Nigel Farage calls for change to voting system

Despite winning just four seats, Reform took 14.3% of the popular vote - the third party by vote share.
This prompted the party's leader, Nigel Farage, to attack the first past the post electoral system, which he says is outdated.
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[@sirhenrysimmerson9385]

The current system is disgustingly undemocratic

[@jayseabie215]

Reform 4 million votes = 5 seats. Lib Dems 3.5 million votes = 71 seats. How the hell does that work? The system is utterly broken.

[@peterjermey7235]

Because the system is that each constituency chooses who they want to represent them. Both Lib Dems and Labour played to win under the fptp system. Farage has only himself to blame for doing so badly

[@matthewcook9404]

We had a Referendum in 2011 to consider an alternative voting system to First Past The Post. It was rejected by 67% of the electorate, and we must respect the result of that democratic vote. Forever. It’s the will of the people.

[@Mark-kh1ny]

@@matthewcook9404that referendum was between FPTP and AV and didn’t even include PR. Hardly representative of all the choices… (ohhh the irony)

[@peterjermey7235]

@@matthewcook9404 not only that, I'm pretty sure UKIP opposed PR back then. It was only the Lib Dems (and Greens?) who campaigned for it

[@cokezzz8249]

UK is the least democratic nation in the West. Only western nation that adopts this system and we still have unelected House of Lords that can delay needed reform. Britain needs electoral reform urgently in order to restore confidence in its democracy

[@jeycalc6877]

USA electrocal college is worse. Also Canada has the same system, just as bad, we had a kind of house of lords as well

[@jelmerwalsh8973]

The same "Confidence-in-the-system?". that Putin's puppet Nigel Farage and company, spent a decade undermining? Now Nigel will fix what he broken? Excellent Hitler/Trump move! Once a Putin puppet , always a puppet?

[@petertappin9568]

@@cokezzz8249 the conservatives and LibDems had a referendum on changing the electoral system in 2011. It got rejected by the people. There's your democracy...

[@jezphipps142]

The two largest democracies, USA and India, use FPTP.

[@gerrylast]

House of lords may be more about decay than delay.

[@livyalexx]

Farage calling for voting system changes?! 🤔 This could shake things up!

[@boota1979]

Well anyone with any sense knew he would start whinging on about something, Farage is danger to this country.

[@zazzleman]

Yeah like is Brexit calls. Winning 🤡

[@Tom.J.O]

We had a referendum years ago and people decided to keep first past the post. So if Farage wants a second referendum does that mean we can also have one on Brexit?

[@ssuwandi3240]

If only Geert Wilder would have won as one member party in Britain 😊 THE SKY IS FALLING!

[@zazzleman]

Yeah like anyone is going to take notice of him and his dopey voters

[@pam732]

I agree with Nigel we need to overhaul the voting system. It is totally unfair.

[@thebrowniestjohnson3244]

it's not, we are all playing the same rules :D

[@MaestroPlaymaker]

There’s nothing wrong it. Stop complaining

[@peterjermey7235]

I don't remember him arguing for PR when conservatives were benefitting from fptp

[@thebrowniestjohnson3244]

@@peterjermey7235 and remember, if we had PR , no one would have partaken in tactical voting. Labour supporters are the largest of Tactical voters. Labour would stand to gain a huge vote share under PR. So either way, reform will be a small party full of empty promises and no substance. But Deform voters barely understand how taxes work :D

[@alaskanmalamute101]

Don't like farage but do agree that first past the post is 💩

[@johneastwood3039]

We need more honesty like this from the left.

[@armstrongtixid6873]

​@@johneastwood3039 The left has been saying this far more than the right bc FPTP has screwed Lib-Dems and Greens since forever and has also led to Labour being hard done by in 2017

[@johneastwood3039]

@armstrongtixid6873 They never got punished by FPTP on the same scale Reform has. 4 million votes equals 5 seats.

[@armstrongtixid6873]

@@johneastwood3039 And Reform would do the same if they benefitted. I don’t see how Labour doing it is worse than the Tories. It should be about ANYBODY doing it.

[@marvinc9994]

Gotta love the hecklers screaming about 'unity', whilst causing disruption at a hitherto peaceful meeting! God, but they're so BORING!!!

[@jackspring7709]

In fact those hecklers were exposed yesterday by Antifa Public Watch. They're all actors, just like the fake racist from last week: they appeared in the Ken Loach film 'The Old Oak'.

[@Slumbert]

5 seat to 4 million votes seems bizarre.

[@jontullett9068]

Rigged, most people i know voted reform yet still lost in lot of areas. Lot of people still voted Tory’s even though they’ve failed the country for 24 years.

[@aaropajari7058]

They should cry in the arms of the Lib Dems.

[@PAB86]

​@@jontullett9068 at my local voting station there was 12 of us queing for it to open only 1 person was voting different to reform.

[@adam7802]

Our voting system was never designed for party politics. Long overdue change...

[@JediSimpson]

If it was representative to the amount of total votes, they’d have 93 seats.

[@henryburton6529]

Nah bro. Why would Labour vote to lose power?

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Labour above all is (ideally) supposed to represent the will and interests of the commoner.

[@drcommonsense1]

​@@RJALEXANDER777 and I'm sure the majority of the country voted for them... Labour holding the majority as they are is in the interest of the majority of voters

[@janesansome8393]

​@drcommonsense1 no 9 million people voted for them for 400 plus seats reform got 4 million votes for 5 seats lib dems got 71 seats for half a million less votes than reform.

[@1aatlas]

@@drcommonsense1 there was a 60% turnout, of that 60% labour got about 35%. So, 80% of the potential electorate did not vote for labour.

[@drcommonsense1]

@janesansome8393 that how FPTP works. It's pretty fair on balance. The country being broken into constituencies is logical. I'm sure labour won't be changing the method to give up their power. That would be silly

[@michaelkelly9545]

First past the post is criminal

[@mash83]

So is brexit but apparently it's the will of the people..just like the voting system

[@yourma2000]

@@mash83 Brexit was fair. More voters voted to leave than to remain, it doesn't get fairer than that.

[@mash83]

@@yourma2000 same with the voting system

[@yourma2000]

@@mash83 Not the same at all. One is simple referendum with two options, the option with the majority of the votes wins. The electoral system has way more than two options standing in a constituency with candidates getting elected with less than 50% of the votes way too often. FPTP isn't fit for a country with as many parties as it has.

[@pam732]

We need a referendum to change it.

[@xrp589baby]

id vote to change it. id vote yes. Labour are GLOATING but the reality is they didnt win...Conservatives just LOST. only 33% of vote DICTATING how 66% live is ridiculous

[@mash83]

We had one already.. let's have another vote on brexit in that case..

[@xrp589baby]

@@mash83 DJ Khalid: "another one"

[@WhateverMan35]

We did and we rejected the alternative vote.

[@johneastwood3039]

@@mash83 We've had 2 on EU membership.

[@kc_1018]

UK should switch to a mixed-member proportional representation system. Voters get two votes: one to decide the representative for their single-seat constituency, and one for a political party. 325 seats elected through single-district constituencies using FPTP, while the other 325 seats elected through party-list proportional representation.

[@trevaudio]

Why not STV….the fairest system ?

[@tfinde]

Everyone was quiet about this when Corybn was standing.

[@trackingstupidity1]

The voting system must change, this is a disgrace!

[@Mogojoegotube]

5 seats for a 6-week campaign is still incredible. I think reform was hard done for sure, but 5 seats are remarkable.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Come off it, he’s been campaigning for 18 years as party leader of UKIP v1, 2 and now 3.

[@trevaudio]

One more seat than the greens ??? Sinn Fein got more seats than them. The media should stop platforming this idiot !

[@paulhumphreys-gw3po]

power of the people, just imaging what we could achieve if we wasn't so divided

[@Dogfacedbloke]

@@Steven-vo4ee Sure, because Farage had no success with UKIP. No wait, he single-handedly took the country out of the EU...

[@redbloodcell4047]

​@@paulhumphreys-gw3poYeah hopefully at the next election it'll be 0 seats for Reform

[@1centimetre]

Coming in second only means one thing-losers. No matter the system, it doesn't change that fact. 😂😂😂

[@keith8609]

Yes it is outdated and unfair

[@marilynranklin3220]

Voting system out of cell by date !

[@drcommonsense1]

Sell*

[@Khananewasright]

Well 34 percent dose not erqual over 60 perecen of seats

[@microfarming8583]

Should have had over 90 seats

[@jezphipps142]

A confidence trickster who tells the empty headed what they want to hear.

[@hcm444]

And the alternative parties are better? Tell me an honest leader please and I will vote for them.

[@TheChubbySnail]

He resonates with people because he at least identifies problems people face in day to day Britain, unlike the archaic old boys clubs that are Labour Libs Tory. Isn’t being a voice for the people what politicians in a democracy are suppose to be?

[@redbloodcell4047]

​@@TheChubbySnailFarage is straight out of the old boys club. The Reform party was set up by elitist individuals to dupe the working class into voting for their own demise, yet again. Policies which will directly harm people like those in Clacton, and reward those like Farage and Tice.

[@yourma2000]

33% of the voters get 63% of the voice in the parliament whilst 14% get less than 1%? This disproportionate distribution of seats needs to stop now, replace the archaic FPTP with the Proportional Representation system.

[@davidpierce7581]

FPTP needs reforming

[@HGSuper]

He wants a european style of voting? 😂😂

[@BILLVANNER]

He wants a fair style of voting and bloody right. I am looking forward to seeing a good man back in the commons and also the pathetic, and often childish, insults which the left will throw at him. He has the country as the most important thing to fight for. Reform UK in 2029 or earlier.

[@kroosgiro]

@@microfarming8583American is not fair at all. Their house elections are gerrymandered, their president is not elected by popular vote and there is also voter suppression issues.

[@Britannia43]

Instead of throwing low jabs why don't we recognise that our current system is flawed?

[@Xusemeh]

​@@microfarming8583they already do lol

[@microfarming8583]

@@Xusemeh they certainly don't have the first past the post system in America "lol"

[@Mark-kh1ny]

Yes, it’s not representative of how we voted. Lagging behind as standard. Sort it out!!

[@cubby8182]

We do need PR.. but you'd be delusional to think he wants it to actually do anything good. He would mess this country up even more than the Tories ever could.

[@BugattiBoy01]

Look at countries in Europe with PR systems, they can never get anything done and the governments always collapse as they have to join with 7 different parties who never agree. FPTP is the best for the country

[@madgavin7568]

FPTP sucks, and a government should never have too much power.

[@trevaudio]

Not true, European countries have arguably had way more successful governments than the uk !

[@redbloodcell4047]

​@@trevaudioNot true.

[@keithsewell8389]

"First Past the Post" is an excellent way of racing horses, but an abysmal way of voting for representative legislatures.

[@MichaelJones-wh9cy]

Does the girl at 1:13 know who have been in power the last 14 years? 😂

[@presidentxijinpingspoxdoct9756]

Even the Tories act like Labour-lite, so little wonder she is confused.

[@Chalize]

Clacton looks like a chav town. This is the type of people he attracts.

[@punchy1325]

​@@Chalizetoff

[@SandymoorFerrariClub]

@@Chalize 3 out of the 4 constituencies that voted Reform are failing seaside 'resort' towns on the north sea. I grew up somewhere quite similar and the culture and understanding of how things work is massively different, particularly in that people there seem to have no idea of how to make money other than trying to sell souvenirs, burgers or alcohol to tourists.

[@joecater894]

@@Chalize If a "chav town" then its due to failing tory and labour policy.

[@robertdarcy6210]

There was a vote about this in 2011. "Get over it", right?

[@TheDigitalBible]

Unfortunately no, there wasn't. There was a vote for AV, not PR. 🙄

[@creditelectric]

The electoral system is one thing but the democratic process is far more effective if far more participated.60% participation rate is low & skews the result it is nothing to be proud of.

[@1971efc]

No body votes in certain area`s because what would be the point in voting Green / LibDem or Tory in a Labour area as your vote is useless as is voting Labour in a Tory area is Useless -- This first past the post system is not fit for purpose any more in the modern age

[@weird_autumn42]

broken clock is right once or twice a day unfortunately

[@jackspring7709]

By the way: those hecklers: they've been exposed by Antifa Public Watch: they're all actors, too - they were in Ken Loach's film 'The Old Oak'.

[@HKsolo-oq4sq]

is he going to build more public toilets for Clacton?

[@Xusemeh]

We need Proportional Representation!

[@trevaudio]

Which one though ??? No point keeping shouting PR ! Multi seat constituencies would be good too

[@terryh5741]

The Congolese Centre for democracy sends their congratulations to Labour for winning 1 in 5 votes to become the mandated government, and hopes they can work together in destroying England once and for all.

[@peace-now]

A PR system would mean more coalitions.

[@yourma2000]

Then so be it, I want my views represented in parliament as well as millions of other people do too.

[@peace-now]

@@yourma2000 Fair enough. I also think PR is a better system.

[@ronanmartin1990]

Outdated!?!? When was it ever a good system?

[@abcde_5949]

There's never going to be any change about this because party that is in power is the one that is benefitting from it. Same in US, first past the post is an awful electoral system.

[@WhateverMan35]

We had a referendum on this back in 2011 and nearly 70% of the votes opposed it.

[@henwood122]

Can we just do STV

[@yourma2000]

Sounds too much like AV which we rejected in 2011.

[@adrianbew9641]

Ive complained about our system since the late 1990s

[@tomimpala]

It's sad to see a pr system would lead to a rise in the right wing, but if that's democracy, so be it

[@TheDigitalBible]

As it would also see a rise in the extreme left so it all balances out.

[@janpetersen7440]

FPTP was probably excellent for horse racing but is not suitable as an electoral system.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Its fine for a two party system, and having a majority one way or the other in a two party system prevents deadlocks. But we're seeing a major issue when it comes to a system with multiple popular parties.

[@davidoldboy5425]

He is absolutely correct, presently we are not a true democracy

[@redbloodcell4047]

Apparently we were in 2016. Funny that.

[@davidoldboy5425]

@@redbloodcell4047 Correct, no we weren't, nor the years before that.

[@matthewcook9404]

We had a Referendum in 2011 to consider an alternative voting system to First Past The Post. It was rejected by 67% of the electorate, and we must respect the result of that democratic vote. Forever. It’s the will of the people.

[@Paul-ow8fh]

PAUL🇬🇧They as to be more participation from the general public. Through referendums on Immigration, and these International bodies like UN, EU, NATO. These organisations have to much of a say in our lives ENOUGH.

[@Matt.WHU.Rayney]

lol to the bird with the arm fat 😂😂😂😂

[@robertfraser2478]

Ridiculous a party can get 411 mps from 34% of the vote, labour could be a 1 term government's especially if cost of living doesnt improve

[@LowleyUK]

We live in a two party dictatorship which nobody actually supports. People only vote for labour or the tories to stop the other party winning. This system has to come to an end.

[@theunexplainablecrumbs4387]

Labour and the Tories will never want proportional representation because they'll lose out

[@BILLVANNER]

Just a couple of years ago, Starmer wanted a referendum because he wanted to get rid of 1st passed the post for PR.

[@theunexplainablecrumbs4387]

@@BILLVANNER Well now we'll see if he intends to change the system

[@BILLVANNER]

@@theunexplainablecrumbs4387 Not now that he is in no 10.

[@Clyde7709]

No tax without representation

[@marleybarr]

democracy should be based on fairness I think every vote should equate to how many seats a party has as that’s what a majority could want how is this even a question utterly failed system why most people don’t vote

[@captainrex4723]

Then how would local issues get representation and attention, who would local councils liaise with?

[@marleybarr]

@@captainrex4723 that would have to be sorted when the new system is voted in more than likely the parties would have local representatives but just based on there vote count

[@teelo523]

I wouldn't mind if its replaced with a better system

[@TrevorWilliams-fq8mg]

Been tried before. Anyone who is old enough will remember the David Owen/David Steele SDP alliance. Nigel Farage would say that wouldn't he, and right though he is it's not going to happen. Reform will have to do it the hard way which is going to take some time.

[@L_U-K_E]

First past the post is incredibly outdated now.

[@john_g-2024]

we don't elect party's, we elect people, so it is completely irrelivent what a party's vote share is. if it is vote share then the biggest share of the vote was those who didn't want to vote for any of the cabdidates.

[@benadams8454]

Good to see the tolerant "be kind" people out in force.

[@jonathanj.7344]

Screaming out their favourite stupid name.

[@void2772]

Look up “the paradox of tolerance”

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Straw man claptrap

[@ac_1349]

In the words of your Lord Farage, why should we tolerate the intolerant?

[@grahamcraig1980]

364k votes away from being the official opposition

[@anatolydyatlov5196]

Nobody complained about the voting system when BoJo got his majority, funny that

[@SamtheEnglishllad]

I disagree to Farage. UK is a complex and diverse country which means that imp decisions should be taken locally. Hence comes the first past the post. Farage himself regretfully cost us bloody brexit.

[@colinaitken5090]

The new chancellor gets inspiration from Janet Yellon and the foreign secretary is friends with Obama,what could possibly go wrong

[@sarahknight5007]

The establishment can't allow that as he well knows oil snakes man.

[@theoschofield1495]

Yes we have “been with labour so long” what 5 days 😂😂

[@pokeybit]

Fast track the policies. Let's hope NHS and education on up top because damn.

[@japfourme381]

Nigel has been saying this for quite a few years now, about our Political system, and he’s absolutely right, it’s Protectionism of our Political System!!

[@soniaspf9705]

No he disagreed with the PR referendum in 2011 so changes his mind when it suits him

[@IdleMegaPixel253]

@@soniaspf9705 Wasn't the referendum in 2011 a choice to move to AV instead? I always thought that was different to PR but I might be wrong.

[@samuelsstuffyt]

To be honest though, FPTP has ensured a stable political system and government throughout British history, as it usually always ensures strong majority governments and therefore a sense of accountability in the political system. No offence but people who are calling for PR do not understand how poor the track records of said systems are, pretty much every European country that uses PR (Germany, Belgium, Netherlands etc) have chaotic politics, nothing ever gets done, constant stagnation, little accountability and the need for multiple parties to join in coalition to form a small majority, which again means constant infighting and ineffective governments.

[@alanhowe7659]

Well, he would, wouldn't he?

[@clkbateman]

Even labours Andy Burnham agrees with Nigel Farage and wants change to the voting system.

[@davidcanty6488]

I'm a Reformer. If the voting system was changed to PR, how would it be decided which MP was chosen and which constituency they would manage? I personally believe this system would get in Islamic Extremists! Any ideas?

[@carolegill2456]

Truth hurts the woke fools. Reform is our only hope to save our Country

[@anatolydyatlov5196]

They're going to save the country with 5 seats?

[@trevaudio]

@@anatolydyatlov5196 At least they can car pool 😂

[@Omy_Per]

4 million votes = 4 seats 9.7 million votes = 412 seats 😂😂😂😂😂 No fringe political party will ever win an election in this form of electoral system.

[@ddddirge]

Current Labour got the greatest seat/vote share ratio since the last Labour government and maybe ever since Middlesex still existed as a county Why would they change the voting system that benefits them the most? Even I doesn't like how FPTP works but since the ones that currently rules are the ones that benefited from it the most they won't change, maybw they're gonna make it more gerrymandered to benefit them more 😞😞😞

[@kevinharker1840]

Reform is needed and it's coming Sky news.

[@wtafootball4224]

This is the only thing I agree with farage on. PR works very well in Ireland.

[@trevaudio]

They have the fairest, but most complex one…..single transferable vote. Nigel wouldn’t like that, because a party like reform would be transfer toxic. Ireland also has multi seat constituencies….a better system as well.

[@wtafootball4224]

@@trevaudio yes absolutely correct. The far right weren’t very transfer friendly in the recent European elections

[@FionaJane-vc2tw]

The system should change, but it will never give Farage a majorty because people are tired of toxic divisive politicians. France rejected Le Pen last night. 🎉🎉

[@jonbarrebrammer4374]

Actors in the room?

[@drcommonsense1]

From the man who praised the Liz Truss budget as the best Tory budget in decades 😂😂😂

[@WilliamLeeson1]

Sooner the voting system is changed the better.

[@DavidGetling]

Those of us who aren't mathematically illiterate fully understand the absurdity and unfairness of the current system. Unfortunately in 2011 the dim-witted British electorate was given a chance to change it and refused to do so.

[@yourma2000]

No, we were offered an equally stupid voting system where a candidate that no-one chose as their first vote could become the MP. It was only fairer in the sense that no-one would be happy with the MP that they elected and if we had voted to adopt it then that would have snuffed out any efforts or calls for PR for many generations as the adoption of AV would have been seen as a progressive action taken by the people and "Why do we need to talk about PR when we just adopted this new system that the people wanted?". By not adopting AV we could at least say "We didn't vote to keep FPTP, we voted to reject AV." and still keep the cards on the table for a system change. That's why I voted against AV and I stand by m decision because now the talk of PR is flaring up again and the AV vote feels like a distant memory to people.

[@ByddinRhyddidCymru]

We need a new electoral system, and a longer one, 6 weeks will never be enough for smaller parties & independents to garner enough support

[@user-qd8bk5xh4w]

and media should support all parties and not be biased, giving every party fair coverage

[@redbloodcell4047]

​@@user-qd8bk5xh4wwhich would mean not talking about Farage as much. Somehow he manages to suck in all the media attention.

[@Evemeister12]

People only complaining about FPTP because their beloved nigel makes noises about it.

[@0ihatetrolls01]

AHahahhaaha now everyones mad about the voting system, but everyone was quiet when it benefited the tories?

[@howwhatwherewhen8758]

big big electoral prize at 1:38

[@jordank249]

Yes. It is. It is stunning that people still defend this system only to admit that "lesser of two evils" is the BEST it can do.

[@sonofanarchy6628]

It's undemocratic

[@trinaerswell7962]

NEWS PAPERS ARE FITT FOR ONE THING WRAPPING CHIPS AND FISH 🐟 UP 😅😅😅

[@antonyjohn6136]

More SWP cranks.

[@Mike_5]

Jaywick next for the F Man

[@willohara227]

We had a referendum! He of all people should respect voters decision

[@Anonymous-hz3zz]

1) that was in 2011, people's minds have changed since 2) they mostly voted against the government rather than the electoral system

[@David_Bower]

+ 3) PR wasn't an option in the referendum

[@tfinde]

​@@Anonymous-hz3zzpeoples minds have changed 🤣 = they don't like the result this time

[@bobdarrick2628]

@@tfindefirst past the post is good. It prevents parties like Reform from having much of an influence.

[@GM-gb1eu]

I've heard that from recent studies, less and less people are defending this system, so I think the UK should change it.

[@MaestroPlaymaker]

Ohhhh shut up! This guy has fooled the British public and they’re still listening to him

[@thomasoroarke7789]

Its very hard to disagree with him

[@georgehenderson5470]

Nobody wanted their candidates. End of. If we scrap first past the post, rural areas with small populations and different needs (such as Cornwall or Devon) won't get the same representation as areas with huge populations (like London or Greater Manchester). The system works, it's not perfect but it works.

[@OrganisedMud]

The only people who are represented under First Past the Post are the 1m-1.5m swing voters in the 150 or so marginal constituencies that decide every election. All policy in this country is designed to serve their interests, which is why so many people feel unrepresented.

[@ses694]

Proportional representation is not one system, these disadvantages are true for those where we vote for parties and assign seats based on that. More suitable systems for the UK that would still have constiuency MPs include those used by Ireland and Germany

[@Kevin-lf4xx]

How great to see that at last we have a Brexit benefit name,y the humiliation of the Tory party and that the arch Brexiteer facilitated it .

[@nzr4699]

Australia's preferential voting system is great. Nigel, look at that system !

[@drcommonsense1]

Nigel should be focusing on Clacton, not Kier Starmer

[@trevaudio]

@@drcommonsense1 That’s not going to happen though !!! Look at his record as an MEP

[@isaacjohnson4123]

I actually agree with Nigel for once.

[@sonofanarchy6628]

We live in am evil absolute rile country

[@chaphidoesstuff]

Ok

[@Paws4Thought669]

I think everyone is apart from the establishment

[@tfinde]

Nigel is the establishment

[@Paws4Thought669]

@@tfinde probably 😁

[@lorrainenichol5607]

Actors again!

[@rolandrothwell4840]

Farage is right about one thing only thing, and that's proportional representation

[@SandymoorFerrariClub]

It's so great that a right-wing party is stepping forward to say this. If only a right-wing party had been in power for the last decade and a half and in a position to change our electoral system to some sort of proportional representation. Alas, right wing parties like the Conservatives never really got the opportunity to hold power in UK government, did they.

[@petertappin9568]

Check your history. We've had a referendum on PR in the last 14 years. It got regected.

[@1971efc]

@@petertappin9568 It was not PR that got rejected -- it was an over complicated Alternative vote that got rejected