TKS StarLord 2s // Requested // 90mm Micro

[@paulmillard1130]

Oh wow I just fell in love. I have built lots of large quads and was dead against these tiny Magots. But I got smitten with these little beauties. A lot of that is your doing. I'm 61 and fly like 15. Marvelous channel.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, sorry not sorry I guess :)

[@jakestyles002]

I would like to see "The Burns Yard" in one of the Quad Flight Sims. It would be great for Whoop Training.

[@nzmfpv]

Agree

[@davidanderson6222]

And in house. Lol

[@BMFPV]

Maybe in the upcoming Liftoff micro drones sim....

[@anthonycadejr3995]

I agree also would be excellent 👌

[@Soulsurferfpv]

Totally agree with that 👍👍

[@carbonEYE007]

Always a great micro time

[@MysteryD]

There's nothing more impressive to me than TINY quads that fly and feel like 5" quads.

[@luvmyhondasi]

Great little backyard ripper

[@Soulsurferfpv]

Thanks for posting the video Nick. Its great to see the build options on these tks frames 👍

[@matred3538]

Love these 2" micros. I have a few different set ups of these. Thanks Nick for all your help in this field of flying. ☺️

[@magicsmokemitlothar7377]

Nice little quad

[@MCsCreations]

Beautiful little build, Nick! 😃 Fantastic flying!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Adam_Carbone]

This is an awesome little quad! The frame looks cool and it is very locked in, awesome flying!

[@Nspecthergadget2010]

S2 yes! Thanks. Punch out over the house tree diver was awesome, had to backup for a second looks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol turn a miss into something interesting 😀. Better than crashing 😂

[@8BiT_fpv]

Nice build there Nick!

[@MrLaserpowered]

Nice to see the adjustable canopy vs newbeedrone canopy. The build just looks cleaner IMO.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes and somewhat less profile height

[@BallPingFpv]

What a beautiful day there as it is here thanks for the content take care.

[@johnlheneghan1630]

Nothing but wind, rain and 90 degrees heat here in NH. Cant fly.

[@dronereviewman9580]

such a cool little quad!!! great review and great flying!!!

[@NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan]

Great review as allways nick .hope you are well

[@johnlheneghan1630]

Looks like fun to fly

[@ApacheFPV]

Reminds me of my Diatone GTB, great style of micro, near invincible! The only maintenance that ever needs done on it after a wreck is wiping the camera off and unbending a prop, then rip on!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes sir!

[@luvmyhondasi]

I love mine.great vid

[@neres818]

Great lil drone!!

[@beeyoufpv5802]

Love your flying skills, I dig the new lines, and your rolls are tight. I’m wondering when you gonna dive that chimney 😎

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Chimney dive is kinda just so so, nothing really to tie into it or out of it. I will keep it in mind and see what I might be able to come up with

[@JAYFPV24]

Looks like a fun lil ripper !!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It’s is even with a touch more weight than my light build

[@KernsJW]

The nano hawk is on clearance right now on RDQ. I am going to see if I can fit it on a JST frame. If not, i will print something

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I presume TKS frame?

[@KernsJW]

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah! It was $44

[@KernsJW]

Also, the beta 95x v2 is only 78

[@KernsJW]

Correction, i got v3, for 78 bucks thats not bad IMO. Also got the nanohawk. Need to build some stuff this weekend!

[@fpvclub7256]

Wow - Another rocket..

[@curlymaplebandit3107]

Nanohawk is 48 bucks on sale @ RDQ… wowzers!

[@dronereviewman9580]

why can't I find it??

[@curlymaplebandit3107]

@@dronereviewman9580 when I looked yesterday, there was 3 pages of 60% off stuff, now there’s 2. Betting they sold off what they had real fast at those prices…

[@dronereviewman9580]

@@curlymaplebandit3107 thanks man . ..wish I dident miss that one!!!!

[@damedcamera]

Always entertaining 😊

[@arunratanakprak2161]

Nice vid!

[@ShinyVideoStuff]

On 2S I just don't find 5A enough. Prefer to have the top-end power to pop out of dives and I'm seeing max current at 20A quite regularly. Would like a 2S board that still saves weight Vs 4S 20A boards but could manage a 10A per ESC. We seem to have gone from the old crazybee boards up to 20A or 35A AIOs and left behind the middle ground which are all 2+ year old designs. Lots of new 5A boards but nothing in the middle.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Betafpv has a new 10amp board, but no rx or vtx on it. I can't speak to why the market for true AIO haven't moved up to 10amp or more. I suspect its largely component fit. We save nearly 3+ grams with a true AIO over adding an Rx and vTx.

[@quadswithmods]

Thanks nick 👍

[@xwingsxm]

Just build a similar quad, fun little thing. Can you share your pid tune?

[@JoeMommaFPV]

Hey Nick, where did you get the canopy and the hardware for the frame? I'm thinking about building one up from parts from the HM Mobula7. But I don't have the hardware or pod for this build.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its the crux3 canopy. I have seen them at amazon, RDQ, pyrodrone etc.

[@gabrielfan592]

Another great build & review! Will there be a version for the 4 holes motor mounting pattern? Maybe I'll try a 2.5 inch build with 1103 motors, which usually have 4 9x9mm mounting holes

[@NickBurnsFPV]

A 4 hole pattern frame is being cut, I am not certain if I will be doing a build on it though

[@rbFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV Great to know! I doubt there is much difference to worth a new build or video for it. Thanks!

[@yohfpv]

I think that this exact build using the same 1102's with slightly bigger frame and T65 props would fly great.

[@yohfpv]

Nice flying. Like the speed. I'm curious whether you've tried larger 2s lipos to get more power out of this one.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

bigger batteries don't equal more power. The power is supplied via the voltage of the battery. 2s 300mah battery has the same voltage as a 2s 3000mah battery. A 3s battery would have more voltage and thus power but the components used in the quad aren't rated for 3s usage.

[@nothanks611]

Now i'm really curious about the press on props after asking and you answering my last q. Saving 2gs of weight and half the weight per prop spinning on this setup? Food for thought i feel like its a game changer but i need better weather to rly test.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Depending on the all up weight 2 grams can be a difference we feel in flight. The lower the AUW the more we will feel that 2 gram decrease. These props can be pretty challenging to get off once they are on, and on happymodel motors we have to be careful not to loosen the shaft from the bell. Its a careful and tedious process.

[@waspfpv9074]

can't found a main board in express LRS ....

[@NickBurnsFPV]

currently betafpv has the only 2s aio with elrs on boad.

[@Kingbob556]

sheesh

[@trajanfpv]

Looks interesting. Have you received the BetaFPV HX115 SE yet?

[@jeffro1005]

Hey I know this is an older video but could I use the emax 12025 11000kv on this 2s build ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That motor is a bit bigger and heavier than I would use, the weight can be an issue as weight goes up the durability of the frame can do down.

[@timpanse8971]

Nice frame. I'm considering building some smaller quads. Just wondering what kind of screws do you need for the motors and the canopy? Thanks for the links to the rubber bands by the way.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The screws for these 3 holed motors are m1.4 and I use 4mm length. I also suggest getting some m2 12mm screws for the canopy.

[@timpanse8971]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks mate. Just ordered 3 frames, but couldn't find the other parts at reasonable prices. Going for the uz85 seams to be the way to go, at least in Europe. Keep up the great work you are doing. I for one enjoy your content.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@timpanse8971 Thank you. I also bought two more uz85 from ali express as parts are scarce.

[@preclubek8251]

what are pids on this 2s?

[@CXBFPV]

I wonder if the 1102 8700kv motors that came with the RedDevil be close for this build.?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

1102 is small to spin a 3inch prop. We would be very performance limited.

[@Pozzix65]

Very cool...what r the measure for the motors screw for 2mm of carbon frame?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I suggest 4-5mm. With carbon being 2mm or 2.5mm we need the next 2mm to thread in.

[@Pozzix65]

@@NickBurnsFPV tks...for the motors what type of screw is it? M1.2, 1.4?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Pozzix65 motor mounting screws are m1.4

[@SlipperyBannana]

1 more question lol. I have HM1102 1350kv and betafpv 1103 1100kv motors. Which motors will draw more amps if everything else is consistent? I have a 5 amp & 12 amp board. 5 amp build will be 3-5 g lighter too.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

the 1102 13500kv on gemfan 2023 prop will pull 20+amps. I can't be as specific about the betafpv motors. Looks like betafpv is recommending a 12amp esc for those motors.

[@SlipperyBannana]

@@NickBurnsFPV you mean 20 amp across the whole board right? I saw you said that in the video. but it’s just confusing because they sell a betafpv bnf with a 5amp board & those 1103 motors too.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@SlipperyBannana The amp draw will depend on the prop sized used. The larger/heavier the prop the more amps drawn. So it might be able to run on a 5amp esc AIO with a 4mm prop, but not if we have a 2inch or larger prop. Often when we referr to AIO boards the amp "sizing" is a single esc, as its a 4in1 esc.

[@SlipperyBannana]

@@NickBurnsFPV I’m talking about the Beta85 pro2 which uses 2”Avan 4 blade props, 5 amp esc and the 1103 1100kv motors. I’ll let you know what happens cause I already set it up hahaha

[@chrisbee5481]

Hey Nick, I often purchase turnigy batteries. HK has a warehouse in Europe. I'm just wondering if your recommended 300mAh 45C turnigy are just as good as similar HV batteries? Dont HV's perform better or have advantages?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't charge any multi cell battery to high volt. Only my 1s batteries are charged to HV. I find in these tks frame on the 1102 10000kv motors the 300mah 2s nanotechs perform very well, better than other 2s 300mah or even 350mah.

[@CyprusPropertyDebt]

Is it better than the tinyhawk 2?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, when we remove the prop guards the flight capabilities are much wider and performance is greater.

[@zack204]

is the baby ratel2 better than the antlite ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Image quality yes, weight no. Also the ant lite field of view is wider so it feels faster in the googles. But the baby ratel 2 is much better at night as well

[@miguelt.7997]

I literally just built a 75 mm 5 amp AIO FC with 1103, 13000kv. soooo much fun, felt like 3S almost, but kept dropping in mid air... Now I know why. Would you upgrade the FC on your rocket race keep up with battery thristy, 1102 13000kv motors?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The don’t think I would as I would have to move up to a larger battery and I really prefer the super light and agile flight

[@huckaberryfpv4986]

You can try to lower motor scaling to get that kv down a bit,13000kv on 2s and 5amp esc is definitely pushing limits,1103 8000kv is still kinda on the fence for 2s 5amps esc but can be done just little headroom for voltage spikes,stay away from turtle mode on that esc🤟

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@huckaberryfpv4986 Yes, I would likely save those 13500kv motors for a 40mm prop build.

[@valden]

Hey there Nick. So I have a set of 1102 9000kv and also a set of the 10000kv. Would you say it would be a good idea to go with the 9000kv on the 78mm rocket frame due to it being lighter and put the 10000kv on the starlord for the bit extra thrust? Or is the difference not really that huge? Trying to resist the urge to pick up another set of the higher kv motors lol. Also what is your thoughts on running this 3s with a 12amp fc and those same 9000kv? Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, I would likely do the same 9000kv on rocket race and 10000kv on starlord. The flight difference between kv isn't huge but it is noticeable. I am not sure the 1102 motors can handle 3s. Often when we increase battery weight on these types of quads our flight time falls through the floor, we do get more aggressive flight characteristics.

[@valden]

​@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the insight Nick. I think if I want to shoot for 3s on 2 inch, I probably want to go with a different setup and maybe do something more like the Vanta 2 nano from avantquads with a lower kv 1103. Have a good one!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@valden Yes, lower kv is going to be safer.

[@D18racer51]

Do you think 2s 1102 10000 kv would be to much for the tks 78mm pctpe frame?i have one and was going to bulid a 1s quad but was wondering if 2s would be possible?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It will work but my concern is on hard fast maneuvers the frame will flex making extra prop wash or other flight issues.

[@D18racer51]

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah the flex would also be my biggest concern.. i might try it anyway just to see.. if i do i will post result.. but for now my race rocket it such a joy to fly.. all my other quads are getting jealous!! 😆

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@D18racer51 Yea, if we print ourselves, printing can be an interesting try.

[@yohfpv]

As a comparison, I've tried 1102 2s on a Calimero frame printed in ABS. Very stiff. It flew great but broke an arm every time I crashed into a hard surface. Needless to say I've switched to a carbon frame and haven't looked back.

[@Sandaco]

How much faster would you say the 2s is than the 1s build

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Compared to my starlord 1s, I would have to venture about 35% more aggressive.

[@vanlifefpv6340]

why is this so slow? usually you fly a lot faster

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Might be a touch less camera angle as well as somewhat smaller camera field of view. Fov can give us a greater sense of speed