In this video I show you why I anneal my brass PE and how I do it. I was inspired by this video.. • Titanic Trumpeter Fore...
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@MrVolvobloke3 жыл бұрын
A that's it in a nutshell. If you want to watch models being built there's loads of channels out there, but if you want to learn HOW to build models- you come here. Thanks for being so generous with the tips Nige.
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. It's nice to hear praise rather than "Have you ever finished a model"?
@mbenn81683 жыл бұрын
@@NigelsModellingBench But have you ever finished a model? - Naaaah! Ditto that, this is an absolute goldmine for tips and techniques. Especially as a life long Tamiya fan, when I risk a Roden or Revell, the fit and finish tips are invaluable.
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
@@mbenn8168 ha ha bloody ha!!
@marcushalter4603 жыл бұрын
Well said, a wealth of knowledge you are Nige
@paulkirkland32632 ай бұрын
I used to anneal brass in metalwork classes at school, so I was familiar with it. What I wasn't familiar with was the method of rolling the annealed brass on a sanding sponge! This will be a huge help - thank you!
@rabidbat97083 жыл бұрын
Nigel you are right about both, quenching and not quenching brass. Brass anneals in a few seconds at 700f (371c) to 750f (399c) to long at this temp or higher temp and the brass remains permanently soft, not a big deal for modeling use, but for most things it needs to be able to work harden again, so it needs quenched to stop the process. Also the lowest temp brass will anneal at is 600f (316c) takes about an hour. Good vid as always, seems like a lot of new people are getting into this hobby and vids like this will keep the frustration levels down and keep them in the hobby.
@trumpetertitanic42243 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the shoutout Nigel. I appreciate it loads. Ill be doing the same very soon for you and a few other channels that helped me and are helping me get through this model and document it to hopefully help others. You ROCK and thanks for all the great vids. If it wasn't for people like you I guarantee, Trumpeter wouldn't have half the sales they do. The details are overwhelming without the support of channels like yours. Keep up the great work!!!
@paulleigh77923 жыл бұрын
Nigel: Excellent demonstration on a topic I’d not really had on the radar up to now.
@TheModelBoatGuy2 жыл бұрын
Great video Nigel, annealing PE was a slow and rather painful leaning curve for me! Being very pleased with my models and then watching them slowly disassemble themselves over the course of a few months or years! Cheers, Rob
@modelsandbeer2 жыл бұрын
Hello Nigel! Great tip, Thank you! This will be a very nice addition to my photoetch arsenal! Thank you for sharing!
@NigelsModellingBench2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ianthomson93633 жыл бұрын
Now that's what I call a very useful video. I have some bits of PE in upcoming projects, and being quite new to this aspect of modelling I've learned how to do things properly. Many thanks!
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@darylsuess89903 жыл бұрын
Amazing what a difference a little heat can do. Thanks for the tip Nigel. Cheers!
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@90sarcadefighter53 жыл бұрын
I shall do this forever! thank you for this priceless tip Nigel.
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@clydesims51213 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Nigel! Just put the torch on my Christmas list.
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Good gift!!
@phillipsiviter20243 жыл бұрын
I watched your annealing during one of your Titanic videos and went and invested in a Lexivon set of Amazon - took two attempts as the first one got “lost” by Hermes - second one was by Royal Mail.
@S_MannMann3 жыл бұрын
THANKS for the info! Question - (I think I saw this on another KZbin Video about annealing - I asked Aussie Trekkie this question but he didn't know): To gauge the correct amount of heat to apply - scribble lines on the brass with a Sharpie marker, then apply torch (evenly) over the brass surface until the marker lines have "boiled" off. What do you think? Has anyone else heard of (or tried) this? (Seems like annealing may not be necessary for some photo-etch parts but is very helpful for parts to be "curled" or parts that may be flexed a lot.)
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
It's like airbrushing.. some just get on with it, some like to turn it into a scientific exercise. Basically.. heat it till it changes to a blue hue, quench or not. If it is still springy afterwards, just try it again. If you start to see red.. BACK OFF!!!
@SteveJonesScaleModellingSite3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Nigel. I learnt something new which is always a good thing. Many thanks
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it
@ernest98685 ай бұрын
is there a point in annealing things like 1/350 ship railings and such? they are super thin already. i understand why you would bother with larger strips of brass like in the video
@NigelsModellingBench5 ай бұрын
No never anneal anything you dont want to bend as you would seat belts etc.
@karlosmitz30273 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great tutorial! I stuffed up my Hobby Boss 1/35 Land Rover headlight grills - didn’t do it and ruined them!
@SullysScaleModels3 жыл бұрын
I wish id know about this earlier lol this is brilliant! Iv just done some seat belts i will have to remember this for next time! Great vid some great info, lean something new every day!!
@AbstractArmorHLF3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative.
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@paulbrooker52033 жыл бұрын
Another great tip , cheers old bean .
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@georgedistel12033 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information
@alessandrocovacevich53463 жыл бұрын
Spectacular 🙌🏻
@olivercooney66453 жыл бұрын
Two videos in one day that's a good effort
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
There may be three??
@olivercooney66453 жыл бұрын
@@NigelsModellingBench your a tease hahaha
@yvonnecarpenter29572 жыл бұрын
Can all PE materials be annealed or only brass? The PE sets I use are not brass, I am not sure what the material is - all I know is that it is NOT yellowish like brass! But I do struggles to keep the roll, mostly for exhaust pipes.
@NigelsModellingBench2 жыл бұрын
I believe any metal can be annealed, just heat it till it turns red and allow to cool. You are supposed to quench copper and brass but if you quench steel it will harden it. Best not quench at all.
@127TROOP3 жыл бұрын
perfect tutorial.....subbed and thanks Nigel.....🤙🏼
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@THROTTLEPOWER3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Nigel !!
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@mikerobitaille96223 жыл бұрын
Hi Nige, I saw your your annealing video and like most of your videos... I learned the why/benefit of doing things. Thank you for sharing :-) Question: For PE where bends are required, is it recommended to anneal them first and does size or degree/severity of bend influence the decision? I just received my first Eduards cockpit PE set in 1/72 and several of the pieces require bending...
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
No Mike, don't anneal anything that needs to be bent, however, if it needs to be curved, like a wheel arch or something it's easier if it's annealed.
@mbenn81683 жыл бұрын
Might be a silly question, but why don't the manufacturers just anneal the whole sheet?
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
The Brass will lose its ductility over time, which is another good reason for doing this.. it kind of "sets" in the correct shape.
@mbenn81683 жыл бұрын
@@NigelsModellingBench Thx mate. Understood.
@steveclarke62573 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that you can't quite anneal brass in the kitchen oven, as they don't quite get hot enough to get to the 300+ deg C you need.
@vasili12073 жыл бұрын
you dont need to get it that hot , oven is fine for pe , maybe brass bars
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
I've tried annealing in my oven at 300 degrees.. it didn't work. I have read you need 400 degrees? Also, it's the material that determines the heat required, not its mass. This must not be confused with welding or brazing, where heat soak is an issue the more mass you have, so a higher current is required to achieve the same local temperature for a good weld.
@jamesmoore61463 жыл бұрын
What type of magnifier do you use to work with these small pieces?
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
On old daylight one with the ring lamp around the lens.
@S_MannMann3 жыл бұрын
One other thing - same as Vasili's comment below. Shouldn't the brass be allowed to cool gradually? Wouldn't that allow the brass to retain maximum ductility?
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
Non ferrous materials should be quenched to correctly anneal them.. but in practice I find it makes not a lot of difference, considering we are only annealing very thin strips. Maybe a larger mass of material. like a 10mm thick plate would require quenching to fix its annealed state. I'm sure Google is your friend.
@vasili12073 жыл бұрын
not sure why you quench the brass in water that makes it stiffer as the molecules lock back up . :S
@NigelsModellingBench3 жыл бұрын
No.. not with non ferrous materials. look it up. It's an argument I've had all my adult life. I was taught years ago by a very senior Metallurgist I worked with.
@jeremysnow3030 Жыл бұрын
I think your white/balance keeps changing..!!
@NigelsModellingBench Жыл бұрын
Yes it does. if I fix it, the whites are too bright or the other stuff is too dark. I'm a modeller, not a photographer. Now tell me.. did you get anything of use from the video?
@jeremysnow3030 Жыл бұрын
I want to add fuselage ‘frames’ to my Airfix MK-IXc so this gave me confidence 👍
@jeremysnow3030 Жыл бұрын
I have really enjoyed 👍 your Lancaster and Spitfire Series’. Do you have any home photo-etch videos?