Night Vision Mounts

In this video we talk about 4 different mounts that I have experience with available on the market. The Wilcox G24, G22, Norotos Losto and INVG. Enjoy.
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[@atacorion]

Jon, the G22E does have a longer track and is the go to mount for dudes with SCBA/Gas mask mission sets, however probably the biggest thing is that it does not feature the break away function that the G24 has for Airborne and Air Assault mission requirements.

[@KineticConsulting]

Good point. Totally forgot about the break away features

[@artofwar1776]

I was wondering why i decided to go with a G24 and not the G22. Oh yeah, the breakaway. I forgot about that too.

[@Mrgunsngear]

great video

[@KineticConsulting]

Thanks man. Feel free to share

[@josephhickman4849]

Great info! I love the clear comparisons for the NVG equipment

[@J0n.M]

Thanks for putting this together. What a great summary and great job!

[@N8TheSnake]

Sweet jesus this video solves so many questions for me! This made me confident enough to finally drop the money on my PVS-14 setup. Thank you for explaining things clearly!

[@KineticConsulting]

Happy to help man

[@Marcus-hw5il]

Damn the internet needed this video. I did too. Thanks, nicely done

[@blackbushido]

Excellent and very informative video!!! GREAT JOB!!!!! Thank you

[@MultiLoganM]

this video was pretty timely for me, my first pvs14 is in the mail and Ive been having trouble deciding what I wanted to use with it (when I can find stuff.) Great video as always

[@reddottacticalfl]

awesome information man.. thank you

[@Boon20]

The cadex mount out of canada is slick. Its push to over come up and push button down.

[@oscardieguez2607]

Thanks for the info dude.

[@AJPPP]

You're overlooking a ton of functionality on the INVG. You can swing the INVG over to the other eye in a pinch by just pushing to overcome the rotation.

[@ninpolife7749]

Thanks for the video.

[@rf9078]

Im just glad he let us out of the ammo tin after the intro, im using a g24

[@spade2you]

I have the %}#]%[^ rhino mount and will be stuck with that for a while. Really wish went with the Wilcox mount when I had the chance.

[@813todd]

Psst. Hey homie. I think you meant that’s a “pvs-14 arm” at 2:25 and that’s a “j-arm” at 3:00. The dovetail is on the “pvs-14 arm” that mounts to the g-24 vs. that crappy bayonet that mounts to the j-arm. Good range of equipment and shown features for sure. Thanks always. I’m still subscribed and on alert for all the “do better”.

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Someone needs to make a dovetail for the g11 Mount it would do two things. Essentially make a force to overcome g24 And give a path to upgrade out of bayonet and into dovetail for cheaper than buying a new mount.

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Please make a video on the coti/pas-29 I need to know I’f it’s worth the $ ?

[@thegeth4293]

I only have a pvs14, and litetallu bought a used j arm and gi rhino moun off of ebay for like $20 each. It wobbles like hell, im thinking of gettimg a wilcox g11 and a new bayonet j arm in the futire

[@2aprecisionninja897]

Another great video. Question...How/where do you store your bump helmet and NVD on your kit and in what configuration? What do other guys do? What pouches/cases do you recommend?

[@BobBob-il2ku]

In for the answer the nods garage looks cool

[@KineticConsulting]

I don't store my helmet on my kit and usually use a backpack for my NVGs. I don't like keeping them in a pouch on my kit.

[@nikkobrown421]

goddamn those dtnvs's look fine

[@KineticConsulting]

They be fine

[@AaaaandYerDhem]

Do you have a video of the Norotos with the Wilcox J-Arm? I'm trying to find where I've seen it, but I can't find it anywhere

[@KineticConsulting]

I have one on Instagram

[@scg2659]

Could I use the day cap and train with night vision during the day or when the sun is about to set bc I’m about to get a set

[@KineticConsulting]

Yup. You can.

[@legolasgrof]

Jon, I'm looking at an Elcan as a way to passively aim under nods. Is it possible to run any magnified optic on nods without a clip on device?

[@KineticConsulting]

It is possible if the optic has a diopter setting

[@LordPerique]

Thoughts on the AKA2?

[@josephleinhauser6130]

Can you do a video talking about aviation mounts and using the different ball detent options? is the gsgm the only game in town or can an anvis mount work? Hb some of the knock off gsgm mounts?

[@KineticConsulting]

So I don't use ball detent mounts but can maybe get my hands on some. I'm not a fan of them but have friends that are

[@snowjerkface]

Argh! I got my G24 and Wilcox J-Arm but it would not seat. Well, it would with a little help from a small hammer. I filed it down on the edge and now it seats ok. there is no play on the dovetail but I was a little surprised that this arm could still give trouble as I was doing reading on GI arms being a hit and miss scenario. I'm a noob on this stuff so it's interesting to find all the quirks out.

[@LordPerique]

A lot of clones have that problem, are you sure yours is genuine?

[@snowjerkface]

@@LordPerique Definitely a good question. I got a pair of binos and they snap right in with no issue so not sure. Did buy off the eBay. The unit came with box and has a serial. It seems pretty sturdy from the fake videos I watched but I really don't know shit. lol

[@born2make510]

Jon, thank you for all the info. What is the reason the INVG only accepts the dual dovetail adapter? I’m planning on running a single pvs14 and based on your review it seems the INVG is the way to go. I would like to have the ability to switch eyes on the fly though and was looking at using the mod armory force-to-overcome dovetail j-arm. I know this also might have an issue with tolerances, as Sam from Silent Solutions mentioned Norotos to norotos mounts are best in the comments, but thought the capability might be worth it.

[@NathanWisniewski]

I've been planning on doing the same as well. Would love to hear some input.

[@KineticConsulting]

You can mix the Norotos invg and the Wilcox J-arm instagram.com/p/CLr_poXnJ4S/?igshid=1vzf1k9robzj4

[@codybonus230]

ATN NVM14-2 Looking for a bridge to fit the ATN NVM14-2 stock

[@KineticConsulting]

Atn doesn't make good night vision

[@pataguccioper8or251]

Do you know anything about the an/pvs 18 I found a housing for 300$ and was wondering about it?

[@KineticConsulting]

I don't man. I wouldn't get anything that can't be serviced easy like a 14

[@dustinshaw2419]

I have a Wendy 3.0 bump and I noticed you have the same rails on your helmet. I am trying to mount sordin ear pro to it. What arms and adapter are you using, and where can I get them?

[@KineticConsulting]

I use amps so you'll need the Axl sordin Amp arm adapters plus Amp arms and the Unity Tactical platform adapters.

[@dustinshaw2419]

@@KineticConsulting thanks

[@danielbarnett3582]

Excellent content, quick question, whats your opinion on bridged PVS14s? I have a PVS14 for when I originally got into NV and would like to have a dual setup but of course there just damn expensive. Do you think its a good alternative?

[@Brew2point0]

Heavy compared to dedicated binos.

[@KineticConsulting]

Let's start with I prefer duals but everyone has a budget and bridged 14s as long as they are really close in spec are very usable. If you have a good bridge you'll probably be fine.

[@danielbarnett3582]

@@KineticConsulting Glad to hear that, if you ever get the time to review them, it'd be cool to see a PVS14 bridge comparison video. Its nice so see the options, especially for a broke soul such as myself

[@Richardjohnson6969]

@@danielbarnett3582 the knights armament pvs14 bridge is the go to housing for dual 14s.

[@thegeth4293]

Would you rather have a white phosphor pvs14 or green binos?

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Don’t go Binos. Get the white phosphor then get thermal for the 2nd eye. World of difference.

[@himynameistim009]

Is there a noticeable different between the tolerances of Norotos to Wilcox and vice versa? There’s stories of Wilcox J arms not fitting into Norotos mounts and DDA going into G24’s

[@atacorion]

Keep it Wilcox to Wilcox, and Norotos to Norotos.

[@himynameistim009]

SilentSolutions thats what I’ve always heard and stuck too

[@BobBob-il2ku]

I use a Wilcox j arm in a norotos Mount. Works fine but I’m sure there is some stacking tolerance issues in some mounts

[@iansorensen1790]

what do think of ball detent stuff like the wilcox gsgm, ai sam, or ab storm mounts?

[@atacorion]

2 words......no.

[@KineticConsulting]

Not a fan personally

[@charlieghague]

Too bad the Wilcox mounts don't let you stow a PVS 14 to the side like the Norotos. It'd be awesome if you could do that as well as switch eyes easily. Kinda feels like a big oversight on their part.

[@Legrejer]

Ax14 pro

[@ash93kg]

Which mount will fit a ATN PS-15-WPT?

[@KineticConsulting]

Depends on what it has on top.

[@gec-o2167]

The latest gen G24 has the longer arm of the G22 so that's a moot point now.

[@Snozzelquaf]

6:35 I thought the G24 had a hight adjustment you actually addressed in relation to the G22 which doesn't... correct? I thought thats why the G24 superceded the G22, please some one correct me if I'm wrong.

[@Thunderbolt22A10]

G22 is designed with mask use in mind

[@KineticConsulting]

Both have height adjustments. Just the arm on the 22 is longer for mask and goggle use.

[@Snozzelquaf]

@@KineticConsulting thank you kindly sir, they still 12 weeks turnaround at TNVC? We are ready to invest in pvs 14s. 3 months lead time is just hard to get over..

[@speedster-qe1nj]

Is the a mount that allows you to move the device farther away from your face then a g24? I have a device im trying to mount but I can't get it far enough away to work?

[@KineticConsulting]

G22 is a little longer

[@primitive8179]

Like 11 🌹

[@undertheeaves5974]

360p!

[@florian2911]

I made a J-arm that gives the L4G24 type mounts the same benefit as a invg : kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGO4dn59fal4mq8

[@KineticConsulting]

Dig it man

[@florian2911]

Les Fernandez the price is 80€ + shipping, most people I know don’t switch very often their eye, with the Wilcox for example I had to readjust it always to my other eye after I swapped

[@IrishPennant0311]

Where are my fellow Rhino Poors?

[@wherenowhow6037]

Rhino 2 with Dovetail Socket WAY MO BETTA mount that the Wilcox G24. The Rhino 2 Dovetail aint a poor mans mount. Its a smart mans mount. Some just don't know what they don't know. LOL Amazing the lack of true analysis seen out there.

[@ruination126]

Only had my rhino 2 for a short while, and while granted I dont have anything to compare it to, it seems pretty aight so far. Only thing that seems like an issue atm is how god damn high the pvs 14 sits when its stowed.

[@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13]

Rhino II for me.

[@Murderface666]

wilcox mounts arent worth the price

[@Djmode925]

What's your recommendation?

[@Murderface666]

@@Djmode925 One on sale of course lol

[@KineticConsulting]

They are absolutely worth the price. It's holding thousands of dollars to your head. Don't skimp is my recommendation

[@Murderface666]

@@KineticConsulting Not saying people should go for a AliExpress knockoff. The price doesnt justify the level of complexity when you can get/build an AR or especially buy a helmet more/less for nearly the same price. The pricing alone tends to be quite grotesque, especially based on the materials used, and the machining done is a mere fraction of the cost (try no more than 20% of the price).

[@Murderface666]

@Rocco Cardarelli I dont buy burgers. I know how to cook

[@Bowlbeans]

from someone in the military...... save yourself the extra couple hundred dollars you coulda spent on training, and just buy the og rhino mount plastic j arm you can buy that shit for like 80 dollars

[@operationbrokenarrow6964]

From someone in the military, No. The Wilcox arm is much much better and more dependable. You are mounting night vision which is expensive as is so why would you wan't to risk it a plastic j arm. Let's not forget this man was also in 75th so he was mil as well.

[@Bowlbeans]

@@operationbrokenarrow6964 im just trying to be helpful with people trying to get into night vision. dummy cords exist for a reason and on top of that like i said the whole point is to save the money you wouldve spent on an overpriced j arm and mount and instead spend that money on things like medical gear, ammo, training. its cool gear but worth the money? i wouldnt its cool when its free to use tho

[@operationbrokenarrow6964]

Alexander Andersen definitely worth the money. Night vision gives you a 1up on anyone not using it. Anyone spending money on night vision knows what’s up and their priorities. Wanna know something fun? Running through CCA’s with night vision on.

[@Bowlbeans]

@@operationbrokenarrow6964 im sure it is fun the point that im trying to get at is that the gear thats still issued isnt terrible and provides the same function at much lest cost, a pvs14 is a pvs14 the helmet and mounts dont make a huge difference so long as it fits properly and is adjusted before hand

[@operationbrokenarrow6964]

Alexander Andersen the mount and shroud definitely make a difference in strength, also profile size.