How To Wire A Side Marker As A Blinker And Running Light Or Parking Light | NW Ep.45

[@thehofmeisters4379]

Great Video. I've been wanting to make my motorcycle's marker lights, also flash as turn signals, and now, I know how! And I also like the diagrams explaining how relays work.

[@NightWrencher]

Thank you very much! I appreciate it!

[@bronsonbradshaw2173]

I like the diagrams, it makes it easier to understand. Good job on the vid man.

[@NightWrencher]

Thanks a lot! I appreciate it!

[@SwedishHunter77]

Thats great explanation man. I was looking for a method can possibly make side markers work as turn signals at the same time, & Here we go. Thank You!

[@grogginess]

Thankyou for the video, I love how my Chrysler 300 has side marker indicators, and want to make this for my new car that does not have this. The diagram you show is perfect thanks 🎉🎉

[@forever_tipsy_7801]

Watched this 3 times finally got it thank you so much !

[@NightWrencher]

Thank you! Im glad it worked out!

[@DmitriMironov]

I will install this on my electric bike!!! Thanks a lot man❤🎉

[@whydahell3816]

The last few minutes is the straight forward explanation. Not complicated.

[@timothymarshall2722]

is there any way you could draw a diagram of how the setup would work without having the running ights on all the time by adding another relay?

[@asharnazeer359]

I am going to do this with my yaris hopefully it will work..thanks for the detailed video

[@NightWrencher]

Youre welcome!

[@adambenton3192]

Awesome thanks man

[@NightWrencher]

Youre welcome!

[@jimimacross6115]

😄😄"MAN!.."THANK YOU!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍✌

[@NightWrencher]

Youre welcome!

[@joealan1642]

Thanks, doing this myself, video really helpful

[@NightWrencher]

Thank you!

[@jasonbarnes2636]

This is very good. But how will it apply to those who is not doing a "new" wiring? Let's say they just want to add marker lights. Do they just tap the wire that connects to a marker or attach another relay? I hope my question is clear.

[@NightWrencher]

It depends. Some OEM modules cant handle the extra load from adding marker lights so you should use the wire that goes to your stock markers to power a relay and send power to your new marker light. Most old school systems that dont use modules you should be able to just tie into the stock stuff and run new wire to the markers you want to add.

[@jasonbarnes2636]

NightWrencher Thanks for the tip.

[@abjornjohnsen6627]

I have 1998 Chevy K1500, I have added holes and inserts for upper corner marking lights. I figured that the system was old enough that I should just be able to tap my new socket into the wires for the pre-existing lower corner socket light. However, all I ended up receiving was a steady orange light from both of them(them being the top and bottom of the left side) (though I only did the left side). Do you know if my issue is that I need a 3 pin power relay on each of my new lights (left and right)? I think that makes sense.

[@NightWrencher]

Im not too familiar with the newer squarebodies in terms of wiring but in the 90s the started switching to solid state modules in place of regular flashers. One work around I did on my 2014 ram was instead of wiring the new light directly to the harness. I added a 4 pin relay and pulled power for pin 85 off the lights positive wire, 86 to ground, 30 to battery and 87 to the new lights(in my case, fog lights) relays dont consume that many amps so modules seem to be unaffected by the extra tiny load added to the circuit.

[@abjornjohnsen6627]

@@NightWrencher awesome! Thanks for the quick reply my man! I will have to give it a shot and see what happens!

[@NightWrencher]

Good luck man!

[@2ride_along]

Awesome dude!!

[@Adventures_with_C_Los]

Just curious. the way you wired it up. since the orange wire is the wire that would originally go to your marker light, does your turn signal work without having your lights on? or was the orange wire for a daytime running light, meaning it always has power to it?

[@NightWrencher]

Very good question. In my current set up, the running lights and low beams are aways on. Id have to check my diagram to see if itll still work with the rest of the lights off since this is independent from the turn signals. The turn signals themselves still work like normal.

[@paulpeters3968]

Will this only flash when the marker light is powered on? It won’t flash if you just put the turn signal on?

[@NightWrencher]

Thats right. Since its a marker light and not a DRL, it wont have any power while the lights are off, but you can add another relay to bypass the light switch so it can blink while its off

[@Yipcanjo]

Thanks for a great video! I found you while trying to make my motorcycle running lamp (passing lamp in HD vernacular) be running all the time, but then become my turn signal when needed. I feel like I'm just about there, since I can make the light steady OR blink using the relay, but I can't so far do both. I have five wires coming from stock -- POS1 and GRND for the running lamp, and then POS2, GRND and SIGNAL for the signal lamp. On the relay, I have POS1 at 3, SIGNAL at 2, GRND to 1, and then 4 and 5 going to the positive on my bulb. Hooked up that way, I have my lamp running all the time, but no signal when activated. When I swap 2 and 3, I have no constant lamp, but it does signal when activated. What on earth am I missing?

[@NightWrencher]

Hey man, thats a weird light. Usually theyre only 3 wires and you can set the low filament to running light and high filament to blinker and they would both share the same ground wire. Do you by chance have the stock wiring diagram?

[@Yipcanjo]

@@NightWrencher Well, I'm basically consolidating two lights into one. The bike typically has (on the front) a headlight, two passing lamps, and two turn signals. I'm trying to remove the physical turn signal and make the passing lamp steady when normally operating, and then blink when the signal is activated. So....3 is constant power, and 2 is signal/blinking, correct? If so, doesn't that mean that 4 is typically activated (running light) but switches to 5 when 2 gets a signal, right?

[@NightWrencher]

Ok, I see what you mean. By 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, you mean the pin #s on my ford relay right? The thing is, you would have to have the maker side of the light circuit on at all times will the bike is running or it wont work. If you want the turn signal to work while the marker light is off, you'll need to add a second relay that bypasses the first relay in order to feed the turn signal while the marker light is off

[@Yipcanjo]

@@NightWrencher Yep, I'm using the Ford numbers... to keep it simple. But, yes, I'm having the light constantly on, aside from when it's "signaling".

[@NightWrencher]

Oh ok, makes sense. So the light is a 2 wire light right?

[@cnq7949]

Thanks for the vid ! I’m wondering if you can help me bro . My turn signals only work properly when my lights aren’t on . When I turn my lights on and turn the turn signals on , the front ones will work but the back lights will flash like if the had turned on the emergency lights . Also when I hit the brakes they stop working at all . Another thing I noticed is when I turn on and off my lights on I gear a click noise by the stick to change wears. Do you know what the problem might be ? Thanks again

[@NightWrencher]

I don't know about your exact problem but it sounds like it could all be related. There has to be a point where all the wires intertwine like a module or the steering column or a relay box. Figure out where that is and I'm sure you'll find your issue

[@cnq7949]

All of it has to do with the my turn signals . I think I might have something to the with the relay or flasher. Maybe a grounding issue . Is there ground in the trunk area . Thanks for the reply i appreciate it

[@NightWrencher]

Every model is different but usually there is a ground stud somewhere in the trunk. You need to find a wiring diagram for your specific car and go through all the power and ground points to find your issue

[@cnq7949]

Again thanks man . I appreciate it!

[@jaspaldhunna2395]

What to do if I already have a dual filament turn signal and want to make my single filament side marker blink with it as well as stay on running light.

[@NightWrencher]

You will have to wire in the relay to the dim side and power it with the turn signal wire to open the circuit and turn the running light off if that makes sense

[@jaspaldhunna2395]

@@NightWrencher yes makes perfect sense, but then it would alternate? Is there any way so both blink at the same time.

[@NightWrencher]

The only way to do that would be IF your flasher does not have constant 12v. You would splice into the wire before your flasher that would energize your relay to interupt the signal to your running lights. Its the only way that I know. If your flasher has constant 12v it wont work.

[@jaspaldhunna2395]

@@NightWrencher would using diodes be an option? Run negative of the single elemant to negative of dual. Run power of the single element to both the running and flasher of the dual element with 2 diodes. On my mustang when i turn the flasher it cuts of the dimmer.

[@NightWrencher]

If you can draw that out and send it to my instagram @thenightwrencher so I could check it out.

[@TheGuyFromDenmark95]

So I did what you have done, following the diagram, but I have done it for my trailer. But something os off, marker lights turn on, but they dont blink, eventhough the relay clicks. Doest it matter that the lights i am using is LED? If i remove all relay action, just hook up the blinker wire to either White wire on led and the the Black to constant 12v (igbition on), it works. Kinda. The blinking is opposit of the car, so when car blinks, marker turns off and when the car blinker is not lighting up the marker light is lid.... Do you know how to get them synchronized?

[@reulingue8151]

Hello. I got a 5-pin relay, but it has other numbers. Instead of 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, the numbers are 30, 85, 86, 87 and 87a. Is it the same relay? If so how do I convert his numbers to those shown in the video? tnks

[@NightWrencher]

Only Ford uses 1 2 3 4 5. The standard way of numbering the relay is 30, 85, 86, 87, and 87a. 85 and 86 are your coil windings 30 is your main power input and 87 and 87 a are the outputs. If you wire 85 to battery positive and 86 to ground the relay should click

[@reulingue8151]

Ok, I'll try this, thanks

[@calvertwalters5570]

@@NightWrencher 86 is + 85 is -

[@NightWrencher]

85 is the trigger power from switch +, 86 is trigger relay - , 30 is battery +, 87 goes to whatever you want to power on. You van reverse 85 and 86 or 30 and 87 and it should still work

[@lestheindependentunlesslik6882]

I have a big truck and the blinker is blinking low beam and the running light is bright do I have my wires crossed

[@NightWrencher]

Sounds like you do. If you know which is the ground wire, swap the other 2 wires.

[@lestheindependentunlesslik6882]

NightWrencher thanks I do know which is ground I will try tomorrow thanks again

[@auggieitisarellano7645]

This usually happens when you buy the wrong bulbs. On bulbs with dual fillaments some have them switched. So just because you see a bulb has 2 fillaments doesnt mean its the same as yours, you have to buy the corresponding number for your car, if you dont know for sure, just google it and double check that you are using the correct bulbs. For example honda uses 1157 bulbs, but if you put these bulbs on a chevy you will get the effect you mentioned

[@VTWINWILLY]

So what happens when you turn the running lights off. That kills the power supplied to pin 3, and thus, no marker or blinking light. Am I looking at this correctly? Update: I gave it some thought, and it seams to me if you inserted a diode between pin2 and pin 3 - that only allows current to flow from pin 2 to pin 3 - the flasher would work whether the running lights are on or off. Would also need a diode coming from your running light circuit to pin3 to prevent the blinker circuit from pushing power back to all the running lights. Hmmmm . . . I may have to test that.

[@NightWrencher]

I do think you are right, the diagrams I made are only for side markers that are normally only running lights to work as a blinker so they wouldn't actually work if there's not power to them. You can add a second circuit with another relay that feeds the blinker light while the running light is off and then switches to a running light/blinker when the running lights turn on. Let me know how it turns out!

[@gregorydacosta3580]

But how would you run a circuit like that thou .....

[@seanlannon7738]

Saying "this wire" over and over again is very confusing. I have it wired up and working on a numbered 30/87 pin relay. but how can i switch back and forth, with out having to turn the lights on, to make the blinkers work.

[@NightWrencher]

You would have to add a second relay to feed it power from the blinker and then the relay would be energized by the running lights bypassing the circuit and feeding your turn signals bypassing the extra cicuit you made. Its a little confusing without being able to draw it out on a piece of paper but thats basically how itll work.My lights are on all the time as DRLs so I didnt need to add the second circuit.

[@ryanmedows6072]

Do i need 2 relays?

[@Marcus_Woodard]

How would that work when the hazards are on?

[@NightWrencher]

You would have to wire in a seperate circuit

[@jerreplace6850]

@@NightWrencher I have the same question. This was so helpful btw. Where would the separate circuit be? Would it be it’s own 5 pin relay with all wires for the lights going through it after the flasher, and also install one flasher to this relay the same way you show here? Thanks

[@TheJonasbz]

There is one mush more easier way to this, just take the ground wire from the signal light and connect that one to positive on the parking light and its done, no relays or anything, it will work

[@NightWrencher]

Wont that dim the lights too?

[@TheJonasbz]

@@NightWrencher nope

[@TheJonasbz]

@@NightWrencher It works like this, when the turning light is "on" and give +, the bulb get + from 2 ways and theres no light but when the turning is "off" it get ground from that and the light is on so the turning lights works backwards and when you drive with just park light or whatever they will work as usual, exept the ground comes from the turning light, kinda the same way the charging light works

[@TheJonasbz]

This means that the turning light will work without the park lights on couse then it works as it was from the start

[@bigbadad]

@@TheJonasbz but that is assuming you have separate park and indicator lights. The purpose of this video by @nightwrencher is to have an indicator and sidelight with ONE bulb.

[@brendanconlon2483]

This will only work if your running lights are on

[@livinonlimiter]

So, essentially, I need two flashers? One for each side of the vehicle?

[@NightWrencher]

Yes exaclty. If you wire them on 1 flasher, it would be like your hazards are on. If you want to make your hazards work you cab use a STDT switch to bypass the column and power up both relays at the same time, making your hazards turn on

[@ronnielefler9490]

Can you share the part number of the relay?

[@NightWrencher]

Theres a lot of different manufactures but the Standard Ignition brand # is RY116.

[@joecnc3341]

Dude - the relay has pins 30, 85, 86, 87, and 87A - NOT 1-2-3-4-5

[@NightWrencher]

Factory ford relays are 1-2-3-4-5

[@JoelPit]

Why not use the numbers on these relays rather than your own numbers

[@NightWrencher]

Those are the numbers on the relay. Its a ford relay, thats how they are.

[@JoelPit]

@@NightWrencher wow really Ford just had to make their own version

[@vvvdog200]

FIRST WHAT IS A LUM

[@NightWrencher]

I have no idea 😅

[@TheChrislanderos1991]

It’s loom, a plastic hose to protect the wire. Used to make harness.

[@MrMigueleduardo99]

That's a little bit too complicated to understand. There are for sale modules on eBay that are way easier to install and use. Some lets you change brightness, turn it off etc... US Blinker Module on ebay ;)

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

I work with relays and all sorts of vehicles, this video is so bad.

[@Slo_boat]

Why?

[@AztecWarrior69_69]

@@Slo_boat Why what?