Photographing Wildflowers and Waterfalls - 2018 workshop behind the scenes

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Nick Page

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@alexpecoraro7301
@alexpecoraro7301 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Page, you're a legend! What a beautiful part of the world you live in, a far cry from Western Australia!
@MadsPeterIversen
@MadsPeterIversen 6 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, how I miss that part of the US - I miss all of it. Such fond memories of my days in the gorge! :)
@williamturner1441
@williamturner1441 4 жыл бұрын
We are our own worst enemies. Beautiful video !!!
@jarod17
@jarod17 6 жыл бұрын
Love these "Workshop Behind the Scenes" videos!
@LarryManiccia
@LarryManiccia 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Nick. Truly beautiful places for sure. I agree with the people saying landscape photographers aren't the problem. We treasure places like this and treat them with respect to help preserve them for others to enjoy. Visiting a place and showing respect doesn't destroy a location.The people who lack respect for nature are the ones to blame. Idiots that start fires where they have no business starting fires or dumping their trash all over after partying it up are the ones causing the most problems in these areas.
@Slewis71119
@Slewis71119 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Work Nick
@cosmohudson7178
@cosmohudson7178 6 жыл бұрын
Every single one of your pictures blows my mind. The lighting is always so interesting and glow-ey. I wish we had more time to admire the entire picture at the end of the video - the zooming out effect is cool, but we don't get time to appreciate the whole capture.
@johnmowry8541
@johnmowry8541 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the video. Great to see my friends Tim, Diane and Alex having an awesome time in the PNW. I would love to do this workshop.
@geckonia
@geckonia 6 жыл бұрын
Great blog and I really like how you saved showing the images till the end. The Milky Way over the church is absolutely stunning.
@philiphorton327
@philiphorton327 6 жыл бұрын
Terrific video Nick. Would not blame you, or any other photographer, for not disclosing the locations of their photos. Having traveled to and hiked in many of this nation's national parks, I have seen many examples of the destruction caused by tourists. Keep up the good work!
@seanchristopher1827
@seanchristopher1827 6 жыл бұрын
I visit these same places and have always been vague as to specific location. I doubt that'll ever happen as a movement as too many are now privy. Nick, since your reach is so great, you'd have to be one to take the lead. Love your work and passion.
@BrentHall
@BrentHall 6 жыл бұрын
Good grief those photos, and locations, are incredible!!! I've been to a couple of those waterfalls and I definitely share your feelings about overcrowding and visiting a place to death.
@frankwhittemore9149
@frankwhittemore9149 6 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with you on the sharing of locations. One reason I can think of other than the destruction that stupid people cause and take away the beauty that we have found, is that sometimes the adventure of finding something new and beautiful all by yourself enhances the experience. At least to me. I am very much liking your videos I am a beginner and I'm learning a lot from your videos. They're very well put together and I like them very much they keep my attention. Thank you for being so kind and sharing can't wait to see more.
@GaryGough
@GaryGough 6 жыл бұрын
Fist class as always Nick. Stunning locations with excellent pictures. Shame on the thumb downers. Would love to see their work!
@عالمالورود-ي4ه
@عالمالورود-ي4ه 6 жыл бұрын
Gary Gough جلدي.يدفصزء⁦;-)⁩⁦:-P⁩⁦:-$⁩⁦(TT)⁩⁦^_^⁩⁦=-O⁩
@michaeltucker5505
@michaeltucker5505 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Nick, loved all the beautiful photos.
@andreabechthold8615
@andreabechthold8615 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome photos
@danasnyder3072
@danasnyder3072 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, sensuous video! I know quite well about the trampling issue, as I travelled the Southwest recently, attempting to find unpopulated areas and alternatives to ubiquitous compositions. When in Sedona, I realized all you have to do is choose a hike that is much longer than a mile, further up into wilderness, up another creek away from town, and go on a weekday. Even then I was dismayed with the humanity pushing all the way up to the bases of those amazing rocks. But when I saw a man in a wheelchair roll up to the end of a paved trail to gaze at Cathedral rock, I was also struck with a feeling of gratitude. I think there needs to be a balance, and a way to raise awareness. Of what feet, bicycle tires, tripods, dogs, and Starbucks coffee cups can do to the pristine scenery, crusted earth, sensitive plants, even parking areas, we all seek to experience. I carry garbage bags, teach my grandson not to write his name on anything but paper, and pick up trash along the way back to the car. Education is the key. I’m a gardener and know how long it takes for the landscape to repair itself. But I also really appreciate learning through media about locations, and my google maps is studded with yellow stars. It’s a real conundrum.
@Reed_0024
@Reed_0024 6 жыл бұрын
These look like fun trips!
@CitizenSniiiips
@CitizenSniiiips 6 жыл бұрын
If I lived in the US I would do one of your courses in a heart beat. Look like so much fun and so much knowledge to pick up!
@spl4028
@spl4028 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Nick!, bummer about places like that, that get ruined
@ronchapmanII
@ronchapmanII 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, I wished I recognized the 1st waterfall, I am hoping lewis falls will still be running like that this weekend when I head down there
@PentaxLife
@PentaxLife 6 жыл бұрын
Great video love the shots .
@runninblue9415
@runninblue9415 6 жыл бұрын
Great work. There's also a movement to take a small trash bag with you and everyone bring a couple of pieces back. Makes a difference.
@philipculbertson55
@philipculbertson55 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing places and diggin the music.
@debbielowe9167
@debbielowe9167 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Thoughtful as well as beautiful.
@michaelhill692
@michaelhill692 6 жыл бұрын
Love the video, and the nod to Thomas Heaton.
@terryolsen4244
@terryolsen4244 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful locations. I would like visit and photograph these someday, but I may be too late. Great video!
@Chris-NZ
@Chris-NZ 6 жыл бұрын
Love your work :) Some totally amazing locations .
@MichaelVettas
@MichaelVettas 6 жыл бұрын
awesome Nick, when I get to the US I will have to go shoot with you sometime
@Apalapse
@Apalapse 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Nick.
@savagefrieze4675
@savagefrieze4675 6 жыл бұрын
I do love those places. Moved away from Pacific NW. it is sad to see the over crowding every where in the PNW.
@palvarez64
@palvarez64 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video...
@EdwardSnow
@EdwardSnow 6 жыл бұрын
Nick, this is by far my most favorite video that you have produced! Great job!
@peterwillstein198
@peterwillstein198 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Thumbs up! Fantastic locations and completely agree about as the word gets out, the damage from popularity can not be avoided. Peter
@SactownSoren
@SactownSoren 6 жыл бұрын
When’s the next time you are hosting this workshop again! Definitely trying to come! I love waterfalls!
@pics395
@pics395 5 жыл бұрын
Great vibe here, Nick. We’re extremely blessed to have such an amazing backyard here in the Pacific Northwest ... and I too have seen a dramatic influx of people everywhere. Most of my trips are now far off the beaten path as I have no desire to stand shoulder to shoulder with 20 other shooters to capture a location that’s been seen a thousand times. Great point. I believe photographers are indeed part of the problem because we are in a way ambassadors to such amazing places. Don’t share locations! I’m a firm believer that if somebody wants to know a specific place they will put in the legitimate effort to find it.
@NickGranville
@NickGranville 6 жыл бұрын
Great locations! People / photographers need to look after these spots, or they’ll be gone to us all. Thanks for raising this issue with your audience.
@bornforadventureie
@bornforadventureie 6 жыл бұрын
Stunning images as always Nick , great video 😁
@er11kj
@er11kj 6 жыл бұрын
Epic vlog and photos as always 👍
@cueball93
@cueball93 4 жыл бұрын
When I went to those waterfalls you were at in Summer 2018, I was the only person there when I was shooting. Was lucky!
@germanlabweiler
@germanlabweiler 6 жыл бұрын
Nick I hear you I also get extremly frustrated when I see what people do to the beautiful places we love here in the Northwest. I agree with you maybe its not a good idea to share your locations that you have worked so hard to find and share with your "Absolutely Amazing" photography..
@angelathomas2117
@angelathomas2117 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful photos I miss out on views like this as I have arthritis in my knees so cant get to places like this
@tysonator5433
@tysonator5433 6 жыл бұрын
Some amazing scenery and yes Nick is I would like to go there and take an amazing photo as well ! What is the music at 12:56 ?
@atharvadeo4556
@atharvadeo4556 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Stunning! - T-Heat
@jamesfulton7454
@jamesfulton7454 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick. A big fan of your work. I am planning on visiting the US in late May next year and plan to visit Portland. I love landscape photography and was hoping you could recommend some must do’s as I only have a few days. Was thinking Panther creek falls and spirit falls and possibly making it to Cape Kiwanda. What do you think? Thanks heaps.
@henryjackson2271
@henryjackson2271 6 жыл бұрын
I live not too far away from that waterfall and it’s sad to see people do that. It’s like we try to share the location to get people to appreciate these places but then they end up trashing the place or it leads to too much foot traffic. It’s the big question for us Photographers and I’m glad you brought it up. Great vid, love the shots
@TheNeffen
@TheNeffen 6 жыл бұрын
This just looks amazing Nick!=)
@likourg
@likourg 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@davidbodine6465
@davidbodine6465 5 жыл бұрын
That was a really good video by the way.
@tammymellertphoto
@tammymellertphoto 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. It is so sad to see all the destruction that is being done to such beautiful sites. You are right there is a whole new movement on not sharing locations due to this kind of stuff. I love the images you took and I think the church is my favorite.
@jtorrescr
@jtorrescr 6 жыл бұрын
2019 goal, workshop whit Nick 👌
@frankzhao8352
@frankzhao8352 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Nick. Amazing locations, photos, and content as always. Just listened to your latest podcast on destroying the things we love and completely agree. I used to live in Portland and have gone to some of these places. Sad to see that they are getting over trafficked. People that take the time to do the research are usually more respectful to nature and likely find the entire process more rewarding. Let the ones who are too lazy to do the work miss out.
@neilfausett6612
@neilfausett6612 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Nick I hear you and feel the same way as you, We have a similar problem in New Zealand, they have fenced off the "church of the good shepherd" at Lake Tekapo, Too many people in a small space. Similar at Lake Wanaka at "The Tree". Have to be assertive with tourists that walk in front of you :-( I don't divulge my spots any more, for that reason . Neil
@jenjen4658
@jenjen4658 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I have seen someone with photography equipment I always try to stay away and visit that area once they move on
@PMCN53
@PMCN53 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, Love the lates VLOG and the magnificent waterfall locations and especially the images you captured. I agree with you about the issue of too many people going to some beautiful locations and not taking care of the environment that has drawn them to it in the first place. I live in Australia and there are some beautiful locations such as ULURU in the Northern Territory that now have strict rules about where you can go and photograph this magnificent natural wonder, all due to the few who have abused the privilege. In New Zealand there are several locations that masses of tourists have easy access and are creating significant damage to the area. There is a location called the Church of the Good Shepherd on Lake Tekapo that has had chunks of stone chipped off the walls by very disrespectful tourists. Bus loads of tourists from Asia descend and trample on the grounds and make a general nuisance. This has prompted the local authorities to consider placing a fence around the church building. This will significantly detract for the beautiful location and images to be captured. Keeping a location secret is unfortunate for the many landscape photographers that would respect the place and appreciate the need to care for the surrounding location. Love your images Nick!
@Nivenization
@Nivenization 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@vargavideo
@vargavideo 6 жыл бұрын
Wow - nice work Everyone!
@cartmanbruh23
@cartmanbruh23 5 жыл бұрын
damn which waterfalls are these? so beautiful
@isaacm1570
@isaacm1570 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video! Makes me really wish I had places like that locally. In the desert there isn't much of any of that. Also could it be possible that, that burned wood came from a lightning strike?
@sander5086
@sander5086 6 жыл бұрын
You live in beautyful part of the world, we don't have anything like this in The Netherlands!!!
@helopicture
@helopicture 6 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky enough to live in the North West, but most of my photography now is in remote backcountry areas that are a 2 or more day hike into. I have NO desire to stand shoulder to shoulder with 10 other people fighting over a spot to shoot a subject that has been photographed thousands of times. Solitude is easily 50% of the reason that I'm outside with my camera.
@allansisson355
@allansisson355 6 жыл бұрын
Wow , just crazy
@mikehutchinson6567
@mikehutchinson6567 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick why were you so down on the video its excellent the locations are beautiful first class work.
@NickPage
@NickPage 6 жыл бұрын
Ehhh I just haven’t reach my goals in a while I guess. Thank you though!
@tomfoord8860
@tomfoord8860 6 жыл бұрын
Nick, I agree. Don’t be too hard on yourself. The video was top notch.
@cameronhanksphotography1801
@cameronhanksphotography1801 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing nick. Also what you said about geo tagging, really it makes complete sense, even if it drops the rate of human footprint by say 10% it’s still achieving something right?
@calebschmitt104
@calebschmitt104 6 жыл бұрын
Revisited this video because I went to panther today. It’s closed off going down, and they’re trying to make it so it is just like you said... viewpoint only.
@colmranger
@colmranger 6 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for sharing
@1969bigbox
@1969bigbox 6 жыл бұрын
Cracking Vlog as always Nick, wish I had all those waterfalls near me... By the way if you don't mind me asking what's the music you use in your Vlogs?
@jackdeangelis6585
@jackdeangelis6585 6 жыл бұрын
On the other hand ... without videos like this some people would not be able to see these beautiful places at all. Thanks. Just be careful to not get anybody hurt or do excessive damage to the sites. In terms of sharing locations, I appreciate the concerns but let's face it the "cat is already out of the bag". Google Maps and Google Earth make it very easy to track down a location from clues (even well hidden ones) in every video.
@jeo33466
@jeo33466 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny you talk about Panther Creek falls in a future tense way of it being closed off; I visited In October 2019 and there was a new trail and overlook and signs saying it's forbidden to leave the trail due to people dying there.
@NickPage
@NickPage 4 жыл бұрын
any time a place gets as much traffic as that waterfall, things will have to change. This video is a couple years old now, but back then people were already bringing their very young children down a fairly knarly trail... girls were having their boyfriends take selfies iphone photos of them standing on the log overhanging the falls.. it was a mess. So to accommodate the increase in traffic they built a new trail and a platform.. and for better or for worse, it is changed forever.
@slowlyrusting4044
@slowlyrusting4044 6 жыл бұрын
It is so easy to place the blame on a particular group (in this case photographers) and say, You are the reason something/anything is getting screwed up. The unfortunate reality is that human overpopulation ,worldwide, is causing us to stress out more and more in our daily lives. We end up seeking refuge from the growing stress. Often times the beauty of "Mother Nature" offers us the comfort we seek and need. Humans of ALL walks of life are looking to the outdoors to help them cope. The down side is that the outdoors, most definitely, suffers from our use. The answer : That's a tough one !!! In the meantime, enjoy the beauty of Mother Nature, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE YOUR TRASH WHEN YOU VISIT, in fact, pick up a piece that someone else has stupidly left behind, don't build fires just cause you can.Think before you do something. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
@MrFrankie1311
@MrFrankie1311 6 жыл бұрын
Great!
@mariamorales5642
@mariamorales5642 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr Page, how do we get in touch with you to join your workshop?
@noahlar
@noahlar 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe a clean-up/photo work shop for some of these more high traffic areas. Photos during the peak lighting hours, and trash clean up during the day.
@ragingrhino575
@ragingrhino575 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever taken pictures of the Milky Way over Palouse Falls?? If not then you should.
@Martya55
@Martya55 6 жыл бұрын
Looked like a good workshop and a good workout.Panther Creek is really depressing.The beautiful moss on the bottom of the falls turns to mud by the stampede of people.
@B.Christine_W222
@B.Christine_W222 6 жыл бұрын
Do you offer workshops for working people who can't take 7 days off from work? Any weekend workshops?
@NickPage
@NickPage 6 жыл бұрын
This was a Friday thru Monday workshop
@gui4j
@gui4j 6 жыл бұрын
well said Nick , respect the environment and nature first ... take only pictures , leave only footprints, kill only time , ps some great shots by everyone :)
@BenKapurPhotography
@BenKapurPhotography 6 жыл бұрын
Nick what drone are you using? There’s some stunning shots there mate! Lovely slow mo!!
@NickPage
@NickPage 6 жыл бұрын
Magic air
@BenKapurPhotography
@BenKapurPhotography 6 жыл бұрын
Pleased you said that, as I have just bought one myself! Amazing little thing isn't it! :)
@pmfdeoliveira
@pmfdeoliveira 6 жыл бұрын
Does anybody knows what soundtrack Nick uses for his videos?? Thank you!
@NickPage
@NickPage 6 жыл бұрын
Pump it up by gyom
@perfectlylonely
@perfectlylonely 6 жыл бұрын
5 years ago I slipped on that narrow, downhill, trail to PC-Falls. Reaching out, to steady myself, I broke my finger. I was looking forward to a return trip. So sad to see the mess there now. When I'm photographing, at popular spots, I carry a garbage bag and pick-up the crap that has been left behind. This does "Suck"
@AndrewDawes
@AndrewDawes 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Nick. I strongly agree with you that the more and more places and destinations become popular, the more it requires regulation to keep people's influence minimal. Burning trees, rubbish, trampling plants is totally unnecessary and will eventually ruin access and areas for all. Looks like a good tour and group too.
@antont7357
@antont7357 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Horne mentioned secrecy of locations in his latest video. I think it deserves consideration for sure.
@boburrides
@boburrides 6 жыл бұрын
that Thomas Heaton tho :D :D
@oneeyedphotographer
@oneeyedphotographer 6 жыл бұрын
Our bush is different, it's evolved to survive and become dependent on fire. Karri seeds germinate in the ash of fires, many plants require fire or smoke to germinate. We have pine (Pinus radiata) forests, fire kills them while the native trees alongside resprout and grow on. We have orchids, they are more prolific in the years following a fire.
@jonramsey8296
@jonramsey8296 6 жыл бұрын
Out East we have a lot of waterfalls that go over shale, which is a huge chalkboard for graffiti. Unfortunately a good number have been fenced off in my lifetime..I think we as photographers also need to emphasize to only leave footprints, if it stops at least one from leaving trash maybe more could follow 🤷🏻‍♂️ If you have spare room in your bag bring a small bag to pick up the metal/plastic along the way, let’s start a movement ☺️
@davidbailey1005
@davidbailey1005 6 жыл бұрын
Fab
@williamdesevo2089
@williamdesevo2089 6 жыл бұрын
You are getting some international attention with the likes of Gary Gough and Mads Peter Iverson who have excellent KZbin channels like yours. I have mixed feelings on the location sharing issue. Part of me understands the concern of overuse (all you have to do is go to Yosemite, Yellowstone, Zion, et al in the summer) but on the other hand there is this idea of sharing within this community. It is a conundrum for sure. By the way, great pictures at the end as usual.
@toddcanterino3376
@toddcanterino3376 6 жыл бұрын
LNT is easy to talk about but harder to practice. Especially when groups are involved.
@shawnpatapoff5846
@shawnpatapoff5846 6 жыл бұрын
I have to say I agree about not sharing location information. Though I totally benefit from other people sharing, I would rather things were preserved as much as possible, even if I have to figure it out myself. Hunting for a location is almost as rewarding as taking the pictures anyways.
@tobiasyoder
@tobiasyoder 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like John Greens video about the broccoli tree really applies to what you are talking about in a video. While it is true that if a beautiful spot is photographed, many people will see it and it may eventually get destroyed, if no one saw it the first place then the beauty would be a waste. I totally agree with you though. here a link to his vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4Tce6KmaJaWo7s
@johnmehalick
@johnmehalick 6 жыл бұрын
You need not to share the location. The video and picture are just fine with me.
@Jbird1189
@Jbird1189 6 жыл бұрын
Good video again nick!! I think I'am going to do the same and start to not share my locations as well. I live about 15 mins outside of Sedona,Az And it's just unbelievable how bad the place is starting to get torn up by tourist. I found scratched in lettering on redrocks about a week ago near bell rock saying "Taylor was here" , Mike loves jenna.. stupid shicken basically on incredible rock formations formed thousands of years ago as well as trash on the trail, the dying molding prickly pears I see all the time. It's really depressing. So long story short I'm gonna do the same thing no more letting sh#t birds know where the locations are I went to get the shot. 👌🤘
@PereaPhotography
@PereaPhotography 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Strickland I agree Sedona has gotten so bad. 15 years ago I was the only one at devils bridge on a Sunday. Now I wouldn’t go there if I was paid.
@brianhayes7415
@brianhayes7415 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and shots! I totally agree with your summation of just keeping the locations to yourself. My wife and I just watched Ben Horne's video addressing this very topic, you should check it out.
@wickedsensationphotography
@wickedsensationphotography 6 жыл бұрын
The other challenge is when you don't post the location and someone else trying to be 'helpful' posts the location, I do delete those comments from my own thread. I adapted the no location for my photos regardless of how many others post it.
@jmlr2011
@jmlr2011 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, love your work and this video which seems to have stirred up so much controversy. I'm one who believes that people are responsible for their own actions and the idiots who can't seem to not leave the areas in the same condition as they arrived are the problem. Society (and some here by their comments)seems to have taken the position that's its your fault and others like you who have You Tube channels for the actions of others. Seems to me we should be shamming those that destroy nature and not those who photograph its beauty. Having said that maybe its a good idea if we as photographers and outdoorsman not give the locations out we find if you feel it will help to keep the slobs away. As for your workshops, I see nothing wrong at all with you and others like you who want to share your knowledge with other photographers who want to improve their skills and share the wonder of those areas. Best of luck to you and I for one will keep watching and enjoying your work Nick. Joe M
@Studmn
@Studmn 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Nick, just a bit if he believes he is part of the problem, I was told at a young age, if you pack in 5 items try to pack out 6!! But on the other hand, awareness also brings to light more responsibility!
@johnsholian4318
@johnsholian4318 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Nick. I'm afraid you are part of the problem as are the rest of the population that visit these locations in that erosion is going to happen with so much traffic. However, you are also part of the solution in some way as well when you bring it to the attention of your viewers that we need to tread lightly, stick to the trails, pack out what you pack in and pick up after the inconsiderate a-holes that think nothing of tossing their trash on the ground. As others have mentioned, Ben Horne brought this subject up in his latest video about not disclosing locations and I'm quite alright with it. As a whole, I think photgraphers are a pretty mindful bunch and as such will respect the landscape that they so enjoy photographing but reminders from respected pros can't hurt. Continue to lead by example.
@barryashenhurst2071
@barryashenhurst2071 4 жыл бұрын
I know the thing about too many people, Nick. Even in Tasmania I've seen VB cans in the rain forest. Who the hell takes beer into a rain forest?
@balancedaudio
@balancedaudio 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video Nick. There are some lovely people in this world, but I must admit the general public often shock me with this sheep like mentality. We can be at a very popular location and people seem so inconsiderate of each other, it’s no wonder they aren’t respectful of nature around them. I think the further out you go the better, I find on lesser known or more difficult hikes people are always more friendly. I suspect they are more relaxed as they don’t have the pressure of making it back for X factor! Sheeple I believe the term is.
@weschilton
@weschilton 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stop advertising where you are. Please.
@dougedwards7570
@dougedwards7570 6 жыл бұрын
great video and I agree 100% --- more people - more trash - more damage -- It is such a shame that we have to keep beautiful places a secret because so many people are assholes !! keep up the great work
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