicating an entire episode to a Byzantine Emperor. First of many to come! Who is your favourite Emperor of Byzantium? Let me know in the comments.. Maybe I will make a video of them! Please like and subscribe if you enjoyed the video, and let us know in the comments what you'd like too see covered in the future.

[@yavyav2281]

History Time mh John Tzimiskes or Basil 2nd are my favourite

[@DarkW0lverine]

Byzantine Emperors all have such interesting histories, you gotta give us more It'd be awesome if you gave us vids on the Bulgar Tsars as well. Especialy Krom, and Kolyan; who destroyed the crusaders who occupied Byzantium when they were supposed to go to the Middle East

[@mrsir2254]

A very much appreciated production good sir. For your question, im partial too a couple of the Pailaigos, Basil (slightly iffy, he was an interesting fellow. Id not want to have too fight him in war, would for sure attempt too have him murdered) Alexios makes a good stab at staving off destruction, and Maurice had potential. There are one or two more (Justin? Justinian was impressive, a great if cowardly man, but a good emperor? Good for his people? Good for the state? I personally think he was anathema too good governance in later years. ) but that's probably enough for the crown.

[@elek8460]

Basil the bulgar Slayer!

[@georgechristman6920]

My favorite emperors are Alexios I and his son John II.

[@borna1231]

Can I just say that The History of Byzantium is by FAR the best pre-modern history podcast to date? It set out to be a continuation of The History Of Rome podcast, but in my opinion it soon surpassed it both in the amount of detail and the flow of the narrative. If you are into history podcasts, you reeeeaaally shouldn´t skip this one. Oh, and Piersons voice is very soothing and just makes the whole thing a great lisitening experience.

[@majorianus8055]

Exactly my opinion too!

[@obi-wankenobimasterjediand5091]

Well you can’t make the Byzantine empire boring it’s impossible

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

His name, in Greek, literally means ''He who brings victory''.

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

Does Nike literally mean victory or does it originally only refer to the goddess Nike?

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

Dexter Both

[@Z1BABOUINOS]

@@aimanmarzuqi4804 Nike, literally means victory. Goddess Nike (as a name), is the equivalent of the name Victoria.

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

@@Z1BABOUINOS Aah I get it now. I guess in English Nikephoros's name would be the equivalent of the name Victor. I like the name.

[@Z1BABOUINOS]

@@aimanmarzuqi4804 Yes... kind of, Victor. You see, Victor means *victorious* and Nikephoros means the one who *brings* victory. Slight difference there. Nikephoros is a compound word: Nike (victory) and the verb phero (I bring, or I bear something) Similar compound names of Greek origin: Christopher: The one who bears Christ inside Lucifer: light bearer (Luc, from the Latin LUX for light)

[@cristerowarrior1450]

Eastern Orthodox history is just so damn cool

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

Emiliano Zapata is way more cooler !!!

[@minoutarromantic5805]

Is there any Christian who's obsessed with Byzantium and the history of Christendom/Christianity in general, who would like to help me create an animation project about the history of Christendom/Christianity (Battle of Tours, Battle of Covadonga, Battle of Nineveh)? Movies/animes about Heraclius, Charlemagne, and many other heroes of Christendom... My discord is: Proletariado#4420 ADD ME

[@8kuji]

@@minoutarromantic5805 I am, it's seems very interesting, I've only gotten into it recently tho

[@8kuji]

Plus I've got no experience

[@user-bl2bb5yo9c]

It is Roman history.

[@evalationx2649]

The era of Helleno-Roman resurgence. Glorious.

[@mowm88]

Wellllllllllll. You did one showing the Byzantines winning! about time. Great job! Have always liked Phocas. Makes you wonder how things would have gone if he'd not been killed off, or if Tzimskis there had lived longer. Dynamic leaders both of them.

[@majorianus8055]

Theres not really he can do much at that time since he was too unpopular, one thing though is i wish his reforms of the church was implemented. In a way he was a crusader before it was cool, but the Orthodox clergy as a whole doesnt want the concept,

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

If Tzimiskes had lived a couple years more I think Basil II would’ve started his reign in a less rocky more secure place

[@miracleyang3048]

Saladin and Richard the Lionheart: who are you? Phokas and Sayf Al Dawla: we Are you but not so overrated by historians

[@fawadahmed9370]

We r ur daddy

[@andyd568]

Guys, be gratious, I think Fawad referred to "we" as the latter pairing of adversaries. We may have our individual sides but I think we're also all intelligent history lovers on this channel.

[@alexisdespland4939]

Phokas is more interesting than either of the other three because he established a famous line of several generations of Byzantine generals

[@alexisdespland4939]

who the heck was Sayf never heard about him? and neither has my spell checker.

[@SupremelyFly]

Both Richard and Saladin were virtuous and beloved by their people, during their life on earth and even to this day. Nicephoros and Sayf Al-Dawla used hype and propoganda to bolster their image and reputations. This came back to bite them near the end of their lives as their true characters were exposed and their people began to hate them. And their existence fell into obscurity after their deaths.

[@Vitalis94]

Ah, an entire video about Nikiphoros and a shoutout to History of Byzantium, too! Great, I really appreciate all your videos. One thing has to be said, though, although there are many historical channels and I love them all, they don't ever reach your attention to detail and focus. I particulary like your heavy usage of the primary sources, which isn't that common in the historical corner of KZbin.

[@ZeRo-bx7lp]

Yes, and few can make it all into a coherent and easy to follow story like him.

[@papageitaucher618]

Then you probably haven't checked out this series yet kzbin.info/aero/PLEQru6POYgetKOdzDYaLyjBkymSN9XeyY the most in depth approach on byzantine history there is on YT imo. Can only recommend

[@Adam-gk4lz]

@@papageitaucher618 that is most hardcore bisantine and diadocchi historycal channel imagineble. Unfortunately way to indepth to ever become popular on KZbin . But delivery is briliant there too.

[@SirThinksalot2023]

to reclaim the holy lands you must Phokas

[@sranvujnovic5409]

Beautiful. :D

[@alexisdespland4939]

lol

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

statue of liberty is ISIS

[@jackhakken]

@@MrNecryptic you Amd wattman?

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

Noice

[@vonzuchter]

Reason for the pretty much forgotten and ignored glorious 1000 year old byzantine history in the west has its roots in the mutual hate the two cultures had. Byzantines hated and dispized westerners and vice versa. This hatred was mutual and it also went to the medieval and also modern greeks to a point who were always not very favorable to the westerners. Byzantine empire was the shield of western civization for 1000 years. Fighting off huns , goths , vikings, avars , bulgarians , rus , persians , arabs , turks. 1000 years of epic war epic victories and epic defeats all almost unknown the the vast majority of westerners. Everyone knows for example Charles Martel ,hunderds of books , shows etc , taught in every school as a great victory over the muslim when in reality it was a small insignificant battle against a small raiding party. At the same time Byzantines were fighting an epic 400 years war the Arabs with epic battles naval battles sieges , hugr armies and cost, while everybody knows Poitiers few know about the epic second siege of Constantinople and the destruction of the Arabs a military defeat and catastrophe that was never matched in muslim history until the era of the mongols invasions. 120000 men dead , 2560 ships sunk, the victory that truly saved europe and stoped arab expansion. Who knows about the epic byzantine-arab wars except history fanatics? 400 years , and who knows about the 1000 year of the eastern roman/bynantine against the persians? few people... but all know about wars in europeb, 100 years was for example , or Charlomagne etc. Its about time western historiography introduces to the masses byzantine history. It truly epic and an important part of the western culture. Even in Greece which is a huge part of our history and culture , byzantine history is not taught much. Its all about ancient and hellenistic stuff and then straight to late middle ages and then modern greece.

[@chuckles5689]

Byzantine history is generally more confusing with more frequent civil wars and rebellions within the empire, as well as extreme corruption which was the bane of its existence.

[@kpetalis]

@@chuckles5689 Not really. That's a misconception that was proposed by the western powers in order to minimize the importance of the Eastern Roman empire. The Empire was the single, most powerful nation in the world up until 1204 when Constantinople fell to the Crusaders. After that it was a losing battle until it finally fell in 1453 to the Turks. Now you'll ask why they hated the Eastern Roman Empire so much. It was because the legitimacy of their rule, particularly of the Holy Roman Emperors, was dependent, no matter if they wanted to or not, on the fact that the Eastern Roman EMPEROR recognized them or not. And that was something that they had to acquire by marrying Roman Princesses. So, in reality all the royal houses of Europe, for more than a 1000 years did their very best to marry Romans princesses and unofficially paid homage to the Roman Emperor in order to legitimize their rule. Byzantium is considered one the most, if not the most, successful empire in the world because it managed to do what other empires could not. It's citizens felt they were Romans. The civil wars you mentioned were nothing more than wars of succession, a mad grab for power by powerful nobles. But not even once there was in more than 1100 years a civil war that led to any part of the empire to secede. And that is what's incredible.

[@chuckles5689]

@@kpetalis It isn't a "misconception", it is a fact. Most powerful nation in the world is subjective, and there are obvious contenders to that claim from the Islamic caliphates and China. The Fourth Crusade was done by westerners on the behest of a pretender(Alexios IV), who the Greeks deposed and killed. The prior emperor was Alexios III, who took the throne by deposing and blinding Isaac II, his younger brother. The Latins saw the death of Alexios IV (at the hands of Alexios V) as the Greeks murdering their rightful liege. An aristocrat (Alexios V) became Emperor after deposing Alexios IV, and the crusaders were still unpaid, leading to the Sack of Constantinople among a string of other more complicated events which I do not wish to delve into. The decline you are referencing did not start during the Fourth Crusade, but with the fall of the Komnenian Dynasty and their replacement by the Angelos. The Holy Roman Emperor was clearly not dependent on the Byzantines in any way, and were more or less recognized by the Latin West and by the Papacy, without regard for the Byzantines. I don't know what nations you are referring to paid homage to the Byzantine Empire, the Latin vassals around Antioch? The Byzantine Empire was not a tremendously successful empire and was beset by corruption and constant infighting and strife, it's longevity is owed to coincidence, the existing Roman system, and yes, the revival periods of some good emperors, such as John II and Manuel.

[@RandomGuy-df1oy]

@@kpetalis "The Empire was the single, most powerful nation in the world up until 1204 " is wrong as fuck. Byzantines never became that strong. They lost most of their empire to Arabs. They defeated by the nomads and paid tribute to them. Yet they still managed to recover until they got smashed by the Seljuks in 1071. They were not even strongest state in Southeastern Europe.

[@chuckles5689]

@@RandomGuy-df1oy Byzantophiles conveniently seem to forget just how often the Byzantines had to pay tribute, from the Hunnic invasions all the way to the Ottomans.

[@CalebColeTrain]

I manage a small warehouse on my own and I just wanted to say thank you for keeping me company. Your videos are very much appreciated!

[@schwerergustav.]

This is my dream job.

[@chris-qe4yc]

Oh done beautifully ,,, greetings from Greece specially from Crete and Cyprus, the crown jewels of Greek Byzantium at eastern Mediterranean sea to this day !

[@cormacmcquillan828]

There was no Greek byzantium. It was the Roman Empire.

[@Panos_Stayis]

@@cormacmcquillan828 go tell this to Gibbon 😂

[@cormacmcquillan828]

@@Panos_Stayis I mean everyone knows they had a Greek consciousness. But legally it was still the legit Roman empire. They were all too aware of their Greek heritage, but their political tradition and culture was Roman.

[@gilpaubelid3780]

@@cormacmcquillan828 Their culture has always been Greek not roman (even before the fall of the western part) . The state and institutions were indeed Roman since the greeks preserved them. But saying that there was no Greek Byzantium considering that the people in charge were the Greeks (not the old Romans), that the ethnic group that had the central role was the Greeks , the prevelant culture was the Greek culture, the lingua franca was Greek , and the education was Greek as well, is kind of a stretch. Essentially the Roman empire transformed into a Greek empire but if we want to be accurate we could call Byzantium a Greco-Roman empire (even if the old Romans didn't have anything to do with it anymore) .

[@cormacmcquillan828]

@@gilpaubelid3780 There was no such thing as old Romans. Roman civilisation was Greeco Roman, they mixed Latin with Greek. When the Greek speaking provinces were conquered the Romans changed almost nothing. They let the same systems of government exist and never made an attempt to Latinise these areas because well, they were already Roman. Calling it "Greek Byzantium" is both historically and culturally incorrect because it came from a different tradition than being simply "Greek". Same way modern Britain comes form a tradition different from the Medieval English kingdom. Modern Italy also comes from a different tradition than classical Rome, a much different one.

[@olefredrikskjegstad5972]

A solid 'epilogue' to the other side of the Abbasid Revolution vid you just made. Great work.

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

These readings really elucidate relationships in modern Turkey. One would never know how many distinct groups (tribes and linguistic groups) have fought for a place or for autonomy in the Black Sea region. It's mind blowing.

[@aokiaoki4238]

On Phokas grave it was written "He won everybody, appart a woman"

[@ezzovonachalm7534]

Another legend. Nikephoros had a first spouse he loved profoundly but she died too soon.Since this loss NP was not interested anymore in women.He married the widowed Basilissa of Romanos II to protect their two sons who had already been inthronised ( Basileios II and Konstantinos VIII).The basilissa was a beautyfull woman but ΝΦ did not approach her. Tzimiskes ,the assassin of NΦ miraculously did not massacrate the two heirs. Basileios II, one of the greatest emperors of the AMORID ( not macedonian) dynasty succeded him togheter with his brother Konstantinos VIII who administrated the empire, whereas Basileios II fought the B' lgurs and the türks to reestablish the frontiers of the EREmpire.

[@FOOKYOUTUBENUMBERS]

​@@ezzovonachalm7534 Didn't You watch this video??? He's just gave You this info, give Your fingers a rest blatant plagiarism.

[@KowboyUSA]

Tenth Century D-Day invasion with landing craft and works. Amazing!

[@aokiaoki4238]

You know Byzantine were the first army did landings from the ships on their horses ready for attack, from a door open down like todays ships. They were also the first army trained on similar theatres before battle in order to be fast and accurate

[@anon-iraq2655]

Wait you didnt think americans invented beach landing did you haha

[@jeto9625]

@@aokiaoki4238 In short: They were the best guys around.

[@deadnextdoor1]

I love the byzantines. Alexios Komnenos is deff worth talking about.

[@issith7340]

Alexios Komninòs

[@LondonPower]

i am byzantine from Anatolia

[@jon_007]

So does John Komnenos his son and Basil I the Macedonian

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

There were no Byzantines. They were Romans.

[@deadnextdoor1]

Yup your right the Byzantines called themselves Romans as they should. Sadly most westerns have no clue there one of the same so for simplicity reasons the name Byzantine exists.

[@madsdahlc]

Hallo from Denmark . Once again you deliver another great video . And this time I learned something byzantine history and Nikephoros II Phokas . Thank you very much sir . I just expanded my knowlege . But the Capital of byzantine Empire(modern dat Istanbul ) has a very origins . It ess settled around as colony from the Greek citystate of megara around 685 bce . And it properbly as transit port of the Greek Trade with the Black sea. The Black sea region was a very importent trading area for the ancient greeks . As main Greece has only a few fertile areas . Where crops like grain Can grow ... Since its 80-90 procent mountains . But its perfect for grapes and Olives. So Wine snd olive Oil was ancient greece’s main exports. In Black sea region on Russian plain (and on the crimea) lived the scytians. The scytians were also ahead of their time in matters equal rigths . As scytian women coud fight in armies as soldiers abd became clan cheiftains . They were s nomadic people . They lived in different tribes . Now the scytians were fond Greek Wine and weapons . And the greeks were very interested in in wheat and grain ... So symbiotic relationship happended between greeks and the nomadic scytians .... Scytian cheiftains allowed the greeks found colonies on their land .... And since the scytians lived a tribal/clan society . The some had war with each other or raids . That resulted in a lot prisoners. And many of prisoners were offen sold as slaves to the greeks . In the City state of Athens scytians slaves were used as a police force .... So many Greek Trade ships sailed back and forth between Greece and the Black region ... Also Many Greek merchants had personal relations with scytian cheiftains . And many Greek colonists were married into scytian families. So the local scytian cheiftains were not just the local tradepartner. For many of the Greek traders. He or she was also father/mother in law ... The Black sea region (and also egypt) was on of ancient greece imported grain / wheat and slaves from. And this is why the Greek colonies of byzantion and chalcedon (the two towns today make make up modern day City of Istanbul ) was a founded They were transit ports for Black sea trade. And later when the roman Constatine the great make his Capital . The City grew in importence . And when the eastern roman Empire became byzantine Empire . The City continued to the Capital of that Empire ....

[@user-bl2bb5yo9c]

Constantinople (New Rome), aside from sharing just some of the previous geographic location of prior Byzantium, was a totally different city from Byzantium. So much as Istanbul today is different from Constantinople.

[@ZeRo-bx7lp]

Thanks for covering this. One of my favourite periods of history. Love your channel and I hope you keep growing.

[@imperator7828]

I always loved your channel because it shed light on the most (wrongfully) forgotten historical periods! I must congratulate you on this wonderful video and your research :)

[@Fenniks-]

i can feel that Basil the bulgar slayer is getting closer now :P

[@davimattos7081]

Waiting for THAT mess to begin!

[@dimitar_I]

nicephoros the drinking cup is more interesting

[@byzantinetales]

Unless Nicephorus was killed there would be no Basil II

[@camcamscrashcourses6223]

You do just beautiful work.Well narrated and written.With outstanding visual accompaniments and maps.Thank you !

[@thcdreams654]

History of Byzantium is great. You do fantastic work too Pete. Starting to dig into your personal channels videos too.

[@imedmeghraoui797]

Great video as always! Keep the astonishing work !

[@MS-ys6vj]

Love the background music you use for your videos, it really sets the mood for the times. Great video overall.

[@spyroskamilalis2515]

Great video, amazing work! Bravo sir! Keep the good juices of Romeosyne flowing!

[@MrThatguyuknow]

I really appreciate the audio mixing of this video, really works with rather than against the content. Both loud and quiet in just the right spots. Too many documentaries with good content are spoiled by distracting audio.

[@alexiospapadopoulos620]

Great vid! Glory to Byzantium! P.S his name is pronunciated Nikeph'oros Phokas

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

More like ''Nee kee pho ros''

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

dude's you're not getting it.. It's "#fuckers" meet the fuckers. God protect you children . piece from upsidedowndy australia. Ps the moon landings was just another one of their faked news events

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

Never was a Byzantium besides the ancient Greek city-state of Byzantium. It was the Roman Empire.

[@user-bl2bb5yo9c]

Δόξα στην Ρωμαϊκή Αυτοκρατορία ήθελες να πεις; Δεν υπήρχε ποτέ Βυζαντινή Αυτοκρατορία. Και για του λόγου το αληθές, οι κάτοικοι της αρχαίας πόλεως-κράτους του Βυζαντίου αυτοπροσδιορίζονταν ως Βυζάντιοι και το επίθετο για το Βυζάντιον ήταν . Ο όρος Βυζαντινός ήταν καταφάνεστατα ανθελληνικό εφεύρημα των Γερμανών που ήθελαν να ιδιοποιηθούν το εθνωνύμιο Ρωμαίος αλλά εντέλει απέτυχαν τραγικώς.

[@Slimc74]

Excellent. You read and the words appear as if im watching it in my mind. Thank god im listening and seeing today, instead of observing and living then. Brutal....

[@Uncle_Fred]

Been on vacation so I'm late to the party. Wow! This was your best narrative yet. Gripping, fascinating and tragic. Thanks for the podcast recommendation, I was really hoping we'd get this. I'm still working my way through the History of Rome podcast, but look forward to this one next.

[@RyanSmith-ye4vj]

@historytime thanks again for your amazing videos 👍👍

[@aaronherman6396]

Excellent video!!! I am currently reading Gibbon, but I am about six hundred years prior to your video. I love the in-depth preview you provide. Respectfully...

[@IcedSynergy]

History of byzantium is one of the first history podcasts I listened to! Such a great show! Love seeing it getting more publicity :)

[@MariaCKouto]

Wonderful video. Everyday we learn a little more. Thanks for sharing 😍👍

[@briancameron5988]

Beautifully done yet again!

[@batman4329]

I’m happy that I’ve found this channel. Very interesting and well done. I am too lazy to do the hard work and read the history books. Thank you

[@patmorris9692]

Nikephoros Phokas had a keen ability to focus on his strategy.

[@davidgonzalez-herrera2980]

Just found your channel. This is going to be good. I agree with everyones comments. A lot of detail and sources. Nice job

[@davidgonzalez-herrera2980]

GOOD MUSIC TO

[@byzantinetales]

Well narrated documentary! And great use of Skylitzes miniatures!!

[@historicalminds6812]

Dude this was absolutely beautiful. You are so underrated I wished you had millions of subscribers; so many more people would be interested in history if it were presented the way you do. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@christoabbe]

Dude you're videos are unreal. They are so good! And long.....wow

[@gregspoony7691]

Every time I play Attila total war I play as the great purple NATION!! GLORY TO THE EMPIRE!!

[@Yukatoshi]

Haha. My username on many services etc is a Byzantine general lol.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

@koksal ceylan oof

[@mikek.s1707]

@koksal ceylan yeah ottomans great empire remembered for.......... ??????? stealing maybe i guess

[@RandomGuy-df1oy]

@@mikek.s1707 When Romans do it its conquest. When Ottomans do it its "stealing" No hypocracy for sure :P

[@mikek.s1707]

@@RandomGuy-df1oy culture survives,and ppl after romans , but after turks nothing survives

[@chrisd997]

Astonishing work !huge respect ✊

[@PetarEconomics]

Absolutely phenomenal video.

[@livewithapurpose5651]

Excellent video and narration Kindly keep with this work Your channel is a blessing for history enthusiasts like us 🙏🙏👌👌👌

[@badtexasbill5261]

I checked out that podcast. It's a gold mine!

[@kapoioskanenas2337]

Nicephoros come from the greek νίκη=win and φέρω=bring which put together means he who brings the win (he who leads to win)

[@annalouux8553]

yes he who brings victory

[@ayonio5723]

Great content, thank you!

[@princekalender2154]

Just in time for my birthday, amazing! Thanks dude!

[@Sebastianek1990]

Love it !

[@ragael1024]

in the times when Western Europe was still gathering itself from, first, the fall of the Western half of the Roman Empire, then, The fall of the Carolingian Empire... the Eastern Romans/byzantines were getting beaten up left right and center. but also... they were learning. after a major restructuring of their society, following the loss of important Syria and crucial Egypt, the byzantines finaly had enough manpower an resources to go on the offensive. with the Caliphate in pieces, and talented generals leading their armies, the eastern romans were kicking serious ass. make no mistake: to be called "the Pale Death of the Saracens" is seriously BADASS, medieval style.

[@alorikkoln]

Well explained and easy to follow, because you often repeat yourself which sort of acts like a reminder of what you said earlier. Others don't repeat themselves and so the listener gets confused.

[@gregrefon]

I got my cousins children hooked on history. On behalf of you.. I do thank you a lot.

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I've tried the great courses plus and I couldn't relax and enjoy it. I could enjoy it but I felt the need to take notes.

[@harisabbasi8396]

Great videos all of them. There are very few videos on my ancestors thr abbasids and yours is by far the most honest and detailed. Can you make one on Ruknuddin baybars who fought the french mongols and the crusaders

[@harisabbasi8396]

@@allan7380 the french, mongols and crusaders

[@goon143]

I was looking up who St Margret of Antioch and well there's not much on Wikipedia but it's all Grade A Awesome. I know saints aren't your usual thing but I reckon she'd be a great subject for a video and even if you're too busy the wiki page alone is worth a read. I love your videos by the way.

[@moutsatsosa]

Great details,well done.I would like to see an episode dedicated to the last,tragic,Emperor of Byzantine.

[@VladTevez]

Kudos!

[@vangelisskia214]

"The Byzantine empire was clearly, despite its multinational dimension, a GREEK empire while its neighbours considered it so, and whose unity was based on the power of authority, in the dominance of Orthodoxy and the use of Greek as the official language." Sylvain Gouguenheim, "La gloire des Grecs", 2017, pp. 73

[@-Blast]

The Byzantine empire is the Roman empire. It’s not Greek. They saw themselves as Romans plain and simple.

[@vangelisskia214]

@@-Blast "Romans were neither Greek nor Italian, specifically. "Roman" had always been a rather general term, applying not to a specific race or ethnic group and instead to those with Roman CITIZENSHIP, born in a Roman province, or those who reflected the characteristics of Roman people." - Greg Woolf "After the Empire lost non-Greek speaking territories IN THE 7th AND 8th CENTURIES, "Greek" (Ἕλλην), when not used to signify "pagan", became synonymous with "Roman" (Ῥωμαῖος) and "Christian" (Χριστιανός) to mean a Christian Greek citizen of the [Eastern] Roman Empire." "Roman, GREEK (if not used in its sense of 'pagan') and Christian became SYNONYMOUS terms, counter-posed to 'foreigner', 'barbarian', 'infidel'. The citizens of the Empire, now predominantly of GREEK ethnicity and language, were often called simply ό χριστώνυμος λαός 'the people who bear Christ's name'." Harrison, Thomas (2002). Greeks and Barbarians. New York: Routledge., p. 268 In the "Souda" Lexicon written (10th century) Graikos=Hellene and also Graikos=Romaios [Graikoi (plural) =Hellenes (plural) (Γραικοί : Οι Έλληνες. Εκ του Γραίξ, Γραικός.) and Raikos=Rhomaios (Ῥαικός : Ρωμαίος)] In the "Zonaras" Lexicon (12th century) Romaios=Graikos=Hellene. [Graikoi (plural) = Hellenes (plural) (Γραικοί. οἱ Ελληνες. ἀπὸ κώμης τινός. παρὰ τὸ ῥαῖσαι ῥαικὸς καὶ γραικός. καὶ γὰρ διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἀνδρείαν οἱ Ελληνες ουτως ἐκαλοῦντο.) and Raikos=Rhomaios=Graikos (Ραικός. ὁ ̔Ρωμαῖος. ̓Επίχαρμος· φιλεῖ ειναι γραικὸς, ἀποβολῇ τοῦ ˉγ ῥαικός.)] In other words according to the lexica of that period : Rhomaios (Roman) =Raikos (Greek) =Graikos (Greek) =Hellene (Greek) But then I guess you don't even have a clue what the Souda or Zonaras Lexica even are... "As heirs to the Greeks and Romans of old, the Byzantines thought of themselves as Rhomaioi, or Romans, though THEY KNEW FULL WELL that they were ETHNICALLY GREEKS." (see also: Savvides & Hendricks 2001) Niehoff 2012, Margalit Finkelberg, "Canonising and Decanonising Homer: Reception of the Homeric Poems in Antiquity and Modernity", p. 20 or Pontificium Institutum Orientalium Studiorum 2003, p. 482

[@vangelisskia214]

@@-Blast "With the collapse of the empire in the west, its eastern counterpart became, in reality, an entirely new and independent state, at once Greek by language and Roman in name: 'A Greek Roman empire'." Roderick Beaton, "The Greeks: a global history", New York: Basic books 2021, pp. 212 "It may be said, however, that despite its multi-national character, three forces tended to give it unity. One was Orthodoxy, the other a common language, and the third the imperial tradition. The first and the second were Greek and to the extent that they were Greek the Empire was Greek also. The third was Roman, and to that extent the Empire was also Roman." The Transfer of Population as a Policy in the Byzantine Empire Author(s): Peter Charanis Source: Comparative Studies in Society and History, Vol. 3, No. 2, (Jan., 1961), pp. 140-154 Published by: Cambridge University Press

[@vangelisskia214]

@@-Blast "…That in the race of us the Hellenes, wisdom reigns" ‘ὅτι τε ἐν τῷ γένει τῶν Ἑλλήνων ἡμῶν ἡ σοφία βασιλεύει’ Emperor John III Doukas Vatatzes (1193-1254) to Pope Gregorio IX "the HELLENIC RACE looms over all other languages" and that "every kind of philosophy and form of knowledge is a discovery of Hellenes […]. What do you, O Italian, have to display?" " 'Ἁπασῶν γλωσσῶν τὸ ἑλληνικὸν ὑπέρκειται γένος… Πᾶσα τοίνυν φιλοσοφία καὶ γνῶσις Ἑλλήνων εὕρεμα… Σὺ δὲ ὦ Ἰταλέ, τίνος ἕνεκεν ἐγκαχαῦσαι;’ Theodore II Laskaris (1254-1258), Christian Theology, 7 f "Let us remember of what men we are descendants of, and if one wishes to refer to our oldest ancestors, refer to the old Hellenes....and refer to the ancient Romans, from whom we are named after....However our origins lie in both of these genes...we are the heirs of Alexander the Great and his successors" Manuel Chrysochloras, "Peri tou Basileus ton Romaion" Epistule XLIX "Present your shield, swords, arrows, and spears to them, imagining that you are a hunting party after wild boars, so that the impious may learn that they are dealing not with d*mb animals but with their lords and masters, THE DESCENDANTS OF THE HELLENES (GREEKS) AND THE ROMANS." Constantine Palaologos XI speaks in front of his officers and allies before the final siege of Constantinople by the Ottoman Sultan Mehmed Bey George Sprantzes - The Fall of the Byzantine Empire 1453 - primary source from the war. "Καὶ οὕτως λογίσθητε ὡς ἐπὶ ἀγρίων χοίρων καὶ πληθὺν κυνήγιον, ἵνα γνώσωσιν οἱ ἀσεβεῖς ὅτι οὐ μετὰ ἀλόγων ζῴων ὡς αὐτοί, παράταξιν ἔχουσιν, ἀλλὰ μετὰ κυρίων καὶ αὐθεντῶν αὐτῶν καὶ ἀπογόνων ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ καὶ Ῥωμαίων." Ὁμιλία τοῦ Αὐτοκράτορα Κωνσταντίνου ΙΑ’ Παλαιολόγου πρὶν τὴν ἅλωση τῆς ΚωνσταντινουπόλεωςἈπὸ τὸ Χρονικὸν τοῦ Μεγάλου Λογοθέτη Γεωργίου Σφραντζῆ ἢ Φραντζῆ Ἐκδοθὲν ἐν Κερκύρᾳ ἔτει 1477

[@that4711]

The Byzantine empire in its 1000 years of existence acted as a shield to Europe. They fought against so many invaders. Their legacy lives on!

[@anon-iraq2655]

Europe is a modern geopolitical concept, much of byzentine history was spent fighting off what you would now call europeans

[@yusuffulat6954]

Yeah and in 1204 the ‘Europeans’ stabbed the Byzantines in the back when they sacked Constantinople. History does not work the way you think it works. Ironically one of the biggest threats to the byzantines were the catholics.

[@aokiaoki4238]

1100 years

[@aokiaoki4238]

Actually the defence of Europe starts in Marathon. When Persians were an Athenian general sugest to follow them and kill them. Athenians then agree to not disturb them and let them pass to Asia from Thrace, because their big number might change direction and destroy the people of Europe.

[@aokiaoki4238]

Byzantines were also fighting for Europe. Holy land is the strategical key point to Europe thats why Europe is Christian and beleive is the grave of Christ and Muslims beleive is the passage to heaven

[@ssgar6191]

Great video

[@Omegaeon1]

Excellent as usual

[@mohamedred5746]

Fatimids were Probable the Worst "Caliphate" Of all Times

[@zohebalikhan7404]

@@mohamedred5746 Why? They fought against the Byzantines, who would've taken most of Syria had they not defeated them in numerous naval and land engagements.

[@birnamwoodfan]

The history of Byzantium podcast is fantastic. He’s taking a break now and I’m waiting for him to come back.

[@tannisbhee7444]

Robin Pierson and Mike Duncan are two of my favorite podcasters.

[@graeco-romanandbyzantinehi9957]

I'm remarkably impressed by your accuracy and style; I'm fairly pedantic about the life of Nikephoros so the only-few remarks I'm leaving below are evidence that you've done a really excellent job here. You do use the phrase that Nikephoros was "undefeated" and then mention a defeat under his father in 954. Furthermore, you've highlighted Marash A.D. 953 as the reason for Bardas' dismissal, whilst downplaying Adata A.D. 954. John Tzimiskes first recorded actions were in A.D. 956, not A.D. 955, and led to a stinging Roman defeat against Sayf al-Dawla. Sayf al-Dawla wasn't watching from the Aleppine citadel, as Aleppo was sacked. al-Shimishati and Yahya of Antioch record that Sayf fled to Balis, having suffered defeats under the vangaurd force, led by Tzimiskes, who pursued him. Your record of the 965 taking of Tarsos doesn't quite follow my understanding from Leo the Deacon. The Tarsiot citizens were forced to convert, die or *allowed leave with their possessions*. Aleppo only became a Byzantine protectorate in early 970, rather than in 967, after Sayf al-Dawla's death, although a similar outcome was inevitable by then.

[@atrides7]

The best video !!!! And the best channel !!!! You are from few channels who writes so good subjects for one of the most interesting periods the war between Muslim and byzantine christianity !!! Of my bottom of my heart thank you !!!! Thank you sir!!!

[@erichewes3288]

The history of Byzantium is absolutely fantastic, everyone really should check it out.

[@almyska467]

Great video! Lots of info about this time period to which I hadn't yet been exposed. One small nitpick. At ~17:45 you say "gave himself up the the aesthetic life", while the caption describes Ascetic Life. Aesthetic and ascetic are opposites. Yeah, I know it's a tiny thing. Keep up the good work. You keep making vids and I'll keep watching them.

[@ajseek]

Awsome video, (this is coming from a saracen) really awsome keep up the good work 👍 Please cover the islamic conquests too as there were many great generals also! Much respect for your work

[@zippyparakeet1074]

Haha, don't call yourself a Saracen friend we are not the same as those who lived 1,000 years ago.

[@giokun100]

On his grave there was the inscription ''He defeated everyone except for a woman''.

[@thomasdavison7184]

I love your videos.

[@debcamp2359]

Awesome!

[@steveswitzer4353]

Superb first class

[@Pincer88]

Compliments on another well made video, that must have taken a lot of time and effort to make. And about a very interesting period indeed (I've devoured Tom Holland's books about this period (Canossa and the Fourth Beast). I'm quite interested in that Eunuch Petros. He sounds like some sort of Rasputin, side lining the most competent and trusted aids of Nicepheros and alienating them from him. Like he seemed to be doing did when Nicepheros was denied his triumph parade. Is there any indication in literature that this man held grudges of sorts or could have been a mol? Also I'd be interested to learn why NIcepheros developed as a tyrant the way he did. Were there rational considerations underlying his unpopular moves? Were his taxes and the constant (threat) of war and ongoing campaigns too much for the Byzantines? Final observation. If historian Paul Kennedy was right, the Byzantine empire could never have survived in the long run, having to fence off too many threats on too many fronts, thus suffering what Kennedy calls imperial overstretch. Yet somehow the empire managed to survive as long as it did. How? Where did it get the resources needed to keep a military in place, that had fended off so many enemies (more or less succesfully) for so long? I'd love to hear some suggestions from you for further reading. Kind regards from the Netherlands (and yes, also a History with Hilbert addict, albeit not so overly chauvinistic ;) )

[@HabboCoolcattim]

20:04 Wait wait wait wait Bardas was 90 years old?? Jeezz

[@MrFusionCube]

Legend has it that Nicephoros Phokas will respond if you post early within the hour!

[@Yukatoshi]

Only if you send to 10 other people.

[@1998topornik]

"Pale Death of Saracens" - very metal nickname

[@aggelosmaravas7211]

I just so happen to come from the city of Chandax (Now called Heraclion) and I can tell you with absolute certainty that some of the buildings shown in the video (for example the shipyard in min. 4:57 - 5:00) can indeed be found in the city, but belong to a later period, the one that Crete was in the sphere of infuence of Venice (13th-17th century). These buildings along with the walls of the city (that survive through this day) were amongst the finest of their time, since they also withstood the longest siege in history, the "Siege of Candia" (another name of the city) that lasted from 1645 to 1669. Of course this is an honest mistake and I don't mean to criticise. I just mention this becouse the buildings shown create an image of technologican advancement on behalf of the arabs that was completely absent at that time at all.

[@aokiaoki4238]

The Cretans are very badass. Cretan hold the only tower in Constantinople the ottomans couldn't siege long after the city fell. Finally Sultan ask them to leave keeping their belongings horses and ships. The left armed with ottomans open their way upnto their ships.

[@aggelosmaravas7211]

@@aokiaoki4238 you should see what they did in ww1..

[@aokiaoki4238]

@@aggelosmaravas7211 I know...

[@kaloarepo288]

I believe Crete only returned to Greece from the Ottoman Empire in the very early twentieth century as result of the Balkan Wars.Actually the siege of Candia was the second longest in history -the longest was that of Ceuta in Morocco.(Wikipedia)The great painter El Greco was born in Crete during the Venetian period -moved to Venice and eventually to Spain.

[@aggelosmaravas7211]

@@kaloarepo288 I'm afraid you are wrong on the siege part ( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Candia ) according to wikipedia.. On your other two points you are right.. Although Greece gained independence from the ottomans in 1830 Crete had to wait untill the end of the 1st Balkan war on 1912. And yes El Greco was from Candia

[@wanahmad7100]

Byzantine emperor eh? That's new P/S love your works. Few channels touch this kind of topic

[@rush4in]

He made a video on Alexios Komnenos a year or so ago

[@user-ym4jl5gv5r]

Who wants a tv show based on Nikephoros or Justinian or anything related to Eastern Rome ( Which I view as the underrated brother of the Western Roman Empire) other than 1453 siege. I just don’t get why Hollywood hates Eastern Rome so much

[@dimalex8]

Plus the history of eastern Roman empire is notorious of containing so much intrigue, betrayals, tragedies and politics that would make game of thrones look like a cartoon. If you put in the mix the heorism and the epicness of some of the emperors and generals, it's buffing they didn't make a series yet. You can follow families, like the Lekapenos, Komnenos, Doukas, Phokas, Melissenos, Diogenoi and many more that had highs and lows, that fought to gain power or fought to protect the empire. You can also follow dynasties, or individual characters. And none of them is completely black or white, rather shades of gray. Such a big potential, the dream of every screen writer

[@rzomg]

Love this

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

Always love more stories about the Byzantine Empire

[@Ejosii]

Love the content. Did you manually paint in Crete on the map at 28:38 ?

[@w.l.6258]

Very good video. but could you name the title of the music you use especially the first one of the documentary ? Thx.

[@ModernDayRenaissanceMan]

Yayyy its beer thirty & History Time!

[@majorianus8055]

Byzantine history is totally underrated. Im surprised this video is one of the least views when Nikephoros Phokas is one of the best military commanders of his age.

[@scrutinizer0136]

A couple of remarks: "infidels" is the term not used in Christian theology; "infidels" is a ☪ invention. ☪ imposed "jeezrah", the tax, on Christians and Jews. The latter had to put the famous 6 point star, "David's star" on their clothes to appear as a distinct category to ☪. The siege of Crete was violent just as much as the ☪ aggression of the previous 4 centuries was, so on Crete, the ☪ got what they deserved. The ☪ aggression pre-dated the Crusades which were a direct consequence. It was the ☪ who attacked Christian pilgrim caravans, not the knights attacking ☪ caravans.

[@momoffour5885]

Wrong infidels is a term used by the Christian world. Infidels is not a term found in Quran. Infidels was used to describe the Muslims.

[@gaiusflaminius4861]

@@momoffour5885 Could you cite a Christian book, any other document, or declaration by Christian kings where the word "infidel" was used? On the contrary, could you cite Quran or any other Islam documents either by mullahs or Muslim rulers where, as you say, there weren't any mentions of ? الجهاد,كافر

[@thegreatpoop1150]

@@gaiusflaminius4861sure we use infidel on pagans and we call everyone who isn’t Christian a pagan no matter the religion we call Muslims and Jews pagan we call them infidel as well just look into our akathists and other prayers you will see the use of infidel

[@gaiusflaminius4861]

@@thegreatpoop1150 Really? Cite the references. I'd be curious to read.

[@3452te]

Why...why am i late. But amazing video. It'll be epic to see a complete video from the Roman Kingdom, Roman Republic, Roman Empire (including Eastern/byzantine & Western halves).

[@user-vh6gw1hr6c]

I wonder how the wheel of history would have turned if my country of Bulgaria and the Byzantines managed to set their differences aside and unite in a holy alliance :) Would we have survived longer by standing together against the Turks? Would we have been able to withstand against Wester influence? How would our nations look like today? I love history.

[@dimalex8]

They would be very hard to stop if they were united. Probably the Roman empire would survive, the Greek culture and know how along with the Bulgarian manpower would be more than enough to stop the loss of Anatolia. Especially the Bulgarian military which had a much more similar and suited fighting against the Arabs or Turks would really help. That set aside, I believe the Bulgarians would be assimilated more and the character of the empire would not be an equal fusion, rather a 70% Greek and 30% Bulgarian in terms of culture, language and attitude. Of course these are anachronisms and today we would call ourselves Romans rather our Greek or Bulgarian nationalities. History is really interesting, always wondered what would happen if the Doukas family didn't withdraw the troops they commanded, betraying and leaving emperor Romanos Diogenis alone with his guard against Turks in Mantzikert. Or the other Byzantine general who was supposed to attack from the rear but got lost and never made the battlefield. We would probably never had turkey as we know it. Turks got into Balkans due to the civil war in Byzantium, as the Komnenos dynasty proved later with much much fewer resources, they were not hard to beat if there was a smart and strong leadership. Though they had amazing scouts and spies and knew exactly when to attack and retreat, when to be friendly and hostile. That's how they conquered all Balkans while the Balkan countries were fighting each other or with themselves. Or what if Vladimir of Kiev converted to islam, as he was torn between Christianity and Islam, we would have muslim russian people.

[@wankawanka3053]

Then the balkans would only consist of bulgaria and eastern rome to this day😆

[@roscosisco1276]

I've always been fascinated with the byzantium empire,it still amazes me tho how such a strong empire for so long can be just stamped out of existence completely.

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

It was the Roman Empire. From 27 BC until 1453 AD. Never existed such a thing as the Byzantine Empire! Only Romans and Rome.

[@roscosisco1276]

@@legioromanaxvii7644 er..i know 'byzantium' or 'byzantine' empire is the modern name given to the Eastern roman empire,everyone who follows this channel or has the slightest interest in the roman empire would know that.

[@dete31]

If the 4th crusade never happened (or if it just wasn't such a damn mess), it would have continued to last for centuries. Such a shame, really.

[@miracleyang3048]

Btw Sayf Al Dawla was his title meaning "Sword of the (Abbasid) State" Those kind of titles were very common during the Abbasid era were you can notice that all the Abbasid caliphs used a title like Saffah or Al-Mansor unlike the Umayyads and Rashidun who simply used their names There were other titles given by the Caliphs to famous generals or rulers who considered him as their religious head Like the title Saladin (the good of the Religion) to the famous conqueror of Jerusalem and the title Rokndinn (the corner of religion) to the Mameluke sultan Baibers

[@anon-iraq2655]

Din is better translated as faith not as religion, even tho it does mean religion in other context

[@patmorris9692]

Arabs be like: "Oh sh....! Here come Nikephoros. He gonna "phoc" us again!"

[@namelessboar]

@East Lol Nikephoros II Phokas ruled 150+ years after Nikephoros I

[@ProjectRedfoot]

4:47 *WOW.*

[@popkaZG]

I love you History time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jobicchakalisa7568]

yo..you are a great orator. i got work, so holla at your boy

[@christospanagopoulos5821]

So good!! Greets from Greece!!!

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

He was Roman. Not Greek.

[@christospanagopoulos5821]

@@legioromanaxvii7644 of course he was Roman citizen, but was Greek, so what. Most byzantines were Greek. That doesn't mean they were not Roman.

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

@@christospanagopoulos5821 Greek how? Just curious what you mean. If you could define that. He was a Greek-speaking Roman. He was of indigenous Anatolian Cappadocian descent. Probably a product of intermingling between Armenians, Latins, Anatolians and who know, but a little Greek. But definitely not a Greek.

[@christospanagopoulos5821]

@@legioromanaxvii7644 Armenians were speaking Armenian, Latins Latin, cappadocians and anatolians were Greek even before Alexander. He was Greek speaking, but he was Latin Armenian,... Ok...

[@legioromanaxvii7644]

@@christospanagopoulos5821 You do know that this is false, right? Latin was the lingua franca in the West. Many millions of foreigners learned it. That is why so many Romance nations exist today, as well as Latino nations in the Americas. Greek was also a lingua franca in the East. Before the Arabs and Turks invaded the Eastern Empire, many tens of millions of foreigners learned Greek. That in no way goes to show that they are Greek. There were many Armenians, Cappadocian Anatolians and other groups who had willingly learned to speak Greek in Eastern Roman Empire. So I will ask you again in a friendly way, what is your definition of Greek? Because Nicephorus I Phocas was of Arabic descent from southern Cappadocian province. Nicephorus II was likely a mixed person. Neither of them had a Greek identity. They saw themselves as legitimate Romans. Just saying.... Post Scriptum: the Roman province of Cappadocia did not become fully Greek-speaking until the 4th century AD. 600 years after Alexander. So no, Cappadocia was never a fully Greek place. There were indigenous Cappadocians there, Persians, Latins, Greeks and later Arabs and Slavs and Armenians moved in. Greek was the common language of them all. But they were Roman citizens.... Rhomaioi.

[@wulfricbushby7008]

great vid bro can you do a video about the Baltic peoples history or maybe Japanese history

[@vangelisskia214]

"With the collapse of the empire in the west, its eastern counterpart became, in reality, an entirely new and independent state, at once Greek by language and Roman in name: 'A Greek Roman empire'." Roderick Beaton, "The Greeks: a global history", New York: Basic books 2021, pp. 212

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Great video, as always, Pete. But don’t forget that in Greek (ancient and modern) and Latin, C is always pronounced as the K sound, always, no exceptions. Using C for the S sound came much later. Also, the Romans changed the -os of Greek words to the more-Latin sounding -us.

[@Billswiftgti]

In medieval Eastern Rome, C is S. C doesn't exist in Greek alphabet.

[@AlexandraDelRio1]

His name is pronounced “Nicky-foros”.

[@xbouxix]

Playing ck2 while listening to your video.