Ideal Drone Weight // TKS Rocket Race // Viewer Request

[@its_generik]

I've watched your Rocket Race videos a number of times, and finally built one that came in at 40 grams flat. It flies stellar! Securing the battery has been my only struggle. Great quad!!!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, the battery holding is a challenge. I use the rubber bands I linked in the original video. Yea age and break, then I just replace them. I think there might be some 3d prints available that would work but nothing specific that I designed.

[@Nimbus2k23]

I finally built one of these and it’s just so much fun. It’s a definitely in the top 3 favorite for me

[@helixinwonderland8938]

Hello! just finished a build inspired on this one. 38g. Made a lot of mistakes and spent too much money on it. Started with a uruav 85 that I got at a very good price and a Mini twiglet frame. Couldn't use motor plugs as they don't fit with the frame. To difficult to solder motors to that board. When it was done I made the most stupid mistake, pluged the smoke stopper and then a small 4s battery that was beside the right one. Smoke came out. So, bought a new board that cost almost as much as the uruav 85 had cost me, a JHMCU GSF405A-BMI F4 that has a uart based elrs receiver and a OX300 VTX. First flight, first crash, a motor got loose and a wire came off the motor. Managed too solder it but I don't know how well it would work. While putting it all toghether again, two wires came off another motor and coudn't solder them back. So, new motors bought, some happymodel ex1102 that I think are the same as the uruav ones but cheaper. This started in November 2021 and I'm at this moment charging batteries (2s GNB 380mah) to go and maiden it, again. 60g total. It'll go well this time!!

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Way to go, Bro! Come back here and tell us how it flew and all of the components you used.

[@helixinwonderland8938]

@@KOrnhOliO1 It's flying pretty good! Quite fast. Camera ain't very good and get's jello if props aren't pristine. Betafpv Mini Twiglet frame, JHMCU GSF405A-BMI F4 with elrs, OVX300 VTX, Caddx Ant Lite camera, Happymodel ex1102 10000Kv motors with 1,5mm shaft, Gemfan Hurricane 2023 props, UZ85 cannopy, 4 m2 screws and 16 nylon nuts for spacing and holding FC and cannopy, 2 zipties to hold antennas up with some heatshrink, 1 ziptie to hold leads down to the frame and a rubber band (bycicle inner tube) holding a 380mah gnb 2s battery with xt30. Cannopy and camera came from the UZ85 I had started with. UZ85 and FC was from Banggood, the rest from Aliexpress. Hope it helps.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@helixinwonderland8938 Cool, thanks for the details. Yeah, I agree with you! That Caddx Ant lite is not good. Why so many like it is beyond me!!! Every time I see video from that camera I think it sucks, with all of it's distortion, flickering, lines, and fuzz. Why is it so popular...I don't get it???! lolol 🤷‍♂🙄

[@tuckerscolman9771]

Glad you're taking a break to enjoy yourself and not for any negative reason. Love the info, and hope to build one of these little guys sometime!

[@ccurrivan]

I was able to zip tie a Baby Ratel 2 into a beebrain canopy over an X12 and prop clearance is pretty good. Weight is 37.1g and it gives a huge boost in low light performance.

[@fabianlujan6092]

Are you able to use the elrs spi receiver on emu flight with the X12?

[@electroddxful]

Hey Nick, it was really useful. Thanks for sharing 🙏👍🙏👍

[@SeanChristianBellinger]

Bro...I really appreciate your videos. I'm very new to the FPV scene, and I love your chill attitude towards the hobby. I don't feel intimidated like I do when watching some other videos. I have experience with the Phantom 4 Pro and want to move on to freestyle, but I'm not interested in competition, just fun....and maybe sharing videos of my flights to my friends and family on FB. Your videos promote that fun I'm looking for and I learned more than I thought I would without feeling overwhelmed. Thanks for that. Peace. P.S. Your flights around your house are AMAZING! Sometimes I play them while I work (I work from home).

[@mcarignan]

Hey Nick ! Just a quick clarification, the Foxeer Toothless 2 Nano is the same weight (give or take 0.1g) as the Baby Ratel 2 ... I felt it was unclear in your video about whether it was "2g" heavier than the Ant Lite or BR2. I fly both on 3"/3.5" builds (they are heavy for these little guys!) and they're both great, can't go wrong either way. And I have come to agree with you on the image quality vs weight debate... I tend to put nicer/heavier cams now rather than light/trash (and I really hate Ant cams, don't know why people like them!!) Great video please do more of these "Deep Thoughts by Nick Burns" videos, it really doesn't always have to be about the newest+greatest stuff !!!

[@winder6]

Well said would love to see some great home builds

[@manuelsolano7525]

Welcome back Nick my favorite is the fractal 75 is good inside or outside.

[@jsnlmb42]

I built a TKS Starlord with 2.5” props (shaved down a tad so the props didn’t strike each other) and flew it on 2s. It is a complete BEAST!!

[@willfpv4475]

Gosh I miss flying!!! This video made that very apparent. All my stuff burned up in a fire at work so I guess it’s time to start saving!! Thanks Nick for the awesome video!!!

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Hope you filled an insurance claim so you got some cash to buy new gear. That's what insurance is for! If it's not your policy, still file a claim on the policy that covers the content of the building and recoup some dough to get started again. Be sure to use full boat trial prices and the new chip shortage prices, not the old. Go for it, and you'll be flying FPV again in no time! 😎🤘

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying, Nick! 😃 Thanks a bunch for all the tips!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@bjimx]

This quad is a lot of fun, I have built several and some didn't work as well and one caught on fire after a crash but when the X12 board came out I knew I had to build another. I cut my own frame so I could make it slightly bigger, closer to 82mm so there's more clearance for the props, I was a little worried about a prop taking off the ELRS antenna now they're clear of the FC board and I'm running the baby ratel 2. With the slightly larger frame and the baby ratel 2 it weighs just under 41 grams. I also use screws to hold the props, I broke 2 motor shafts in mild crashes before using screws and I haven't broke any with screws.

[@valden]

built one up with the runcam nano 3 since I am not too picky and the x12 board and comes in just a tad over 36 grams so I think I am pretty happy with the result! May make a "heavy" version of my own but with 1103 instead of 1102 but same kv

[@chrisbee5481]

Convert the betafpv meteor85 to a tks frame for 1103 build

[@wingsounds13]

Hi Nick. Thanks for the video, I've been missing your posts. I appreciate what you have to say here, even though there is not much 'new' information. Just seeing the comparison between the Ant Lite and the Baby Ratel was about worth the whole video. Please feel free to post these general updates whenever you feel like it - we don't always have to have New Product Reviews.

[@slackerinmotion]

Hi Nick. Enjoyed this "revisit" video. Sometimes new isn't necessarily better. My Starlord with RCInpower motors weighs in on the heavy side of a "heavy build". I guess my build has some "lightweight huckability"...An oxymoron term similar to "mini boombox"😃 Cheers.

[@nikotttin]

Is the AIO Elrs and vtx 1-2S crazybee working well in 2s? The betafpv one was not a good experience…

[@NickBurnsFPV]

for me it has been working well

[@SuperHalo222]

So I built this quad with the beta85 pro2 (10kv 1102) and it's actually 39g! It can get video to around a mile away and flight time is 3:00 with gnb 350mah

[@LowetheTechGuy]

Let's Gooo, im late af but I'm building one ASAP!

[@orechris21]

Do you think I can run 2.5" props on the bqe pickpocket 2" frame? Cause I have heaps of 2.5 inch props and accidentally ordered the 2" version of the frame. Thanks

[@Zackking21]

Nic check out the sky rider 90 mm frame by quad66 I think you would love his frames the warping frames are really solid too

[@1969jfp]

Fc for that drone is the same as the mobula 7 elrs, isn't it?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes

[@amin0_acid310]

Been looking at kitbashing a quad, there's a printable version of this frame online? With a number of whoops, 1-2s I've been wanting to dive deeper into tinkering after trashing a frame. 2-3/3.5 inch is where I'd like to stay. I do have a few big quads and live in Canada, so luckier there. I did start earlier this year and went analog and enjoy it. Waiting to see what early 2023 has for Digital, but that's more expensive gear to crash. I'm happy where I am. And after the T-Lite v2 review a little while back, I went sloppy sticks and it's greatly improved my flying. Nice to see what weight differences can do. I have both a mobila 6 and 6DH (1080p-drv). Took the HD's 19000kv motors and swapped with the non HD's 25000kv and noticed right away the weight isn't as bad with the 25000kv motors. Thanks for the ideas, once I've thrashed what I have, good for the indoors flying season and something to build for next year.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, search for tks on the print sites. He might be using printable.com more these days.

[@amin0_acid310]

Thank you so much. There's some Carbon Fiber infused PLA I got a while back I'm looking to test out and just needed a recommended frame. Printers need some TLC. Looks like I have some work ahead of me, Cheers!

[@stelic9515]

Thanks, I am really interest in this I try to build an 1s toothpick like crux 3 using darwinfpv baby ape internals with 1103 motors and 3 inch props. The problem is I can't make the quad less than 60 grams without some sacrifice that are important (smaller buzzer 1g + weacker build 1g and short power cable and switch from xt30 to bt 2.0 1g ) Even with this is impossible to be lighter than 57 grams So how it compare with a 46 gram quad on 1s. So weight+ battery is 77g and to crux3 is 63 g

[@carlosr.2027]

you mention the 1102 13500KV being a unicorn meaning better choice over 1102 10000kv I found both available and 1103 11000kv my tks rocket race build with baby ratel cam and Happymodel X12 AIO 5-in-1 with built in elrs 2.4 it’s says with onBoard 5.8ghz up to 400mw might be on the heavy side which motor would you recommend , also which emax tape 10mm,8mm,12mm?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

My preference is the 1102 10000kv. 13500kv gives more top end performance but at the cost of flight time.

[@carlosr.2027]

@@NickBurnsFPV just order 1102 10,000kv can’t wait to start my rocket race build I appreciate , thnx

[@stelic9515]

Thank you alot for the topic, I can say from the testings I made, the lighter a quad is the less demage will have in a crush. However this is until one point, after that you sacrifice and the quad become weacker. One example in my case is props bolts, to save 1.5 grams I run the quad without bolts and I bent a motor shaft, after that I mount bolts back, So I prefer a bit more heawy but much stronger. My favorite quads classes are whoops and 1s toothpicks. I started with big and after get smaller and smaller. Small is better and cheaper.

[@robzFPV000]

I have the Rocket Race as well. It is my favorite quad. Want to put hdzero cam into it. You by chance changing your cam out for hdzero? If so would love to see a video on the install?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The rocket race really isn't compatible with a two board stack. The props overlap the boards and in the case of the second layer the props strike. Even if we make it work the clearance will be so little I would be worried about prop strikes.

[@robzFPV000]

@@NickBurnsFPV Come to think of it your right. Clearance is like 2 mil. Hope you do a hdzero install of some sort maybe. Thanks for getting back so soon...wow! Merry Christmas from Alberta Canada

[@Dmytro_99]

Hi Nick created similar to your build. Like your light but with baby ratel2. It came in 32.5 g. But pid tunes are off for those 1102 motors and GF 2023, wherever I put those motors, they give a LOT of flight time but the performance are not so great, prop wash and other stuff (when I fly GF 2in by blades quad flies better but feels underpowered). In some of your videos you say that you choose them because of easy pit tuning, maybe you could show your pid tunes?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

We have seen many betaflight version changes since 2022. I don't think my 2 year old tunes are relevant.

[@xyic0re714]

Hi Nick, not sure whether you still see these comments but I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between HDzero and Walksnail for this particular build (I have my own heavy - which is 41g). Finally if you could throw in your opinion regarding trade-off with regards to analog, from the 'winner' of the Walksnail/HDzero pair. I'm interested in this particular environment - tight space backyard. Maybe going around the front of your house for added input. Thank you sir.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

due to the proximity of the props adding a second layer for the vtx isn't really possible. We can use taller motors or what I did was to use a different but close frame. I used the TKS starlord here www.jacks3dprinting.com/collections/frames/products/tks-starlord-90mm-2-5mm-carbon

[@Sfpv1994]

Will you be reviewing the New flywoo HD nano baby? Potentially with hd0 or wallsnail New 1s vtx?

[@colddash5598]

Are we taking bets how long before a quad takes a dive in the pool?😉

[@chemicalwaffle9220]

I know you mentioned that you were going to get back into tuning with Bf 4.3 in a previous video. I’d love to see a tuning video from you for Micros whenever you feel confident enough with it.

[@broken4999]

Hi nick could you tell me the name of the black tape you wrap the arms with on your drones, thanks alot.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I call it emax tape as they were first to my knowledge to use it. Others call it acetate tape. Its also linked in the video description of every video :)

[@broken4999]

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks very much 🙏

[@kieren7763]

Dropped 4 grams off my little toothpick the other day I notice the cornering was way faster but top speed was a little slower though I think it just didn't push through the air as good with a little less weight

[@derrpantograf670]

I have similar 2 inch 2S micro drones. Similar to your Gemfan 2023 propellers, 1102 10000kV motors, one on AIO Crazybee V2.2 with Nano 2 camera and weighs 35.5g, the other on AIO Crazybee V3.0 and Vtx 200mW ,with Nano 4 camera and weighs 41.7g. Both drones they fly great, but with slightly different speed, agility and inertia. My observations are similar to yours.

[@PropsOff]

HEY!! Well, I hit the like button and it didn't hurt at all...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

[@gilebike]

By looking at the footage i can say that the lighter quad is faster,but the weight difference would be more noticable in the hard acro manuvers like power loops or juicy flick...it all comes to the point of flight style and the question would you sacriface fliying abbilities to gain video perception ,and off course,smaller the props are the weight is more noticable.

[@chopwhoopz]

i am building one from the original Mobula 7 HD 1s, i put the 1002 22000 and it flies much better with biblades but dont last much, i tried triblades and it was very nice but it was flying for 40sec to 1min so i went back to biblades, but i was thinking to add the 14000kv rcinpower motors and make it 2s. Would you share your pid tunning? on the heavy one? mine has a similar weight 36.7g but i had to disable AirMode and fly only acro cuz it flies weird when i enable it.

[@andreastornesel8404]

I was flying 10 packs today and were thinking, "I'm improving in fligtskill, 3 months of flying and it feels good" and then I watch your videos....I stink😳😉 But thankyou for all your work and videos👍👍👍👍👍

[@stevejobs5]

Anyone have a good pid tune for mobula 7 1s with 1002 motors?

[@Daddyfly_FPV]

I know you’ve been asked this a million times but do you have a link to rates that you like? I switched to IllusionFPV rates and it helped the agility of the Mob7 a ton but I’d still like some faster roll. Rates I’m using right now are 1000 roll, 950 pitch, 700 yaw. Feels okay but was curious what you’re running.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I use 960 pitch and roll and 1200 on yaw. The raw rate numbers aren't the full picture. I use betaflight rates or 1.2, 1.2 and 1.3 (pitch, roll & yaw) I use super rates of .75 and .80. The super rate is at the very end of the stick resolution. I use more yaw as I have found my "nose" tracking is better with more yaw....which makes sense as yaw is a passive axis....at least it was for years, I can't say it still is with betaflight 4.3

[@Daddyfly_FPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick. Always appreciate you taking time out of your day to answer questions. Love your channel. I have a 2 year old so I fly whoops and micros a lot more than I get out to fly my 5”. Your channel is my favorite. Keep making content.

[@medrone7097]

This is Nick’s favorite quad, now which one is his favorite build? I’d bet the light build. It seems to be quite a bit zippier.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yup, I like the agility of less weight. There is a limit which I don’t enjoy. If they get so light they feel floaty, I don’t care for that 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

[@sullytrny]

I think you and JB and Botgrinder and people like that we need to do more with analog and cheap Box goggles to get new people into the hobby too many have gone on this digital kick to the detriment of the whole hobby this is just my opinion

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Well, that's certainly one way of looking at it. I'll flip the coin and take the other side! 😁✅ I feel the exact opposite is appropriate. My feelings are, why put effort into making videos about a dying format? Analog is dying. It will die completely and be buried and dead. Tech moves on, and analog FPV will too. Don't believe me? Watch. Manufacturers will eventually see such poor sales of analog gear that they will discontinue making it. When that happens with all of the manufacturers, analog will be dead. It's happened with all old tech when new tech advances. Course, you could still be calling people on your analog cell phone, and watching movies on your VHS, and listening to music with cassette tapes, maybe even 8-tracks, who knows, but most of us feel in the present tech, not the past. 🤷👍 So, I'd rather see videos about the advancing tech we now have. Builds of quads with digital FPV involved. I actually think a lot of new people in the hobby are completely skipping analog, and are smart to skip a dying format. It's also much easier to build with the new digital components and at least for DJI digital, it's incredibly more reliable. 4 wires hooks up a Vista... A ground, a voltage, and a Uart... And RX & TX. No VTX tables to confuse you in Betaflight, no camera video in and video out, no VTX unlocking with flashing LEDs to figure out manual power settings, and no smart audio. Way easier, and way, Way better! Plus, with the V2 goggles coming down in price it's cheaper than analog and the Goggles most but for it. Lightweight builds with digital, whether it be DJI, HDZero, or WalkShart, are all great to see! I want to dwell in the future, and not the past. 2022+ tech, not 2011. I've built a similar DJI digital quad to your TKS light and heavy with a naked Caddx Vista with the great Nebula Pro Nano camera. It weighs much less than your heavy build, but slightly more than your light one. Around 38g, but lighter is certainly possible as I only had a 20amp AIO FC/ESC board available, so I used it. I've done the math, added every little screw, the XT30, wires, canopy, etc... And I feel it's possible to turn the corner on 30 grams and get into the high 20's. With the right components and carefully doing weight saving! Let's do some builds with digital and live in the future of FPV, and say goodbye to a dying format. I told myself about a year and a half ago, that I was never going to buy any more analog only gear ever again. It's a waste of money! 🤔😎🤘

[@lemonsquareFPV]

@@KOrnhOliO1 Most people would 100% want to follow your thinking, it is VERY valid, I would love to be able to have 100% digital… money is the hindrance for most, and pretty hard to beat a less than 5 gram 5in1 board for micros. For 3.5”+ I LOVE digital! As I am intertwined in the manufacturing in China I can tell you that new analog gear is still developed and made currently, and that the demand is very high, it will fortunately/unfortunately stick around for the next 10 years at least. Gotta realize that more than 50% in this hobby are poor or not willing to pay more than $100 for goggles/radio. I (irresponsibility) spent $15k on FPV the past 12 months, most cannot even if they wanted to. I am just grateful that this hobby is relatively accessible, if analog didn’t exist many would not be able to participate/experience it.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@lemonsquareFPV If you think analog will stay around for ten years when we have multiple digital options, you're in for a rude awakening! The poorer people in this hobby won't be able to buy enough analog gear to keep it going... Remember, they're the ones with little to no money. It's all about sales and it still being profitable. You'll be lucky if it's still around in 2-3 years. Just look at all those examples of old tech leaving us! You can't even go to a store and buy something as recent as a DVD or even a Blu-ray! Analog won't live long! 🙄🤷

[@lemonsquareFPV]

@@KOrnhOliO1 no rude awakening, it doesn’t influence me at all honestly (my light weight builds will gain 5 grams on average) and in the future that may not even be the case. I like the light weight but won’t cry about it, and video will be better… would be a shame for a lot of the people though. Your technology analogies are flawed though (even though I would of loved if you were right)… this is a very different situation, mainstream digital became cheaper than analog, that’s why it prevailed (price is ALWAYS why). I’m honestly just looking at sales numbers, analog cameras/VTXs still outsell all digital options at 5:1 - 10:1 depending on the wholesaler. Sales have actually increased over the last 5 years, but I think that’s because FPV is more accessible now, and nothing more. Ask Caddx (analog:digital cameras), or any of the FPV wholesalers in China. Trust me, no one wants to keep making analog stuff, they just do it because of the demand. If digital FPV can become cheaper than analog, then analog will die (immediately), and that honestly would be cool! I actually think that with more digital competition the price of digital has the potential of being cheaper than analog… with time. Then and only then will there be no reason to continue with analog. Price is always the market driver.

[@lemonsquareFPV]

@@KOrnhOliO1 to;dr I agree with you, just not with the part that amid a multi year chip shortage that digital will become cheaper than analog in 2-3 years.

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick YEP me again! I have to confess that I broke my 3 micros and now I have to start building some more. I just purchased a Happymodel X12 F.C and a Caddx Ratel starlight baby, Caddx Ratel definitely are my favorite Cameras right now. I think I only have two that are not Caddx, I think I will be ordering some 1102 10,000kv and a new frame and I will have a blast flying it in the park next to my house. Thanks again for the video and information on your micros.

[@sapolab_diy]

These new micro rippers seem great but are a bit too expensive for me atm, at least compared to the old brushed micros. I still have few spare parts so i still fly some brused drones sometimes, and with carbon fiber sticks arms and 3d printed minimal frame, aio 50/100mw, whooplite board flashed with notfastenuff, high kv betafpv 60-70/20 motors and 250mah lihv it feel like a brushless, blazing fast(for me) Btw i also have a mobula6hd and diatone r349 wich are ok for their job. I miss the cheap tinywhoop era 😅 Btw if you want to try a 3dprintable printinplace frame for old brushed parts ,check sapolab whoop or the tinyjetski on my cults3d 😉

[@HendrixFreakazoid]

The cheap tiny whoop era is still alive and well for those in the know pretty much all I rip are brushed 65 and 75mm tiny whoops the parts are a little scarce now but they are cheap and I got tons of different motors AIO's and parts to stay flying forever and I really prefer the linear feel of the throttle with the brushed motors and yes I think the NFE silverware board is just legendary I fly the Makerfire version on a bunch of different whoops and open propped micros and especially on a cockroach frame with NBD 25500KV unicorn motors and Gemfan tri blades or venom props with some Tiny whoop 205mah HV's the thing flat out rips you silly like nothing I ever flown it got teleportation light speed with whiplash agility that is off the charts my Mobulas and tinyhawks can't even compare

[@cinemoriahFPV]

Why not 1002 motors?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have one with 1002 motors. I believe I reference it late in the video. I like the feel of the tri bladed props, the 1002 motors don't power the tri blades as well as 1102

[@apachesmokemachining6487]

Great flying, like the way how the TKS heavy flies. Love your videos

[@porshacarroll9600]

Hey Nick Teddy here... You should have left the swing set for future grandkids

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol. Only the swing portion was safe. The rest was pretty rotten. But when that day comes we certainly have room for a play set.

[@tonymorgan328]

Thanks for the flight vids Nick. The UZ85 is still available at one dealer but priced a little high for most people's taste. I bought one anyway so I could do the Rocket Race build 😁

[@NickBurnsFPV]

oh man, I haven't seen an instock listing for awhile. your google fu must be strong

[@engizmo]

The 250g rule has forced me to be a weight snob. And now there is no dji hd fpv quad that's under 250g that can fly for 20min+ for some fun long range cruising. 😥 Seems like the rules and me wanting dji hd fpv has left me with no option.

[@Mupshot]

Quite interesting how much more flight time you got on the lighter build. My builds tend to get chunky. My first sub250 2s, was 280g with batteries, so I gave up on even trying, and made it a 4s that wound up being 350g and it grew to 390 eventually when I put new motors and a better VTX on it.

[@kurtzFPV]

I've had good luck with the crux3 canopies too, even on the one covering my lightest 3" naked vista build, which is still heavy compared to the crux3.

[@scottmilano2940]

An HDZero version is interesting. I’ve been flying the babytooth frame with the Happymodel X12 and 1202.5 motors on HDzero, and wonder if my video is that much better than your analog heavy. Maybe I need a better lens on the HDZero whoop lite kit.

[@timon72489]

I saw a video that rcinpower is also working on 1003 motors. Those would be ideal for 2inch 3 blade!

[@shakeymikesadventures6793]

I like Them a bit heavier like whoops(76mm and up) avg 10gms heavier to fling it farther as long as recovery doesn't suffer much in freestyle. Just remember the acrobrat days those were the best in 3inch, armatan jalapaturas,and those kingkong et100 -150. I still have them because of durability. My 5inch setups are collecting dust because of the indoors flying i've been doing at the G.H. with the kids. My latest contraption is a ebike 26inch with dual 1500w motors and building a 48v 60ah battery. Now a days it's all about that 247gm mark in 3 inch all in weights. Us old guys don't have the reflex like we used to. Let me know if you want to send you some $ to do that again.

[@flinchfpv8858]

My favourite type of video. I would love a walk along build video through the HDZero build you are planning. I would like to know the costs and pros and cons I loved seeing the swing set again 😋 love the improvements and I enjoy seeing it continue to develop Thanks for making my favourite videos. You always provide me with new ideas and keep making my FPV experience all the richer (Just my bank accounts poorer) I think I have all the parts with a savage bee frame and I want a better camera so your opinion and the opinion of the replies in chat are invaluable and greatly appreciated 😃🛸👌 thanks for sharing

[@tieswollerich6410]

First !!!! Love the vids