Nicholas Barclay: Part 2- Two Lost Boys

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Stephanie Harlowe

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@chelcrad
@chelcrad 2 жыл бұрын
The whole "good luck" comment from Jason makes me 100% think he knows what happened to Nicholas.
@karentucker2161
@karentucker2161 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same exact way too! I hope that someone would eventually co.e forward and say what really happened to the child.
@courtney01cf
@courtney01cf 2 жыл бұрын
Yep like good luck he’s far gone and you? You look nothing like him you’ll not fool them for long
@baniget7068
@baniget7068 2 жыл бұрын
exactly!!!
@ORIA_1125
@ORIA_1125 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. The reason he started drowning into drugs afte rhis disappearance explain it also as a guilt. He knew that that guy couldn't been Nicholas that's why he didn't go yo airport or for whole month to meet him, because he knew what happened to his younger brother.
@inhaleexhale6598
@inhaleexhale6598 2 жыл бұрын
@@ORIA_1125 Yup took the words right out of my mouth 💯
@kellyjames5125
@kellyjames5125 2 жыл бұрын
Fredric could only be mistaken for a 16 year old by whoever does the casting for Glee and Riverdale 🤣
@rhiannonwalker3047
@rhiannonwalker3047 2 жыл бұрын
Right!😂😂😂😂
@Jamie-so5ei
@Jamie-so5ei 2 жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@bonitagleisle2470
@bonitagleisle2470 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@MsGilly
@MsGilly 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Murphy would eat him up.
@Liamluv707
@Liamluv707 2 жыл бұрын
Euphoria too…yuck
@cas1dor
@cas1dor 2 жыл бұрын
"A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it's warmth" I'm a behavior specialist and built my whole career around this quote. The kids I work with have criminal records, bad home lives, and are known to be "bad kids" It's BS. They're impressionable young people with undeveloped decision making skills who are coping the best way they can. I've requested this case in the past but Stephanie if you see this PLEASE look into the case of Jesse Wilson from Buckeye AZ. He touched my heart because he could've easily been one of my own students. My community has all but forgotten him and being a foster child Jesse has no one to fight for him.
@StephanieHarlowe
@StephanieHarlowe 2 жыл бұрын
I love that quote
@ThePathOfLeastResistanc
@ThePathOfLeastResistanc 2 жыл бұрын
I love this quote. But I don’t love behavior therapy. It’s not acceptance to try to train a child to behave in a way that YOU feel is socially appropriate. Watch the plethora of Ted talks by autistic people talking about the trauma they’ve endured from ABA. All any person wants is to feel understood and accepted for who they are. And that is the true meaning behind this African proverb.
@berdineherbots1900
@berdineherbots1900 2 жыл бұрын
Opooooo po
@smokymountainangoras
@smokymountainangoras 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie, please also do a full story on Johnny Gosch !!! It’s an unbelievable story !!! The parallels to human trafficking and resurfacing years later (research Jeff Gannon George bush connection) !!! They will take any child off the street and it is still going on. There is no justice for the families because the government is complicit !!!!
@hardyquinn9442
@hardyquinn9442 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, I grew up in a really dysfunctional family with a long history of it passed found from generation to generation. When I got pregnant I refused to do the same and I've been in therapy for 11 years. You're right in everything you said. When my husband died we took my 6 year old and 4 year old to see a child pyschologist and she said basically the same thing. Children need love, they need to see you as an adult love yourself as well, they need hugs and encouragement and not told they're bound to fail(as I was but i didn't, it took awhile snd i went fown a rough path but my decisjon tk have my kids changed that). You just confirmed everything I needed to hear, especially as a widow and now single mom because its just me. Children aren't born criminals, they're innocent and it's our job to to take them through the world so they too can grow up to be compassionate adults and accepted members of society. I like the qoute you used and I'm going to put a sticky note in my office with it just as a reminder. So thanks 😊 Terribly sad case though, so many victims throughout I can't blame some of them in a lot of ways.
@alinefaza1228
@alinefaza1228 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sad thinking about Nicholas. All those things about him being a "bad apple" "a bad kid" etc when he was only 13 years old and clearly didn't have anyone who cared about him enough to make a difference. It's so heartbreaking.
@sharyebethancourt3660
@sharyebethancourt3660 Жыл бұрын
And maybe had undiagnosed ADD. He probably just needed attention.
@kkaugustine1958
@kkaugustine1958 Жыл бұрын
I was a nightmare at 13. Was misdiagnosed as bipolar 2 and that was used to make me look “crazy” and a “bad apple” by my family. Turns out, it was just a bad home as a whole and undiagnosed ADHD that was the problem, not just me being inherently bad. I’m grown now and am a functioning, stable member of society, going to college. Moral of the story: there are no “bad” kids. There’s always other factors at play, usually “bad apples” come from bad FAMILIES.
@x.tawny.x
@x.tawny.x 2 жыл бұрын
standing ovation for having sympathy for fredrick & holding Nicholas' family members accountable!
@shelbymanners6729
@shelbymanners6729 Жыл бұрын
I just wish someone would send Frederic and family a tweezer…No disrespect to this story at all- just an observation.
@Kreepyb5
@Kreepyb5 Жыл бұрын
Love humor
@madameghostie
@madameghostie Жыл бұрын
I have sympathy for Frederic and his upbringing, but I’m still kind of creeped out by the fact that he allegedly had a crush on a high school girl when he was pretending to be Nicholas. I really hope he was just… acting.
@ilovegot7754
@ilovegot7754 Жыл бұрын
I have no sympathy for a 23 year flirting with underage school kids no matter what hardship he went through in life. Imagine if the victims family were a family that ACTUALLY cared and felt really duped then I think people would look at this different. The horrible creative stories he made about children being r is also a cause for concern, don't know how you guys are allowing yourself to be manipulated by this guys sob story.
@isitoveryet9525
@isitoveryet9525 Жыл бұрын
@@madameghostieso….you have an issue with him having a crush a high schooler, but you’re completely ok with a 23 yr old man searching up missing kids in another country, so he could impersonate them & trick their family into believing their missing child returned?!
@jenniferszad2222
@jenniferszad2222 2 жыл бұрын
With most of the cases you cover, I’m left feeling like I have a clear villain I can hang all my rage and sadness on. But this one hits different. There are so many victims in this case. Nicholas, Frédéric, and (albeit to a lesser extent) all the people surrounding them who were too busy dealing with their own demons to help anyone else. This is a story about a missing boy, but it’s also so much bigger. It’s a story about childhood neglect, abuse, generational trauma, systemic failures… as always, your storytelling wove it all together and left me with a whole lot to think about. Flawlessly done.
@aHavenForTheLost
@aHavenForTheLost 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more!💖
@ao7616
@ao7616 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I totally agree!
@Hexiad
@Hexiad 2 жыл бұрын
The only clear villains are the traffickers.
@Bodhi-Lovell
@Bodhi-Lovell 2 жыл бұрын
P
@scottcantdance804
@scottcantdance804 2 жыл бұрын
I have a whole lot of questions especially about the family, but something I'm also wondering that was briefly touched on in the first episode, is why did the initial agent, from Interpol or Europol or whatever, who identified this guy as potentially being Nicholas Barclay, why did he even think it could be him when details like eye color didn't match? I mean he would have been looking at a report of a missing child that listed things like age, hair color, height and weight last seen, and eye color. I can see things like height, and weight not matching because of the change in age, even potentially the change in hair color from dying or a natural change in color, but eye color? Makes no sense. And why did he say this guy spoke English with an American accent? This guy doesn't have anything close to an American accent.
@MistySophie
@MistySophie 2 жыл бұрын
"It's like I woke up in a place where there were lies even bigger that what I did. They pretended as much as I did and even more" This sentence sentence shivers to my spine, especially with all the other suspicious stuff surrounding this family with Nicholas disappearance
@daydreamer8.3.1.9
@daydreamer8.3.1.9 Жыл бұрын
YES!!!! I 100% AGREE!!!!
@sarahmelissa4253
@sarahmelissa4253 Жыл бұрын
It's like they say, you can't bullshit a bullshitter. Frederic immediately knew something was off.
@britnidavidson4546
@britnidavidson4546 2 жыл бұрын
The way his mother reacted to him coming home(not traveling to pick him up,not running up to greet him, not wanting him in her home) makes me believe she knew this wasn't Nicholas. Also the brother seems to have known there was no way the real Nicholas was coming home. I always try to believe that parents/family would never hurt their children/loved ones but this all seems so very suspicious. It just makes me wonder, what if Nicholas and his brother were fighting one night and Nicholas died and mom didn't want to lose two children so she helped cover up the crime Or if Nicholas and his mother were fighting and Nicholas died and brother helped the mom cover it up. The mom and brother just seem awful suspicious to me.
@andreawhite1496
@andreawhite1496 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it seemed like the brother was guilty. Did anybody ever have proof that even called home to ask for a ride? The mom I feel like it could go either way. She probably suspected her oldest son had killed his youngest. Especially when she saw the way he spiraled into his addiction. His poor sister tho, she probably might have suspected her older brother but tried to hang on to hope. When they found "Nicholas" she probably saw it as proof that her other family members weren't murderers after all. How sad.
@kbm2055
@kbm2055 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's possible that the mother had strong suspicions without actually knowing exact details (e.g. Jason may have done some shady things around the time and after the disappearance of Nicholas). And I think you are right that she wouldn't tell the police about it.
@triciahammon1539
@triciahammon1539 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Nicolas had a tattoo also???
@mamapandas5740
@mamapandas5740 2 жыл бұрын
This was my theory too
@clarissajade13
@clarissajade13 2 жыл бұрын
@@triciahammon1539 he did but Frédéric had gotten a replica of Nickolas’s tattoos to try to make it more believable since he realized Nickolas had tattoos already
@rachozbaxtoz
@rachozbaxtoz 2 жыл бұрын
The day Nicholas called his brother to pick him up, I think Jason did go get him. There was an altercation/fight that happened. Jason was not sober, and went too far. He then just claimed he never picked him up.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
I think the mom killed him. Him having bruises points to prior abuse.
@coolsexy101
@coolsexy101 2 жыл бұрын
I think something like this happened. Maybe the mom and sister didn't know or maybe they did. Still weird the sister would bring him home. She could have just said no and then went back home.
@maidekaradeniz199
@maidekaradeniz199 2 жыл бұрын
@@belladonna5904 i think since jason was living with the mother to "help and control" Nicholas jason abused nicholas and the mother allowed it. wether she didnt bother doing something or actualy thought Nicholas needs a strict and punishing hand, she probably knew and let jason abuse nicholas and one day jason went too far. they probably covered it up together
@karentucker2161
@karentucker2161 2 жыл бұрын
after hearing the first video she did, I was starting to think the same thing.
@karentucker2161
@karentucker2161 2 жыл бұрын
​@@maidekaradeniz199 definitely think both the mom and brother was at fault for his abuse and disappearance.
@ninanano
@ninanano 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Nicholas already had bruises, his brother was the last person to see him and the reaction he had when "Nicholas" was found...
@agnediciuniene9861
@agnediciuniene9861 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that Frederic finally found happiness and family. As for Nicolas... I Believe his family did something to him. I also believe his mother knew what happened to him.
@bobisu3111
@bobisu3111 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this too .
@balistixxx3701
@balistixxx3701 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was the brother...he never questioned if it was nicholas,he knew it wasn't.
@victoriakim4385
@victoriakim4385 2 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure ,when the family went to the airport ;remember the mom took a minute to hug and embrace him?Right there she was contemplating what to do bcoz she knew he wasn’t his son but he didn’t want to creat scandal and attention so she just went with it and she refused to stay with him and chose that he stays with his “sister”.like it’s just unbelievable. I wish we could know what’s going on in her mind
@crimegeek
@crimegeek 2 жыл бұрын
I have that feeling too. Why else would they not want to do dna testing? They wanted to keep whatever was secret a secret. Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.
@denicahuffman6211
@denicahuffman6211 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that way to and that's why she didn't want him to live with her and was slow to greet him.
@MarisaAndChew
@MarisaAndChew 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine wanting a family and love so badly that you're willing to be sent across the globe to a foreign country and fake being a teenager? Homework, siblings all that stuff like omg. That's heart breaking and even if the guy made all that up he's still got something so painful within him that he's willing to do that. It's so incredibly sad...
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I can imagine. But I would be too nervous 😆 how he can so calmly impersonate these people is beyond me.
@thrasherali-ns2842
@thrasherali-ns2842 2 жыл бұрын
@@belladonna5904 he learned to lie to protect himself as a small child, and then to feel loved and accepted, and then to survive I think it makes sense it came more naturally to him than it would for people who didn't have to do that as little kids.
@plutonium2
@plutonium2 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be freaked out by the weirdness but I'd kinda love to be a teen for a week again. Relaxinggg
@mandapanties
@mandapanties 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard of this case so many times but never heard anything about Frederick's side of the story. That's why you're the best, you make sure to tell the WHOOOLE story and answer all the questions that can be answered. I feel sympathy for him as well.
@Starburst514
@Starburst514 Жыл бұрын
Same here. All the times I've heard of this case, Fredric always gets dropped after it's discovered he's not Nicolas
@flordelisASMR
@flordelisASMR 2 жыл бұрын
This story really hit home for me. I grew up in a family where I was neglected and the only attention I received was when I behaved badly. You can not expect a child to grow emotionally and mentally if you don't guide and nurture them. Where ever this child may be, he certainly did not deserve to be dismissed because "he was difficult". He clearly needed to be loved. Nicholas where ever you are, you are loved, you are missed, you are not forgotten.
@sarahroxanne
@sarahroxanne Жыл бұрын
Can relate and agree to this so much
@tinahochstetler2189
@tinahochstetler2189 2 жыл бұрын
Frederic must have been terrified when he figured out that they knew he wasn't Nicholas and were putting on an act like they did. He must have been thinking they killed a little boy and are going to kill him next.
@Swaytekk
@Swaytekk 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe that the family knew what happened to Nicolas and this was their way of attempting to cover up what they knew.
@StephanieHarlowe
@StephanieHarlowe 2 жыл бұрын
it is possible...
@ARodriguez5
@ARodriguez5 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@nikkiej.5875
@nikkiej.5875 2 жыл бұрын
I always believed that is what happened. It would explain a lot of their suspicious actions.
@chloejohnson3184
@chloejohnson3184 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, same reason the brother never showed up when he came back, because he knew what he did to Nicholas and that it wasn't him.
@nikkiej.5875
@nikkiej.5875 2 жыл бұрын
@@chloejohnson3184 They didn’t want it coming out that he was killed so the family covered for each other.
@labonihira
@labonihira 2 жыл бұрын
After hearing this case i wonder how many more cases like this go completely unnoticed because no one truly cared for that child. It's really sad to think that Fredrick, an imposter had to come into play for anyone to look onto the case more deeply
@joanneevertz7163
@joanneevertz7163 2 жыл бұрын
Harley Dilley is the same. Mom - Dad didn't care. LEO involved with mom Heather & helped cover up his murder.
@bhelmu40
@bhelmu40 2 жыл бұрын
I totally believe the brother killed him, like a crime of passion. Nicholas pissed off his brother on the ride home from the basketball game. I think his brother did go pick him up. I don't think that the brother planned to kill Nicholas. The brother was high or drunk or both. Lost his head and killed Nicholas. His mother either suspected or knew and helped to cover for Jason. Jason probably beat Nicholas alot, his mother knew that. So when Jason came home without Nicholas and shook up, blood on his knuckles, his mother knew.
@veronicalynn9756
@veronicalynn9756 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t seem like they ever looked for still today….so sad like no one really cared for this kid.
@Muirmaiden
@Muirmaiden 2 жыл бұрын
@@veronicalynn9756 I think you're right. I conversed briefly online with an extended family member who was adamant that no one in the family, especially Jason had anything to do with Nicholas's disappearance. He made the telling comment, " Well, nobody's looking for Nicholas now." That told me everything I needed to know.
@TheRadiantPeachBudgets
@TheRadiantPeachBudgets Жыл бұрын
@@veronicalynn9756exactly! I looked for updates and stuff and pretty much nothing
@NixieEppler
@NixieEppler 2 жыл бұрын
Fredricks relationship with his mother sounds identical to mine. Any bit of love she gave him wasn’t for him, it was for her. He was a vessel for her narcissism, or he was out of the way. The things that does to a developing child, I know first hand. So tragic.
@scottcantdance804
@scottcantdance804 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to picture the feeling Frederick must have experienced, deciding to run a con pretending to be this boy, realizing that it was doomed to fail because he looks nothing like him, then disbelief and surprise as family member after family member confirm that he is Nicholas... but then the growing suspicion that they know he isn't Nicholas and yet, for some reason, were still pretending that he is Nicholas and are letting him live with them... And now he is in a new country, dependent on them, and the only form of identification he has, shows him as a minor and links him to them so he doesn't even have a good method to get away. I would feel thoroughly unsettled at that point. It's like something out of a psychological horror movie.
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 2 жыл бұрын
Nixie. I'm with you too. Only told I love you when she was drunk and emotional. But we get through and do our best no, strive like hell to not be like them. I hope your as happy now as I am. You deserve it. I'm an older lady and I had a lot to work through & it was *SO* worth it. I'm sending you love from afar since we're in a special sisterhood 💛
@nicnic4712
@nicnic4712 2 жыл бұрын
I’m also dealing with that
@thequeenofwitches7943
@thequeenofwitches7943 2 жыл бұрын
I find Frederick and his story fascinating...
@NixieEppler
@NixieEppler 2 жыл бұрын
@@Julia-uh4li thank you so much for this comment. I have overcome addiction, learned to live with my disorders and I can proudly say that I am the parent of a happy and healthy baby boy. Here’s to breaking the cycle🎉
@madisonchapman2369
@madisonchapman2369 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad that Frédéric found someone and was able to start an actual loving family.
@MaryMDoyle
@MaryMDoyle 2 жыл бұрын
The sister is the suspicious one to me, since she was the one who blatantly excepted a guy who looked 30+ years old as her 16 year old brother. I have a lot of cousins living in England and they would come visit every 2 or 3 years and I knew them on each occasion because children grow but don't change drastically even in 3 years. I would also know my own brother who I'd see every day, if he went missing and suddenly turned up 3 years later. Blue eyes do not turn brown at 16, she was a grown ass woman yet she insisted an imposter was her kin, the question is why? And no I don't believe she wanted it to be true, she literally coached him with the family photos again I ask why?
@jmariel6843
@jmariel6843 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Awful parents need to be judged, under very harsh light. I don’t understand the defensive urge to give bad parents leniency. This kid’s parents and family failed him at every turn, and that deserves to be stated, very clearly.
@heathernikki5734
@heathernikki5734 2 жыл бұрын
THIS
@stephm4349
@stephm4349 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@ASAMB12
@ASAMB12 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's actually "leniency" towards bad parents as you put it. What I personally have an issue with is that Stephanie is making Beverly out to be a bad mother when in reality there is no way of knowing that for certain. She doesn't know what Beverly did or didn't do. Was Beverly an amazing mother? Probably not, if we go by what we know about drug addicts in general, but in the end we do not know how difficult Nicholas' childhood really was, so I think it's not okay for Stephanie to accuse Beverly of causing Nicholas' issues. I have literally no idea what makes her believe that "it's scientifically proven" that behavioural issues are always caused by bad parenting because I've never read that anywhere myself. Abusive behaviour of the parents certainly does negatively impact the child's development and mental health but that's not the only explanation for behavioural or mental issues in a child or person. The child might have suffered abuse by somebody else in their life, without the knowledge of the parents, or they may develop a disorder without experiencing any abuse as a child. There is no definitive proof that a disorder like antisocial disorder is necessarily caused by childhood abuse or neglect.
@sandilou2U
@sandilou2U 2 жыл бұрын
Both kids. That being said, there is a very high probability their parents were failed by their parents and they were failed by their parents, and so on. We know this is true for Frederick's mom. Instead of helping her raise him or negotiating an arrangement for custody, they had the authorities remove him from her care and place him in their care. I question their motive considering how once they were given custody they abused and neglected him. Was it out of a desire to provide him a better life but something sabotaged their intent? Or, was it an act of cruelty against their daughter? Maybe both? In nearly every case of child abuse, the parents are ultimately responsible and we are right to hold anger towards them but could it be that they were victims themselves? Did they repeat what happened to them? I always want to look deeper, farther back the family tree. We, as a society, have the tools to begin breaking the cycle. But, interjecting education and providing safety nets first requires understanding and compassion, and enough of it for the people who have a stable life to want to. It would not be immediate or even within one generation but the same way the abusive behavior was passed down, we can pass better behavior up and forward.
@sandilou2U
@sandilou2U 2 жыл бұрын
Oops. Sorry I rambled on. I didn't realize how long my reply would be
@tyleighflores6442
@tyleighflores6442 2 жыл бұрын
So crazy. My mom has always followed Heidi Seemans case. When she was little, she went on a trip to Seaworld in San Antonio and it was the same day Heidi went missing and she just followed it since then. She was talking about how no one has made videos on her just a few days ago and I told her to write to you to research and make a video on it, then you mentioned her in the video. Pleaseeee make a video for us on Heidi!!
@YouTube.Tiffany
@YouTube.Tiffany 2 жыл бұрын
I just asked Stephanie to do the same!! I'm also from San Antonio & grew up with such a huge fear of being kidnapped because of Heidi's case. I lived on the same side of town and had a scary encounter with a man in a small red car as a kid. Honestly, it terrifies me now because I didn't know at the time until VERY recently like this year that there was even a suspicious red car in the mix. I hope she does a case on both girls, Erika Botello as well.
@Liz-jm1nb
@Liz-jm1nb 2 жыл бұрын
@@KZbin.Tiffany ditto. I had a lot in common with her and her disappearance stuck with me and terrified my for years. I would love to see Stephanie do a deep dive on her.
@madisonl3401
@madisonl3401 2 жыл бұрын
I am so thankful for Stephanie in this dreary world of crime. True compassion and journalism is all I ask for and she delivers every single time. Thank you Stephanie
@chikacherrycola9189
@chikacherrycola9189 2 жыл бұрын
Well Put🌸
@danielleelizaharpz
@danielleelizaharpz 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed xo
@lanadeltorro7663
@lanadeltorro7663 Жыл бұрын
No child wants to be the “bad unloved kid”. 13 is still too young to give up on. Heartbreaking. I’m a mother and I’d know if someone else was not my daughter.
@outcomethewolves19
@outcomethewolves19 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to break the cycle of intergenerational trauma. I'm a survivor of child abuse (phsyical, sexual, and emotional/neglect). It can really change a person. I appreciate how you go into a person's background to help us understand their actions. People just don't wake up one day and decide to be violent or abusive. There's a reason somewhere in their background. A great book is The Body Keeps the Score.
@Swaytekk
@Swaytekk 2 жыл бұрын
I can see why Stephanie feels bad for the guy. I couldn’t imagine going through what he went through or any child suffering that much mental trauma. The fact that he was searching for a place of his own, where he wanted to be accepted and loved makes it so much harder to see him in a bad light
@sweettea527
@sweettea527 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought of ot like Stephanie mentioned. But it's true, Frédéric was damaged also. What he did was definitely not good, but he didn't hurt or steal, he wanted to be loved.
@andreat9435
@andreat9435 2 жыл бұрын
the hurt I feel for Frederick MUCH outweighs the wrong he did for pretending to be someone else. both of these two boys lives were so heartbreaking and I feel they were both more victims than anything else in this case. if anything, their family would be the people in the wrong. imagine not caring enough about your kid/brother to just not notice that someone else has taken his place. ugh.
@silvaleanne
@silvaleanne 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. This. I totally agree.
@smokymountainangoras
@smokymountainangoras 2 жыл бұрын
This is also similar to what happened to Johnny Gosch !!! It’s a human trafficking ring that is related to the US government!!!
@sy_dianne5224
@sy_dianne5224 2 жыл бұрын
They knew, but were covering it up...that family has a very unhealthy dynamic and I strongly believe they know what happened to Nicholas
@ilovegot7754
@ilovegot7754 2 жыл бұрын
I have no sympathy for a 23 year flirting with underage school kids no matter what hardship he went through in life. Imagine if the victims family were a family that ACTUALLY cared and felt really duped then I think people would look at this different. The horrible creative stories he made about children being r is also a cause for concern, don't know how you guys are allowing yourself to be manipulated by this guys sob story.
@piratesswoop725
@piratesswoop725 2 жыл бұрын
@@smokymountainangoras Nah, I don't think it was human trafficking, let alone related to the government.
@ashleygrant8230
@ashleygrant8230 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stephanie! So tired of half ass parents just deciding their kids are shitty without reflecting for even a second on why their kids acts that way. Freaking connect with your kids people, your children become what you put into them.
@GYmnastX1
@GYmnastX1 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@motorcitymangababe
@motorcitymangababe 2 жыл бұрын
I've yet to meet a bad kid that was that way because they gave up trying to please parents who couldn't be pleased.
@LoLoA89
@LoLoA89 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcitymangababe - I made that decision at 10 years old. Life was very rough for many many years because of the way my mother treated me and allowed/encouraged others to treat me. I didn’t even begin to heal until I was 26. I will be 33 this September and life just keeps getting better, but certain traumas still linger and show up in strange ways.
@AbsyntheAndTears
@AbsyntheAndTears 2 жыл бұрын
So true. I have 3 kids, and one was a little more "difficult" as a toddler/preschool age. All I did was just give her love and try to understand her. She had a lot of anxiety and a hard time expressing it. Now she is 6, and she is a very well behaved, loving child. I often wonder how she would have turned out if she wasn't surrounded by people who love her. It's so sad that so many kids never know that love.
@kendrasolana8014
@kendrasolana8014 2 жыл бұрын
As a juvenile adolescent therapist, I encounter children/ adolescents and families in these situations daily. I wish someone was there for Nicholas and fulfilled their role as a mandated reporter or caregiver. He had/ has so much therapeutic potential, recovery is possible. ❤️
@amberleach5501
@amberleach5501 2 жыл бұрын
My sympathy is reserved for Nicholas and Frederic...the real victims of neglect.
@AmyBR4b
@AmyBR4b 2 жыл бұрын
The brother, sister, and mom for sure knew that wasn’t Nicholas from day 1. It’s really sad. Weird that his sister would let a random stranger share a room with her child just to keep the lie going though… Jason probably couldn’t deal with the lies and guilt anymore.
@devonharrisakad-6a6y53
@devonharrisakad-6a6y53 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jason and Mom know something. I'm not sure if the sister knew
@balistixxx3701
@balistixxx3701 2 жыл бұрын
I think jason done something when he said nicholas called and wanted picked up the day he went missing and jason said he didn't go i think nicholas came home mad,got in a fight with jason & went too far. Mom didn't let the imposter stay with her at first because she knew it wasn't nicholas. I don't know if the sister knew,but jason was sure it wasn't him. I think their mom didn't want to lose jason who seemed like he was her golden child.
@devonharrisakad-6a6y53
@devonharrisakad-6a6y53 2 жыл бұрын
@@balistixxx3701 💯 exactly
@Emily_Burgess89
@Emily_Burgess89 2 жыл бұрын
@@balistixxx3701 yup, and that's also why they didn't report him as missing for days.
@Emily_Burgess89
@Emily_Burgess89 2 жыл бұрын
@Britanie .ElizabethI think Jason did something to him, mom helped him cover it up, during those couple of days when they claimed they thought that he just ran away for a couple nights to blow off steam, but didn't call anyone to ask. I think the sister may have had a feeling that something nefarious happened with them, but wasn't positive and didn't really want to know/admit the truth to herself, about her own family doing such a thing and she hung onto Frederick's words because she wanted to believe it was her brother, since it distracted her from having to question the truth and she wanted to live in denial, as the truth was too painful to admit.
@kaitlynn1111
@kaitlynn1111 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh. Your little "rant" at the end made me cry. "What he needed was therapy!" It breaks my heart all these children in the world that don't have the love and safety they all deserve :( I wish I could save them all.
@nicnic4712
@nicnic4712 2 жыл бұрын
You should sign up to be a foster parent. There’s 400,000 kids that need someone to love them here in the US. Idk where you are from but you can still do it.
@nicnic4712
@nicnic4712 2 жыл бұрын
You should sign up to be a foster parent. There’s 400,000 kids that need someone to love them here in the US. Idk where you are from but you can still do it.
@vjc25
@vjc25 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who was abused severely in my childhood, it was healing to hear Stephanie say all that.
@ilovegot7754
@ilovegot7754 2 жыл бұрын
I have no sympathy for a 23 year flirting with underage school kids no matter what hardship he went through in life. Imagine if the victims family were a family that ACTUALLY cared and felt really duped then I think people would look at this different. The horrible creative stories he made about children being r is also a cause for concern, don't know how you guys are allowing yourself to be manipulated by this guys sob story.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
I have no sympathy towards the mom. She didn't care about Nicholas.
@lindsaysmittle8514
@lindsaysmittle8514 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this Doc many moons ago with my SIL, and we were practically banging our heads against the wall in frustration this whole movie! I believe the family must have had something to do with it. I know every freckle on my kids - let alone their eye color!
@crystalkruer1245
@crystalkruer1245 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the doc called? Thx:)
@jennymeb79
@jennymeb79 2 жыл бұрын
@@crystalkruer1245 The Imposter
@lindsaysmittle8514
@lindsaysmittle8514 2 жыл бұрын
@@crystalkruer1245 Imposter
@PinkPatriot
@PinkPatriot 2 жыл бұрын
I completely understand your sympathy for Fredrick. In the end, he really didn’t hurt anyone, besides maybe the sister. It breaks my heart bc all he wanted was love and a family. I’m glad it all worked out for him. Everyone deserves love. I wish we could find Nicholas and give him the love he deserves. 😔
@spacecowboybunnies5890
@spacecowboybunnies5890 Жыл бұрын
I agree but I’m a little curious about the relationship he had with the one girl from the school he attended as Nicholas… a sec ual relationship with a highschool girl while posing as a 16 year old is definitely not okay
@DebiQ1830
@DebiQ1830 2 жыл бұрын
At the beginning, I suspected the brother, Jason, in Nicholas's "disappearance," but when Frederick had the tattoos and information, I thought I was wrong... then ... when Mom and the brother were not excited about his "return," I knew they'd killed him and hidden the body. I'm guessing Jason and Nicholas fought and it got out of control. The mom, not wanting to lose both kids, she backed up the older and they masterfully concocted a story, never imagining that he would return from the dead. I hope the truth is revealed some day.
@nickinunudalby7031
@nickinunudalby7031 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I thought.
@sherryholland8564
@sherryholland8564 Жыл бұрын
​@@nickinunudalby7031me too
@autumnautopsy
@autumnautopsy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually so happy to hear that Frederic got to experience a happy ending of sorts.
@evangelineconstance1832
@evangelineconstance1832 2 жыл бұрын
My heart broke when you said he was still missing. 😭 I was hoping he would be found
@LynnCooks
@LynnCooks 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was a sadistic abusive nightmare. However, I was fortunate enough to have other role models in my life to look to as mother figures. I knew from a very young age my mother was crazy. Many years later, being the mother I didn't have & giving my children the childhood I didn't have profoundly healed me from all of that. 😊 If you had a bad childhood...be the parent you wish you had or needed...and most likely your kids will turn out well.
@mel-td3vr
@mel-td3vr 2 жыл бұрын
I read this and it literally sounds exactly like me. I feel this so much and I have given my children a totally different life than I had. I knew at a young age that something wasn't right with my parents and chose to do the exact opposite of them. I have a fantastic relationship with my children and they have anything they could possibly need or want. I'm thankful and grateful, as things could have went a totally different way.
@rhiannonwalker3047
@rhiannonwalker3047 2 жыл бұрын
100%. I have lived a very similar life. Childhood and adult. I thank my mother for showing me the kind of mother I never wanted to be. I love being a mom and have two wonderful sons!❤
@WhirlWindWilder
@WhirlWindWilder 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. My childhood needed a good mom. I still strive to be the best mom and grandmother
@allisonvero2142
@allisonvero2142 2 жыл бұрын
My son means everything to me. My childhood wasnt great, but I'm making damn sure he knows how much I love him and that I want the best life for him. God bless ALL of you and I wish you the best as well.
@kerry876548
@kerry876548 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for standing up for the child in this. There are no bad children, just learning and growing children. They need guidance and love.
@Ferf3o
@Ferf3o 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in a 63 bed group home for boys 13-18yrs old and so many of their stories were the same, once you got past the “hard ass” attitude! I always said the parents should have been in the group homes not the kids! I cannot tell you the number of times parents were scheduled to come to “family therapy” and we would call to verify they would be there the next day and these “parents” would call minutes before the session to say “oh I can’t make it” and the disappointment in the kid was always written in their eyes no matter how much they tried to hide it! I cannot tell you how many times I would have words with “parents”! Mind you I was “way out of line” considering I was just an “office worker” however I did develop a relationship with these kids because I worked on the units and I was the first person they met when they came into the facility. Again the parents should of been in there 9/10 cases!
@whenwillcarmen
@whenwillcarmen 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I have a few things …I 100% agree with everything you have said. Your compassion for both the imposter and Nicolas was so touching. Plus the imposter has NO reason to lie any longer. He already served his time and is living a “normal” life. The comments you mentioned were left about Nicolas’s behavior was heart breaking. Why do people assume the worst of others? Another thing…my husband tried to make fun of the way you say “documentary”. Next thing I know I’m jokingly yelling at the hubs “Hey, Stephanie is my best friend. Don’t talk about her that way.” He teases back asking if she knows who I am. So I of course had to regulate and put him in his place. Haha. So Stephanie, you can’t make me look like a liar. You must now tell everyone (including my husband) we are officially BFF. 😉
@ladylovefacts
@ladylovefacts 2 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend doesn’t believe me either 🤣🤣🤣
@pqm2012
@pqm2012 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! Love it. I talk to my husband too like "you know I was listening to Stephanie and she said...." lol
@kristymiller4693
@kristymiller4693 2 жыл бұрын
My husband knows that when she is on, no talking is allowed. Lol
@pqm2012
@pqm2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@kristymiller4693 of but of course
@mirandajsummers
@mirandajsummers 2 жыл бұрын
She's MY friend - go away!
@autumncortez6254
@autumncortez6254 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Jason must have hurt Nicolas and he died. Maybe accidentally, maybe in a drug-fueled argument. And then the mom figured it out, but didn’t want to lose another son to a prison sentence. Jason was just too quick to KNOW it wasn’t Nicolas.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
No. The mom is an awful person and killed him.
@yvette4933
@yvette4933 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@OurLargeFamilyLife
@OurLargeFamilyLife 2 жыл бұрын
I knew that would be the end of this story…I hope they get closure someday
@barbhenley4692
@barbhenley4692 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@basicallyv9873
@basicallyv9873 Жыл бұрын
Before he had even seen him, he hesitated
@angelamarie79
@angelamarie79 2 жыл бұрын
When the Brother said "good luck" that IMO was a clear declaration of the guilty party.
@allyc8563
@allyc8563 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been through a polygraph, it's incredibly stressful. Even when you are being honest and transparent you always still feel like you are hiding something. That being said, I 100% believe Jason knows what happened to him and that's why he didn't pay any attention to the imposter Nicholas.
@jazminedrebenstedt6432
@jazminedrebenstedt6432 2 жыл бұрын
I had to take a break for a couple weeks before I could finish this video. I feel very emotional listening to this one, thinking about both of these boys. My heart aches and reminds me to be grateful for the family I have. Also, Nicholas's family is extremely suspicious to me, I don't believe for a second that they don't know where he is or what happened to him.
@alishaaaa4124
@alishaaaa4124 2 жыл бұрын
Same this case breaks my heart for nich that the people who are meant to care for him the most ,are probably the ones who took his life all because they raised him poorly ,this case hits a little to close to home for me since I understand there is probably so much more to it
@quartxxiv767
@quartxxiv767 2 жыл бұрын
We always ask “Why?” When criminals crime… then when we go into the why people get defensive. This is why I love your channel. You break it down like it is. No excuses but reasons. People often say I’m mean sometimes too but I never find you mean for some reason lol. Which is why I’d feel like we’d be homies.
@StephanieHarlowe
@StephanieHarlowe 2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@donaldmcauliffe3120
@donaldmcauliffe3120 2 жыл бұрын
@@StephanieHarlowe please do a book on your life
@sourgreendolly7685
@sourgreendolly7685 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. We can acknowledge the reason without it being an excuse. Personally, I’m glad my trauma inspired me to do everything I could to heal rather than harm others. I don’t see these discussions as against me, but further evidence that, despite my mistakes, I’m still on the right path. Reminds me to be grateful things haven’t turned out that wrong.
@annachristinanotyet4678
@annachristinanotyet4678 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just gonna grant you a piece of the arsewhole cyclus otherwise you'd probably drown in yourself.
@kimberlyhood4095
@kimberlyhood4095 2 жыл бұрын
This one has always baffled me but when it came to the first meeting with Mom, she totally knew he wasn't her son and she sent him to his 'sister!' That's always spoke volumes. The family has always known what happened to him and this dude was the grand illusion. It completely exonerated them of wrong doing. I think his brother has always been the key.
@lorettascott5477
@lorettascott5477 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but I also wonder why she had no concerns for her daughter to take him in.
@JR-xw5nv
@JR-xw5nv 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorettascott5477 I think it speaks to the type of mom she was. Nicholas clearly had no structure. He was neglected. I think the most likely scenario is that Jason killed Nicholas, but the mom either knew about it or suspected. Yet she responded by helping her other son get away with it. And them she puts her daughter, her grandkids, and "Nicholas'" classmates at risk? She's just a terrible person. I came into this knowing only the basics of the case. I wanted to give Beverley the benefit of the doubt, but there's no other explanation.
@tanyadelaware7315
@tanyadelaware7315 2 жыл бұрын
I think so to brother is the key to this.
@rememberDay1
@rememberDay1 2 жыл бұрын
yep especially considering he ODed soon after the murdr investigation began…sounds like guilt not malice, so maybe he accidentally killed nicholas while under the influence, or had nicholas try some drugs and he ODed as well
@heather_doestruecrime
@heather_doestruecrime 2 жыл бұрын
@@JR-xw5nv yeah I love Stephanie, like die hard - but I think it’s really naive of her to say she doesn’t think Beverly was involved. She was clearly a negligent mother. Regardless of if it was an accident (which I think it was) she would have been the person who brought heroin into their household & surely wouldn’t have wanted to be in trouble for her 13 year old using it. Negligent mother at BEST, I suppose.
@steph1907
@steph1907 2 жыл бұрын
I love that she doesn't make us wait long on two+ part videos.
@Pandabear273
@Pandabear273 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen so many videos on this case. They are usually 20 minutes long maximum. Sometimes it’s in a compilation video with other stories. You are the only person that has went above and beyond. I never knew anything about the imposter. Now I know his whole history from childhood and more. Amazing. You will always be my favorite.
@cerealrakist7360
@cerealrakist7360 2 жыл бұрын
Girl I love that you think with the bigger picture in mind and don’t care who doesn’t like it!! Thank you for being a breath of fresh air instead of another member of the mean bully sheeple
@ashaburtell9910
@ashaburtell9910 2 жыл бұрын
I think Nicholas never played basketball at all that night. I think Jason “ disciplined” him a bit too hard and waited 3 days to report him “ missing “. Smells of so many other domestic murder cases where the family kills a kid and then pretends like they were kidnapped. That’s why James never accepted the impostor and Beverly didn’t play along either. I think Carrie wasn’t in on the secret at all.
@ari-fy6cg
@ari-fy6cg 2 жыл бұрын
like Jason already told on himself when he said he let his brother walk home alone at night because he "didn't want to wake their mom up". i have a brother who just turned 13 and i can't imagine letting him wander around the streets at night because i want to teach him a lesson. did any of the people Nicholas allegedly was with confirm that he was around them that night?
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
Beverly did play along. She wouldn't even let them take her DNA.
@Muirmaiden
@Muirmaiden 2 жыл бұрын
Look up the case of James Gilmore Jr. He went missing in 1962 and his body was found buried underneath his family's former home in 1985. Sadly, there wasn't enough evidence to charge anyone but it's obvious that someone in his family was responsible. They all said he was a bad kid but his parents literally got into gun fights.
@SamanthaLeigh7
@SamanthaLeigh7 2 жыл бұрын
You weren't kidding when you said you'd have part two up fast! Yay!! Btw- you're looking extra gorgeous today! Love your hair like that! 💜💛💙 And I can't wait until Sunday for Crime Weekly's part two of the Springfield Three!
@agnieszkamiller3008
@agnieszkamiller3008 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything said here!
@DrAnderson1
@DrAnderson1 2 жыл бұрын
*I KNOW, RIGHT?* I’m glad it’s not just me…I couldn’t figure out if she changed something about her hair, but I think it’s just a new, extremely flattering style. It looks beautiful ❤️
@mrs_maverick1121
@mrs_maverick1121 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be so terrified to take a polygraph! I have SEVERE anxiety, because of that I already know that I could be being 100% truthful and it would show deception because it measures anxiety/nervousness, NOT lies/truthfulness!
@OurLargeFamilyLife
@OurLargeFamilyLife 2 жыл бұрын
Same. My ex use to abuse me for things that weren’t true. I was always so scared
@mrs_maverick1121
@mrs_maverick1121 2 жыл бұрын
@@OurLargeFamilyLife I think a DV past has something to do with mine also… but just the shear fact of having PTSD and an anxiety disorder IMO would be enough for me to cause a discrepancy on a polygraph… I’ve never done hours of research into them, but I can’t see how those could NOT affect results
@theexploraholic
@theexploraholic 2 жыл бұрын
My theory from part one still is possible. I was thinking the older brother killed Nicolas on accident while he was on drugs. He told his mom as he's freaking out and his mom decides to help cover things up so she doesn't lose both boys. They eventually tell the sister who helps cover things up as well. When they get the call, they think "this would be the perfect way to never have anyone look into it!" so the sister, who had the least to do with it, goes to Spain with pictures and poses as this innocent sister who wants to help her brother remember after all this time and fill him in on what he's missed. Maybe she even suggested he prove that he was Nicholas by identifying people in those pictures. The mom and brother cleaned up any lose ends while she retrieved Frederick. The brother still feels really guilty so he does not come to say hello. That explains the "good luck" comment - he knew that wasn't Nicholas. Maybe some people not super close to the family knew it wasn't him, but saw how passionately the family was accepting him, that they doubted themselves. The family thinks "if we do a couple interviews, it will publicly clear us from investigation." Frederick was very close to the family - on the inside - and he has a similar theory. That's all I'm saying.
@shannontrent9228
@shannontrent9228 Жыл бұрын
I agree! And if Nicholas' sister was always trying to keep the family together and grounded, she would be the one to take "Nicholas" in. She would have to know what happened to Nicholas. It's just so twisted because the mother leaned on Jason when he had an addiction as well, so however Nicholas got those bruises, it was being accepted by the rest of the family.
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why she brought all those pictures to Spain,it was like she was coaching him so he would recognize his family.
@OM-or3im
@OM-or3im 2 жыл бұрын
The story of Frederick is heartbreaking- poor kid was willing to do whatever necessary to look for someone to love him. Nicholas’s story is beyond upsetting.
@lauraderosa6099
@lauraderosa6099 2 жыл бұрын
Finally!! Stephanie, back in the day when I took Philosophy in college, we were posed this question...are humans inherently good? I was literally the only person in the class who said no. Actually, everyone in the class, including the professor was shocked and mortified that I said no! My reasoning is that although humans have the ability to good, we are not born good. We HAVE to be taught, we have to be guided, we have to be loved and we have to be cared for. So I 100% agree with your assessment that Nicholas was only the "bad kid" because he wasn't raised in a nurturing environment!!
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
You're talking about morals. I think people are either born good or evil. You can be good and behave badly. Parents job is to give kids that are inherently good the right scruples so they can consistently be good in their actions. But like when you kill a puppy in front of a child, they feel bad and cry. Because they inherently have empathy. But there are people born bad.
@kytruth1027
@kytruth1027 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I believe children are born good, but it's their environment and adults around them, that make them "bad" or act out.
@saturnmer9357
@saturnmer9357 2 жыл бұрын
I love how real and opinionated you are. Don't let anybody's comment question the hard work you put into these videos.
@DonnaLena1
@DonnaLena1 2 жыл бұрын
Nicholas, for all his troubles, sure was a cute little boy. My first instinct when listening to the first video describe his home life, was that he was a child in desperate need of a real parent.
@BG-ig6fd
@BG-ig6fd 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy story. Definitely agree that the brother and mother knew. Likely that brother killed him. The guilt consumed and then the fear and shame pushed him to suicide. Tragic. As far as kids being born bad. My half brother had all sorts of problems and an abusive father who had abandoned him. My mother tried desperately to get him help. The schools wouldn’t listen to her, just wanted to blame her (in the 70s and 80s). No money to send him to private therapy. He was labeled hyperactive in the early 70s. He had more issues than just that, but most were not even in the vernacular yet. If he had been born 30 years later, we would have had better explanations for what was going on with him. He fell into drugs at age 12/13. Wealthy, white drug dealers lived across the street. Because it was a nice neighborhood, the police wouldn’t listen to my mom when she pleaded with them to do something. Everyone was quick to judge my single parent mother, who was getting no help or support from anyone. No blame was ever placed on the abusive father who abandoned his son. Due to my own experience growing up in this household, I know that sometimes a parent does try their best and do a decent job with their child, but the child needs more help than they can give them. Society failed my half brother. I wouldn’t say my mother failed him.
@denisec7250
@denisec7250 2 жыл бұрын
I believe everything happens for a reason and by Frederick pretending to be that poor kid has brought light to the case. I believe Nicholas acting out was a call for help but everybody focuses on the behavior versus the root of the real problem. Wherever he is now I hope he is in a happier place.
@PhoenyxV
@PhoenyxV 2 жыл бұрын
It's a small detail and doesn't concretely point to guilt, but the fact that Beverly moved when her son was still missing, when you hear about so many parents of missing children who will stay in the same house, keep the same phone number, always leave the porch light on for the rest of their lives... I think that she knew Nicholas was never coming home. Some part of her, even if she buried it deep, knew that he was gone and not coming back. Even if she had nothing to do with it (iffy, but in my opinion if he was killed by a family member, it was the brother), she was able to leave the house her son would return to because she knew there was no way for him to return.
@plutonium2
@plutonium2 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't move out of a house for four extra years in case my cat came back. I think moving is totally wild.
@phyllisbarr4766
@phyllisbarr4766 2 жыл бұрын
definitely
@cjb2749
@cjb2749 2 жыл бұрын
I was also a teenager in the 90's, and I knew several kids who ran away similarly to the way that nicholas did. Sure, a lot of them eventually came back, but not all, and it wasn't uncommon for them to be gone for a year or more. When I was 14, my boyfriend actually hopped a train and took off to Sedona Arizona, which is NOWHERE NEAR where we're from. He stayed gone- calling me long distance from pay phones twice a month- until he was 17 and got caught shoplifting. When he turned 18, he left again, and never went back. When I was 15/16, I knew a whole group of guys that took off for an "adventure across the country" for an entire summer. They kept in touch with the rest of our friend group, but only 1 kept in touch with his family, and 2 of them stayed out and kept wandering for several months after the other 4 came back. My point is, when you're young and street smart, it's relatively easy to run off and figure out ways to take care of yourself. Especially in the 90's. In almost every major city there were networks of other teens who were neglected, abused, abandoned; etc, who had left home and were "on the streets." It wasn't hard to find your way into the networks. It was also MUCH easier to steal back then, and to get away with fake ID's and lying to police about who you were. Different resources could be found via food banks, churches, rec centers, clothes closets, even dhs offices would be helpful in some places. At the very least, you could walk into ANY dhs office or public health clinic and get a list of available resources. There is definitely room for hope that nicholas is still alive and simply decided to leave his former life behind him and never look back. With the type of family he had at home, it seems like a very real possibility. 🤞
@plutonium2
@plutonium2 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so how do you explain them taking in the Arabic French dude then?
@snoixalicious
@snoixalicious Жыл бұрын
@@plutonium2 okay now that one cant be explained that was a whole trainwreck
@jamimoor7311
@jamimoor7311 2 жыл бұрын
Bless his heart...of ALL the families poor Frederick could have ended up with. He went from one nutty family to the whole candy bar😭😭😭 looking for love in all the wrong places...glad He's got a good life with a family of his own now.
@brianaPB
@brianaPB 4 ай бұрын
I always love hearing you talk about your parenting views because knowing that we feel the same way about things makes me love you even more!
@smallbonsaitree
@smallbonsaitree Жыл бұрын
they definitely knew that that wasn’t their family member. My sister and I lost contact for 3 years and I recognized her immediately when I saw her again.
@maddie8415
@maddie8415 2 жыл бұрын
I did see the documentary and Fredrick seemed genuinely so baffled about the whole thing that I feel he was being honest. His theories about what happened just plain make sense, even if people don't want to believe him. There had to be a reason for the entire family accepting someone who was SO clearly not their son. Jason seemed to KNOW before he even saw this imposter that it was impossible for him to be his brother. Otherwise, why the lack of interest, especially after this "guilt" he had for letting Nicholas walk home from a place he walked TO...which feels excessive in the first place. The radical change Jason made in his life not long after Nicholas went missing does suggest he may have hit absolute rock bottom...and we have to wonder what inspired that change. If Jason did harm Nicholas it would make sense if it was substance-fueled. Not an excuse or justification, but a detail that helps explain it all. The fact that he died of a relapse and overdose or suicide by overdose right as soon as the heat was on him surrounding Nicholas' disappearance should make anyone feel there could be a reason for it. Thank you for calling out polygraphs for what they are, I've always found them lame. Psychopaths and sociopaths with no remorse are the people most likely to be able to "beat" a polygraph, and highly sensitive people seem more likely to "fail" them when being truthful...how ironic. And Stephanie, you're NOT being judgemental. Yes, occasionally there are kids who just have oppositional defiant disorder, no matter what you do, BUT it's more than clear that this kid was not given the attention and guidance a child needs. So...his home life was failing him, he was NOT given a fair shot, no matter what people want to say. You're on Nicholas' side, and that means calling out the people who failed him. It's just the facts.
@amieaiello3456
@amieaiello3456 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the farthest thing from judgemental! You nailed it once again here. I’m always blown away with the details, professionalism and insight you bring to EVERY case. I really appreciate your hard work! Much love to you sweetheart! Treat yourself to a relaxing massage and order out tonight! You deserve it!
@amym5114
@amym5114 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! Get Adam on that! Finish off with the wine of choice and get some good sleep!
@rosekennimer8647
@rosekennimer8647 2 жыл бұрын
just when i was going to exit youtube for the lack of true crime girlies you pop up with a video ! you always do amazing work and the way you format the story and focus on the victim is what makes me like your channel most
@sewgeekdesigns9113
@sewgeekdesigns9113 2 жыл бұрын
Same it’s low key been dead lately
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 2 жыл бұрын
I think her coverage of this complex, bizarre story is among the best things she has ever done! Just enthralling all the way through.
@erinlucas3888
@erinlucas3888 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Emma Kenny. She does a great deep dives.
@elisabethjoint4624
@elisabethjoint4624 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth hailey (Or hailey Elizabeth idk) is really good so are Bella fiori and Bailey sarian
@coffeeandcupcakes7310
@coffeeandcupcakes7310 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's dangerous to accuse people without being close to the case or having all the facts at your disposal. That being said I got really suspicious of the family from the very first video when the family saw this grown ass man claiming to be their son and accepted him without question. I immediately came to the conclusion that they must have known what happened to poor Nicholas.
@iowagirl9563
@iowagirl9563 2 жыл бұрын
What a tragic, beautiful, insane, bitter sweet story. Sad that Nicolas was never found. Then it's beautiful that Frederick finally found what he was chasing/wanting all his life. Love and a family. You told this story so beautflly.
@tigerlily102511
@tigerlily102511 2 жыл бұрын
First I would like to thank you Stephanie for revealing Frederick's upbringing. As a child abuse/molestation/SA survivor, I would like to point out that one's upbringing does have an impact on how they approach life and interact with others. Despite the fact that he did wrong when he lied about his identity, his intention was to find a family to love and accept him. Many people who suffered and survived through childhood trauma like abuse and abandonment have self-esteem issues and seek out people who can make them feel loved and accepted. Some will go to extremes to find these things. I suffered from physical abuse by both of my parents, then I was abandoned by my father twice, 1st time when my stepfather physically abused/sexually molested/assaulted me and 2nd time when a friend of his sexually assaulted me. This seriously effected the way I approached my relationships with pretty much everyone throughout school and adulthood. I had severe trust issues but I liked the thought of having a boyfriend because I thought they loved and accepted me for who I was when in all actuality, they were guys with hormones. So high school was rough for me especially since I was considered "prude" due to all of my trauma. But I was taken out of my abusive environment and raised by my grandmother for the last 3 years of highschool. She taught me good work ethic and how to stand up for myself. She taught me how protect myself and how harness my trust issues into critical thinking. So I had a positive upbringing at the end. Yes I still trusted the wrong people and made mistakes. I am human but I had a positive influence in my life that made all the difference. Unfortunately in the situation of both these boys, they never really had any positive guidance. Frederick was taken from his mother and faced trauma that we will never know about. Nicholas faced trauma as well and was considered a bad kid. His sister was the only one who seemed decent. His mother abused drugs which is why his brother developed a habit. Neither Frederick nor Nicholas had any positive parental guidance that would make a difference in their lives. Sadly Nicholas never got the chance to turn his life around before he disappeared. Frederick was a chameleon and went to great lengths to find people who would love and accept him no matter what the cost. I feel empathy toward Frederick because I know first hand how trauma effects one's life. Unfortunately, without a positive influence to show love, acceptance and support, Frederick sought out what he needed by doing unscrupulous things. I'm sure that he hurt people in the process but in his mind, the end justified the means. I'm not saying it's right but that was his reality.
@summerb5153
@summerb5153 2 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out for the two boys, Federic and Nicholas. Their lives were rough and people who were supposed to love them failed them.
@leahlewis6487
@leahlewis6487 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss!!!!! I’m not gonna lie, I was stalking you tube today hoping for part 2 👀👀👀👀 Thanks so much for spoiling us. This will get me thru until Sunday when I get my CW fix 💕
@Mo0may
@Mo0may 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree. People have lost sight of the most important thing. Where is Nicholas and what happened to him? It’s disgusting that so many people have let this kid fall through the cracks.
@bootsielovesjesus7097
@bootsielovesjesus7097 28 күн бұрын
I remember when this happened. You did a VERY GOOD JOB presenting the many unique facets of the case! BIG PROPS! I LOVE HOW YOU ALWAYS KEEP IT REAL, BUT you also show sincere empathy💯❣
@ranzbomb9488
@ranzbomb9488 2 жыл бұрын
Love that you covered this case, blows my mind how much ppl choose to believe what they want despite the truth starring at them in the face!
@yeni32
@yeni32 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie you literally have no idea how happy your uploads make me. I truly respect you hard work, you're amazing!!!
@StephanieHarlowe
@StephanieHarlowe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@rustyblonchjr8660
@rustyblonchjr8660 2 жыл бұрын
@@StephanieHarlowe where do you take case requests
@screamqueen1946
@screamqueen1946 2 жыл бұрын
I got my sister obsessed with Stephanie too bc I wouldn't shut up about her 🤣
@hannahbeanies8855
@hannahbeanies8855 2 жыл бұрын
What Frederick did was far from right, however, it is forgivable I think. This may be the most clear cut case of a person needing rehabilitation rather than punishment that I’ve seen.
@mojo2679
@mojo2679 Жыл бұрын
Stephanie you put other true crime KZbinrs to shame. You’re excellent. 💯 agree wrt kids acting up being caused by emotional stress.
@YouTube.Tiffany
@YouTube.Tiffany 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from San Antonio. I remember Heidi and Erika's story and Nicholas Barclay. I'm so glad you're covering this story from my hometown. I have always wanted to hear a more indepth story about Heidi Seeman and Erika Botello, there isn't much in the true crime community. From personal experience, I lived on the north east side of town growing up and around the age of 8 or 9, was home alone (this was around 1992ish) and a small red car with a man driving approached me, trying to ask me for directions while I was skating outside my home ALONE. I ran in my skates to my house yelling, "dad, dad, dad!" And the guy sped off. But it was terrifying. I never told my parents. But looking back I lived really close to where Heidi was abducted from, so it was a terrifying time in the early 90s. I personally think drugs were a huge problem in San Antonio (still kinda are), but I think maybe this kid really did get abducted & his mom just didn't give a shit. As sad as that sounds. I also grew up in a very very similar household with a mom who was (still is) on heroin/meth. However; after years finally CPS took me and my little sister away and put us in foster care in 1995 when I was 12. Anywho - thank you Stephanie for covering this story from my city & also seeing the small correlation between Nicholas, Heidi, and Erika - I do hope you can do a story on the girls unsolved case someday. ♥️
@emilyjoeblow9755
@emilyjoeblow9755 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Dear Tiffany, I’m so freaking sorry to hear that you’ve endured so much trauma & pain. However, I’m so glad to see that you’re a survivor. With a strong will, compassion, and an urge to help others. I don’t know you, but I care about you deeply as my fellow human being. Thank you for sharing a little bit of your story. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your comment. Take care of yourself!! 🤗 💜
@Beragon
@Beragon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this so soon and for the great discussion. Very thorough. Nicholas is dead and Jason did it. The mother is a piece of work. She raised a violent drug addict and a young hellion. She herself was a hardcore drug user. Jason went to rehab from remorse after the murder, bc drugs made him violently act out against Nicholas, and ODed from fright when he felt he was about to be caught. Frederick was a godsend because he got the family off the hook. Suddenly, there was no family secret of a child murder. We're all in the clear! If Jason had been smarter, he would have embraced Frederick more than anyone. But I guess he was so freaked out about Frederick he didn't know what to do.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
I think the mom killed him. The brother knows and is on drugs because of an abusive mother and dysfunction his whole life.
@shellybuttrum8869
@shellybuttrum8869 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie. When you were telling about how you felt physically, I totally get it. I'm exactly the same way. It's so hard to have days where you physically can't get up.
@LightsCameraActWithAlyssiaD
@LightsCameraActWithAlyssiaD 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I often feel like i don't know anyone that experiences this too. She said it so perfectly and it made me feel a little less asha,ed and alone that I have very similar cycles. And it is a frustrating way to go through life but at the same time, it's hard to avoid/control.
@mickeyphillips6603
@mickeyphillips6603 2 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh out loud when you said ‘he had a 5 o’clock shadow, man’. Thanks for another great video.
@tinabeam7180
@tinabeam7180 2 жыл бұрын
As a child I thought I was adopted and hoped and prayed my real loving family would come find me. Unfortunately that wasn’t the case. I feel so compassionate for Fredrick but also the anger of Nicholas Barclay. The system and people failed him more than we should’ve. It’s so heartbreaking. I don’t comment a lot but I love all your channels and your coverage.
@jillianpw9789
@jillianpw9789 Жыл бұрын
I love that you stand your ground, and ignore your haters! You’re absolutely right, children have to be molded, given love, security, stability, in order to be better human beings. Very seldom if they lack all of that including love, they’re going to turn out to be troublesome. There are occasions where you can have a healthy loving home, and they still grow up to be monsters or murderers, but that’s not the normality. I do hope that someway somehow There is a ending to his story, whether or not he’s found dead or alive, that there’s some kind of closure to this. I am new to your channel, but everything I’ve heard so far, you become one of my favorites. Keep up the good work girl, and have a great weekend
@BluKittenExtensions
@BluKittenExtensions 2 жыл бұрын
A note on Beverly's second polygraph: if she was made to take the test after the drugs left her system, she would have been in heroin withdrawal - incredibly anxious, sweating, shaking, and her blood pressure would have been elevated. In my opinion, the first one was probably the more accurate of the two, and having her take the second one sober, knowing she was a long time heroin user was pretty much a trap to make sure she failed.
@lorimoore5589
@lorimoore5589 2 жыл бұрын
Not if she was also on methadone. Heroine users on methadone don't get withdrawal from heroine. The withdrawal from methadone takes 3 days, so unless they had her wait 3 days she was feeling perfectly fine, which they should have known. I also don't think methadone, when takin daily would alter a lie detector test like other drugs would because your body is acclimated to it, you don't feel it at all, it just keeps you from going into withdrawal so maybe that's why they didn't consider that it would effect the lie detector an just waited for the others drugs to leave her system.
@screamqueen1946
@screamqueen1946 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I had an issue with pain meds many moons ago, my hands specifically would sweat a lot, panic attacks & tremors, all of which would explain Beverly, especially if she was addicted to alcohol as well.
@screamqueen1946
@screamqueen1946 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorimoore5589 would it stop alcohol withdrawals? Cuz those def give the shakes bad, but I'm not sure if she was addicted to that as well, or just under the influence of it.
@julielevinge266
@julielevinge266 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you withdraw from methadone! What nonsense!!! If they had a drug that stopped withdrawels it would be 100% successful in curing addiction! Methadone is very similar to heroin comes in white power is dissolved first 1ml per mg? Now it is hardly ever used the drug that’s taken it’s place prevents the user from using heroin on top of it as it will have no effect. 3 days to withdraw??? Depends on your metabolism but for most 12 to 24 hours but as your given just enough to stop you withdrawing she may well have been withdrawing under stress.
@kbm2055
@kbm2055 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorimoore5589 I agree. I think it was just a matter of making sure that the effects of the drugs wore off. Withdrawal wasn't a factor.
@mirandax0x
@mirandax0x 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! I had total faith you would also question why Jason didn't buy it, if he knew more than he should have. Because from the beginning Jason gave sus vibes.
@132robloxmaster
@132robloxmaster 2 жыл бұрын
How do you not have millions of followers? Ugh, I so love getting my Steph Harlowe notifications!! I’ve found myself rewatching old episodes when I don’t have any new content. So grateful for the second part today! Thank you ❤️
@magellantv
@magellantv 2 жыл бұрын
This one just hurts our heart in so many ways.
@ing.m97
@ing.m97 Жыл бұрын
It's heartbreaking that so many strangers OUT HERE care for him (Nicholas) and are advocating his case... when his own family (mother *cough *cough) didn't. But it's also wonderful seeing how many "good" people there are out here; strangers from all over the world, who can love you more than your own ever did and have the capacity for compassionate that he needed. Imagine if a stranger took compassion on him and took him as a mentee, the difference it could have made to his young life. If someone only gave a shit when he was here.
@necroman0011
@necroman0011 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most fascinating and entertaining true crime story I've EVER listened to, thank you so much for this Stephanie! I've been 100% certain Jason killed his own brother ever since he said "good luck" to the imposter. Hopefully they find his remains one day. I also think that Frederic has an extremely high IQ and that his suspicions of the family should be taken more seriously, he did live with them after all.
@dlbstl
@dlbstl 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Good point about Frederick.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
My thought was that the mom has been abusing him and killed him. The brother and sister have been living with an abusive mother and dysfunctional family so long..who knows what they are thinking. But the mom is really weird.
@lucyhouse
@lucyhouse 2 жыл бұрын
Saved to watch after therapy today. Thank You Stephanie.. you’re doing an amazing job covering this 💖
@pammmmm
@pammmmm 2 жыл бұрын
I find it odd that so many times I’ve empathy for the “bad guy” I’m with Stephanie that yes at some point we all choose, but so many of these people I feel don’t have a foundation to even choose what is a better solution. In this particular case I do blame the parents of Fredrick and Nicholas...... I’m not finished with this episode but I felt that his older brother was somehow involved with Nicholas missing..... I guess I’ll see if I’m right! Great story as usual ❤️❤️
@British719
@British719 2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to anything really, but I just adore the way Stephanie says "documentary"!
@dBurgoyne
@dBurgoyne 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for caring about Nicholas, Stephanie. 💜 And Frédéric, as well.
@christinestout7863
@christinestout7863 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you for sharing this extremely intriguing, but sad story with us. Personally, I think a family member knew Nicholas was dead. And yes, I think it was the obvious, Jason. He wouldn’t go see him, died of overdose after years of sobriety. I just think, it all fits. Sometimes what’s right in front of you, winds up being what happened. Thanks again, I enjoyed this one a lot!!!
@AbsyntheAndTears
@AbsyntheAndTears 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly- Occam's razor.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
I think the mom killed him.
@belladonna5904
@belladonna5904 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jason was upset about Nicholas asking for a ride was because he's afraid of waking the mom up. Something is really wrong with the mom. She's not right.
@lindsayfrey7892
@lindsayfrey7892 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard this story many times. I've never been able to wrap my head around Nicholas' family being fooled by Frederick. I understand they wanted answers, they wanted him to be home. But that is your child, sibling. Yes, 3 years is a period of time. But your child doesn't go from a baby faced 13 year old to a 16 year old with a suddenly much larger nose & five o'clock shadow & looks like he's in his 30s.
@kytruth1027
@kytruth1027 2 жыл бұрын
?? I'm confused by this comment. I think it's pretty obvious most of the family knew it wasn't him..the sister was the only one that really thought it was him. Probably bc 1 or more members of the family had something to do with his disappearance.
@karentucker2161
@karentucker2161 2 жыл бұрын
​@@kytruth1027 you missed the first part. I have heard of this story on another channel and they never mention the fact that most of them knew it wasn't him.
@plutonium2
@plutonium2 2 жыл бұрын
@@karentucker2161 yeah that's really just Stephanie's take. Many report it as them fully believing it.
@corinnegivens8547
@corinnegivens8547 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched so many documentaries on this case & other youtubers have covered it but even though I know a good amount on this case when Stephanie covers it it's like I've never heard about it. She's an amazing story (case) teller. If Stephanie & Mr. Ballen did a collab I'd be in youtube heaven my head would probably explode🤯Stephanie if you read this your hair has been looking gorgeous not that it always hasn't but the red is poppin I really need to know that color! Thanks girl💜✌
@tracyreed3155
@tracyreed3155 2 жыл бұрын
I have recently found Mr. Ballen. I was not sure if he was going to hold my interest, because I really love hearing Stephaine tell these stories and I like when they’re more than a half an hour. But it turns out I enjoy him quite a bit! 🙂
@CaseyMarie11-11
@CaseyMarie11-11 2 жыл бұрын
I commented on her hair looking so bright and vibrant from part 1 😁 she said she just got a touch up bc her roots were showing 😊
@Anna_Czar_nas
@Anna_Czar_nas 11 ай бұрын
I completely share your empathy for Frederick. I went through similar problems as a child. Telling stories and deception was part of his survival mechanism. I got withdrawn and later was diagnosed with ADD.
@jo-eo9ld
@jo-eo9ld 2 жыл бұрын
You do the most thorough coverage of any true-crime channel/podcast that I frequent and you always have something new and thought-provoking to the cases as well. I love that you state all the facts, frankly state your personal opinions, and also offer up your theories to what may have actually taken place. You are very smart, well spoken and fun and, on top of all that, I truly believe you are more capable than a lot of investigators actually working in the field.
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