Goodbye to my 2017 Porsche 911 C4S, what happened?

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Nick Murray

Nick Murray

Күн бұрын

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@AutoAmateur
@AutoAmateur 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, I applaud your perspective on the problems with your 911 and resulting outcome. You're a good man!! Nice one. I hope you get another 911 in the future and hope that the 3rd time is a charm!! All the very best.
@atastefortheroad4475
@atastefortheroad4475 5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely agree. Nick - you've been very classy through the entire process and set a great tone for others to follow. I hope you're able to enjoy the hunt for another car and a classic - modern or vintage - sounds like a great idea. Summer is just around the corner. Cheers.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 5 жыл бұрын
Auto Amateur very cool James and Nick pinned your comment. Way to go. Heidi
@goatee01
@goatee01 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently Bush is smarter than Nick - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZvQm6SihLWXbKM
@beano6452
@beano6452 5 жыл бұрын
Not only did he buy a lemon, Porsche actually damaged it on two separate occasions while in for repair. “No big deal”. A thoroughly nice bloke 👍
@beano6452
@beano6452 5 жыл бұрын
What’s worse is Porsche are probably going to stick it up for sale for another unsuspecting customer to buy. The thing should be sent back to Porsche in Stuttgart and dissected to understand what’s gone wrong and learn from it. Will you keep an eye on where it ends up, Nick?
@MemoryLaneCinema
@MemoryLaneCinema 5 жыл бұрын
Just amazing that you have experienced this from 2 new 911's. I think they really owe you as a customer.
@claus1225
@claus1225 5 жыл бұрын
he probably could have bought a ferrari and not have as many problems.
@MemoryLaneCinema
@MemoryLaneCinema 5 жыл бұрын
@@claus1225 911's is way more reliable than ferrari
@APsupportsTerrorism
@APsupportsTerrorism 5 жыл бұрын
As an aircraft mechanic, makes me question the competence of technicians working on it. When you have multiple problems like that... it's either a fluke dud from the factory... or it had 1 problem, maybe that 1 issue created another 1 or 2... but once you fix those it should be fine. Especially with the way they just shotgunned line item parts at it. If it's still breaking, suggests they didn't do good work and broke something else in the process. Forgot to do some alignments or settings, didn't setup the computers to talk to eachother... whatever it is... when you say it felt like it got worse... sounds a lot like bad maintenance. Every time they fixed something, they broke something else. And it's a vicious cycle. I see it all the time with people trying to hurry or just lazy and haven't developed that mindset. See it more with car mechanics b/c there's no FAA or EASA breathing down their neck and ... let's face it... your car isn't going to cause 80 people to fall out of the sky and die. But definitely sounds like poor level of shop maintenance to me. Moreso when you say it's the 2nd car like this from same dealer.
@BluHighways
@BluHighways 4 жыл бұрын
I would agree. Anytime there are a series of consecutive issues where each "fix" generates sequential failures this is a problem with the servicing individual(s).
@zigwil153
@zigwil153 10 ай бұрын
You sound like an aircraft mechanic... (complement)
@ProjectJamesify
@ProjectJamesify 5 жыл бұрын
What a wholesome and positive-minded man, respect!
@jasswear8911
@jasswear8911 5 жыл бұрын
You are in a weird abusive relationship with Porsche. No matter what they do to you you keep going back.
@Zuxeh
@Zuxeh 5 жыл бұрын
lmao
@dinopappous6639
@dinopappous6639 4 жыл бұрын
I know many suckers drinking the German Kool Aid Porsche = Glorified VW Alfa = Ferrari The true legacy cannot be denied.... Once owned a Porsche 924 ...YIKES ...what a disaster... Followed that up with a 911....IMS bearing....no need to tell you more....
@alhodge4051
@alhodge4051 5 жыл бұрын
two 911 buy backs. statistically you are primed to win the lotto.
@acorntree404
@acorntree404 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, The odds of german lemons are VERY high.
@commanderrussels2612
@commanderrussels2612 5 жыл бұрын
the computers and stuff in cars today are pretty hit or miss. i just had my dealer buy back my car.
@joeyjoejums
@joeyjoejums 5 жыл бұрын
He had 2???
@alhodge4051
@alhodge4051 5 жыл бұрын
@@joeyjoejums many episodes on the first buy back...a must watch series..
@alhodge4051
@alhodge4051 5 жыл бұрын
@@commanderrussels2612 Porsche is at the top of the quality list. a two in a row buy back in unthinkable.... oops..
@DJ_NOOB
@DJ_NOOB 5 жыл бұрын
I do respect your laid back approach to the whole situation but man, honestly I think Porsche really needs to do right by you. You are right, you have been a big ambassador for the brand. Even though you might not want 992 (yet), they should be handing you the keys to a new car and saying they're sorry that this is the second car in a row that has gone wrong. They owe you that.
@tesbarnett45
@tesbarnett45 5 жыл бұрын
DJNOOB I agree..and you still love the brand, which I could understand. Keep the faith brother, “it’s darkest before the dawn, but the dawn never fails... Trust in the dawn,
@myaccount__7269
@myaccount__7269 5 жыл бұрын
@@tesbarnett45 lol they don't owe him anything
@KarmaticEvolution
@KarmaticEvolution 5 жыл бұрын
DJNOOB you are saying they should give him a free car for their two lemons?
@tesbarnett45
@tesbarnett45 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, Porsche should do the right thing for dedicated customers like NIck. It is a simple matter of principle. No lost to a mega company.
@myaccount__7269
@myaccount__7269 5 жыл бұрын
Tes Barnett guess we found the Bernie supporter here
@MarshallHurtado
@MarshallHurtado 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, I think the stars have aligned for you to get a GT3 Touring :)
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Marshall Hurtado yes bro!!
@craigyirush3492
@craigyirush3492 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely! He’s had so much luck with 911s.
@imaguest4941
@imaguest4941 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah right, buy another junky Porsche. Great advice.
@humorsourceincturner7854
@humorsourceincturner7854 5 жыл бұрын
The GT3 Touring, I agree, is what would make you the happiest. And me. It would make me happy. Besides, take advantage of your high profile with the dealer and brand by charming them into putting in a allocation for you. The process of spec-ing the car would be youtube gold, as would the delivery and of course the reviews. I know you like dark blue, but if you could swing a paint to sample GT3 Touring, I think British Racing Green is the proper color for that car. Dark blue seems too subdued.
@eyesurgeon69
@eyesurgeon69 5 жыл бұрын
Do you watch his channel? He's stated repeatedly that he doesn't like GT cars as daily drivers.
@nickname1812
@nickname1812 5 жыл бұрын
Nick. When Boeing say they have fixed the 737 Max 8. Don't get on it.
@SCYorks
@SCYorks 5 жыл бұрын
Harsh!!!
@bokiNYC
@bokiNYC 4 жыл бұрын
😆😆
@DealsByChris
@DealsByChris 5 жыл бұрын
What about a Porsche Boxster? Top down for the summer if you're into that. Do a quick 2-3 year lease, bring it in 3-9 months early (if it makes sense) then get the new body 911. M2 would be the other way, or new body M5. Or just get another 911, maybe a Targa. I think it doesn't matter what brand it is, cars have thousands of moving parts, problems just happen.
@mx2323
@mx2323 5 жыл бұрын
You are a great ambassador to the Porsche brand. Enjoy your videos and looking forward to whatever car comes next.
@johnsun11
@johnsun11 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@dylanbland
@dylanbland 5 жыл бұрын
Great attitude Nick! At least you have so many fun memories to look back on with your car! Look forward to seeing what’s next. Onward!
@Raprada
@Raprada 5 жыл бұрын
You definitely didn't abused it, you're just using it just like any other car. Thinking about it, maybe your car freaked out because you drive it like a normal car. The electronics thought they were in a 911 yet got the same mileage as a Passat, making it got an identity crisis and breaking down. Yep this is 100% what happened.
@kriskantu
@kriskantu 5 жыл бұрын
How about just accepting that apart from the badge, Porsche is junk.
@normsallitt2753
@normsallitt2753 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, you're honesty being too forgiving about this... especially considering that this is now the second time it's happened. I'm a 30 year Porsche owner (2 currently) and love the brand, but this is ridiculous. Loyalty to and from the brand should be a two-way street and they should recognize all that you've done to help promote their brand through your videos. This should be a full sale price refund at the very least. Good luck with everything and I look forward to seeing what you choose next. 👍
@lapamful
@lapamful 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That is quite a bit of cheek for Porsche to reduce the buyback price. There are perfectly good legal grounds for compensation. But I'm just wondering if this is to do with Porsche or Nick's local dealer? Either way, as you say considering Nick's continued support for the brand he should be given gold star treatment! But maybe we're not being told everything and Nick doesn't want to be in this dealer's bad books for some reason? Something doesn't add up here. Oh well...
@nikorootful
@nikorootful 5 жыл бұрын
THIS is how you act in a situation like this. Much respect for being rational and understanding during all of that. Definitely earned a sub from me, can’t wait to see where this channel goes.
@pduffy83usa
@pduffy83usa 5 жыл бұрын
Do a follow up video on what they give you for it.
@grownsimba8120
@grownsimba8120 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say, but it's about time. I could never keep driving a car that has had to spend so much time at a dealer. And on multiple occasions at that. Unfortunate that it didn't work out.
@Porsche996-t1y
@Porsche996-t1y 5 жыл бұрын
I am beginning to wonder if the pattern here isn't the dealer, rather than the cars? It isn't rocket science, and Porsche wouldn't be in business if they were pumping out a never-ending series of out-of-spec parts. I am having difficulty believing in this dealer's ability to properly diagnose and fix problems.
@HZACHARY2004
@HZACHARY2004 5 жыл бұрын
Nicky.. Porsche owes you a lot. You are one of their best salesmen in the US/NZ etc. Apply your considerable leverage.
@mattreid8755
@mattreid8755 5 жыл бұрын
Henry Zachary haha I think they would rather he stops posting KZbin’s
@claus1225
@claus1225 5 жыл бұрын
He did. That's why Porsche bought car back. Ordinarily, Porsche wouldnt even give a squat.
@rantANDrave1987
@rantANDrave1987 5 жыл бұрын
You’re more than a car channel. Your perspective and outlook on life’s curveballs is something to watch and learn from itself
@mahmoudobeid3397
@mahmoudobeid3397 5 жыл бұрын
I like that you embrace the wisdom of 'things are not perfect in life... & that's ok'. And you don't trash the Porsche brand because it truly is the best car manufacturer in the world. Awesome attitude. It's refreshing to see a KZbinr who keeps it real & is not pointing the finger at everyone, playing the blame game & the victim game. Well done. You're a gentleman & a professional.
@IssaBendeck1
@IssaBendeck1 4 жыл бұрын
not the best maufacturer it is the best at building cars that drive perfect thats all lests not get confused here best to me means durability and most european cars the engines dont last too longand porsche is one of em
@quecojones1728
@quecojones1728 2 жыл бұрын
pues cómprate un coche americano., para pasar el mes
@mykullee
@mykullee 5 жыл бұрын
Good on you Nick. You speak with good attitude and I like that you had a good outlook of the event. I have been here since the Porsche before THIS one refused to be owned by you too. I am looking forward to your next vehicle and adventures with it. Cheers from Canadia.
@anotherone10
@anotherone10 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Porsche is lucky to have such a nice & understanding customer like Nick. Considering this is his 2nd Porsche in a row to go wrong like this, many people would be quite angry about that
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 5 жыл бұрын
And rightly so. Not everybody has nerve (or spare cash) to shake off experiences like this. I hope the buy back price is generous, market rate wouldn't be fair given what a gong show this car and the previous was. I love Porsche but this simply isn't good enough.
@bb5242
@bb5242 5 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing how reliable Porsches are but every owner I have met has had a very mixed experience overall.
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 5 жыл бұрын
Damn your BMW was more reliable. That's saying alot...
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 5 жыл бұрын
Not really they are mass produced cars, expect better reliability. Wouldn't be surprised if bmw's inline 6 is Germany's most reliable engine. If they can't make it work by now, they should just quit the business. ;)
@Sebbe40
@Sebbe40 5 жыл бұрын
BMW's from 2012 and forward have really good reliability. I used to work as a service manager at a BMW dealership and we really didn't have too many issues. Not compared to other brands atleast.
@RCXDerp
@RCXDerp 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sebbe40 Do they still use plastic water pumps doe
@suckerz01520
@suckerz01520 5 жыл бұрын
My F80 M3 is going strong. Daily driver and used properly.
@Cornwall1888
@Cornwall1888 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff K my 15 year old z4 has a 3.0 straight 6 engine and I’ve had zeros problems with it I always wonder what the hell is going on with these KZbinrs who have really expensive cars which break within weeks
@carysparer8372
@carysparer8372 6 ай бұрын
I totally understand the desire to have a radar/lidar detector installed. However, whenever you have a 3rd party cutting and splicing into your wiring harness, you risk unintended consequences. Your “Unluckiness” with your car(s) is very likely linked to this activity. I’m a bit surprised Porsche paid for diagnostics when the wiring harness was modified by a local shop. Please correct me if this is an incorrect assertion.
@ethranton
@ethranton 5 жыл бұрын
You’re a level headed, sensible bloke. What an amazing car that was. Sad it had to end that way. Looking forward to seeing your next one
@henningkarbstein777
@henningkarbstein777 5 жыл бұрын
TAYCAN! (... you should be able to get your hands on one of the first ones in the US)
@markmetzger6630
@markmetzger6630 5 жыл бұрын
I had several 911’s and have never had a problem I driven them in all weather and the car has always been a pleasure Sorry for your problems nick
@bradulovic82
@bradulovic82 5 жыл бұрын
Get an BMW M2 Comp with the manual.
@seanpittacora9668
@seanpittacora9668 5 жыл бұрын
In Long Beach Blue.
@derekherod9420
@derekherod9420 5 жыл бұрын
This is the right answer Nick!
@seanpittacora9668
@seanpittacora9668 5 жыл бұрын
Derek Herod Indeed.
@fridex851
@fridex851 5 жыл бұрын
@@seanpittacora9668 exactly what i have. do it Nick!
@seanpittacora9668
@seanpittacora9668 5 жыл бұрын
fridex851 That must be a riot! Would definitely love to own one once the prices come down a bit and before they inevitably go up again!
@foshizzle3459
@foshizzle3459 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to cry to see it gone. Cars are attachment to one’s life. Hope u get another 911 soon. At least you still have twoey. Thanks Nick, was tremendous delight watching your 911 video and get to learn something every time.
@atlasrex
@atlasrex 4 жыл бұрын
I never let some kids hack into the wiring of my expensive new car to install silly things like radar detector or after market stereos or alarm systems - these new cars have complex electrical systems that when you let some kid cut and install wires all over the car and cut the wire loom you are asking for a serious problem. It seems surprising that Porsche bought the car back after these rear and alarms were installed. The one common issue with these two cars is you had the same shop install these after market electronics. It would be interesting to know how many 9-1’s has Porsche bought back under the lemon law?
@NickMurray
@NickMurray 4 жыл бұрын
But you don’t know what you’re talking about. The wiring was never touched The power was pulled from the OBD port, in the approved Porsche standard. Porsche subsequently found the actual problems with these cars and they had nothing to do with the install camera or radar system. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@atlasrex
@atlasrex 4 жыл бұрын
@@NickMurray okay - just seemed curious that two 911’s had what sounded like similar problems. We’re these problems with the electrical systems rampant across a large number of cars? I was wondering why there are not a lot of disgruntled 911 owner videos on KZbin discussing similar unrepairable electrical issues with their cars? You noted that Porsche finally discovered the problem - did one of your videos discuss what they found? These problems you had not with one but two 911’s makes it kind of scary to order a new 911 for $150,000 to only buy yourself a bundle of expensive frustrating issues with the car. This is why God made Lexus - for those who want cars that never need warranty repairs.
@NDCDA62
@NDCDA62 5 жыл бұрын
For the record, I have a Porsche 911 C4S and have not had a single issue with it. I simply love this car!!
@NDCDA62
@NDCDA62 4 жыл бұрын
@Blackporsche roadster you don’t know me and I don’t know you, so do not assume. I now own a new 992 C4S and, again, have not had a single issue.
@sellnbrew1
@sellnbrew1 10 ай бұрын
I’m really thankful for your comment. I’m very close to pulling the trigger on a 991.2, but man, this gives me pause.
@Minoltalphafan
@Minoltalphafan 5 жыл бұрын
I would seriously question the competence of the Dealer service staff at this point.
@thhall459
@thhall459 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, major bummer. I was SO hoping you would tell us they found a specific problem, fixed it, and all is well.
@eheis5
@eheis5 5 жыл бұрын
Truly a commendable attitude, Nick. Your issues are particularly strange to me after doing multiple Porsche driving experiences, the Ice Force up in Finland in particular. Those cars run for 8 hours a day with snow in the radiators and ping off of snow walls all day without missing a beat. Fingers crossed for your future cars.
@shirazcooper5279
@shirazcooper5279 7 ай бұрын
Hi Nick. As with so many of the comments before, I admire your philosophical attitude in the face of blatant engineering failure. You are a gentlemen for being so kind to the porsche brand. I owned a 993 in Europe during my earlier single days; it gave me so so much joy. 20 years and 3 kids later I have just taken a leap of faith and bought myself a used 991.2s with 27k on the clock. I can do nothing but simply hope for the best. Thanks for your entertaining and informative videos!!
@yass123
@yass123 5 жыл бұрын
Your first broken 911 is what made me love you
@hcooC
@hcooC 5 жыл бұрын
yass123 so you love him twice? 😊👍
@yass123
@yass123 5 жыл бұрын
@@hcooC yes, of course 😁
@studiolezard
@studiolezard 5 жыл бұрын
Might your detector have interfered with the car's electronics? Like Jeremy Clarkson's GT and the infamous immobilizer?
@karlisrubenis
@karlisrubenis 5 жыл бұрын
Love the positivity. Keep it up! Can’t wait for my first 911 one day.
@stubailey9433
@stubailey9433 5 жыл бұрын
Respect to you Nick for taking this so well. Good luck with the next car.
@ricokoegelenberg1150
@ricokoegelenberg1150 5 жыл бұрын
Nick... Good example for us all with your patience and the way you handled this. Very diplomatic and I believe the correct way. Thanks, Appreciated.
@gigiberlogea9878
@gigiberlogea9878 5 жыл бұрын
100k for a car and this.... I would be somewhat angry...
@jake4030
@jake4030 5 жыл бұрын
Listen to what Nick said, you can be angry, negative, pissed, whatever - but what does that do? It does nothing. I'd be angry if they weren't helpful, responsive, etc...But they weren't, they were helpful, accommodating and more. Shit happens, its a car.
@gigiberlogea9878
@gigiberlogea9878 5 жыл бұрын
@@jake4030 :) I know.... I'm weird :)
@venom5809
@venom5809 5 жыл бұрын
There’s no point, take the buyback and move on and hope they let you get one of the special cool ones when they come out, preferably with a nice discount. He’s earned a damn free GT3 RS at this point to be honest.
@gigiberlogea9878
@gigiberlogea9878 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe these car manufacturers need to step up their quaoity controls?... A weird idea I know...
@olaniyi570
@olaniyi570 5 жыл бұрын
@@gigiberlogea9878 Nah, I understand where you're coming from. I think they should have refunded the full purchase price.
@alexaj5821
@alexaj5821 5 жыл бұрын
I liked pissed off Nick from the first 911 lemon much better.
@po.russki
@po.russki 5 жыл бұрын
Alex AJ yeah those were the fun days
@claus1225
@claus1225 5 жыл бұрын
I think he colluded with Porsche. I dont believe him anymore.
@theyruinedyoutubeagain
@theyruinedyoutubeagain 5 жыл бұрын
I bet he's actually just way better off than back then. Financial security can make you chilled out about many things.
@jpdp3339
@jpdp3339 5 жыл бұрын
@@theyruinedyoutubeagain I agree, also, he's more popular and Porsche wouldn't want any bad rep.
@integrafreak1
@integrafreak1 5 жыл бұрын
What happened to the 1st one?
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 5 жыл бұрын
They basically turn your purchase into a lease and take the car back early. Glad it all worked out in the end. Look forward to your next adventures.
@CaptSpikey
@CaptSpikey 5 жыл бұрын
A true car guy and a super positive outlook in life! Very graciously done video!
@polarbear111000
@polarbear111000 5 жыл бұрын
Nick you're a class act. You're not out to bitch or whine, or have unreasonable expectations. You are the kind of guy people like to do business with. Thanx for the update. I hope everything gets worked out sooner than later..........cheers.
@22Jdws
@22Jdws 5 жыл бұрын
M2 competition sounds fun until the next big car 👍
@rho008
@rho008 5 жыл бұрын
Since when is a Porsche bigger than M BMW? You just paid extra 10 grand just to have Power Seats, Seat Warmer, and a Clock in the middle. This all come standard even in a Toyota Corolla.
@albertbord
@albertbord 5 жыл бұрын
@@rho008 since when? Always have been. Im a bmw fanboy too, its just the way it is.
@farzana6676
@farzana6676 5 жыл бұрын
@@rho008 LOL, 911 has always been bigger than M car.
@rho008
@rho008 5 жыл бұрын
@@albertbord then you're no " fanboy"
@rho008
@rho008 5 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 you should just get Mercedez as your "status symbol" car
@stevenreichertart
@stevenreichertart 5 жыл бұрын
You're way ABOVE average, and you're being way too kind to Porsche.
@claus1225
@claus1225 5 жыл бұрын
He colluded with Porsche. There is definitely some secret agreement.
@testalino
@testalino 5 жыл бұрын
@@claus1225 and why on earth would he hide that in this video? That theory makes no sense to me. Everybody watching this drama would be happy if Porsche gave Nick a new one for free or something.
@KarmaticEvolution
@KarmaticEvolution 5 жыл бұрын
testalino don’t feed the troll!
@NoPrivateProperty
@NoPrivateProperty 5 жыл бұрын
I paid $2k for used Mazda and have had zero problems for 3 years so far.
@numbereightyseven
@numbereightyseven 4 жыл бұрын
24 years owning 3 different Toyotas (all 2nd-hand). The total pool of problems has been: 1 starter motor (fixed under warrantee), & 1 speedometer cable (DIY repair). I'd love a Porsche, but I still have too much self-respect going on.
@naithomlodanap2180
@naithomlodanap2180 5 жыл бұрын
You are a true gentleman, hope you get another Porsche. You deserve the best.
@bbqjones
@bbqjones 5 жыл бұрын
I am tearing up watching this video. So sorry to hear. Nick! You're a good man and I know the next Porsche will work out for you.
@royjones59344
@royjones59344 5 жыл бұрын
Great attitude. Compared to some problems having Porsche troubles ranks pretty low.
@anthonys4159
@anthonys4159 5 жыл бұрын
Just continue driving your VW Golf until your next 911.
@po.russki
@po.russki 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony S that’s not interesting for the channel
@Nordkapp65
@Nordkapp65 5 жыл бұрын
BMW M2 competition, lovely car and quite a lot of interest in the car particularly in the UK . Worth looking at some of Joe Achilles youtube videos on what is a great drivers car
@jonathanwinston9958
@jonathanwinston9958 5 жыл бұрын
I actually chose the M2C over the 911 as well. Great decision
@natebot321
@natebot321 5 жыл бұрын
I love Nick's attitude towards the whole situation, it's a very real and respectable mindset. Because he's right, shit happens and it's just a car! Life continues on.
@MauriceJallad
@MauriceJallad 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, the same message happened to me for the PSM malfunction message. Porsche said it is just a sensor, they did change it and it is fine now.
@andrewsilver
@andrewsilver 5 жыл бұрын
Consider the updated 2019 Miata / RF Grand Touring if you fit.
@choddsmd7164
@choddsmd7164 5 жыл бұрын
My last car was a 991 C4S cab, loved it. Once the warranty ran out, those ghosts started to arise. I now drive a 2019 BMW M5 comp. look into a F90 M5
@trustgtr33
@trustgtr33 5 жыл бұрын
two lemons in a row says a lot about 911 reliability
@keithnewgent7706
@keithnewgent7706 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, so sorry about your Porsche experience.. I've fulfilled my dream and bought a 2015 model 981 S. It has performed perfectly with 12,000 miles. Give it another go. Its worth it! Best.
@Alexwellman7
@Alexwellman7 5 жыл бұрын
Nick you always such a positive attitude towards things in life, and I see we tend to have that similarity. Never take life too seriously, things could always be worse.
@adventureswithtrey1658
@adventureswithtrey1658 5 жыл бұрын
Will they/ did they pay for the extras you spent (clear bra dash cams) ?
@TechnoMonkeyFarm
@TechnoMonkeyFarm 5 жыл бұрын
Hard wired radar also
@MBisFrenchy
@MBisFrenchy 5 жыл бұрын
He replied to me for ppf he thinks so. Not sure about the rest I guess he needs to hire someone or remove them himself.
@SendItMediaCo
@SendItMediaCo 5 жыл бұрын
Doubt it
@john_p
@john_p 5 жыл бұрын
@@SendItMediaCo imposter!
@HotTakeHQ
@HotTakeHQ 5 жыл бұрын
RIP. I’ve loved all the 911 content. And your ownership is one I enjoyed vicariously. A lot. I also LOVE the aviation stuff too! Gotta get me a shirt one day soon! Best wishes nick.
@claus1225
@claus1225 5 жыл бұрын
When you have 2 consecutive total failures with same model. You should blame on the manufacturer. There is clearly something wrong with 911.
@claus1225
@claus1225 5 жыл бұрын
@J K sure Jan.
@dinopappous6639
@dinopappous6639 4 жыл бұрын
The voice of reason....
@a.c.e.7568
@a.c.e.7568 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a servicing issue when it comes to the "fixes". No matter what dealer you go to or what car brand you own, most mechanics are not very good at diagnosing issues. And no, its not just another car. And your dogs are damn lucky as they would never get into any of my 911s. Nor would a sofa make it to the roof of my 993 or 991 GTS. I have a daily driver Acura SUV for that.
@venomhammer9592
@venomhammer9592 5 жыл бұрын
I’m really sad to hear this story. I’ve had my 991.2 Turbo for over a year now with absolutely no problems. I hope you get another one.
@chrisburger4518
@chrisburger4518 5 жыл бұрын
If Nick's "car" were a Toyota, people would be howling about the shabby quality. Since it's a Porsche less people are howling - maybe more laughing. As an owner of a Toyota 4Runner and a Porsche (the much lesser Boxster), I can say the first goal of any "car" is transportation. Porsche has failed its most basic mission here. My Boxster has had the transmission replaced, the top retract replaced, and now the driver door window is inoperable. I have put a whopping 6K on the odometer. It is my first and last Porsche. I appreciate Nick's time and humor in producing these videos. The C8 should be his next toy.
@mgd455
@mgd455 5 жыл бұрын
what model year is your boxster? I am curious because I have a 2009 BMW 135i and want another car.
@prant8998
@prant8998 5 жыл бұрын
Engineers can make glitch free cars, (Toyota 4Runner.) I have a 4Runner and used to have a 911T, (long time ago), no AC, roll up windows, air cooled, carbureted engine. It was amazing, and I still think about it. My advice, go back to the essence and get a 911 Singer air cooled rebuild. Germans, always, over engineer, AND, the have no impulse control. If they think of an, “improvement," it goes right in there. In aviation, they call them, "Hanger Queens.” Always in the shop. Who, has the time for that? Modern Porsches are for lease only!
@numbereightyseven
@numbereightyseven 4 жыл бұрын
24 years owning 3 different Toyotas (all 2nd-hand). The total pool of problems has been: 1 starter motor (fixed under extended warrantee - the car was then 10 years old), & 1 speedometer cable (DIY repair). I'd love a Porsche, but I still have too much self-respect going on.
@cleanasdirt6832
@cleanasdirt6832 5 жыл бұрын
You should of given Franny a crack at deciphering the problems.🇨🇦
@myaccount__7269
@myaccount__7269 5 жыл бұрын
Why? It has a warranty
@zestylobstertail4277
@zestylobstertail4277 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should get a 997.2 Turbo until you're ready to move on to 992
@alvingovindan6339
@alvingovindan6339 5 жыл бұрын
Zesty Lobster Tail 997.1 Turbo - metzger engine
@TheMarkKaze
@TheMarkKaze 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick. Your story scares me, I took delivery on a 2019 C4S last November and watching your build video and experience update videos helped me immensely with my option choices and I added a lot of them because this is my Bucket List Retirement Car and I am hoping that it lasts until they take my car keys away or I "Kick the Proverbial Bucket". One thought that I continually had when I learned of your problems is about the "Messing around with the Wiring Loom", as you call it. Unfortunately, a few years back we had to have an Ignition Interlock System installed on my Wife's VW Passat, and this requires "Messing around with the Wiring Loom" in much the same fashion as they did when they installed the Escort MAX Ci 360 radar and laser detection system in your C4S. Our experience after our installation was much like yours with the C4S, crazy electrical things started happening and both the installer and VW said, much as the Scarecrow in the Wizard of OZ as he crossed his hands across his chest and pointed in opposite directions saying, "They went thatta way". In the end, we had the device removed, traded the car for a VW Tiguan, and went to a different ignition interlock installer. No problems with that install. I hope you get another Porsche, you location seems ideal for a Taycan and you could be among the first Video Reviewers if your dealership put you on top of their waiting list as a Gesture of Good Faith. I'm in Idaho now but still own 1/3 of my Dad's house in Waterford, CT, with my 2 brothers, and love trying to figure out what roads your are driving on as I have a Best Man/Best Friend who lives in Stamford and I visit both locations often. Good Luck! Love your Video Reviews. Regards, Mark K.
@drcollie
@drcollie 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you get a lemon. Work with Porsche beyond the dealer to get a new vehicle, they are a reasonable company. I'm on my 5th 911 Porsche (first one was in 1975) and they have proven to be tough, reliable vehicles that can take a lot of hard driving. I have over 500,000 miles in Porsches, still driving them.
@donkeyshot8472
@donkeyshot8472 5 жыл бұрын
This video tells me all I need to know about whether to buy a Porsche or not. Thanks.
@zibby43
@zibby43 5 жыл бұрын
How about an AMG? They have quite a few exciting offerings right now. Best of luck going forward with whatever you choose
@commanderrussels2612
@commanderrussels2612 5 жыл бұрын
i don't think any of the AMGs come with manual gearboxes, which he seems to feel is a requirement. I agree with you though, maybe a GTR
@zibby43
@zibby43 5 жыл бұрын
Commander Russels Good point re: the manual gearbox. I drove the GT S at COTA and from a performance perspective, it can easily be mentioned in the same breath as several of the 911 offerings.
@gaurpranav
@gaurpranav 5 жыл бұрын
If only you had listened to Scotty Kilmer 😂
@Shadowcu123
@Shadowcu123 5 жыл бұрын
Pranav Gaur I keep hearing Scotty laughing then saying “they are endless money pits!” 😆 in the background. Nick should’ve gotten a Toyota Celica
@joekkl
@joekkl 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought. Money pit.
@gaurpranav
@gaurpranav 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shadowcu123 haha..lol
@gaurpranav
@gaurpranav 5 жыл бұрын
@@joekkl lol..i still love Porsche tho!.. Some cars are worth the money :) ...some are meh! just transportation :).
@prant8998
@prant8998 5 жыл бұрын
Scotty Kilmer, is the best! Lease that damn thing and give it back to them.
@MadelnMachines
@MadelnMachines 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you're so calm. It's not just a car - it's a £100,000+ car. If I was supposed to redecorate your bedroom and ended up accidentally knocking down your entire house with a wrecking ball I recon you'd be fine with it. Maybe even happy about it.
@g.w.7893
@g.w.7893 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like some really shoddy mechanical work involving the wiring harness and CPU. Best of luck with your next set of wheels.
@zxcdg123
@zxcdg123 5 жыл бұрын
Get a pt cruiser gt. I heard they get a lot of ladies!
@NickMurray
@NickMurray 5 жыл бұрын
YES
@marksuave25
@marksuave25 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. My kids just got one!
@edyb2653
@edyb2653 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of Albert and Tui, you have Gremlins in your car, Nick. I’m completely flabbergasted mate! Give me a few days to swallow it all... In the meantime, my sincere condolences with your beautiful C4S. Cheers, Irwin
@ImLeuff
@ImLeuff 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I was as reasonable and relaxed about my ex as you are about your car. Also 991.2 looks way prettier than 992 in my book, real sweet spot. As for next car: wonder what ever happened to that sweet little red Toyota MR2 AW11 hmm 🤔
5 жыл бұрын
Sophisticated and complex cars have sophisticated and complex problems but this situation was over the top. Good luck with your next car, hopefully it will be a gem.
@guerinwoodgate
@guerinwoodgate 5 жыл бұрын
After owning two Porsche Cayman 987.1 and 987.2, I bought a 991.1 911. I owned it exactly 4 months and got rid of it. The car lived in the shop so I bought a second Mercedes-Benz E63 and have been thrilled over the past two years. Both Mercedes-Benz E63s have been super reliable and the Dealership experience has been top notch. The Porsche and Mercedes-Benz dealerships are side-by-side in the same parking lot and branded with the same brand - Park Place. The experience at Porsche was very poor yet the experience at Mercedes-Benz has always been fabulous. It is apparent that Porsche is hiding their faults and blaming the customer for their lack of quality - at least that has been my experience with my 911.
@anthonyboyer5267
@anthonyboyer5267 5 жыл бұрын
A Dallasite, eh? I am quite familiar with Park Place. I don't live in Dallas any longer, but I sometimes wonder if Ramzi is still there. He is the only salesman with whom I had ever dealt.
@RogerBaileyOnCars
@RogerBaileyOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
You have the right attitude with this, commendable, so what’s next ?
@go-kartmozart2245
@go-kartmozart2245 5 жыл бұрын
How about a Mercedes AMG GT? I'm sure there are good deals for a new Acura NSX? My favourite would be a McLaren 570 and Bruce McLaren was a Kiwi, so you have to get one
@john_p
@john_p 5 жыл бұрын
you started so strong (amg gt) how could you possibly go on to suggest an nsx in the same breath? my god man! 570 is another great suggestion, how the fu$k can you lump an nsx in with those two?!
@go-kartmozart2245
@go-kartmozart2245 5 жыл бұрын
@@john_p The only thing wrong with the NSX is that they called it an NSX. Yeah, it has none of the things that made the original special, but if you can get past that you'll see you get a lot of performance and technology for about the same price as Nick's broken Porsche
@john_p
@john_p 5 жыл бұрын
@@go-kartmozart2245 it seems a lot of people can't get past that .. they've sold about 3 of them?
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 5 жыл бұрын
The Mercedes is a good suggestion. I was a strong BMW (5) and Porsche (2) man, until I got my first Mercedes a couple years ago. Would buy another in a heartbeat if this one ever leaves. But if you're looking for reliability, I'd go Japanese. The Germans don't cut it.
@go-kartmozart2245
@go-kartmozart2245 5 жыл бұрын
@@john_p Exactly, because of that dealers are desperate to sell and are giving huge discounts. Once the internet hate train calms down on that car, people will regret not buying them
@SuperSetright
@SuperSetright 5 жыл бұрын
I hope I am wrong Nick.......but you may be disappointed with the offer they make. Interested to see how this will pan out.
@trevorleggo1777
@trevorleggo1777 5 жыл бұрын
Your maturity & understanding is commendable...stuff happens. sounds like Porsche are doing the right thing, a lot more than just about every car brand in the world.
@vroompaa3333
@vroompaa3333 4 жыл бұрын
Hats off to you Nick The first KZbinr to actually buy a manual car with his own money. Others claim they love a manual so much bla bla bla and then end up choosing the auto version 🙈🙈
@singletrackftw
@singletrackftw 5 жыл бұрын
How refreshing to see an adult deal with a first world problem in an adult matter with an adult perspective on how his life isn’t completely ruined from such a small problem! You da man. Way to handle this gracefully and patiently.
@shshh-fw9eh
@shshh-fw9eh 5 жыл бұрын
If this was a Maserati or an Alfa Romeo from the 90's, wouldn't be all that surprising but a brand new 911? That's a very different story. Turning itself off upon hitting some bumps? Madness! Where is German engineerimg gone I wonder. Or maybe it was never there.
@LaSombraa
@LaSombraa 5 жыл бұрын
shsh8879 h Porsche in the 2000s isn’t the same Porsche from the 1900s bro..
@dinopappous6639
@dinopappous6639 4 жыл бұрын
DUDE...you are RIDICULOUS....Keep drinking the German Kool Aid.... I've owned 5 Alfas and 3 Maseratis.....all were flawless if you did the proper maintenance....1964 Giulia Sprint GT (I was just blasting around with it today), 1991 164 S ( a sedan that was designed to fly on the autobahn at 140 MPH all day long and the best naturally aspirated V 6 EVER), 2017 Giulia Quadrifoglio (blows away every "M" on the planet), and a 2020 Stelvio Ti Sport ( makes the Macan look every bit like a TIGUAN - which it is)....FORZA ALFA BABY !!!! Don't drink the German Kool Aid M 5 Vanos Failures M 5 Rod Bearing Failiures 911 IMS Bearing Failures M 3 Sub Frame Cracks.... Believe me, I could go on FOREVER !!!!
@dinopappous6639
@dinopappous6639 4 жыл бұрын
@@LaSombraa ...THEY WERE ALWAYS *HIT !!! Just managed to create an IMAGE and the GERMAN FANBOY SUCKERS BOUGHT IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER !!!!
@niosanfrancisco
@niosanfrancisco 5 жыл бұрын
A true gentleman. get another Porsche - nothing will even come close.
@imaguest4941
@imaguest4941 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nothing comes close. Two buybacks prove you cannot buy a worse car.
@zombiestation
@zombiestation 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, I have been looking for over two years... Chevy Corvette Z06 or Grand Sport with a manual transmission! You can only drive it in the Summer though. The C8 mid-engine Corvette will be here in July!
@andrewblakesimonds1258
@andrewblakesimonds1258 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, I've owned an air-cooled 911 (964) for 20 years, now has 175k miles. Not overly teched out, great driver. I highly recommend you go classic!
@Svenningur
@Svenningur 5 жыл бұрын
You should get your self a AMG GTR next untill 992 911
@brucemitton6548
@brucemitton6548 5 жыл бұрын
I think you should have a T-shirt that says "Porsche owners are stoic". You certainly seem to be.
@TheChannel1978
@TheChannel1978 5 жыл бұрын
Or 'Porsche owners don't care if their 100k car is a lemon'
@tayl0rd553
@tayl0rd553 5 жыл бұрын
It's the Aussie blood. "No worries, mate."
@wolfschwartze4823
@wolfschwartze4823 5 жыл бұрын
Nick. Get a nice Porsche 964. 1989-1994. Maybe even a Turbo.
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
wolf schwartze way over priced now
@Nord_Mann
@Nord_Mann 5 жыл бұрын
They are awesome! Got one myself. A bit hard work/strenuous to drive though. Consider a classic Nick👍🏻
@zieckenbritz811
@zieckenbritz811 5 жыл бұрын
Old cars are so trash :/
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Takagami Shirou new ones are too apparently.. :D
@adamsaxton1526
@adamsaxton1526 5 жыл бұрын
Takagami Shirou Old cars are better
@markanderson1974
@markanderson1974 5 жыл бұрын
If you get another Porsche and its a complete dog will you be such a brand ambassador? Love your positivity.
@paulwest3656
@paulwest3656 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no!! A couple weeks ago my 2014 911 engine would just shut down. Did it about 5 times on the way home from work.
@thefridgeman
@thefridgeman 5 жыл бұрын
Water under the bridge, it's time for another BMW. Try finding an M4 CS, or go nuts and get an M3 CS. Having the later and it's been a blast! Also, San Marino blue beats that dark blue by a parsec.
@osmiumtank
@osmiumtank 5 жыл бұрын
As classy as your intro music. I salute you sir. Consider an M3 CS or an F90 M5.
@nacholivre3327
@nacholivre3327 5 жыл бұрын
Nick why are you being such an apologist? Engines don't turn off by hitting bumps on the road. Thanks for letting me know that 911s are still terrible.
@LemonJelly360
@LemonJelly360 5 жыл бұрын
As much as I fully believe that ultimately you feel it is “no big deal”, you can tell in your body language that you are gutted/disappointed/upset by it, which is perfectly ok. I’m glad your love of Porsche remains intact and I hope your next car(s) give you plenty of trouble-free driving joy.
@drzar8275
@drzar8275 5 жыл бұрын
Nick. It’s time for a GT3. New or used does not matter, you’ll love it more than any car you’ve had so far. Only glitch is, You’ll have to take it easy in the snow. You’ve dealt with the break downs in a gentlemanly manner. You set a great example.
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