TKS Rocket Race // Awesomeness by Kevin Langlois // Pushing Micro Limits

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Special Thanks to Kevin Langlois (TKS Designer) and Jack Higgins (Jacks3dPrinting.com -Frame Source). Kevin on Facebook facebook.com/kevin.langlois.39 Jacks3DPrinting on Facebook facebook.com/groups/315905552404441/ Please let me know what you think and any additional sources for the UZ85 and/or parts in stock.

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

Have you tried the Happymodel 1102 19000kv? I'm wondering what size of prop it can run

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@thirtythreeeyes8624 I have but sparingly and only the 1mm shaft versions. Its a 1s motor, and it can handle the gemfan 2023 prop pretty well. Again I have flown those sparingly.

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks

[@meracing6034]

Really funny. I made a Gnarly Meemo more than 2 years ago with these motors and props and it's same weight as your heavy build (yeah you sure feel it). Also with rubber band and a nano VTX and nano 3 cam. Used a Eachine novice-I 1-2S board. Still love this thing. Your build is like a next level. Nice job.

[@dextergreenman2162]

I didn't find your link for the CLI, and the other settings you named in the video. Can you link it again? Thanks. The video is so good I want to have the exact same one for my own.

[@jakestyles002]

When someone has flown as many quads as you have, one must pay close attention to the one is the "favorite". Thank you for your work!

[@pushies5]

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[@johnlheneghan1630]

I haven’t heard the word hobbyking in years. I use to get all my rc plane parts from them

[@MrLaserpowered]

Same. For me the shipping cost got out of control and then the item prices went up making it a bad value. After a delivery was missing items and fighting with HK for weeks, that put the nail in the coffin. Occasionally I buy a graphene nano-tech battery on ebay.

[@djilly75]

I still buy from them. They have great lipo sales

[@squaddingquads]

Same

[@bushcrafter6416]

Cool, I just bought a Grand Avios from Hobbyking!!!Love it!!!

[@MrLaserpowered]

You need a branded product!! TKS Rocket Nick Burns edition.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol,Thank you but nah. I am good with just exploring the micro fpv space.

[@MysteryD]

Remarkable. It's very very hard to believe it flies that well considering its size. No over-hype on your end. I was blown away with the footage.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. It means a lot getting confirmation. I often worry about my own excitement and sometimes lack of excitement in videos

[@miquelmarti6537]

Hi! I just printed the TKS frame from thingiverse in normal PLA. That thing rips hard, I didn't expect that. I used 2s 450mA and total weight was 70g. It lasted almost 6 minutes of fast cruising. I am speechless. Thank you Nick for recommending that.

[@michaelmatthews6421]

I can really tell this is your favorite from the time you put into listing all the parts!! Hopefully the chip shortage will be over soon and we can get back to... normal? Great job. Good review, glad to see you so enthusiastic about a quad.....its been a while

[@ndmfpv1776]

No way you’re overhyped that thing is perfect for dads that don’t have time to travel to fly. I need it! 😂

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Great. Thank you

[@technoxtreme178]

A couple of tips regarding rubber bands... I used to build a lot of rubber powered models and some of the wings of my 2M sailplanes are still attached with rubber bands. 1) Use two to hold anything of value (such as that Insta360) ... don't leave anything with rubber bands on it out in the sun, and...oil them ever so slightly and they will last a lot longer ...they weaken when either exposed to UV, or if they dry out.

[@wmcewa01]

I’m a big fan - will be nice when parts are back in stock!

[@subtilo3322]

Man I get so thrilled on how you are motivated about this one. Never seen you like this! Now I'm really interested

[@NickBurnsFPV]

:). Its been hard to hold back and follow through. I really wanted to make a video about this weeks ago :)

[@volkergoe]

It's so nice to see you found your perfect build (for now ;-) ). The confidence it gives you "instantly" boosted your flying skills. And by instantly I mean the 300 packs you ran through it to find that perfect combination of components. Now: powerloop your patio!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I was thinking about that powerloop. Tried it a number of times with a different quad, got hung up in trees on both sides and blew a bunch out. Need to get that touch on the throttle just so. Working on it

[@volkergoe]

@@NickBurnsFPV start with flying it from outside your patio as a high, banked turn (like the punshouts over your house) and slowly get more vertical. Looking forward too see more of you as usual!

[@electroddxful]

You are not over hyping it. That little thing is a beast. Love them🙏👍🙏👍🙏👍

[@pavalige]

In my humble opinion you like it so much because it flies like a 5 inch from what I can see ....it is impressive

[@spectrexfpv]

The joy of getting some 1s frame/recommended setups to 2s is only second to the 4s and 6s jump. Great review, Nick!

[@davepowell1407]

Finally got one of these built and it is definitely my new quad! Thanks for the video!!!

[@MCsCreations]

Damn! That little thing is fast! 😮 What most impressed me is that it seems to carry some weight in the dives! Fantastic! 😃 Amazing flying and review, Nick!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@jkbradford8]

i really enjoyed your very genuine enthusiasm throughout this video as well as the broken up format for commenting

[@richardvaughan6289]

Nick I like when you really like some quad cause it shows and it seems to boost your energy and enthusiasm

[@betitaelfica2]

Greate video. I also have the uz85 moved to a 105mm frame. In my case I use the redevil 105mm frame + 2.5" props + crazybeeX v2.2 + eachine vtx nano v1 + xm+ receiver. This combination has a reason: One day the antenna pad went off, so I get an external receiver. Another day some ESC mosfet burned so I get a new v2.2 FC with the PNP option. Some days later the onboard VTX didn't work anymore, so I get an external VTX (crazybeex v2.2 has that option, v1.0 not). I finally I mounted it on a 105 frame haha Some things that I recommend in my experience with that FC: Flash ESC 16.9 over the stock 16.8 (it will save your drone in some crashes, I lost 2-3 FC with the 16.8 version, seems that the props get stuck and the mosfet burns). Another thing, I also used a printed canopy like yours (the blue one) and was the day that my onboard VTX died. After that day I printed a closed canopy to protect all my board, it's double weight but it's ok for me. I did a design of it by mixing the blue one with another one which has 4 holes with a spider web design. You can find it by searching "caddx ant lite canopy" in thingiverse (it's the green one). I really appreciate that you shared the "emax tape", I was searching for it but I never known how to search it. I think it's so usefull when you share specific tools/material related to drones. Last day I removed the circlips from the 1102 and 1202.5 motors and it was difficult for the 1202.5, I don't know if there is any specific tool for the dimension of that motors. cheers.

[@NicholasSTParker]

It's unreal how nice the Baby Ratel 2 looks... Totally worth the extra bit of weight in my opinion. I was gonna build a 3s Twiglet but this looks more fun

[@multirotormanish7220]

Excellent video Nick! And no, your not falsely overhyping the TKS. The frames work great and you just cannot beat the size, performance and cost to make one. I typically fly 5" but I am finding myself flying 1S and 2S TKS frames due to the ease of simply being accessible. I thoroughly enjoyed this video to the end!!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. I am with you, these tiny quads can be so easy to find time to fly and won’t bother people

[@illdogfpv6888]

That looks perfect! I almost purchased that board a few times... Love the baby ratel 2 camera. Maybe a build in my future!

[@brianfreland9065]

The new 2s mobula8 is a great quad to grab for rocket race parts! It has motor plugs, it has an xt30 already on it. Grab a mob8 and a frame from jacks 3d printing andbyoure good to go! It has 1103 11,000 kv motors that come with it olus a happymodel X12 5-in1 AIO board and the cam and everything's youll need! You can swap out motors if you like but i just grab 2 or 3 mob8's a bunch of carbon frames from jack, and then ill grab motors here and there if i see some i want to tru onnit and i ALWAYS have spare parts for my rocket race with all the bnf mob8's laying around. Plus you can fly those mob8's if you want a whoop for a specific situation! Life is easy now! Lmao

[@kenhartman29115]

I don't mind long videos. It made me buy the stuff to try this project too.

[@madprops526]

Nick i gotta say you are looking very healthy these days. i usually watch your latest videos and i remember you talking about life changes, then this video auto plays and i could tell it was an older video. 2022 is going to be a great year. god bless you and yours!

[@hutchracing4680]

There is a rubber paint that you can spray your boards with that locks all the water out and makes them essentially waterproof. I have flown my waterproof Woop for 3 winters now and it's still running strong.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

At some point, maybe now, I need to water proof a quad for rainy days. Its really rare we have so many consecutive days of rain.

[@miguelt.7997]

Word of warning about the UZ85, used it for this build. Motors only took a mild crash for 2 motor to break. Shaft broke on one of them and a magnet came out of the other one.

[@chrisbee5481]

I broke 3 motors. My fault. This is not for inside. Also broke 2 caddy ant lite. It just shot up im the level mode. Used the stock uz85 tune. Im not a good tuner

[@WingDingMcKing]

Yeah shoutout to those nanotech 300mah! I've been using them exclusively for a while now. Started with them on my Trashcan, then on my GnarlyFPV Primo 65mm. I get crazy flight times on 65mm biblades, pushing 5-6mins at times, but then the quad is about as light as your heavier TKS just with larger props and 8000kv 1103s. As far as the connector goes, I actually keep the red JST. I think it's got more than enough current throughput for 2S, especially for a more efficient build, and I think it's a little lighter too. In fact, the lower current throughput means I haven't had any of the 5V reg issues that used to plague happymodel boards since it wouldn't allow the same spike you'd get with an XT30.

[@motorazr5012]

Thanks for a great tiny whoop channel with awesome content, Nick! I've tried the 75mm Rocket, the 78mm Rocket Race, and the 83mm Echo 2-inch. I've found the 75mm frame is great with 40mm props. The 83mm frame is awesome with 2-inch (52mm) props. On the other hand, I found the 78mm Rocket Race almost pointless - it's super tight with even 51mm props and chunkier than it needs to be. I'd MUCH rather fly the 83mm Echo 2-inch. The 90mm Starlord is overbuilt and too heavy while the 101mm Echo 2.5-inch should be great with 2.5-inch props (I've got one on the way). You recommended the Crux 3 canopy and I tried that but found it to be VERY brittle - each of two shattered on their first crash. The Eachine CineFun canopy would be perfect for any camera with a larger, ~12-13mm lens (eg; Caddx EOS2, Runcam Split 3). Maybe I'll try the UZ85 or UZ80 canopy if they can be found? The StorkFly rubber bands are great as is the Gennel 10mm cloth adhesive tape (aka; "EMAX tape") from Amazon. I appreciate your sharing!

[@noforyoutubepremium3108]

I've been using Hobbyking NanoTech batteries for quite some time now. Yes, they do last a long, long time if you use storage voltage when they're not being flown. Yes, Hobbyking is THE BEST PLACE FOR SUPERB DEALS ON LIPO's! Sure, you do have to swap out the red JST connector on occasion or sometimes another connector, but I bought a 50 pack of XT30's long ago of from Banggood because I knew going in, that Hobbyking for some unknown reason still has a lot of batteries with the wrong connector on it! They do have many more XT30 connector batteries than they've ever had before though. So, they're coming around, it's just been slow! lol But, just browse through their battery selection... I was just doing that looking for 850mah 4s for my soon to arrive Emax Babyhawk2 HD quad. I looked at all of the sites and Hobbyking has around 4 - 6 850mah 4s that were a lower price than ANY other dealer had available! Some quality Nanotech's were 3 - 6 bucks less each than other sites had! I can literally buy my favorite 850mah 4s from Hobbyking and get 3 for the price of 2 from the cheapest alternative from other sites. They have a free shipping program too, but I happen to live about 15 minutes drive from the Hobbyking Warehouse in Tualatin, OR, so I can simply run over and pick them up! Bottom line: I think Hobbyking is BY FAR the best place to buy lipo's for our quads and their lipos are very good quality and THE BEST price period anywhere. A superb selection too. TheirGarphene batteries are among the very best batteries I have ever used in my 4.5 years in FPV! Great prices for Graphene too. They have about six 850mah 4s to choose from...name one other site that has that many of one size of lipo tp choose from. Now, get on their email newsletter (sales email) and get ready for their Battery Blowout sale! Holy Cow they have great deals - so far and away better than any other site in the world, it ain't even close! Highly recommended!!! =(:^)-

[@yohfpv]

This quad is like the new and improved interpretation of your Byte Size quad from MaximusFPV that you reviewed back in Nov 2018. The specs are very similar size-wise. Comparing the videos gives good perspective on where the improvements in hardware had been. To my eyes, the most notable improvements had been made with the camera and props. Thanks for the thorough presentation of the TKS, I really enjoyed it.

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick Great video on your favorite quad. I came really close to taking my mobula 6 apart for I can build my ION3 because of jello in my video, and I wanted something else than a whoop. But I still love flying it. I guess I will look for a Donner quad. Thanks again for all of the information and parts to build a new 2in

[@InsaneClownFpv]

The larva x. Is what this reminds me of.. the larva x is probe my favorite

[@sixtofive]

Still one of my favorites as well! I've gotten a lot of great flights out of that one. After switching out the camera for a caddx baby ratel the dvr picture was a huge improvement.

[@sixtofive]

Best source I've found for those wider rubber bands in that size is bundles of asparagus at the grocery store. I always have my wife save them for me. As long as you don't mind purple I guess lol.

[@csg2000]

Asparagus bands are what I use to hold the wings on my flitetest planes. Best rubber bands out there, plus you can grill up the asparagus with a little bit of soy sauce on them.

[@FpvBudgetBuilds]

Great video. Thank you for the time you put into the video and all the parts lists and links. Im planning my orders right now. 🤙

[@MapNTrowel]

Great job Nick! Looks like loads of fun. I just built a 1S version on the TKS Rocket Freestyle frame with NewBeeDrone BeeBrain canopy, 40mm Azi props and 0802 20,000kv plaid motors, RunCam Nano 3, and a HappyModel Diamond F4 5-in-1 aio. It's super light (20 grams dry) and tons of fun. Can't wait to try the 2S version on the TKS Rocket Race frame. Thanks for all your work to materialize this concept.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That sounds like a nice setup. I hear good things about the plaid motors. I have a 1s quad with the TW Onesies 22000kv. I need to fly that one more. :)

[@lmichaelross]

I ordered the frame and uz85. I did the mod that Mr. Shutterbug did on the nanohawk, where he removed the bumper/ducts, added bigger props, and I love love love it!!! I am really excited for a 2s like this!!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is a way around needing to buy a tks frame for sure. Good to enjoy your flights.

[@TitanFPV]

In Vader voice: “Impressive!” I think the TBS 2s 300 HVs would be a good fit as well.

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick, Great video and review of the TKS Rocket race. UZ85 is unavailable, but I found some parts that I like. Thanks for the video and information about this quad

[@matred3538]

I really like this set up as the 2 inch whoop, but managed to get a UZ85 from Banggood so I think I will try this to. Many thanks as always Nick for your excellent work in the field of micros. ( It reminds me of a lightweight larva x on 2 inch props, which I may try because I'm in the UK so big postage, and have a spare 3 hole larva x frame) Found the Geelang 85x frame for £7 which I think will be better than the Larva x as an alternative.

[@chrisbee5481]

Hey, how did the geelang wasp 85X frame go ? Thinking of that too, because its available to europe over BG express.

[@matred3538]

@@chrisbee5481 Hello there, unfortunately the wasp85x frame has different three hole motor mounting. But I'm going to try and drill it out when my drill arrives...

[@chrisbee5481]

@@matred3538 Thanks. Just ordered the wasp frame. Are you going to drill new holes or is it possible to modify them with a fine dremel grinding bit? So kind of extend them to the inside. There is also an alternative 3mm thicker frame with multiple choice frame holes for the Larva X. It is just big with 100mm. What i mean with the holes extended is like on this frame too m.banggood.com/Happymodel-Larva-X-Spare-Part-Upgrade-V2-3mm-Bottom-Plate-3K-Carbon-Fiber-for-RC-Drone-FPV-Racing-p-1589796.html?gmcCountry=DE&LP-0630&currency=EUR&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ad_id=445457187820&gclid=CjwKCAjwoNuGBhA8EiwAFxomA6IcQMuybxMnNTcrmc_b13gKRoG_veKQ33EY0YYjkIRU0Pqidyn1bRoCWB8QAvD_BwE

[@matred3538]

@@chrisbee5481 I am going to try and Dremel out the wasp85x frame and I already had the larvaX frame, which works well on 2" props and is super tough. I've run both 1102 and 1103 motors on the larvaX frame, because it's bigger it's really stable. Happy building, I really enjoy this size quad also in whoop form because I fly in a park area.

[@matred3538]

@@chrisbee5481 my Dremel arrived and the wasp85x frame drilled out fine and it looks and flies great with 1102 motors. And just 5mm or so different from the frame Nick used, and we can get it in Europe.. Hope your build turns out great, I think this is going to be my favourite micro park flyer.

[@jeffro1005]

My frames will be here Saturday. Went with 1102 18000kv and 1s building a 2s also. That thing rips man

[@noforyoutubepremium3108]

BEWARE: 18000kv on 2s could lead to issues! Too high of KV for 2s, I believe.

[@jeffro1005]

@@noforyoutubepremium3108 oh yeah definitely only 1s for the 1102 18000kv

[@toddspeck9415]

Awesome seeing your favorite quad.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is the one I keep on my desk and batteries charged for. Always ready to go have some micro fun

[@djs134]

That house punch was insane for that little build! Wish they made a bnf, I hate sourcing parts in tiny builds

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yea, it sure is fun. I have heard happymodel has started communicating with Kevin the designer. Maybe they will make one. I think more people would enjoy it.

[@jcfpv3454]

wow this is so cool i am really starting to fall for these micros there so much more fun and handle way better

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Micros have come so far in a short time.

[@akatopj22]

Exactly what I was looking for.

[@valden]

Looks good nick, I got all the parts in this week, plan on putting both a 1s 75mm and the 2s on the 78mm race.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Nice. Let me know what you think, and of course which you prefer :)

[@EdturdEnfart]

Using the espresso motors from newbeedrone, if i could fly one quad id probably still pick the babytooth/ or something similar just because i can still use 1s and still have the performance and silence

[@slowentropy4531]

Really reminds me of the Tinyhawk 2 hey, very very cool.

[@fabianlujan6092]

Hey Nick, it would be nice if you could provide us with a CLI dump for the Rocket Race 2s for Betaflight, making the build with the Happy Model AIO X12 board, it would be highly appreciated. :)

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

I still love my little 65mm quad, it is not a whoop but it is a little carbon frame with a 1S 16x16 flight stack!

[@BMFPV]

Just built the UZ80 but this looks fantastic! May be a Winter build for me.

[@Quad66]

I’m glad to see you enjoying this build. I feel this size/class got left behind with the move on to 3 inch 3S and a lot was lost in the process. I am loving a build the the jhemcu 16x16 board, the old amax 1103 7500kv motors and with GF 2512 props. Also on the shorter wider 300-350 2S cells. With the GNB cells the lower 300mah with the 70c rating are far better than the 350mah 50c. My build is a slightly bigger footprint but still light and nimble enough to be crazy fun. What will be awesome is when we get the expresslrs 2S board. I find the lower latency is an even greater benefit on these little quads since they lend themselves well to fly tight and on reaction rather than flow and anticipation.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Word on the street about the AIO expresslrs is no vtx on the board. Small sacrifice. :)

[@Quad66]

Nick Burns good to know. on these 1102s I’ve found better durability/quality in the Geprc though they are slightly less efficient than the HM. With that said, I was also doing the 1102 builds before these small GF triblades came out so with better balanced props maybe the motor is a little less of a factor.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Quad66 The HM motors are also generally lighter than their counters parts. Likely why they are less durable

[@BCRM007]

What a rocket !! My favorite is a similar build with 2” twig frame from betafpv, 1102 18k kv motors 1s, 4 bladed prop. I fly at night and it’s very quiet ,Florida it’s too hot to Fly during the day

[@valden]

Curious what battery you run and how that goes for you? I've been wanting to try this with the 1102 18000kv also but thought that might be a tad high kv. How's the flight time? 👍

[@BCRM007]

@@valden 450mah from racedayquads(gnb) it’s the sweet spot I get 3 to 3.5 min,you probably can go with a 600mah but I would put a better connector than PH2

[@chrisbee5481]

What is your ESC rating on 1S? 5A or more? I would like to build a 2.5 inch with these 10000 KV on 1S ultra light 27g dry weight. Just not sure of I need the 18000 or 13000 kv instead. My esc are only 5A so lower KV should be more efficient and less current draw.

[@valden]

@@chrisbee5481 your best bet with 2.5inch/65mm props is to go with 13500kv motors if you can. Betafpv 1102 13500kv or happymodel 1102 13500kv. They are kinda tough to find stateside and be sure you get the 1.5mm motor shaft version and NOT the 1mm shaft version. If you have issues finding those, I think something like an a 12000kv 1103 like a diatone toka or pyrodrone hyperlite 1103.5 would work pretty well too. You CAN go with the 18k but it will be twitchy unless you put a motor limit on them.

[@BCRM007]

@@chrisbee5481 Is just your regular 5 amp happymodel diamond all in one I agree with Josh go with a 13kv motors I did find 65mm a little over prop for these 1102s but still fun

[@quadcopterchameleons9289]

Omg I love this drone. One o myf favorites builds.

[@JackalFPV]

Awesome Nick!

[@blazejohnnycash369]

It's perfect!! I want one! I wish there was a kit.......

[@EdturdEnfart]

i did everything the same as you did except my rates love this thing it is amazing i appreciate everything you do for this hobby !

[@TrentTationnaiseXization]

Feedback: seems solid. I have the stuff for this build. Giving me inspiration.

[@imu4869]

Thabks, I'm ordering few frames. I love the micro class. Great backyard flying. Would like to see some spec races with these toothpicks. #goals

[@backyardr.c.channel4732]

Man I wished I ordered a few of those ur85's when I had a chance! Build 2 so far one with the mobula 7f3 flight controller and camera! Running 1102 9000kv happymodel motors with the gemfan 2015 props on 2s. And the other is a mobula 6 flight controller camera and the betafpv 1102 18000 kv on 1s. The 1s is insane but a bit floaty vs the 2s version. Either way I love them and i even have a 40mm version for slower flying. I agree these are the best especially for the backyard!

[@chrisbee5481]

I used the Twiglet mini frame instead. Seems awesome quality and a good alternative if you cant get the TKS frame in europe. The geelang wasp85x frame doesnt fit the motors. You need to widen the holes to the inside with a drill or dremel.

[@M.TTT.]

Hmm, I have some 1102 motors I think, maybe future ideas.

[@parker1ray]

I have a dozen 5" and almost that many 2" 3" and 4" long range and 6 camera drones and they are all fun!

[@Clif_Brown]

FPVcycle carries the good rubberbands for battery mount. GNB also make 300mah 2S batts.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I did try the 300, but the weight difference of the 350 was minimal and the flight time on 350 stayed above 3mins. 300 didn't always stay above the 3min flight time.

[@Clif_Brown]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick. So those Turnigy Nano-Tech 300mAh are something special.

[@fairlyfunctional2236]

hi Nick, i have an almost identical build on an 80mm 2" frame i found on amazon. it has the 10,000kv motors,but an all in one camera, being the only major difference. it's so much fun,the tks must be a blast. great video and awesome flying as always.

[@Barnz1980]

Busting out those freestyle moves man! Nice & smooth flying, you look like you do really enjoy this lil quad! I must fix my Custom Larva X build as i really enjoyed flying that lil quad

[@Barnz1980]

whoa! im like 20mins in & just realized this is a 41min long vid!!! you do really love it!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. I went far to overboard. Likely 10mins just on that nano tech battery. Very concerned current version aren't what they were 3 years ago. Did get confirmation they seemly are the same batteries via others uses.

[@Barnz1980]

@@NickBurnsFPV my mate just got some of those nanotech batteries for his 3" (850mah 4s) drone, he thinks they are as powerfull as the tattu batteries (also brand new). he also bought some Bonka batteries & says they arent as powerfull as the others. he just bought the drone & the different brand batteries 2 weeks ago so no idea on long term lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Barnz1980 nice initial findings. I have used bonka, but its been a few years, I wasn't impressed with them back then and haven't tried since.

[@Aar0n2009]

I run the 75mm version with mobula 6 guts and the thing is fun!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes it is, 2s is FUNNER!!!! :)

[@Jwillie]

Ooo this looks cool! I might get one with my next paycheck...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would agree, but you likely know how I feel at this point. :)

[@scottTNT]

I've never built a quad from scratch before, but I just might try and build one of these!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its a lot like legos, it all comes together without soldering.

[@scottTNT]

@@NickBurnsFPV Do you have a link for those cool black rubber bands that you found?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@scottTNT I got them from ali express bit.ly/35mpUpZ

[@jakestyles002]

My Impression: Wow... that little bird really rips, it also seems to really "stick" in the turns. Good advice to buy a BnF Uz to use the parts for the build. I have noticed that many quads are less expensive than the sum of it's parts.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, the assemblers, buy in build making the costs less. We can take advantage as well.

[@Lucas_Shaolin]

Just bought a uz85 on your affiliate link on banggood Nick as a way to support your channel. Also a rocket race frame too. I love the mob6hd and I think this will be more fun. Cheers lad for putting in work for this hobby.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Nice. I hope you have as much fun as I have been having. :)

[@watchinwaitin]

Just noting for posterity that I built one of these with the Crazybee X board and HappyModel 1102 13500kv motors. It was good fun for about six flights, but on the seventh it did a death spiral and came up with a dead ESC. It seems I was asking too much of the board. I'm going to upgrade to the Crazybee F4 Pro V3 and add a VTX so I can still get some use from these motors.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have read this sort of experience a few times. Its unfortunate that it seems the AIO boards we have are either bullet proof or short lived. It stinks, I wish at some point this issue would be resolved. Pretty much all brands have this sort of experience.

[@watchinwaitin]

@@NickBurnsFPV You seem to be saying that it maybe was just a bad board, and not a mismatch between the 13500kv motors / 2-inch props and the 5-amp ESCs on the board? I'd go Crazybee X again if I thought it had a chance of surviving, otherwise the F4 Pro V3 seems a safer bet with its 10-amp ESCs.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@watchinwaitin I did miss the kv on the motor, yea that is high on 2s. I wouldn't go above 10000kv on 2inch props for those 5amp escs. I hope we stop seeing 5amp boards, there is so little overhead with them and the reliability of those particular esc seem to me to be suspect.

[@chrisbee5481]

@@watchinwaitin i killed a 5A FC AIO as well with the 13500kv 1102 motors on 2S and 2 inch props.

[@technoxtreme178]

FYI, my Banggood order for the frame is shown "expected to ship", May 29 so not too long now. Banggood's tracking and shipping has been reasonably good on my last few orders (delivered to Canada).

[@chrisbee5481]

Hey, do you have a link for the frame? Looking for it

[@MrLaserpowered]

Ordered the UZ85 kit and carbon frame. Look forward to flying NB's favorite outdoor quad. Also, just received expresslrs kit in the mail today. This will be a fun learning curve adventure.😉

[@yumahase]

After watching this video, I have ordered TKS frames right away :)

[@Takeover738]

That thing looks fun.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It is good fun.

[@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO]

Now I need one

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. I sure hope your able to gather the parts. Please let me know if you do and what you think of this little quad.

[@bushcrafter6416]

Must be nice having cool neighbors, One of mine called cops first time I flew couple years ago.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

sheesh, that is a bit of an over reaction.

[@karlharriman6936]

Great video. Nick - you mentioned you did some stuff to improve the insta 360 go 2 performance? Interested to hear what you did if poss, maybe in a future vid? I know a lot, including me ,have struggled to get the best out of this camera.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't think what I am currently getting isn't great yet. My original go has much better stabilization.

[@lmichaelross]

I know it’s been a while since you posted this. I finally copied you here lol. I did put crossfire on it, otherwise it’s the uz85 and the Tks frame. The camera is pretty bright! I flew at night when it was getting pretty dark, but I saw everything really well.

[@bjimx]

I've watched your video several times and it looks like fun, they're small so you don't need a large open space to fly them the performance is good and the batteries are cheap enough to buy a lot of them for more flying. They're perfect. You convinced me to buy enough parts to build two of them in case I break one, which is a possibility because I've never flown a drone before, but I've watched a lot of your videos so I should be okay, right? Lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Having two is a very good idea. If you can try to use a computer simulator to get some basic flying skills. Tinywhoopgo is free. This helps us get some basic flying awareness and doesn’t cost us in crashes 😁

[@bjimx]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks, that was my plan I just ordered a transmitter and I planned on using it to practice on a simulator until all the parts come from China. I've been thinking about it for a while and you gave me the push to try it.

[@pksteffen]

I may have some of those HobbyKing batteries stashed in a battery safe somewhere. Time to hunt. You got me. Gotta try it now. 1s Babytooth is my jam but heck this looks fun too! Great stuff Nick. Cheers!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The babytooth is good. For me the smaller package is even more fun. :)

[@pksteffen]

@@NickBurnsFPV Gonna try your emu dump for fun now. It is super fun with a tweaked UZ85 tune, but want to try the NB approach for a change.

[@tabayashimedia3501]

Just ordered the Rocket race. Thanks!

[@jeanfrancoisvandiest9729]

Excellent my friend, very nice video👌 good weekend and good flight😀🖐

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Have a good weekend.

[@chrisbee5481]

I built just like this video from Nick with the twiglet mini frame. For some reason my vtx and rx signal cuts out after about 25m. My crux3 has 200m good signal. Same CrazybeeX FC. What i did as a as my current project is take the moblite7 components and put it on the 2 inch twiglet mini frame and use 2 inch bi blade props. Had to cut the 65mm down. But it is awsome. 23g dry weight. Waiting for my GNB27 plugs to arrive. Should provide even more punch. Just going up from 1.6 to 2 inch was way more Power. Feels just like this tks rocket build. Im Sure you could get this to a 30g auw 2 inch ripper.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have heard some boards have poorly performing vtx and/or vtx antenna at the wrong length.

[@technoxtreme178]

One question that's always been on my mind...how large is your backyard (I'm guessing somewhere around 100 ft width or more?)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The fence line in the back is 251ft. and it narrows down to the house to about 200ft.

[@danieldavelaar]

Hobbyking actually also has the 300mah 2s in so-called, nano tech plus. They hold their voltage a bit better is my experience. Just a tip 😊

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah, I haven't seen those. I will take a look

[@danieldavelaar]

@@NickBurnsFPV hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-nano-tech-300mah-2s-70c-hr-technology.html?wrh_pdp=1 Only in stock in the UK right now unfortunately

[@xfOL.]

heh I'm planning to build exactly the same formula (1102 10k + 2 inch prop) but with more traditional "X" toothpick style frame 🙃

[@trajanfpv]

Looks really good. I could build it with spare parts right now, convert my US65 pro TBS guts. My only issue is that I would like the option to run 4 screw motors as well, the Beta FPV 1103 11000 motors from the BetaFPV 85Pro come to mind and are new in my drawer.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

We can use those 1103, but the magic for me is in 1102 and the reduced weight.

[@trajanfpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV The 1103 has 4 screw holes, looks like the frame will not accommodate them. Also the emax 1103 7000 KV would be supper light as well, but they have that odd motor pattern.

[@trajanfpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV The URUAV 85 is on Bangood for $89 right now in stock.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@trajanfpv Oh I thought I looked at those motors, must have been a different motor. I used 1103 HM motors during testing.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@trajanfpv It would be nice if we could rely on that "in stock". The agent from Banggood said they will have "more" the end of the month. Maybe they didn't mean they are out of stock.

[@jermadjesty]

I found that CycloneFPV has 1102 happymodel motors in stock

[@cheshirerc]

Looking good Nick. Nice quad.

[@scottburns5049]

If you go from 4 min to 5 min flight time thats a 25% increase. I would call that pretty significant.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It is, I found with the additional weight I did have the feeling of freedom.

[@bojanplesa1221]

This fly like crazy...Would be nice to have one of that and trie to do freestyle with it

[@betitaelfica2]

oohhh one thing! Crux3 canopy is not compatible with caddx ant lite (your build 1 list). I have uz85 and crux3 and they don't fit to each other, canopies seems similar but are not the same. I get the same suprise the day that I try to do the same, the only solution was to print a ring suppor for the Caddx ant lite to fit the crux3 canopy but I dont recommend it.. it breaks easly with PLA.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is true I need to correct that. Any lite needs a canopy like the beebrain

[@slowvoltage]

aaaannnnnnd... 3.50 volts! excellent review of both setups.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you.

[@CXBFPV]

Looks like the DIY UZ85 comes with the CrazybeeX V2.2 with 200mw VTX...???

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't think so, unless they changed the board since I got mine. Which is possible. I see one listing showing 25mw still

[@CXBFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV I got that information from the questions on BG for the DIY UZ85 and people were confirming that it ships with the CrazybeeX V2.2 board and there are even pictures uploaded confirming that on BG and AliExpress for the DIY UZ85. I just may put the trigger on this..

[@CXBFPV]

Just got confirmation from BG via email. The UR85 is not shipped with the CrazybeeX V2.2 board that has 200mw VTX. They have changed their product description to reflect the new board.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@CXBFPV Good to know. Thank you

[@Switch180fpv]

Awesome I really like the excitement after all those years flying 😀 any who I just got the motors and props from cyclonfpv they are still in stock as far as I could tell...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

What!!!! I just checked cyclone on Wednesday. I will check again. Thank you for letting me know.

[@FlyingBuzzard]

This is what i was speaking of on another one of your vids, I see no Build vids and I would think a build vid and kits a Nick Burns addition 2S and 1S quad builds, DIY kits whichever, would be a great endeavor . I am sure ( as with this quad) parts are hard to come by to get just that perfect build, BUT working with the many manufacturers that you review their products etc I am sure many suppliers, manufacturers, hobby shops would step up and help make that happen We saw the JB Freestyle quad kit/build with a large 5" inch i think it was and he has some branded parts, I would assume with your knowledge and wisdom and help within the Community it would be a great seller and a help for many who are new to the hobby and wish to build/learn/fly these micro's ( as we see the regulation of larger aircraft is making them harder to enjoy ) Micros anything sub 250 is the way to go now days . And So many want the ability to have the parts rather than have to sort through so many to get that perfect Fit .As it Appears you have done that with the TKS, would nice to see a mass produced product and a Nick Burns branded one Hope that may ne a possibility in the near future Thanks again Nick for all you do in this Hobby community .

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am adverse to being personally tied to products where I could held responsible for another parties failures. Despite best intentions, manufacturers have failures from time to time, some more than others. This is my hobby, I don't worry about money or what products are selling or not. I have a day job that pays our bills along with my wife's income. We are doing fine. My goal is to continue to explore the fpv hobby, try new products and make videos on them.

[@FlyingBuzzard]

@@NickBurnsFPV Fair enough, it was a thought and being curious . I know you give a lot of info and time in the hobby, just wondered if any thought for your own brand / Builds etc was ever considered Thanks Nick

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@FlyingBuzzard Its not that I haven't given it any thought, but the thoughts have so many risks associated with it I have taken the route to try to get manufacturers build quads I think are fun...in the micro arena of course.

[@FlyingBuzzard]

@@NickBurnsFPV I still would love to see a build video of your little part creations and how it is set up to the flight itself we see so often. would be a great tutorial for many in the hobby including me even at my age...LOL

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Unicorns rock! Great video. I suppose the issue here in the UK is getting a frame. The parts less so. Great video

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, international shipping is often expensive. But I have read of some from the UK getting a frame from Jacks3dprinting.com

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah just had a look price doubles with shipping

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@gmivisualsjason3729 That is hard to swallow. Maybe there are others in your local club that might be interested in a group buy or something?