Nietzsche: Embrace Elitism, Reject Equality

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@gustavoeliasmorales77
@gustavoeliasmorales77 2 ай бұрын
So true even Beethoven example was spot on. Striving for greatness requires a competitive edge.
@temanangka3820
@temanangka3820 2 ай бұрын
Just because Nietzsche said that, doesn't mean it is true and must be followed strictly. Nietzsche's philosophy is an unfinished project. Beyond personal self-overcoming and individual greatness lies the idea of collective greatness-a great nation, a great community, and, ultimately, a great species. This expands Nietzsche's vision, keeping its essence but broadening its scope.
@dadbot4359
@dadbot4359 2 ай бұрын
All I thought about was hitler, Germany and the nazi's attemp at that 😭😭
@temanangka3820
@temanangka3820 2 ай бұрын
@@dadbot4359 keep expanding the scope of Nietzsche's individualism. You will arrive in humanity, even the love to other living species.
@agetss358
@agetss358 2 ай бұрын
​@@temanangka3820 and you dilute and destroy Nietzsche's fundamental idea for your own beliefs.
@temanangka3820
@temanangka3820 2 ай бұрын
@@agetss358 Yes. I am an Ubermensh that create my own philosophy. Nietzche is just a door that open up the world.
@agetss358
@agetss358 2 ай бұрын
@@temanangka3820 When someone says that 'there is no absolute path', would you, in the pretense of following their values in entirety, say that 'there is an absolute path' as a value your own path endorses? Why do you people, who clearly haven't read much of serious intellectual works think that you can just say any stupid thing on the internet and appear 'smart'? Well, you appear dumb. Don't contaminate the comment section of this beautiful channel.
@NOLMTS777
@NOLMTS777 2 ай бұрын
why settle for mediocrity when you can achieve greatness?
@SuperAlphaKirby
@SuperAlphaKirby 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes the cost of greatness isn't worth paying for. I wanna spend time with the people I love.
@TAiCkIne-TOrESIve
@TAiCkIne-TOrESIve 2 ай бұрын
It's out of your control really. I thought Brian Leiter had made it quite clear that you can't just "will" greatness. You can only "happen to" find yourself great. If you do find yourself in greatness someday, Nietzsche suggests that you embrace it with zest and without a shred of doubt lest guilt. When we find someone else in greatness, Nietzsche also suggests that we glorify their greatness instead of pulling them down.
@Odihmantich
@Odihmantich 2 ай бұрын
I’m the greatest mediocre guy!
@SuperAlphaKirby
@SuperAlphaKirby 2 ай бұрын
@@Odihmantich the rules obey u.
@NOLMTS777
@NOLMTS777 2 ай бұрын
@@TAiCkIne-TOrESIve I agree, we should glorify their greatness instead of hating them because hating something will make you distant from it. Hating only makes you a loser, winners don't hate. I hate to settle for mediocrity because winning is great; hating isn't.
@Decocoa
@Decocoa 2 ай бұрын
The principal component, the foundation of why the arts flourished during the golden age of greece and renaissance Italy wasn’t le epic malthusian machiaveli power fuck struggle of the great man. Master Morality doesn’t exist in a vacuum-it’s not just the mamba mentality all the way down. The taste and drive for the beautiful, and therefore the excellent in mind and body, is actually deeply contemplative. Ian Mcghrist can explain this much better than I.
@petarmaric4417
@petarmaric4417 2 ай бұрын
I'm all for creative genius and greatness, but there's more to what Christians did that just raw drive for achieving great art with no end goal. That is why those pieces of art represent so much, they have a certain goal they strive (and clearly manage) to achieve, and without that they are meaningless, no matter how much they sacrifice for it. So yeah, I agree that there is no reason why we should maintain egalitarianism, but I highly doubt it that that is what Christians are trying to do. The goal of Christianity is that everyone rises to the standard that God intended for them, not that we all stay equally indifferent and ungreat. But that means neither that when someone achieves that intended greatness that they are God themselves nor that they rejected God.
@mathiusq9128
@mathiusq9128 2 ай бұрын
Dude called beethoven an asshole
@Scilo14
@Scilo14 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lothar3610
@lothar3610 Ай бұрын
Beethoven was asshole, Mozart dickhead, Chopin bastard. 😂
@conlawmeateater8792
@conlawmeateater8792 Ай бұрын
There's context.
@GigaCrafty
@GigaCrafty Ай бұрын
This video is absolute fire🔥👑
@HulaMask
@HulaMask 2 ай бұрын
You have the wisdom of someone well beyond your years as well as your articulation ! Listening to you is like listening to to a symphony of knowledge
@virileagitur7403
@virileagitur7403 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading these lectures!
@sweetaznspice1
@sweetaznspice1 2 ай бұрын
Not just Beethovan but Bach, Handel and other great composers were fiercely competitive as hell.
@NightsideOfParadise
@NightsideOfParadise 2 ай бұрын
Equality is real only in the realm of morality.
@Iamhimbutyouarenot
@Iamhimbutyouarenot 2 ай бұрын
Is it though?
@cjyoung1634
@cjyoung1634 2 ай бұрын
@@NightsideOfParadise what can you provide as an example of natural equality?
@piotrwisniewski70
@piotrwisniewski70 2 ай бұрын
​@@cjyoung1634death
@NightsideOfParadise
@NightsideOfParadise 2 ай бұрын
@@Iamhimbutyouarenot it is. People are different. That means in any level of analysis the pieces won't fall equally. One of the weirdest things about modern western culture is simultaneous celebration of diversity (which in itself is a little mystery to me) and promoting idea that people are on the same level. Just because some french philosopher mathematician 250 years ago looked at his colleague in England and said to himself "we are egual" doesn't make it so.
@NightsideOfParadise
@NightsideOfParadise 2 ай бұрын
@@cjyoung1634 I can't really. Evolution wouldn't work if equality was the case. Unless we are talking about truths in the world of ideas?
@SoloHunna
@SoloHunna 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant work. Very inspiring for another young entrepreneur like me. Thanks for the motivation bro, I will be reaching out soon.
@OseeQuanKang
@OseeQuanKang 2 ай бұрын
Bro this is dope af. I want to do something similar as this. New sub 💪🏾
@StreetPhilosophyTV
@StreetPhilosophyTV Ай бұрын
Nietzsche didn’t believe that everyone could become an Übermensch. While he didn’t say only certain people are born capable of it, he made it clear that the traits needed-like strong willpower, deep thinking, and creativity-are rare. The Übermensch is an ideal for humanity, but it’s not something everyone can achieve.
@andneomatmj23
@andneomatmj23 2 ай бұрын
Wow! What a change in one Azian man that accept Western values. I never saw this level of assimilation.
@steve19811
@steve19811 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the role of a loving God is undervalued by this guy and a sort of competitive mindset world view instead of a creative one.....
@agetss358
@agetss358 2 ай бұрын
​@@steve19811 then you don't understand him because you are blinded by your God delusion.
@besuto14
@besuto14 2 ай бұрын
This feels like satire
@EvolvetoMen-sh4jb
@EvolvetoMen-sh4jb 2 ай бұрын
Na it kinda does make sense. Every human being has the same value of life but I don't think their opinion has too. It should be based of their intellect and wisdom
@GreatestAuthorinFlorida
@GreatestAuthorinFlorida 2 ай бұрын
You are absolutely meant to strive for greatness and if you don’t, I, for one, wouldn’t be interested in anything you say do or produce.
@Deployer
@Deployer 2 ай бұрын
Wait, this is very interesting sir!
@Odradek1
@Odradek1 2 ай бұрын
Gonna stop you right there homie @0:35 athletics is the only domain in which one can talk openly about defeating competition? What about the entire world of marketing, finance, corporate strategy, political campaigns, a billion plus industry of “get rich quick” self help books with a charlatan tough guy edge? Also may I ask a question: did you read the book?
@Odradek1
@Odradek1 2 ай бұрын
Lmao “start ups work so well” what? Do you know the definition of start-up? You know they usually fail right? I am genuinely enthralled by how moronic every single point is, point by point. No serious philosopher or Nietzsche scholar or person who can read would agree that the motive force that brings all Nietzsche’s work together is “the higher man.” Read a real scholar like Brian Leiter or Paul Katsafanas, Maudemarie Clark or Walter Kaufman or Mattia Riccardi. Nietzsche would be rolling in his grave at the display of dim witted, ressentiment-filled microwave-warmed Great Man theory. The centerpiece of Nietzsche is a fine grained psycho-social anatomy of drives, of the wille zur macht, of the social construction of the subjective ego and of consciousness, of the torrent of forces and flux that constitute life. Nietzsche was a reactionary like you, yeah, but in no way does a lick of this get at what Nietzsche’s project was doing at all In fact you may be confusing him: Nietzsche usually refers to *Friedrich*, not Elizabeth Forster-Nietzsche
@Swaglord-ut5qc
@Swaglord-ut5qc 2 ай бұрын
@@Odradek1 He has 2 videos where he interviews Brain Leiter fyi.
@benclark1482
@benclark1482 2 ай бұрын
These people that are vibing with Nietzsche are scaring me yall calm down.
@TheScipioniCircle
@TheScipioniCircle 2 ай бұрын
Bad boy era’s champion is Nietzsche
@senjai77308
@senjai77308 2 ай бұрын
Why?
@lanceslegion
@lanceslegion 2 ай бұрын
Yes!
@lowspotsound721
@lowspotsound721 2 ай бұрын
I think based on Nietzsche himself, you can't say what Nietzsche is, you can only say what Nietzsche is to you.
@sudarshansharma9807
@sudarshansharma9807 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@IilîliîliîlliI
@IilîliîliîlliI 2 ай бұрын
i dont think this was *exactly* what nietzsche was going for, but ok
@juliemayhwang4469
@juliemayhwang4469 Ай бұрын
I was told it was not sustainable. What do you think?
@jamesc149
@jamesc149 2 ай бұрын
Amazin!
@Charles-y4r
@Charles-y4r 2 ай бұрын
Equality in the political sphere, elitism elsewhere. Remember to respect all people and for the animals. Each person has a talent.
@everythingisfake7555
@everythingisfake7555 2 ай бұрын
Great masters are great at making decisions as they are presented them, not investing themselves into the philosophies of other people. Whatever you train yourself to become (which will have to be done constantly until your death), you will only ever have the moment of which you are in now, that we all share. Reject identity, become aware.
@danyelangel1
@danyelangel1 2 ай бұрын
Where’s that place?
@steve19811
@steve19811 2 ай бұрын
It sounds like a limited worldview of competition just projected onto Western Civilization. Has this man felt the peace of a Christian hymn or is he cosplaying....
@Oaz_Oliver_proof
@Oaz_Oliver_proof 2 ай бұрын
Micheal Sugrue?
@FalcoSorreo
@FalcoSorreo 2 ай бұрын
And yet, if you have any sense you don't want people with such psychology and philosophy to be in charge. It is one thing to be a maniac when you are an artist like Beethoven. You can be a tyrant in art to achieve your goals with no negative consequences for society, we can't say the same thing about other pursuits. Napoleon for example was one of the greatest butchers in history. A butcher who massacred his countrymen and abandoned his soldiers to die when it suited him. He was a genius without a christian morality. He was obssessed with his own name, his own greatness. He almost destroyed europe to pursue that end.
@agetss358
@agetss358 2 ай бұрын
And yet you live in a better world because of him.
@FalcoSorreo
@FalcoSorreo 2 ай бұрын
@@agetss358 Nobody knows what would have happened had Napoleon not done what he did, but we do know a lot terrible things with terrible outcomes that did happen as a consequence of what he did.
@agetss358
@agetss358 2 ай бұрын
@@FalcoSorreo He also did a LOT of good things. Do you think that the people admire him because he was 'evil' as you say? Also, he was a devout Christian. What you really are saying is that your personal conception of goodness doesn't match with his. I don't understand what you mean by what would have happened if Napoleon did not exist. Do you even understand history? You fantasize about the most impossible and vague scenarios without understanding the situation. I will still wait for you listing all the bad things he did as well as all the good things he did. Let's see.
@mouse_thakur
@mouse_thakur 2 ай бұрын
vril society
@omegaredteam2516
@omegaredteam2516 2 ай бұрын
Nietzsche said the wise words.❤❤❤😮😮😮👏👏👏😊😊😊🙏🙏🙏💯🙂
@davidrandell2224
@davidrandell2224 2 ай бұрын
100,000 years and 20 billion brains later one brain- Mark McCutcheon- discovered/ published (2002) the CAUSE of gravity, electricity, magnetism, light and well....everything. Genius level event. “The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy.” Philosophy ended in 1844:” The Unique and Its Property “, Max Stirner/2017 Landstreicher translation. Much to unlearn. Good luck!
@mouse_thakur
@mouse_thakur 2 ай бұрын
tnd
@Odihmantich
@Odihmantich 2 ай бұрын
if everyone was so great (creative genius) that would just be new regular 😂
@senjai77308
@senjai77308 2 ай бұрын
That's the whole point, elevating everyone, instead of sitting there in delusion of "we are equal"
@Odihmantich
@Odihmantich 2 ай бұрын
well. my congratulations to you! We have already plenty of regular! Mission complete! 🎉🥳🎊
@patman-bp3qg
@patman-bp3qg 18 күн бұрын
There would still be differences in abilities unless ofcourse you're building robots who perform similarly unless there's technical issue.
@Odihmantich
@Odihmantich 18 күн бұрын
@@patman-bp3qg I’m surprised that people don’t get the idea! Don’t we have differences in abilities *now?* How do you know that now not everybody is creative genius?!?!?! With variation in their abilities!!!! That’s because you can say “hey! this guy does this great! and that guy doesn’t do such a great job!” I guess one of them is a creative genius and the other one isn’t! If we elevate everyone to a new level (which we *actually do with every new generation)* then *that new level would be the new regular with some folks having better abilities then the rest and then those exceptional people would become the new creative geniuses!!!!!! so we already have that!* bruh
@EvolvetoMen-sh4jb
@EvolvetoMen-sh4jb 2 ай бұрын
Na it kinda does make sense. Every human being has the same value of life but I don't think their opinion has too. It should be based of their intellect and wisdom
@curiouslyeternal
@curiouslyeternal 2 ай бұрын
Something about this guy is off. It feels disingenuous.
@camiloramirez8950
@camiloramirez8950 2 ай бұрын
What makes you say this?
@TheScipioniCircle
@TheScipioniCircle 2 ай бұрын
Yeah he’s being performative. But that’s fine cause this is an audience and he’s giving a lecture. I don’t think he has much experience doing lectures.
@anab0lic
@anab0lic 2 ай бұрын
because his soul is not in accordance with virtue.
@Just_kaay-9
@Just_kaay-9 2 ай бұрын
I was going to say tge same,he's not yet conformably himself ​@@TheScipioniCircle
@1haunt
@1haunt 2 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about this guy but I'm fairly certain this is not an actual lecture but a constructed set with hired people as the audience, it looks very artificial which adds to the disingenuous feeling that you have. He is very engaging but all of it has this air of "fake it till you make it", I don't personally enjoy the cinematic flair with the lighting so carefully set up and the zooming camera angles etc. but I'll admit the content stands out. Maybe this is all very common practice in lectures that I'm unaware of and I'm a total moron for pointing all this out but that's what made me feel the same way you did with the content. I don't find this a negative aspect of the content necessarily, it's just not my preferred way of presentation and it comes down to stylistic and formal choices.
@aj2291
@aj2291 2 ай бұрын
He went from a startup founder to a teacher is the definition of “Those who cannot do - teach.” I ❤ the content but it doesn’t come across “authentic”. The lighting, cameras, are those actors in the audience? Just some honest feedback. Change this to a classroom setting.
@c.galindo9639
@c.galindo9639 2 ай бұрын
Hmm a very interesting topic of discussion and an even more intriguing way to conceptualize his point through. Although some concepts he misconstrued ti outright is wrong about or does not fully grasp the actual point he is referring to. The beginning he speaks of democracy to point out athleticism and tech as concepts spurred by democracy when in fact it is indeed capitalism that created those two empires to thrive to the big powerhouses they are seen as today. Democracy does not constitute value of empires to grow but goes off of a collective to favor something in a system of certain ideals. Capitalism actually creates enterprise to grow on and is made by great entrepreneurship to span even further greater growth. Also he is egregiously wrong on what the ideals of Christianity are and what exactly a Christian should be. The Bible does not view humanity nor humans as perfect but speaks more about how people can be better ti each other for a more thriving way of living and coexisting, amongst many more ideals that people do not understand in the Bible or Christian beliefs. Also being boastful is something all people fall under but is more their ego speaking on behalf of the person. That goes into a whole different topic of discussion that philosophical discussion has explored throughout the ages. This guy seems to read a lot and seek a lot of knowledge and is articulate in his discussions but some things he misrepresented here that were easily noticed by my awareness of certain points he wanted to make for his argument
@TheWay-u1n
@TheWay-u1n 2 ай бұрын
Meritocracy is slave morality.. It is a privilege to provide as was revealed with covid
@zombiemachinery4868
@zombiemachinery4868 2 ай бұрын
Tech and business athletics are full of DEI and ESG limits. It's becoming less and less athletic as time goes by.
@Decocoa
@Decocoa 2 ай бұрын
Bro listens to philosophy lectures just to deliberately miss the point
@zombiemachinery4868
@zombiemachinery4868 2 ай бұрын
@@Decocoa, you don't even know what I'm talking about; and do not bro me clown.
@Godswill_Akin
@Godswill_Akin 2 ай бұрын
Saying great tech startsup used authoritative culture to produce great result in their early days is very much far from truth.. Have you heard of ESOPs? This program was setup in startups for early talent employess to feel like owners of the company. For example, I read at a time that Amazon paid its employes with shares of the company. What actually drives growth and success in production is incentives. And when humans are given the incentives that they are co owners in something, they give their best.. Libertarian Christian Socialists for ever
@MichaelAwor
@MichaelAwor 2 ай бұрын
Great ideas and thought!
@rasheedlewis1
@rasheedlewis1 2 ай бұрын
This looks like a Memoria Press video, but not Christian.
@avinashprasadfilms
@avinashprasadfilms 2 ай бұрын
"Ecce Homo" "Jonathan Bi" what's going on here? 🤔
@jaykellye
@jaykellye 2 ай бұрын
I think using tech and athletes as an example is poor. The idea that we all want to be a Kobe or a Jobs is not accurate
@icemansforge
@icemansforge 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but most have the desire to be glorified and lionized in some extent or another, as seen in “clout chasing” behavior via social media. But most are not willing to apply unflinching will to achieve greatness in anything they do, I don’t care if it’s just a man trying to get laid. Most would just rather complain about how shit has changed in moderninty
@water4112
@water4112 2 ай бұрын
I can’t take this guy seriously when he’s acting like that, just sit down and act human
@Mathematchit
@Mathematchit 2 ай бұрын
Lol, this is Johnathan Bi's greatest lecture and i think he knows that he cannot do better which is why is is cut into pieces and recycled!!! It was so amazing it renewed my INTJ reflexes
@paullanfear5762
@paullanfear5762 2 ай бұрын
Hey. I like your channel. You look too young to be a philosopher... you need long grey, straggly hair! Nietzche is great... though not exactly easy reading. You have read a lot of books that are on my to do list. Good work sir!
@villevanttinen908
@villevanttinen908 2 ай бұрын
How many people can say thay have achieved greatness? Not so many. So you can´t teach Nietzsche to the ordinary people, they don´t benefit anything from it, absolutely waste of time.
@GnomaticMime-lz9js
@GnomaticMime-lz9js 2 ай бұрын
Johnathan Bi is collecting all the infinity stones (philosopher stones) to become the next Jordan🔥 soon he’ll know every thought😎
@GnomaticMime-lz9js
@GnomaticMime-lz9js Ай бұрын
@@GentleLentil127I don’t believe in any concept dominating all concepts. That shit corny.
@yaoooy
@yaoooy 2 ай бұрын
Elitism yes , but meritocratic and just
@borginburkes1819
@borginburkes1819 2 ай бұрын
meritocracy does not exist
@MiyamotoMusashi9
@MiyamotoMusashi9 2 ай бұрын
These are recorded at a lower volume then most of your previous youtubes , i can hardly hear you, while im wearing noise canceling headphones
@HulaMask
@HulaMask 2 ай бұрын
You have the wisdom of someone well beyond your years as well as your articulation ! Listening to you is like listening to to a symphony of knowledge
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