NIGHTWISH - Tuomas, Floor & Marco discuss Reality Music Shows (KERRANG! EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW)

Tuomas, Floor and Marco discuss reality Music shows like X Factor with Kerrang! Magazine.
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[@danisfan1588]

"Music is never a competition" Tuomas said everything that needed to be said about these competitions...

[@Angela-gn8vj]

Tuomas has such a deep and masculine voice....

[@sweiland75]

It's a shame that such intelligent thinking bands are not so popular.

[@DarkKnightofHeaven]

Have you seen their concerts in Europe. They aren't the most popular in the US (their a Finnish band) but they are titan in Europe (and Argentina their Buenos Aires show in 2012 was great). They've sold 7 million albums in total. They've gone platinum 30 times (In various countries for a single album.) their a world wide sensation the US just hasn't caught on.

[@lekalla]

@@DarkKnightofHeaven Over 10 million by now. They had sold 9 million in 2012 and after that there's been two studio albums, many live albums and DVDs plus compilation album. Also the old albums still sell.

[@JohnG228]

Just when I thought I couldn't like you guys any more, thanks.

[@stormyyxx]

I love them. That's exactly how I think too

[@elamanvetta1685]

StormyCruger It was good to hear someone in the music industry say this.

[@hansihobr]

What about now? after Floor has participaed on a Reality tv show competition?

[@katrinarickard2286]

It wasn’t a competition though. It was mainly about enjoying each other’s music and having fun playing music together.

[@hansihobr]

@@katrinarickard2286 But in the end it is still a competition where there is a winner at the end of the show, chosen as the best of the contest.

[@billattercliffe8655]

@@hansihobr Nope, as all them got one turn to 'win'. It was ultimately a sharing of music, for in the end, there was no prize and no winner.

[@josefo33]

Words of wisdom from true musicians. It's nice to share same thoughts with people that you admire and respect and that are from a different country but at the end Metal musicians and fans are the same no matter from which country you are from.

[@mdnblues]

01:30 and 01:40 - I really want to know what Marco is thinking in those moments, his expressions are hilarious.

[@aperson9847]

wow, those answers were so thoughtful. all the respect for these guys.

[@dylankrogers]

Its always nice to hear the band members' perspective on things.

[@klanggnomvideo--sound---pr2435]

yess nightwish hellyeah

[@shaunsurplus5346]

These people need to be promoted big time.

[@markez2896]

They did, largely thanks to Floor... but after her participation on a reality tv show :P , and along with a good edition of their new album.

[@billattercliffe8655]

@@markez2896 There's absolutely no comparison between "Beste Zangers" and "American Idol". The former is a delightful musical TV program and the latter is utter trash.

[@markez2896]

@@billattercliffe8655 The difference is that in American Idol only new or unknown singers participate, with only one winner and other chosen by the fans. Beste Zangers it's a gathering of famous dutch singers, which also have points and the judges are the participants themselves, but the difference is that there can be more than one winner.

[@billattercliffe8655]

@@markez2896 I know how these programs work, I don't require an explanation. The people who see Beste Zangers as some sort of competition are totally missing the point. They're seeing what they want to see, not what it is.

[@drowjack]

CLASS ACT GUYS

[@cerealytrigo]

Marco 😁😙

[@mysticaura24]

The guys are so fucking right, we all need to admit that. That was also, an attack to Tarja (she's a judge in The Voice of Finland)

[@RammmFan]

I just realized that there are faces in the mountain :D

[@Hitch-82]

wrong kind of entertainment for the masses...tuomas said all

[@jiraiyamon]

Man, it strikes me how poisonous is the sum of all this facts: 1.-The question of the interview. 2.- Their Answer (esp. tuomas). 3.- And the retarded comments of the people (which are the worst tbh.) 1.- The interviewer is obviously aware that both, tarja and anette are/were currently on finnish television and more precisely into that type of reality shows (The Voice and Tahdet Tahdet) the bait is on. 2.- Tuomas answer surprises me tho, most of us think the same of this shows YET it seems he has forgotten how eager he was to made it into the "eurovision" contest and whatever were his reasons back then, that format is no different to that of "the voice" or similars where the main goal sums into "recognizement and fame" as they put it. As for marco there's videos of him performing "Bad romance" into that type of shows, so he's obviously not that "against of" or at least not enough to go and make a public apa. perhaps he even got some profit of it. (And there it is.. the answer the interviewer was hoping, an honest heartfelt like answer, yet a passive aggressive statement towards their ex singers). 3.- "Slap in the face to Tarja! Ha...." the "fan wrote". Interview status: ACHIEVED.

[@TheAngelofDoubt]

Robsterry Amos yeah, interesting that he was so eager to compete in eurovision, whereas Tarja was relieved when they lost because she didn't want to be known for that. It does seem like the question was designed to be incendiary. But they do bring up pretty valid points.

[@jiraiyamon]

Shaolin Fon most of us think the same of this shows especially when the involve kids.. but like i said this is nightwish this runs deeper than "just an opinion about reality tv"

[@Bruno-yt8jr]

I don't know English very well , but Tuomas talked about 12 years girls sexually dancing? In Brazil it is infinitely worse !

[@marcelogavacoelhofilho7383]

Pode crer...triste né........

[@FullmetalHeart.1981]

Bruno Oliveira No, he said they were singing songs with sexual innuendos, sexual ideas/words. This is a huge problem here in the US too. And it's disgusting.

[@ecisjbucusj]

+MetalPersonJ LMAO

[@stefanl5183]

tuomas biggest problem was probably that they weren't saying those words directly to him. Anybody remember the lyrics to the song "Wish I had an Angel"? Refresh my memory, who was the pervert who wrote those? Anyway, this is par for the course for tommy boy, stand up on his moral high horse and throw bricks in other peoples direction when he doesn't even have his own house in order. He's a guy who loves throwing brick and at the same time lives in a glass house.

[@LittleVeni]

@@stefanl5183 Is Tuomas 12 year old? Is any member of Nightwish 12 year old? Do they play Wish I had an angel directly to kids? No. So shut up.

[@liandelangel]

Interesting topic to touch, considering Tarja is in The Voice of Finland.

[@vladescu3g]

i thought it was known by now that she is a gold digger

[@yomauser]

And now Floor participated in a Reality show singer competition...

[@coolschatten]

​@@yomauser it was more a show of already famous singers singing each other songs in there own Version not really a Competition just entertainment.

[@yomauser]

@@coolschatten But it's still a tv reality series with one or more winners at the end of the show. Although it is not a contest, there's nothing saying that the singer cannot prove how talented they could be in other genres. In Floor's case she wanted to show that metal is not only about satanic or dark themes, but she also challenged herself to know how versatile she could be, that's why she chose so different styles of songs and in languages she doesn't understand. Some may say that there's some kind of competence in that.

[@loj74fun]

@@yomauser Yoy really have no idea. It is not a competition. There are no winners. Out of respect they sing for eachother.

[@AndreSomers]

"Music is never a competition". Well, I guess EuroVision and more recently, Marko (winning Masked Singer Finland) disagree... It can be. But, it should always be about the music.

[@philipekberg436]

I want the cd on Spotify!!!

[@ezioauditore6038]

Based

[@phils866]

You can clearly see Marko's disillusionment with the music industry even back then. Sadly, that has led to him leaving Nightwish, and the music industry. Get well soon Marko and maybe, just maybe, we will see him back.

[@violetqween317]

I love floor !!! But I love singing but don't want the fame..if I do..I only want my fan to be the fishes from the deep blue sea and wild animal s.I away dream of a big monster coming out of the sea when I sing Oprah to the oceam

[@Luna_Anonymous]

Fame naturally comes in this business whether big or small it depends on how much the masses like you or you reach out to. Mostly people come into this business to show their talent to the world and offer what they have to the entertainment industry, to make a name for themselves and be remembered so what floor said is not exactly true cause with passion or talent the desire to get famous is also involved.

[@svartulv602]

one - two - three )) in Russian we're goess!!

[@cesargconde]

Marco participated in a music competition on TV, didn't he?

[@Piia2023]

César Galvão no

[@markez2896]

No, but Floor did it this year.

[@itsthequenchiest8606]

​@@markez2896 "Beste Zangers" isn't really a competition though. It's about a group of Dutch musicians that get together and get to know each other. Each episode revolves around one of them, and the other singers sort of honor them by covering a song of that person, or a song that means a lot to that person. There's no prize to win or anything. It's all about fun and respect, and simply enjoying music. I think it's an amazing concept and show. :)

[@taurusguy9305]

Floor joined the reality singing show Beste Zangers. Why?

[@loj74fun]

That is not a cmpetition. They bring together a few dutch singers for a couple of days so they are getting to know eachother. Then , out of respect , they sing for eachother. NO COMPETITION.

[@MetalPersonJ]

"never happen in the UK" .....Jimmy Saville?

[@billattercliffe8655]

Behind the cameras yes, not in front of them. These days, even behind the cameras would be difficult to pull off.

[@Luna_Anonymous]

Dont these musicians, actors or most of the people in general do what they do to become famous and be recognized by their talent?? Yes it is for passion but getting famous is also their goal. So what floor said that "if you want to be famous music is not the place for you" is actually wrong.

[@GregSBTheEagle]

+Black Shooter01 Yeah, maybe... But it's called modest, what she said...

[@evacody1249]

+Anony - Mouse Most people who get into music never become famous or they are very modest about it. That was Floors point. If you are getting into it because of the music great. If you are getting into it to be famous. Well I'm sorry but not ever one can be U2, or Elvia Presley. For most singers or bands they are lucky to even get a fan base in there own home town if even that. If they do then the best ones are those who are modest about it and are in it for the music. I will put to you this way. Kid Rock once said people want to be rock stars for the money and the girls. That's not really true if you are starting up a band like Nightwish, or Arch Enemy. They are starting it up for there love of music. If they get ever thing else that comes with it great. If not they are still doing what they love.

[@Alderbeck]

No I do not agree they do it for fame. Freedom is actually a price you pay for fame. Led Zeppelin said that they had a couple of albums out and they were the most famous group in the world but no one recognised them for a good while which was great while it lasted. The Beatles, the stones and many more took themselves off to the far east to escape the fame side. Some people have actually stopped what they love doing because they hated the fame aspect and some even committed suicide. The celebrity worshippers who try to sing or play to get FAMOUS are making a big mistake and that is what Floor is saying. Also there are a lot of singers and musicians who stated that they are not bothered that the fame went away, they just like making the music. Mark Knopfler is one.

[@stefanl5183]

"Dont these musicians, actors or most of the people in general do what they do to become famous and be recognized by their talent?? " Absolutely! And anyone who says otherwise is either extremely naive, has no understanding whatsoever of human nature, or is just a flat out liar. And as you hinted at, it's not just musicians and actors. Take sports for example, are the likes of Tom Brady and Peyton manning the result of simply loving to play football. Surely that's a necessity but is that all the motivation needed to compel someone to strive to reach that level of performance and excellence in what they do or does it take the extra motivation that comes from that dream of one day being the one who throws that superbowl winning pass that billions of people all around the world are watching and cheering about? Everyone wants to be recognized for their hard work and achievement and those who strive to be the best of the best want it even more and ultimately that's what motivates them to perform at the level necessary to achieve it.

[@hansihobr]

Of course any singer wants to be recognized, even Floor, by winning the Beste Zangers competition, later she posted that her name was the 3th most searched in the Dutch Google of 2019.

[@AlexDincht]

Why of course it's wrong to expose young people to songs about sex. And Nymphomaniac Fantasia and Passion And The Opera never happened.

[@AlexDincht]

***** Yes, and how old was the boy who read that “I'm afraid, I'm so afraid, being raped again and again and again” line on The Poet And The Pendulum? But hey, at least the label censored it, 'cause it would have been very awkward to have a child reading the “Would you like to rape my rotting carcass, dissect my heart and desecrate my rest? It would make you come, wouldn't it?” line from the demo version, wouldn't it? :)

[@FullmetalHeart.1981]

AlexDincht Actually, it sounded like Anette was reading that line to me. Wasn't she??

[@FullmetalHeart.1981]

***** I know that young boy sang the beginning part ("The end, the songwriter's dead...") but I always thought the part AlexDincht was talking about was whispered by Anette.

[@GayloriousQueen]

False equivalents. I mean, c'mon, the guy has so many weak points and that's the best you can do?

[@stefanl5183]

Is it really any surprise to anyone her tuomas is a hypocrite? Remember this is the man who fired a band member in an open letter making accusations of greed and selfishness and then s few years later was exploiting his bands name and image to pimp cheap wine at inflated prices. If Holopainen is not the Finnish word for Hypocrisy, it certainly should be!

[@stefanl5183]

tuomas Translation > "None of us got asked to be a judge on one of these shows, therefore we don't like them!" Floor translation > "I had to make it the hard way in this business. So, i'm bitter and jealous as hell of these ladies like Carrie Underwood who get to take a short cut by appearing on one of these shows. It just isn't fair, damn it." Folks, the bottom line here is this is entertainment. Music is entertainment. TV is entertainment. So, are most sport. Anything that's a spectator sport is entertainment. When Tom Brady throws that superbowl winning touchdown, does it generate any durable goods or captial? No, but it provides millions of people watching all around the world a memorable experience. That's what it's all about whether it's a song on a CD, a live performance, a football game, an automobile race, or even an appearance on a TV show. As Jon Bon Jovi said you wanna make a memory, You want to steal a piece of time. Or if you prefer the words of Shakespeare "All the world's a stage". tuomas certainly understands that as he wrote a huge drama play in October 2005 that played out for several years afterward and he certainly reaped financial benefit from it.

[@LittleVeni]

Wow. You really are still bitter that they kicked Tarja out. It's been 13 years. She wanted to go solo either way. Let it go.

[@TerranigmaQuintet]

@@LittleVeni gl on that, he will stay bitter till the end and push his silly agenda online till the end of times ( or in his case an era) :P

[@markez2896]

Floor got the recognition she wanted after winning Beste Zanger... ;)

[@billattercliffe8655]

@@markez2896 There was no winner on that show: there was no competition. It says a lot about you that you had to twist it that way.

[@markez2896]

@@billattercliffe8655 Yes there are points and winners on this reality, the difference was that in this edition three artists ended up with almost the same points compared to previous editions, with two or one winner.