NIGMA vs SECRET - INCREDIBLE GAME - BEYOND EPIC DOTA 2

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NIGMA vs SECRET - INCREDIBLE GAME - BEYOND EPIC DOTA 2

[@DaveeeDavee]

I watched game 2 live and boy i tell you, how Nigma dodged every single fight Secret wanted to take when they hit their power spike was absolutely amazing. The way W33, GH and MC manage to delay their pushes, cutting their waves, forcing rotation and creating tons of space for Miracle without getting caught was genius. Game 2 was not filled with action until Miracle came online but how they play around it was a treat to watch.

[@ashlike270]

They just had to wait for Miracle to come online and it was over before you know it.

[@odyupodyuo9730]

Also love it how they switch mc on mid after they saw pl mid... Thought they lost in first 20 min then there is miracle am farming it was gg

[@Natsugrey08]

they are always like that when in disadvantage. letting miracle take his time. then boom!

[@DaveeeDavee]

@@ashlike270 they have to response to lane pushes while Miracle just farming away uncontested. The kind of game every anti mage wish for.

[@HumanSagaVault]

true, nice observations there.

[@solomonthegreat290]

I found the reason why there's a pattern like this: OG < Secret Nigma < OG Secret < Nigma OG lose to Secret, because of Agent.Midone Nigma lose to OG, because of Agent.Miracle Secret loss to Nigma, because of Agent.MATUMBAMAN

[@okcool8576]

Noice

[@mh8186]

Mindblown

[@esquireedilbertiimarcelino2199]

Now that's accurate.

[@usuitakumi8673]

underrated comment 🤣

[@WiraSuryawan]

Its 3 way deadlock OG>Nigma>Secret>OG.....

[@rizkyansyahaditya6726]

Why the hell everyone just props miracle and not w33? I get it he's the mvp of game 2 and his AM gameplay is so good, but w33 deserve some love too on game 1

[@syedzul9123]

yes you right..idk why evryone hate weeha

[@Kai01716]

I love weeha his hero pool and his gameplay is insane

[@yudhanugraha6956]

Bcs their beloved matu placed 14/15th at ti9, and in their bracket (2k) everyone flaming,blamin swearin on the midlaner if they lose the game

[@mh8186]

True

[@keerthivasank9563]

bro w33 is only playing properly this since he started playing bat (past 2 weeks) before that our man use to fck up mid so bad that since Ti, i have hardly seen him stomp mid or make cool plays dont worry if he performs consistently everyone will be able to appreciate him

[@jpao1834]

Still no love for w33 in Game 1, but if Nigma loses? All the blame goes to him lol. Oh well, ggwp.

[@georgeyorgos5409]

no one contest his meepo. no one dares. but on other then meepo he is questionable on a bad day.

[@jpao1834]

@@georgeyorgos5409 Give credit where credit is due. It's like a double standard. If Miracle played bad, no one bats an eye, everyone gives him a pass. But if it was w33? He's like crucified a hundred times lol.

[@defithefuture7621]

@@jpao1834 milagre tem história.

[@mr.screenshot9452]

It’s because it’s a meepo hero i guess

[@Milesplowher]

He did good even in game 2. he got caught a few times and people say he sucks. Agreed 100% he is an underrated player. Maybe its just because that one time he got caught cheating, stigmas live with you forever. Kinda like Dendi and Pudge.

[@loristnorton3723]

For me the highlights of Game 2 was how Nigma gave space to miracle, the creep cuts from everyone (even kuro with the fatal bonds) was just on point the map awareness and their ability to take orange and green camps was just top tier to me. If PL just took eva instead of atk spd as talent he might have survived some of those fights. They just drain his mana. And he can't do anything.

[@fauziramadhan4825]

I watch the game live, i thought nigma were done in 15 minutes but somehow they manage to hold the game until 30 minutes

[@WinterSnowism]

Think they picked all creep cutting heroes for Miracle

[@tontunbellAngel]

tanayos21

[@tnhan6380]

They can do it because of Mirana pick. It’s a good pick from Kuro

[@genelee1711]

Weeha's batrider constantly saying "WEEEHAAAA"

[@HKLee815]

w33's kitting and baiting is the only reason they can comeback in game2,he almost created a universe for am's farm

[@ashlike270]

The space created by Nigma to Miracle was so good actually. It wasn't highlighted as Miracle killing everyone is what really matters at the end but damn the space creation was so underrated.

[@Natsugrey08]

watch some of their videos. they always giving miracle space when in disadvantage. and its a good thing.

[@felizia129]

sooo underrated. even Miracle says that he doesn't feel like he's the carry. because most of the time, he is the one being carried. :)

[@fckmself6668]

nigma always wanted to play like og's ana gameplay

[@hazwanjaidey8314]

@@fckmself6668 nigma won ti 7 this way fyi, way before og won their t.i

[@spatacuz001]

fckmself 666 FYI ... Miracle is one of the best player who is good at 4protect1 strategy since he was with Notail in Monkey Business Team because he is more reliable than other players when it come to late game decision making.

[@alikamali4174]

That game 2....... Man it was an honor of a game to watch! Nigma of this series wasnt what i expected I expected tier 3 I see kings of lower bracket GG

[@danar6848]

thats nigma for you. shut down haters

[@ZALYVES]

@@danar6848 Now they are part of the 0-3 loss club

[@alijahandideh3442]

5:08 kuroky boss teaches a lesson.

[@datdude2470]

Finally he teach some lesson after such a garbage performance so far and not even qualified for Los Angeles major. GG kuro

[@alijahandideh3442]

@@datdude2470 ur kind never understand the true meaning of dota...

[@royk7712]

When nigma lose w33 suck When nigma win Ofc its miracle .... Poor w33

[@charirtaqqi2606]

Sad W33

[@Judas08]

@Muhammad Haiqal A lot of game. Meepo had 89% win rate with w33haa.

[@mrsquadbot]

Everyone ask why w33, but no one ask how is w33?

[@n00bKen]

w33 meepo is really amazing

[@CurrentlyOffliner]

Well he literally replaced Matu was Matu getting any praise ? Barely when he solo wins the game with brood but peoples were so quick to say hes shit when Liquid lose now team Name changed to Nigma and player name changed to W33 it's a same thing since 2017 lol.

[@nailunnaufal9139]

15:34 blink timing so good. Grats to Nigma, they have so good chemistry. I love w33 since he's in secret and Miracle in OG. At the old times, when i see w33 againts Miracle face to face on mid it's always be interesting match. Imagine both in the same team was my dream 😄

[@militaryaddict9935]

asli dua dua nya fav

[@FPachO-ty6cd]

his timing was off nisha fucked up, he was still x marked, he for sure tricked nisha's mind to force that bad play but not that sick tbh.

[@cobanich]

Zai successfully triggers Miracle- Super Saiyan mode.

[@2tangosor2mid98]

@ussef libaton miracle was lagging then he paused the game. Zai said on chat all "miss cs = lag"

[@justarya6265]

@@2tangosor2mid98 KASIH DETIK NYA COK

[@justarya6265]

Mau liat wkkwkww

[@2tangosor2mid98]

@@justarya6265 gak ada di sana, di menit awal game 2, pas score sekitar 1-1

[@thebubblegum5175]

LOL miss cs = Lag, miracle be like" hold my AM, u gonna lose 😂😂"

[@kaykay9771]

I like how Nigma build their items to support 1 core, just like w33 meepo get his all of the core item while the rest getting sub support item like greaves and vlad, even on pos 2 3, and the opposite while miracle am get his item, the rest get his sub support items. Well done, Nigma finally link up their play style.

[@walktrust8502]

bro, nigma is always like that. 4 protect 1 from ti7 when they were still liquid

[@lokanantazain]

@@walktrust8502 but on these 2 games they know who to prioritize

[@Sai-sc1gh]

Whut??, Theyve done that on liquid too and OG, OG beat that line up.

[@halogais611]

15:33 god dodging the xmark and boat

[@jpniemand7926]

Love this team to much. So many hatters with Dip they had. But they are sooo good.

[@qweaszful]

They are good and a joy to watch but somehow when they play og always is like their team just gets countered

[@razulsamad7254]

@@qweaszful just believe in them i know their smart

[@mcrisare]

@@qweaszful they become hot headed when in comes to OG thats why Og alway outplayed them.

[@indramanurung988]

@@qweaszful OG analyst Division is very good dude. They always bring a paper to the battle room. Haha...

[@limhecalao7818]

They dont have so much haters, they always hate cuz of bad play of w33ha and kuro drafts thats why

[@Elven10]

Miracle:He is my friend(for w33ha) Matu: So was i.... :D

[@iamthefwordgaming3165]

That is iron man and cap line.. i really hate iron man in that movie..

[@soreyhyiplover3362]

Miracle dodge the boat with blink is so LIT

[@faisalambiya6459]

Wow finally a team that beat Secret! GGWP Nigma!

[@Lrespect14]

@neel bullet read my name

[@noctrin9760]

@@Lrespect14 damn

[@rrrigil]

Secret no TI since TI5 never win TI since its made.

[@siddharthjoshi5264]

@neel bullet lol..cry kid..nigma is the only team who can fuck chinese teams at TI..secret gonna get rekt and secret can only win against nigma if nigma wants them to win.cry kid

[@lamperouge7347]

@@Lrespect14 got em

[@abdelaziz651]

Patiënt sonic waves from Mc were so good.

[@harshwardhanparkale]

Nigma defeats secret Secret defeats OG OG defeats Nigma Great trio of kicking each other's ass

[@SaltNaCl]

Rock paper scisors right?

[@dzk6714]

and than Secret 3-0 anyone in the finals again lol

[@joshuanobel1879]

@@dzk6714 and then choking at tea eye

[@dzk6714]

@@joshuanobel1879 they are so good that people expect them to win everything , if 4th place is considered choke lmao

[@mrsquadbot]

Balanced, as everything should be

[@SnekNOTSnake]

When NoobFromUA posted Nigma vs Secret with "Incredible Game" in the title, but Nigma wins Haters: CONFUSED SCREAMING

[@aldairnwn4405]

Hahaha

[@richardusedward1475]

Screaming in pain

[@azsntgz073]

Its nigma fangay channel

[@phervil2774]

? this channel its nigma fanboy since miracle went to liquid... they always types this type of titles when his favorite team wins a rough one but when they lose or get humiliated they dont writte anything else, just like the last 7 times that secret destroyed them or the last 17 times OG humiliated nigma, on any of those they didnt write "incredible" not even on ti9 finals.

[@SnekNOTSnake]

@@phervil2774 Ever heard of word "Delusion"?

[@procheck9220]

Zai : "Miss CS = Lag?" Miracle: "Hold my Battle Fury.."

[@renson9219]

Can u explain bro, what the meaning miss cs, i dont understand bro, is it mean missing last hit or what ?

[@dartz379]

@@renson9219 cs=counter spell

[@leonardvalencio582]

@@renson9219 cs = creeps, miss cs= miss creeps = miss Last Hit

[@renson9219]

Counter spelll or creeps -_-

[@lordfu9476]

@@leonardvalencio582 cs = creeps socres , not only creeps ...

[@ntinosdalvavanis5222]

17:15 was the cleave through lancer's illusion, distance from uphill was close enough!

[@pr_ank_sisters]

Nigma > Secret > OG > Nigma It's basically rock paper scissors.

[@shaarnesshchandran6471]

No secret also win against nigma

[@elvinclaros3134]

Shaarnessh Chandran yeah you can stfu

[@CurrentlyOffliner]

Nigma > OG never happened tho so its invalid. Secret > OG > Nigma > Secret here you go

[@sweetestsight]

@@CurrentlyOffliner nigma lost on this same group stage few days ago vs OG 2-1

[@TanTan-ir9xh]

hi :)

[@lyonvensa]

I love the fact that in both games, W33 and Miracle is like taking turns to carry the team. W33's Meepo was devastating in game 1, then Miracle's AM returned the favor in game 2. both are last picks too, and it seems to catch Secret by surprise.

[@bimoadi2662]

Nigma>Secret Secret>OG OG>Nigma Nice triangle

[@dingydingfood]

Kinda of true

[@elikfirsla2453]

NIGMA just chokes vs OG every time , they tilt, i think its mental thing

[@rahmat3955]

@@elikfirsla2453 MC mostly got tilted, die back, bad pos, and OG know beside miracle, MC was the Man of game in early minute to mid game, MC was the maestro And always see his pub, he always got high death than kill

[@felizia129]

@@rahmat3955 true. even b8 players tipped MC at the start of each game. that should tell us something. he tilts the most.

[@gobchi5588]

just luck they win at secret

[@alphonsecatan2]

So no one's gonna talk about that dodge in @15:34

[@dnalyerruiz8098]

Yeah that timing

[@itsmaxieb0044]

he didnt dodge it. kunkka x marked him back a little late. like a split second.

[@MiracleOfShuffle]

@@itsmaxieb0044 but can you see miracle stop his first blink to make nisha got wrong timing

[@qweasd-lm3kc]

@@MiracleOfShuffle it doesn't matter whenever AM blink. the thing is nisha need to timing his x-mark with the ship's landing

[@memotinto]

2 persons 2 signature heroes

[@Judas08]

Yep, both of them aren't a person. They're GOD with that hero

[@SourthernerPilgrim]

idk man, but isnt miracle signature hero is SF?

[@hujanmeteor]

@Mazuyak its in DotA, and in DotA 2 miracle SF is only on his early days

[@keriT0]

@Mazuyak in DotA but in dota2 I think it's VG.paparazzi

[@solomonthegreat290]

Miracle signature is Ember? No man, when Miracle plays Ember I always remember the biggest upset in DotA history

[@nitesh14able]

Never ever let miracle free farm that too on his signature hero😂😂 goood game

[@ZuyuStudio]

And dont forget thank to her teammates creating space for him

[@bikoyumnamaram3342]

@@ZuyuStudio you mean miracle is girl?

[@alijahandideh3442]

@@bikoyumnamaram3342 I think it is about AM persona!

[@nitesh14able]

@@ZuyuStudio well looks like you have watched only the highlights....let me tell you...wee haa's batrider was constantly dying and team secret were making early rotations and was leading with kills and networth.....they even try to ganked AM but AM uses the 3rd skill and blink out of it....No X mark nothing... AM was pushing waves upto the tier 2 tower and TPing back to the jungle. Meanwhile weehaa's batrider wasted his 10 and 9sec bkb just to avoid x mark without indulging into any fight. So you see Secret try hard to take down AM but couldnt do so....Kuro's warlock was exceptionally brilliant. So miracl's AM made space all by himself....there wasnt any 5v5 teamfight unless miracle had bf, manta and basher. So your comment makes no sense

[@ZuyuStudio]

@@nitesh14able wow arhcon anylisis

[@miaw9097]

4:52 nice 322

[@chikuman6224]

ya right! it is shady...maybe the bet money 🤔

[@rengienasibug9442]

Remember Liquid vs TNC? They avoided most teamfights to create space for my boi - Miracle.

[@M1dKnight1am]

8:55 The MiracLUL moment you’ve all been waiting for.

[@elvinclaros3134]

Your secret lost? You can cry now

[@audiemaesakenta3250]

MantumbaLuL

[@EuthoriaMusic]

I think that moment was funny for me, miracle get bursted for 2 second was hillarious

[@yameteonichann6185]

Haha 😂 2:0😆😆😆😆

[@markuganiza3786]

15:32 oh boyy, what a dodge by miracle..

[@tnhan6380]

MARK it’s not a dodge man, AM blink but X-mark take him back, Nisha just too panic so his x- mark late 2 milliseconds when boat stuns.

[@chinubokil]

Is TI around ? Then why secret is choking?

[@DrinkWater713]

Nigma played a marvelous match. Give them credit

[@fauziramadhan4825]

Because matumbaman is a spy for nigma

[@mrsquadbot]

Agent Matu at your service

[@aidilmubarock5394]

Lmao

[@aerene445]

@@mrsquadbot now i know why nigma always lose against OG. Agent miracle 😂

[@secreightcreatorspace]

Every time batrider killed someone, the voice line always got me laugh 🤣🤣 "wee haaaaa"

[@procheck9220]

15:30 did miracle just dodge the X + Boat with a blink ???

[@rainkahve]

Yea pretty good isn't it

[@minagahci1797]

yepyep

[@itsmaxieb0044]

no. he called am back a millisecond too late.

[@limpeh845]

Nope, nisha's boat was late

[@marianneliseth8133]

the next level play

[@caiosilvafigueiredo526]

It's funny how people are so quick to call w33 noob and say how stupid nigma was to swap matu for him, even here in the comments l see a lot of talk about game 2 and how miracle carried hard (and was amazing tho), but what about a 19/1 meepo? Did anyone saw that?

[@bsbs3055]

Lol.. Funny

[@akinaridate9233]

Because people stupiid, they dont understand dota2, dota 2 is not about solo carry, its 5vs5, i think the reason kuro pick w33 not because matu playing bad, but with matu they only have 4 make space and let miracle farm strat,but with w33 its different talk, they can play other strategy because w33 have good signature mid,see in game 1 they use draft 5vs5, and game 2 4man make space and 1 farm..

[@ame5825]

Most of the comments actually praising the team instead of Miracle dont know what you're talking about

[@akinaridate9233]

@@ame5825 see other video when nigma lose bro

[@Zerkier]

love see game 2 , the kite really amazing

[@therepublic3404]

My boi w33 is coming back, i remember when he's in Dc he plays really good.

[@hendrawanlaksono9186]

Kick w33!! Oh wait... M-GOD!!!

[@waitwhat1964]

Nigma in game 2 did really good job. The teamwork, strategies done so well

[@banano5174]

Secret on TI mode OMEGALUL

[@loristnorton3723]

It's that time of the year too.

[@ГеоргийЧайковский-ь8ч]

From top 16 to top 6 at best, lol. Nothing new.

[@ultrainstinct962]

Yeah after secret won 5 streak tour, LIGMA fangay just came out after secret lost 1 match in this tour..win this tour 1st then bark yeah..🔥🔥

[@banano5174]

@@ultrainstinct962 TI = 50 MAJORS

[@ultrainstinct962]

@@banano5174 so?wht happen to ur LIGMA,even cant win single tour?yikes,then bark after secret lost 1 match?this is how u prove ur LIGMA really good?u talk bout TI at another tour,so whats ur point..did ur LIGMA already won ti??

[@WiraSuryawan]

OG, Secret, Nigma are like 3 Deadlock... OG>Nigma>Secret>OG. So fun to watch em

[@gypsymonk727]

Miracle- dodging the x-mark + boat combo was sick af.

[@Sai-sc1gh]

@@faizan-1410 yup!! He xmark him early, if its perfect, AM cant dodge it, i think u can do it with blink dagger.

[@systemeltdown]

It has always facinated me that Secret is the meeting point of so many amazing dota players to ever touch the game. Here let me give you some names of all who have played for Puppey from when Secret began in 2014: KuroKy (C) s4 (C) RTZ BigDaddy Notail(C) Zai W33 Misery UNiverse Bulba EternalEnvy Aui_2000 (C) pieliedie MidOne MP Yapzor KheZu Ohaiyo(C) Fata Ace Nisha 1437 Matu ANDDDDDDmy man DENDI (As temp)(C) Hate them, but you cannot deny these are some of the best players in the world. LOVE THE GAME and STOP THE TOXICITY edit: added captains (C), correct as far as i remember.

[@alone2break]

Misery, bulba, 1437 are all captains..

[@spatacuz001]

Have u ever heard captain EE SAMA ? LoL

[@GilangRamadhan-03]

This proves that puppey loves kicking people.

[@Allen-e1p5r]

Finally, nigma realizes how to beat secret. Just ban matu’s heroes and anyone can win 😂😂 hahaha

[@ГеоргийЧайковский-ь8ч]

Chek International periods 2017-2019, lol. Nigma or Og not even try to play on 50% of they real power in seasons.

[@triannoviandi788]

@@ГеоргийЧайковский-ь8ч what do you mean

[@nyawawarik7624]

@Jason Lee before ti7 liquid won epicenter and dremleague tournmant Beforr ti8 they won supermajor

[@lv9855]

@Jason Lee calm down, this is only group stage

[@วศินนีรนาทรังสรรค์]

@@lv9855 He cant calm down bcuz he stayed in his cave for 5 tours.Ahahaha

[@VashTheTyphonicStampede]

Everybody a gangsta until AM farms his core items and start rekting

[@royk7712]

everybody gangsta until w33ha pick meepo

[@flakeyzai3856]

Matu: okay I don’t know meepo, kick me was right

[@mohamadrauzan6400]

Game 2 Miracle : how big should i go ? Kuro : ..... Miracle : ez

[@stefansanityy]

That Zai chat was the highlight of this series for me. KEKW 😂

[@cando_jo]

which minute?

[@ashlike270]

@@cando_jo check the full game, game 2 when they paused early game because Miracle- was lagging.

[@bsbs3055]

Ya zai chen 3-0 niggma

[@rda9694]

6:41 fatal bonds make nigma logo

[@Ark--fn8my]

Why didn't you include the "miss cs= Lag?"

[@rnGPandaa]

Jason Lee Miracle replied with good spirit and everyone tipped him. It's Secret and Nigma man they're so close

[@qayyumkurosaki924]

@Jason Lee lol why so much hate? it look funny to me when pro player chat in game 😂

[@bananaenjoyer123]

@@rnGPandaa ur saying both nigma n secret tips miracle?

[@onevoiceonelife]

@Jason Lee It's just banter man. Take it lightly

[@tzu4285]

@Jason Lee no , it's just a friendly banter , they're a really good friend outside of tournaments

[@AxLz7]

Oh i love watching miracle signature supercarry AM 😍

[@behruz5231]

"W33 doesn't get enough love". Guys everybody who knows the game appreciates w33, don't don't worry.

[@keerthivasank9563]

bro w33 is only playing properly this since he started playing bat (past 2 weeks) before that our man use to fck up mid so bad that since Ti, i have hardly seen him stomp mid or make cool plays dont worry if he performs consistently everyone will be able to appreciate him

[@behruz5231]

@@keerthivasank9563 i am watching him since he was in the secret, i watched him in ti6 with DC, he is one of the best players. every body fails time to time. shit happens

[@notoriousfool4498]

15:33 that boat dodge

[@dzk6714]

finally Nigma stepping up. Hope we see a new winner this tournament . I love Secret but its getting boring...

[@akinaridate9233]

Nigma stepping up? I think u wrong man,, they always top team trust me,, secret is best team no doubt, but when nigma lose everyone blame kuroky draft and w33 mid,, but i dont say they lose because nigma saving strat or whatever but they lose because try to play aggresive play style because they know they cant always win with same strat,in this game they show how they learn and win like nigma,, just see other game how they lose and you will know they learning..

[@huehuehue1390]

@@akinaridate9233 yup, if you come up with new strategy you gotta play with it, either the result lose or win.

[@bsbs3055]

Lol same script same winnrer same score

[@taz3606]

5:09 kuro wow

[@Diolusion]

Think secret need to play a trilane vs Nigma forever now, Miracle + farm = gg

[@humblegod13]

Giving Miracle AM.. 🔥🔥🔥

[@blackwizard6601]

15:36 It took me a while, until i realized something, This Antimage can dodge X mark Ship with blink. Wow

[@nguyenminhat9374]

He didnt dodge it. Kunkka missed his combo

[@renalnes]

It wasn't a dodge. Nisha fucked up.

[@thebubblegum5175]

if u look carefully am not dodge that x mark. after he blink, he comback to x mark spot. that actually nisha miss calculate the ship for a few second

[@blackwizard6601]

@@thebubblegum5175 wow okay, thanks dude at first i think this antimage doing great thing, but yeah, this kunka miss his x mark ship

[@marcusTLive]

Lesson learned, Never give miracle AM hahaha

[@francisruiz5930]

When nigma lose all hates on the w33ha and kuro but when secret lose nothing .-.

[@Judas08]

That's a typical haters job who don't watch from draft till the end.

[@gobchi5588]

'cause they suck

[@fauzanadrian1593]

because nigma fangay is used when they beat secret 3 times in a row at TI including matu who is secret carry btw,so yeah they dont give a damn about secret.

[@rahulghosh5366]

13:23 zai could have saved Matu, he had swap.

[@xyz3702]

Both gonna die anyway

[@kuzuridoto]

Upheaval too much

[@mariejuana2100]

No range

[@lamperouge7347]

Time to get humble secret fangays

[@noellumactod6303]

Yeah! They actually making fun on the team that they beat on twitter. Especially OG.

[@solomonthegreat290]

Noel Lumactod nah as an OG fan, I think it was actually funny, Secret memeing OG, OG and Secret are rivals in twitter and it entertains me, both in-game and online tweets, idc whoever wins I like their memes Nigma should also do memes in Twitter too

[@namaasliku8642]

@@solomonthegreat290 nah, nigma is too chill, they got kuro who actually wish the best for the enemy team, they got gh who is a happy person, they got miracle who actually is a chill person. that kind of thing doesn't fit them.

[@solomonthegreat290]

Nama Asliku It'll be fun if they're memeing both outside the game (like fb twitter, instagram, etc.) and inside the game(chatwheels, sprays, tipping, etc.)

[@waterunderthebridge2291]

Kuroky nightmare to Yapzor and then fiend grips Nisha is just awesome. This guy really is a top tier pos 5.

[@prathameshpandit4705]

That comeback

[@rda9694]

2:13 sounds like from a japanese anime fight scene. Sonikkkhh new chatwheel!!!!!

[@OldFellaD1S4]

Game 1 : dat is why we kick you matu for w33, meepo is still strong except u face og Game 2 : dat is why we choose miracle over u matum. I know in game 1 it is experimental draft from secret for matum. But still it is such awe for me look at mc qop. It is first time he play qop for good. Still cant forget how destroyed his qop against og and saksa. And meepo secure game 1. But one thing we should address here. Nigma dont throw anymore after he got such a huge lead. In some game there are a moment when nigma already dominate they game but they throw and secret know it for sure. Finally miracle got his confident again in game 2. He is not miracle everyone know in ti7. Now, he is over confident and throw in crucial moment dat is the real deal. Hope this gake lift his sense again. Mc and kuro is the real key for them to win. Because overall w33 and miracle can maintain their form. Mc barely play good when it come to secret and og. Kuro always outdrafted against both of them

[@ragnar8771]

thats not true, when they played at their best form everyone played good, mc is a sacrificial role same as w33, so sometimes they dont have the farm because they are giving miracle all the space, the 4 protec 1 combo,but yes when kuro drafts are on point nigma doesnt lose,always when kuro drafts bad its a free win for the other team,

[@ragnar8771]

dimas haris yea then they will trilane and miracle will be struggling, im only 4k and playing mostly carry but when i play in a trilane and they focus me to not farm haressing me non stop its horror.same happens to miracle thats what mc and w33 are doing when they feed, giving him space to farm exposing themselfs on lanes to get ganked and let miracle farm.

[@OldFellaD1S4]

@@ragnar8771 mc is sacrifial role ? It is clearly u never watch nigma full game. Mc always get space for farm. They always leave him farm alone. Especially when he plays qop necro. He is not like w33 who doesnt get space to farm. W33 need to create space to farm, he ganks other lane. Mc only cant farm in early.

[@akinaridate9233]

@@ragnar8771 kuro draft bad??, They try to play other style that why they lose,u really think kuroky and puppy is bad at drafting??,, Just see game they lose, they always force war, they dont care, they learn to play like OG maybe for some OG fans will trash nigma because they try to play like OG,but kuroky is smart he know his team limit for playing same strat that why he try to learn.. and in this game they show everything they learn again best team in the world.. just because they always lose people start to call nigma tier 3 team because they only see nigma lose they dont see nigma learning

[@jhdivina]

No, it's not experimental draft for matu. He played abbadon carry in other series before. Nigma also banned out his signature heroes too

[@luisangelcastillo501]

The last tobi commentary GG BOY

[@jonathanchan711]

Heh, only Nigma can make Secret look bad

[@behruz5231]

Last year's og?

[@namaasliku8642]

@@behruz5231 non existent last year OG?

[@Letsgopast6th]

Last month Unique 😂

[@jonathanchan711]

@@Letsgopast6th Haha, yeah, that's right, but I feel like we can say Nigma does it more consistently; Nigma literally denied them two back-to-back tournaments, WeSave and WePlay

[@enigma727]

secret have made nigma look bad many times

[@ajbalancedbreakfast8368]

I'm curious to what w33's Meepo winrate is. Dude just FUCKS on that hero

[@xdeus2705]

Nigma defeated everyone except OG, wp to them tho

[@loristnorton3723]

What do you expect running greaves luna hahaha XD

[@stefansanityy]

U know nothing boy gtfo here

[@lalalala-cs3tn]

And SECRET was shitting on anyone until this game, heck they were beating Nigma's ass for a while until yesterday lol

[@savinpermana2800]

15:33 nice Dodge combo kunkka with blink antimage by miracle

[@random_tube6014]

Miracle's am is too good 😍

[@idgaf3959]

the moment you cant find AM, means you have fuckedup the game

[@rananjai185]

NoobFromUA writing "Incredible/Insane" game is always the best giveaway of Nigma winning

[@hehehe3008]

Kuro draft be like "fck up man, i just want to ban our friends hero matum" and he did it. 2 times in a row same ban 🤣

[@tiararall4238]

2 games, 2 Signature hero, 2 GOD.

[@bsbs3055]

And got 3-0

[@tiararall4238]

@@bsbs3055 If you Fall you can't get the Highground. -Kuroky

[@AnacondaZ_TV]

Chat Wheel: Absolutely Perfect!

[@rizarts5536]

This is what u call "hyper carry" in dota2, 4 man roaming ealier game, keep backdoor, kill cou, n even feed enemy, but at the end, their Pos1 release, boooommmm.. i love it!!! #Game2

[@tnhan6380]

Riz Arts that not 4 man rooming man, its 4 man cut creep waves. Secret is rooming.

[@owaatNFT]

Mirak 15:33

[@Unkown0002]

Rock paper scissors: Nigma > Secret Secret > Og Og > Nigma

[@luongvu7235]

Miracle AM serious mode ON !

[@hujuanjia]

Nigma is the only team i have watched who can make so much space for AM, probably the only team in the past few months who uses AM actually

[@daudprambudi]

can someone kindly explain what kind of draft did secret use on game 1? those are bad on my understandings..

[@ezequielc7982]

"EveRyOne GanGstA UnTiL TeAm SeCrEt CaMe AlOng" pffftttt....

[@wheezy098]

Lol . . This comment 😂 ! The finals just got over

[@muhammadfauzhan1182]

So where r u now boy

[@ethribin4188]

Kuro is slowly figuring out hoe to pick for his team. Thank, God!

[@jgi5373]

13:33 zai throwing?

[@bunys2387]

Nigma-Secret-OG rivalry is too much fun to watch 👌

[@mankind2770]

Oh wow didn't see nigma's win is coming. Sure thought that secret would win - nobody after reading the title

[@joshuamanguix4861]

Now we're talking. I love this style where miracle and wee can swap from pos 1 or 2 carry. This makes them unpredictable in drafting. The supportish miracle in game 1 then the batrider of wee game 2. Not to mention team Secret is strong too in this season. Ggwp both teams!

[@lucyform4050]

Miracle AM always satisfying

[@ryaner7480]

Imagine Nigma vs secret vs Og in dota 3. If ever happen.

[@SubhojitB.]

4:52 what the fuck was that! You donate a dd to akasha? 😕

[@nxx.1313]

W33 Meepo and Miracle Anti Mage are doing it!

[@fauzirahman6433]

OG = agent Miracle in nigma Nigma = agent Matu in secret Secret = agent midOne in OG

[@dommahusay5791]

15:33 That dodge tho

[@ThereIsPowerInTheBloodOfJesus7]

Well. I've been a dota fan even before Beta. And every game casted by Tobi is INCREDIBLE.

[@EnjoyTheSilenc3]

Puppey got the "kill courier" guild contract.