Screaming Six Pack on Dyno - 1969 Super Bee 440

[@2264ish]

I have to say the person who does the filming and editing does a great job.

[@nativenation3296]

Yeah eh ... I've always noticed that, cheers to him.

[@ghostrider.13]

George is his name. He produces the show very well. Serious production value!

[@joehintz3900]

MoPars in our family from as far back as my own grandpa who worked at the Chrysler garage in Mandan, N.D., and I still love them, along with Ford!!!!! They were ahead of their time with the old "slush pump"(aka fluid drive) manual/automatic trans... Awesome stuff those MoPars!!!

[@johnholm4335]

My first new car was a 1969 Super Bee, but it only had the 383 335 Hp. Drove it for 10 years. Wish I still had it. It was always nice to see the 150 MPH speedo pegged. I live in Kansas, plenty of roads back then with no traffic on them to try it out

[@johnnyzonta5173]

Nick's Garage, not only a shop...but educational and always new things to see and learn........

[@KillSwitchNY]

I love how excited the son is. The father seems overwhelmed but the son looks so happy for him. Awesome to see the passion passed down another generation. Good luck with that sweet 440!

[@thunderheads4103]

I imagine that my reaction will be the same when i get my stroked out 360 to 410 cu inches fired up with my dad. He had it rebuilt and then work done to it almost 20 yesrs ago and i don't remember what it sounded like. Engines, Fathers and Son's are what this world needs more of

[@briangarland9883]

Yup, gotta say got a little twinge listening to that thing making power... takes me back to simpler days with my dad...

[@lindanelson8400]

There's nothing like the sound of a 440 to get you going in the morning.

[@lindanelson8400]

Amen to that!

[@SolamenteVees]

You know it’s from a ‘69 A12 car when you see “Edelbrock” cast into the intake manifold.

[@robertbarone2306]

The man loves what he does for living

[@aarmancuda3570]

its obvious he has a deep passion for what he does.. it reflects in his builds...

[@RB-er6gu]

Money!🤑

[@gofat]

In Australia, we had a different 6 pack. 265 HEMI 6 cylinder with triple Weber’s, it made a unique induction noise. It was fitted in some Valiant R/T Charger models.

[@kindbluey]

It made 302 Bhp. The E49 was the fastest car made in Australia back then.

[@gofat]

I would love to see one on Nick’s dyno

[@grantw.whitwam9948]

I just read that article in Hemmings Muscle Machines. that was a wicked looking engine with the carbs on the side.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

@@kindbluey 302 was the official figures. Race prepped with bigger chokes in the carbs was 20-30 more but lost a little bottom end. These days with modern pistons and rings even more

[@Mercmad]

My mother bought a purple E38 New...

[@robertjohnson4784]

Awesome video Father and Son seeing their engine run for the first time after 30 years in storage. Also with your knowledge of tuning a six-pack which is no joke especially with the Progressive linkage engine ran awesome you're the man Nick two thumbs up

[@nativenation3296]

Seeing and hearing the story about this made me smile.

[@chrisbenard7509]

the son's shorts suck!

[@chadhaire1711]

And after all that money they have an engine cranking 350 SAE NET horsepower when in the car, compared to a 2019 5.7 cranking more at 375 SAE NET. Big deal

[@roryk.3568]

No sugar coating here, you tell it like it is. Always a pleasure...

[@samiam5557]

Nick's Garage does it again! Fantastic video.

[@70stunes71]

The stock 440+6 was/is a really great factory combination for any chrysler division auto. With some minor changes, capable of really decent HP increases with headers, port work in the heads, better octane fuel & advancing the distributor with high octane fuel. My six pack cars were incredible back in the 70s. It never took much money to make 75 HP over stock . Love watching these videos !!!!

[@MC-gp9ke]

440 6 pack on dyno: My best quess for horsepower increase by removal of heat riser manifold and exhaust manifold porting; 1. Heat Riser Manifold removal @ 5600 rpm..conservative 4-8 horsepower gain. 2. Porting Exhaust Manifold ( depending on how much porting removal is required) 5-10 horsepower gain. Best estimation; 9-18 horsepower gain. Headers would also increase your horsepower. I look forward to seeing the test. Thanks to owner of 440 6 pack and of course Nick and the rest of Nicks Garage. Cheers from Edmonton Alberta Canada.

[@alexgolovchenko3791]

I agree whole heartedly with your assertion/analysis. The numbers you cited are sound. Nick is the Real Deal and surrounds himself with great people, I just love watching the channel. Alex G🤓

[@MC-gp9ke]

Alex, thank you for comment. I concure with your anaylise. I also enjoy all of Nicks video and expertise that he shares with us all. I hope that we are correct, and look forward to the up and coming video in the dyno room. Until then Alex, have a great week and good fortune is yours!

[@xr7coug]

I think about the same but heat riser no more than 5HP unless the manifold ports are not already blocked off. If they are open, removing the heat riser might reduce the intake manifold temperature a bit and then I'd say 10HP.

[@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus]

I'd go along with this assessment, not much gain from losing the flapper valve.

[@nickpanaritis4122]

M.C. We gained about 12 HP when we finished.

[@williephillips925]

Sweet video Mr Nick thanks for sharing your projects with me.

[@bennyjones1597]

This is Benny with you your friend from Detroit I loved the six pack vidio wow how cool your work is the best love it bro keep up the great work nick your the best your friend benny from Detroit

[@nickpanaritis4122]

Benny. Almost have the Kowalski Challenger done. Still waiting on a few pieces to finish.

[@ericball6000]

Dr, Nick,that is one sweet 440-6 pack,I am going to say that you will get 17 more horse power,on the next dyno pull,can not wait.

[@rongade6912]

Awesome 440 six pack thanks for the video

[@79tazman]

I'm a sucker for the Super Bee's since I was a kid I have been in love with the 1970 Super bee

[@0004612]

Me too. My first car was a ‘70 Super Bee at 17 years old in 1987. I miss that one the most.

[@scottquasebarth677]

Nick, always great to watch you, You bring joy, make music V8 style,and share your passion of your work. Thank you.

[@snoozinglion8596]

Cool episode! Thanks Nick ;)

[@philipnelson9165]

NICK!!{THESE OPENING SECONDS >> "OUT OF BODY" EXPERIENCE!!)1350 cfm FLOPPIN OPEN'-ROARIN'-RAGIN' MAD! you live a blessed life my friend~ THANK YOU for SHARING IT WITH US

[@Smellyfish]

This year I imported to Australia, a 70 Charger with a 1969 440 6 pack engine 727 auto. Love these engines. This was an especially good episode for me to watch.

[@SuperJoes70]

Thank You for Sharing your knoledge is priceless Nick

[@raymondstrom7686]

Just love the sound of big-block Mopar. From a Chevy guy. :-)

[@ttrack9089]

Three two barrels, The sweetest sounding set up on gods green earth. A car with a set up like this coming at you with a tight exhaust system and the sound of those carbs drafting is a sound like no other!

[@shawnewaltonify]

Great example of the younger generation learning their turn in the car conversation. Jay Leno is working on this same challenge on his show when he invites younger technically minded guests and when he helps them understand the ways of car guys. Super job by everyone involved. This is what it is all about. One day he will be doing the same for up-and-comers!

[@ttrack9089]

Awesome intro to this weeks presentation...Best on the web! Thank you!

[@garymckee8857]

It's good to watch a master at his craft. Thanks Nick.

[@ervingoertzen7233]

I really like six packs ! Awesome engine to watch it running on a dyno !

[@NicksGarage]

Thanks for being here,Ervin.

[@79tazman]

Me too they got good gas mileage if you cruising around town and if you want to get on it the good gas mileage goes right away and it becomes Hammer Time :)

[@gerrylefebvre9209]

Bon matin, Thanks for the treat this morning, a 6 pack, I was always impress when à was a kid to see a mechanic adjust the 3 carbs.

[@NicksGarage]

Merci Gerry.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Well just like desert, I’m saving this till I’m finished work.

[@NicksGarage]

We’ll be here. 🕔

[@robertorhymes]

Nick's back with a six pack but first the host with the most needs some French toast. This 440 has a naughty rumble If I was the owner I wouldn't grumble At the Dyno controls Nick don't falter or fumble Checking for leaks rattles n squeaks Then back to the console to see where power peaks Nick and the crew know all the best tweaks Nick's Garage can't wait for next weeks!

[@NicksGarage]

Bravo Roberto! Another work of word art. The Shakespeare of Nick’s Garage.

[@robertorhymes]

@@NicksGarage ;)

[@acts2211]

If My classic muscle car motor is going to have a problem can't think of a better place to have a problem than in Nick's garage

[@gplipp6489]

Great story in this video!!! Thanks Nick!

[@90tazscooter62]

love the old school tunning on the old school motors you and your brother are the bomb

[@otisbailey5455]

Really enjoy the dyno sessions.

[@spooler7828]

This was fun. Can't wait for the little changes to see what happens.

[@WireWeHere]

At 6:22 one bite of a free range dyno room bug sent the offspring as far away as possible without leaving the scene. An excellent display of how caution preceeds self preservation. His body is just learning how to lean the epinephrine injectors down to 14.7 to 1. And the real fun hasn't started yet.

[@nativenation3296]

Awesome story about the engine and owner, well Nick is the man to make it run perfect or better than factory. Great show.

[@AuMechanic]

Yeah noticed that stumble (misfire) up top you could see it shake a bit. Nick mentioned possible crack re the water from ex manifold, hope the stumble its not water related, as in the crack across exhaust and inlet ports on one pot opening a bit more at peak revs sending a splash of water through the pot causing it to stumble a bit. i say that because IME stumbles like that are more often at the lower end under WOT than up top. A look at the plugs might be in order to see if one has some irregularity due to water. Fingers crossed its not that.

[@alexgolovchenko3791]

Those two symptoms may very well be related. You might be right. My feeling, initially, was a distributor issue as the flutter/vibration seemed to improve with an advance in timing. I love this stuff! Alex G. 🤓

[@jonutley5357]

Let's just hope they didnt put sealent on those head bolts

[@johnkufeldt3564]

6bbl holley and cafe, best monday breakfast here in Calgary. Thanks Nick. 430 hp after heatriser out. we will know soon

[@NicksGarage]

Enjoy your breakfast in Calgary.

[@johnkufeldt3564]

@@NicksGarage maybe french toast and maple syrup

[@charger19691]

I say the heat riser mods and exhaust manifold mods give this engine 12 more horsepower. Nick and his crew build beautiful engines. I really enjoy watching these old power plants roar back to life! Salute to Nick and his crew!

[@jfk64kennedy95]

the exhaust heater runners in the intake were notorious for getting carbon packed and failing

[@doug112244]

I remember laying on my back one good winter day under a '66 Coronet cutting that plate out with a hacksaw blade because it had rusted in the shut position. That was on a 318.

[@shortchange26]

Now that you mention it as a teenage apprentice back in the 70s yours truly was given the task of picking and chipping that carbon out many a B Molars.

[@socomcygnusx1]

I liked it when the carbon clogged up that sh*t

[@sparkywirenut]

@@doug112244 I also had a 66 , big block 318 , good engines !

[@doug112244]

@SuperDave Miorgan no I know exactly what he is talking about. On an LA block Mopar there is a butterfly valve on the passenger side in the exhaust manifold that's controlled by a bimetal thermostat. Given enough age and some salt water they would rust into position usually closed. That made the engine run very poorly especially if the cross over port in the intake manifold was partially plugged. The quickest cure for it was to get rid of it by sawing it out. The right fix was likely to remove the intake manifold and clean the runner out, take the exhaust manifold off and get the valve there to work which I suspect required replacement. Oh and likely break a stud that help the manifold on which became its own nightmare. That means likely tying the car up for several days and if you ran into another problem that required parts you didn't have and couldn't farmer engineer then you where hitch hiking a 50 mile round trip. Also that also meant that you either went from eating peanut butter sandwiches to eating peanut butter wish sandwiches or going from burning slabs for firewood to scrounging limbs side of the road.

[@nosnerd1967]

OUTSTANDING camera work

[@gerrypylant6921]

Uncle nic my dad is watching ur videos right now im tellin ya all day every day he loves the hemis hes a engine builder to well was

[@niceguy2171]

Love the 6 packs, but wish he would go to electronic ignition distributor and headers, as that was so common in those vehicles that it was rarer to see someone who didn't. Know that I helped bolt them on(headers) of a 440 GTX and a Road Runner too. The GTX went smooth as they fit right in, but the Road Runner was a pain, as they were a cheaper set and didn't fit well without some custom bending and tweaking. Man some good times were had in those vehicles.

[@leeturner1838]

nicks thanks for explaining how that heat door opens on the exhaught, i alwalys wondered!!!!!!

[@rickhardorff7938]

Another great pull on the dyno with a badass wedge 6pk!!! Great video and best wishes!!! BeepBeep

[@ghostrider.13]

Oh man....you made my night. Let me settle in here. My favorite show on youtube is on!!!!! Awesome show Nick. Great episode! Cool to see an engine that sat that long run so well. He did good turning it over from time to time. And cool to see that six pack set up run. You guys got right into. Wow. Worth the wait to see how the difference is when you re-test. Always fun here...

[@georgeloyie7456]

I'm not well off, broke my back in 2003 and life has not been the same ever since. It's the shits because my life was quite exciting and fulfilling like yours, building up old cars and trucks, fine tuning and doing it mostly by myself to keep costs down for my customers. I'd spend 100s of hours in my little shop to get the very most out of an engine while keeping in mind that they're daily drivers. Anyways, when the engine owner was asking you about the exhaust manifolds, and if more power could be gained by port work, it made me smile and brought back fond memories of better times and it really piqued my interest because I do know a fair bit about intake and exhaust ports and gasket matching the head's exhaust ports to the exhaust manifold ports and cleaning up the excess casting flash that the factory wouldn't do will give you more horsepower. It wasn't rocket science, I'd just use the one piece Mr Gasket exhaust manifold gasket, scribe both the heads and the exhaust manifolds, clean them all up with a few different die grinders and each time it made a positive difference. Thank you for posting your videos, I watch them a lot and I'll keep watching them, you guys are great!

[@NicksGarage]

Thank you for your kind comment and thanks for watching.

[@79tazman]

Dodge was 6 Pack and Plymouth was 6 Barrel it was called the A12 option that came out Mid 1969 that used 3 holly 2 bbl 2300 carbs on a aluminum Edelbrock Intake the main center carb was a 350cfm carb and the two ends were both 500cfm. Edelbrock intakes were only used for 69 only in 70 Chrysler made their own 6 pack intake out of cast Iron.

[@nickpanaritis4122]

79t. But the 1970 Superbirds came with the aluminum intake.

[@jeffreyrubish347]

Monday morning, V8 screaming on dyno, all is right with the world. 🙂

[@thomasfroberg1294]

Jeffrey Rubish only during the time that this engine runs an it’s amazing history for today! For the world is doomed

[@jeffreyrubish347]

@@thomasfroberg1294 Perhaps, but if it is doomed worrying won't help 😏

[@gk10002000]

Better than the smell of napalm in the morning

[@johnkufeldt3564]

Love Mondays , now that I can get up early and watch the latest vid from Nick

[@generalsixty2133]

I love them all from this era , but nothing beats the look of a bone stock 440 six pack with the big air cleaner.

[@michaelmartinez1345]

Awesome episode!!! The 440 6-pack produces!!!

[@troublemaker4279]

Was there a follow up to this video? I am curious what the exhaust manifold work did.

[@RB-er6gu]

I love Nicks videos he explains everything in great detail love it

[@davidcollis4758]

That engine is beautiful!

[@PeterSmith-or3pq]

A couple more now. Yes the rings

[@danielpost9919]

Coffee and six pack for my breakfast! Thanks Nick for another awesome video! Mopar o no car!!

[@jdez10]

Another great video. Even the French toast looked delicious. The camera work in the beginning was awesome. Glad I subscribed

[@detroitredwing919]

You're a wizard Nick , Please keep passing on the knowledge Thank-you💪👍👌✌Much love from the "D"

[@NicksGarage]

Thanks for watching in Motor City.

[@vandalsr1959]

I love your videos look forward to them

[@grumpyg9350]

Are you going to make a part 2 video of the engine, after the exhaust porting and manifold stud leak/cracked head issue? Thanks Scott

[@youcoulduseit7492]

Beautiful engine build. little or no change in hp is my guess. would give up my coffe on monday morning to watch nick's garage.luckily i dont have to thanks nick and build a buick 455 sometime thats one engine i would love to watch you test/tune

[@nickpanaritis4122]

you. Coming up soon in early winter.

[@youcoulduseit7492]

ya hey good, that intake on those looks like it's a major part of the structure with those huge intake bolts I'd be scared to put an aluminum manifold on one of those cause that manifold looks like its backbone and try stock exaust manifolds and intake if you can I'm making pressure test "plugs" to pressure test one of those engines i have right now never saw it run and am worried cause well i have to sell it its a 71 or 72 it has both codes but more dated 72 the valve guides look like 60-70 thousand miles just hate to sell that would love to put it in an 80's G body turbo 400 and a 9 inch just love your show nick its the highlite of my monday morning-

[@curly239]

Another great video! Thanks Nick!!

[@MrNezzy7]

The production quality on this is tv like well done

[@robertevans6481]

15hp and with the other work Nick is going to do,440 total hp easily...and a a lower rpm....have a great week Nick and crew

[@NicksGarage]

Thanks Robert.

[@paulkirkland1535]

My thoughts exactly. I feel with the heat riser out and a little bit more tinkering I wouldn't be surprised to see 450hp or more. Remember it's not only about hp but also torque. You want to be the "torque of the town", that's what really counts and wins races. Have a gr8 God blessed day Nick and your team.

[@kindbluey]

That's a nice engine. I love the sound of the idle & full revs also. :)

[@thomascowart2634]

Nick I've have seen heat risers over time freeze up in the closed position.

[@79tazman]

If you don't maintained them they will freeze up it another reason many took it off but if you oiled it like they say to do they will not freeze up

[@robertoruiz7069]

Hi,I believe the reason they seize in the closed position is,Condensation accumulates on the shaft as the engine cools down athen begins to rust ,at that time the flap is closed... if the spring is working.When the engine is hot it evaporates the moisture allowing the shaft to move. Oil is very important.Although now i wonder what would happen if you made your own shaft out of stainless steel ???it's probably a normal size shaft ,like 1/4 ,5/16 dia. material.Or you could drill the hole in the manifold to match the shaft.? just and old time hot rodder.

[@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper]

Thanks for sharing Nick.

[@paveldalesssandro6920]

O good he back I was get mopar sick dont go away for to long lol

[@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860]

I love seeing a six pack in action.

[@greggfridline4260]

When you go through the front of the building it looks like a small shop, then when you get in it explodes into this huge place. Pretty cool.

[@tomkimbrel4192]

What a great way to start the day, breakfast with the crew 😉😀😃!

[@danohstoolbox]

The sweet sounds of music to my ears

[@peteloomis8456]

Yeah more Dyno time more please !

[@alouiciousjackson5812]

I wish there was a follow up video...

[@miked.5287]

Mornin nick..another great episode.. .have great day!

[@68mustangmustang77]

Yep this was enjoyable. Would love to see a set of headers on this one . If it's being jamed in it's got to get out. Sounds like a reasonable cam as well. This was fun to watch. 👍

[@Oscarphone]

What a beast. On the close ups of the carbs on each pull, am I seeing a bit of reversion in that back carb?

[@gerald4027]

The engine was running in reverse.

[@gerald4027]

@@johnlockesghost5592.bad cam timing could cause that.

[@49walker44]

Too bad he didn't speak to that, maybe couldn't see it.

[@avman1339]

@@johnlockesghost5592 I saw both of those anomalies too.

[@pjeffries301]

@@johnlockesghost5592 Agreed. Six packs are tricky, they never liked me much. Prefer the two - 4 barrel set up. Something is up, thinking cam or airflow through the heads. Great street motor.

[@duncandonovan5270]

Another great video sir. 👍 That door is great but if it robs hp it has to go 🤟

[@jimjungle1397]

The 440 Six Pack is one of my favorite engines. Measured at Holley's two barrel vacuum specs the carbs are rated at, 350 cfm for the center carb and the two outboard carbs are rated at 500 cfm each, which would a total of 1350 cfm, but measured at Holley's four barrel vacuum specs, to compare the carbs to one four barrel carb, the total for the three carbs together is around 950 cfm, which is still a lot for the engine.

[@acts2211]

I hope we get to see a follow-up after two exhaust ports are ported and the flap is removed I'll be getting 20 to 30 horsepower I'm guessing

[@nickpanaritis4122]

act. We gained an average of 12 HP with mild porting and welding the valve straight open.

[@acts2211]

@@nickpanaritis4122 I'm surprised it wasn't a little more but obviously a switching over to headers would help a great deal to get a boost in power but I understand he wants to keep it stock appearing so I respect that like you said anything over 400 horsepower in a streetcar is very respectable

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Super car stuff...Asusual...Thanks muchey...!

[@ToxicMisfitsYt]

Badass nick mopar or no car. Wish I had the money to have nick build me a engine. This thing runs way better then the junk they put in cars nowadays

[@1112223333111]

6:19 it sounds mint! best yet, real smooth

[@blinkie1523]

Just choice aye, what else can one say! Nick I'm sure you will get it sorted by next viewing and what will be will be! Thanks for another awesome video guys.

[@alexgolovchenko3791]

Hi Nick! That was really cool. That little flutter/vibration seemed to get better after you advanced the timing. This tells me there may be a minor distributor issue ie. rotor, points or advance weight. Maybe the centrifugal pivots are sticking? That was fun! Thanks for letting me put down my two cents. 🤓

[@thisguysgarage]

Would be a good test with headers compared to manifolds and ported manifolds... As always awesome production

[@matrox]

He ain't heard it run in 30 years.😪😫😥😭

[@jerimahjohnson8698]

I have an a12 car and the sound of the six pack in action is fantastic

[@NightMoves1969]

That cam sounds a little bit hotter than stock. Hehehe. Nice though. Hemi power from the more street friendly 440.

[@nickpanaritis4122]

Alex. You are correct. It is not a stock cam. No power brakes on this car.

[@hugieflhr03]

It seems like a few intake valves are too tight, you can see the reversion in the carb flow until it reaches higher rpm but it’s an awesome set up!

[@moparedtn]

VIDEO DUDE!: Awesome opening as usual, sir. Your work never disappoints. :-) Ok Nick, predictions eh? Here's mine: 1. The leak is indeed an exhaust stud - first thing that came to my mind when I saw it was that and I'll stick with that guess. 2. Port matching the exhaust manifolds won't be worth much, but combined with removing the heat riser, together that will gain 12hp total overall. Over to Patreon I go. See ya there! -Ed on the Ridge

[@gregk2043]

I did exactly that on a 440 in my car, then it was a 71 charger. I took out the heat riser. Tact with a welder and the dyno we used barely a change,, maybe 11 12 horses.

[@paulcopeland9035]

greg.....11,12 horses is "barely a change" ???

[@chadhaire1711]

The real horsepower of a 440-6 is 325 SAE NET....50 less than a 2019 5.7 at 375 SAE NET....

[@gregk2043]

@@paulcopeland9035 atleast with our testing of my 440/6 We thought or rather hoped it would have been more,, but u ar right,, hopefully it was an accuate reading or the tester just pasified my silly mind at the time for the increase. LOL. SORRY But boy did we have fun with those cars,, we were kids, teenies, or young adults... dime a dozen back then,, boy were we wrong for not saving those models and parts.

[@paulcopeland9035]

@@gregk2043 ...."boy we were wrong for not saving those models and parts" ! Yes we were. I was right there with you....

[@willefixit]

good morning nic love the 6pac got one on my 440 4spd 69.5 roadrunner a12 car

[@NicksGarage]

Good morning Mr Fixit.

[@willefixit]

no need to be so formal wille fine not mr. fixit makes me feel old. lol.

[@gfd635]

Excellent! Can hardly wait for the heat riser comparison! Thanks Nick.

[@nickpanaritis4122]

Gayland. We welded the heat riser valve straight open and did some mild porting and gained 12 HP.

[@lateefcarrere1649]

I'm beginning to suspect that Nick's the guy I should've taken my Cordoba to all those years ago, after I bought & resurrected her. That would've been an epic roadtrip.