Niche Zero vs. Comandante C40 Espresso grinder | Rancilio Silvia

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[@andreavon3551]

Hi Hoon, you should slow down with the 1Zpresso to match the time of the Commadante, if slower rpm is the difference, grind slowly with 1Zpresso🤷‍♂️

[@JTFII]

Good comparison! It may be similar for espresso coffee but i hear the comandante blows the niche at filter coffee

[@joroboam]

Really enjoy these videos, im new to coffee so i appreciate your style and dedication.

[@coocooforcoffee4248]

Love your comparison videos! Never disappoints Thank you

[@HoonsCoffee]

Glad you like them!

[@hinze55555]

I just love the comandante! It rocks all my other grinders….Thanks for the video!

[@dumkopf]

Would love to hear/see you motorize Commandante! Do it!!!

[@dennisb.5279]

Very appropriate name.

[@johndoyle7958]

Oh wow, I wasn't expecting the hand grinder to take so long. I thought it would be half the time. I've got some rethinking to do. I was going to get the Comandante. Perhaps I'll take the plunge with the niche.

[@1967davidfitness]

Do you drink so many espressos per day?

[@skyking9248]

Hope you didn’t buy the toilet bowl grinder. Comandante for your daily driver would be a disaster. It should be for travel and occasional use only. Daily driver for pour over it’s fine. Niche was the most overhyped grinder I’ve ever seen. Chinese toilet bowl grinder. So many better options!! Hope you found a great grinder

[@chopps2274]

Hi Hoon - love all the content, are you planning to do anymore comparisons with the normcore levelling tamper v4?,\ I can't decide if I want to buy a 58.5 (I already have a standard design 58.5 mm tamper). Thanks

[@dumkopf]

That's quicker than me! I take over 3 minutes, and I'm switching arms every time.

[@fredwilson1191]

It's not the rpm as such giving the different flavor. For instance the Atom 75 is insanely fast, grinding 18 grams in ca 10 seconds and produces great tasting shots. Of course you could always simply measure the temp of the burrs after you grind your dose.

[@HoonsCoffee]

You have a great point Fred!

[@The_Coffee_Rabbit_Hole]

18 grams in 3 seconds 😅 ... i have an atom 75

[@fredwilson1191]

I highly suggest you investigate dialing in and making espresso by roast level. The generally accepted thoughts are: - Lighter roast are much harder to extract than darker roast - Lighter roast, since harder to extract, generally are better if one uses a higher temp (which you did here ) - since lighter roast require a lot more work to extract, its generally expected that one uses a smaller dose and a larger ratio to extract a much of the flavors as possible. I understand that you're pretty stuck on 18 grams in and a ca 1:2 ratio, regardless of the beans. As an example, I almost exclusively use light roasted African beans (Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda). When I use the BBE I set the temp to +2 or +4 ( depending some on the altitude grown of the particular bean) and only 15.5 - 16 grams (depending on the altitude grown) and usually look to get ca 38 grams out (side note, quite a while ago I modded my BBE to 9 bars). These produce wonderful shots loaded with flavors of berries, blue berries, cherries, watermelon, honey and stone fruits (peaches and such). When I do a milk drink (which I do sometimes) it's like drinking a fruit milkshake almost. When I do a medium dark roast (which is rare for me) I go down to at least -2 on the temp, dose up to 17.5 - 18 grams and look for around 30 - 31 grams out. Lastly, regarding the processing of the beans: natural processed beans are often/usually fruity and sweet, however there is a difference between fruity natural processed and fruity (such as African beans) washed process. The washed process beans tend to give more clean, acidic fruit taste, such as berries, cherries, etc. During natural processing the fruit on the outside of the bean will actually ferment some and that flavor will infuse into the beans. The fruity flavor of naturally processed beans tend to be more like stone fruits (peaches and such) and have a somewhat musty, mouldy flavoring. A lot/many people don't like that taste (according to James Hoffman) and that is possibly part of the problem you had with the taste of the macchiatos from your earlier video.

[@HoonsCoffee]

Thank you for your thoughtful comment!

[@FlavorTrends]

not a bit better from c40 vs Jmax, C40 are much much better in flavoring. I bought the JE-plus but I have to give up using as a flavor profile to C40, so far, nothing to bit and I am looking forward to see if any better burr geometry for any up coming hand grinder. coffee is about profile and form to me...

[@The_Coffee_Rabbit_Hole]

Hi , im looking to jx-max vs c40 red clixx ? You think c40 would taste drasticly better ?

[@Syd7088]

@@The_Coffee_Rabbit_Hole hi, did you find the answer? I’m torn between this two grinder to pair with flair 58.

[@fredwilson1191]

A blade grinder is worthless for espresso and one would play hell trying to get consistent shots

[@dennisb.5279]

Ask the owner of the Comandante for permission to use a drill to power the grinder. Power drills can damage hand grinders, and the Comandante costs a lot of dough. Just a suggestion.

[@gabordombovari9623]

you grinded with the comandante too fast. If you move your hands slower, the comandante needs less time. Try it.

[@sunwukong8069]

nice video hyung hoon

[@PJisoke13]

In the long run a quality manual grinder is much cheaper. All electric machines have a limited livespan.

[@endlessocean1731]

Please taste test comandante vs df64

[@HoonsCoffee]

check out this morning live.

[@endlessocean1731]

@@HoonsCoffee i’ve watched it last night. Thanks for the video. It’s great since no youtube channel i found making taste comparison comandante vs df64 standard burr.

[@dumkopf]

btw, what setting for commandante?

[@HoonsCoffee]

8 clicks

[@unsharted_territory]

Red clix cost me under $50

[@alirezaheydari5654]

You always do good compressions and i like them but dude please... Edit your videos... Cut some unnecessary parts and try to talk less and more effective

[@fredwilson1191]

You're to ng to do a "review" on a product line ? In your earlier video you said you don't do reviews. :-p

[@balmatian]

It shouldn't even be a contest. The NZ is far superior and sort of a pointless review>

[@dumkopf]

I don't think it's all that impossible/improbable for the C40 to be close. Taste is subjective, naturally.

[@plinius33]

Please take it with a grain of salt and do not be upset but there are a lot of reviews made by people like you that have no real experience with coffee. I can make also a review and post it on youtube...that does not transform me into a espresso guru..come on...this is stupid:)))