NIGMA vs TNC - MINOR vs MAJOR Champions! - LEIPZIG MAJOR DreamLeague 13 DOTA 2

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NIGMA vs TNC - MINOR vs MAJOR Champions! - LEIPZIG MAJOR DreamLeague 13 DOTA 2
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[@sandhywinartja8662]

No matter what reason or situation it is so damn satisfying watching tnc lose lmaooooooooo

[@meatballs8642]

Because watching is the only thing you can do😂

[@mikechan31]

tnc is overhyped, they deserved to lose

[@dimasarsetyo26]

Im not a fan of nigma. But when nigma had a bad game. someone always said Tier 3 team. I just want to say, just enjoy the game without saying stupid things

[@tht1454]

Yup

@Young Lee u can't lol

[@kentbonhart4130]

@Young Lee what? Haha poor grammar

[@tarekjaber3142]

Footbal: Germany-Brazil 7-1 Dota2: Nigma-tnc 25-1 Sport memorials

[@zizouwowist1641]

weeha haters? miracle fangays? pionys? nigma haters? evry time nigma show you that ur analys comming from archon prespective kekw kuro tips weeha was a big response for ppls who ask to replace him even if he don't read ur comment

[@pimpXBT]

Yeah I was shocked seeing that Kuro tip

[@KYF347]

pignoy always trash talking their way to the airport 😄

[@ZephyroGame]

Nigma Vs Tnc Game 1 : TNC win Nigma : So you've chosen death

[@chanchan6734]

Zephyro Game what the heck. tnc choked game 2 and 3

[@vashj212]

Also Nigma has chosen death too

[@treblaalbert4391]

Nice decision Kuro by taking w33 in your team. Now i see why you needed someone like w33. GoGo Nigma!!!

[@Chinatsu_Kano]

I swear Kuro's chen is one of the most impressive chen you'll ever see..

[@jainamsanghavi7433]

Report mind control for dying in the last game.

[@christianwilyawan8810]

no one talks about how good w33's astral? he saved team while he was trying to kill enemy, woaw

[@rahulghosh5366]

I liked how w33haa played OD in game 2&3,instead going rambo he played it calm and patient

[@unnamedshadow1866]

This matchup makes you wonder who is truly the Major winner and who is the Minor winner.

[@Cuhsidy]

Didnt the peenoise talk so much shit after winning first game? where are they now LOOOOOOL

[@tengkualiff]

Back to working construction i suppose

[@noctiz31]

1st game nigma minor champ vs TNC major champ 2nd Liquid TI grandfinal vs TNC major champ 3rd game Liquid TI champ vs TNC major champ.

[@Fikrichiba12]

3rd game Liquid TI Champ vs TNC Tigers 🤭

[@anxiety8158]

Lower bracket kings vs Airport kings ...

[@kyrlchristianboni5263]

if that makes you sleep at night well, the okay

[@ammarkaren]

Kyrl Christian Boni i think you wont sleep well tonight then. Hats off

[@kyrlchristianboni5263]

@@ammarkaren yEaH I tHink I wOn'T. I'm CrYing RiGHt Now.

[@BronHater99]

This guy prolly havent even stepped on an airplane.... no an airport

[@blueatlas6744]

@@BronHater99 why so salty? Lol

[@tomkoo7696]

w33 is actually doing good

[@mikechan31]

everytime i saw tnc lose, i liked

[@oNeHanDGuN]

1st game : arrrggghhh nigma so bad.. probably coming back from lower bracket again 2nd game : hmmm nigma not too bad.. 3rd game : ok nigma is strong!

[@richardpaz5217]

GH was godly on that game 3. So on-point. Jesus.

[@muhymeenameen5809]

that 3rd game should be 25 - 0.... report mindcontrol for feeding 1 kill score to the opponent...

[@thisisurname6663]

KURO AND THE BOYS IS SO TIRED GOING TO LOWER BRACKET THEY'RE DONE EXPERIMENTING 🤣

[@zizouwowist1641]

you know what's going on i like it D

[@JaSoNZ16]

A Classic Team Liquid Beatdown! That’s the Nigma I want to see!

[@CurrentlyOffliner]

big NİGMA fan here im happy they won

[@AI-rx5mo]

@Stefhanify i bet you are only fans with the winning team

[@michaellie7401]

MindCOntrol feeding on game 3

[@MrSixxty13]

:D :D

yeah, what a shame

[@Byza6226]

Nigma always loses 1st game, its a good fortune RIP Ti9 finals

[@ichan3168]

Ooof game 3 was rough, i am not a fan of tnc, but it still hurts to see that in a major

[@alfisyahrisurya1167]

That gh tiny is so op, i think gh learn something from the previous TI 😂

[@senpaiokway8439]

As a TNC fan . I almost threw my phone while watching that game 3 .

[@anasredzwan1214]

Pinoy noob

[@adamrozali]

Well it's fair, they did nigma too during game 1. It's a revenge game, the way i see it

[@siddharthjoshi5264]

Poor pinoise..cry more.rage more play less..

[@stolengrilfriendclub8724]

How much you paid😀

[@josualahama]

tnc is shit

[@VinceAnimation]

MC feed on the 3rd game lol

[@ardanpermana9536]

1 death? really?

[@Fikrichiba12]

That's a joke, dude, take it easy

[@VinceAnimation]

@@ardanpermana9536 1 IQ spotted

[@JimboyGodoy]

Well he the only fed TNC 😂

[@jeanlenardangeles7977]

HAHAHAHA

[@druidzown]

25-1. never forget.

[@Jowy_]

W33 use OD Tnc fanboy: shit they are so desperate to win! Tnc use morph es gay combo Tnc fanboy: tnc are so good, deserve to be TI winner!

[@dailydota8741]

Classic pignoys Rofl 🤣🤣

[@wantanmi2268]

damn I wish they would read this

[@sei-1529]

OD need a nerf OD too strong, OD bla bla bla

[@luniiaaf285]

Ssssht, its fun to see both fangays arguing each other blaming everthing they can, especially when og fangays joining the fight. You dont have to drop facts to make them realise their own stupidity.

[@sayyedsohail9705]

That slark hurts more then a breakup miracle🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@intention2640]

I don't care even nigma win or lose, I'm always with nigma

[@bernardusyoga5936]

Yeahh boi

[@solomonthegreat290]

Im not Nigma fan, although I love Nigma and the players, but honestly speaking, I slowly not liking their gamestyle, I don't know about anyone, and you may 100% deny this because your hearts is on Nigma, but if you may notice Nigma keeps playing the same strats and gamestyle over and over again

@@solomonthegreat290 because it's turney duh, they use their best strat eveeytime possible.

[@solomonthegreat290]

reara res yeah, I dont blame you Nigma is more on playing to win rather than playing for fun, I admire a team who plays to win too, because they are dedicated for their achievments but I love a team who plays for fun because on what I see they admire more on the love of the game

[@lunl164]

Game 2 and Game 3, w33 perform very well

[@dinospd]

Wow! I was really surprised when I saw 2 stomps after game 1.

[@Jer0nMr]

no more kick w33 or w33 is so bad comments? wonder why? oh...yes, there is also the tier 2 team comment

[@user-hg5bo1mn3g]

@Raphael Portela and invite u for tier 1000 team

[@Jer0nMr]

@Raphael Portela *let me go all the way down to your herald-brain level* *hm...can't. you won :))))*

[@Crozein]

@Raphael Portela imagine 2k pretend to be 5.8k lol

[@Jer0nMr]

@Raphael Portela u top 1000?

[@YY-mk4ti]

OD with aghs damn. WP w33

[@shermanleeyh]

He really mastered that aghs which I haven’t seen other guys do

[@arcticfoxes8034]

@@shermanleeyh did you watch literally any other od game?

[@Ardelin2]

Man, TNC was totally outdrafted at the 2nd and 3rd game. Nice drafting by Kuroky

[@NaziraKarimi4President]

and outplayed

[@hamdiputeh7664]

pignoy are noob

[@musyaffaazka]

Report Mind Control for feeding on game 3. smh.

[@whitecatssss]

that's called space created ok ?

[@bbbet5896]

ye tnc is lucky cuz they did kill against nigma

[@tengkualiff]

^idiots who dont get the joke

[@sniperpalsu3533]

Haha, she is joking guys, smh

[@christofsander5290]

Irony jokes vs. the internet round 1337m.

[@MariO-mh5vw]

w33 + miracle = ♡♡

[@hongsethya4932]

MariO that sound like gay

[@andreirazvan6783]

What a great day to be a nigma fan

[@adelaidecorpuz2077]

Andrei Belu yeah. Tnc trash

[@muhymeenameen5809]

W33 OD is like a god tier OD.... Kuro abused OD so much when they needed a win...dont know why TNC not banning it after got destroyed so hard in 2nd game

[@xekodota2627]

No one except Kuro pick OD at turn 2 pick. First 2 ban must for Gh pos 4 not pos 2 like W33

[@muhymeenameen5809]

@@xekodota2627 that OD gave so much impacts on game 2 & 3... gives Gh any post 4 hero he still perform it...

[@sleepwell3747]

Agree, his OD is like 100% WR in minor, kinda surprised TNC didn't realize that... w33 can't play all but certain heroes are amazing in his hands.

[@BD-od5ys]

OD was mvp in both matches🙏what a great play by od

[@xekodota2627]

I think tnc assume gh is more impact than w33. But w33 od is too much impact in game 3. Otherwise, their huskar is easy to shutdown OD in early if TNC success in snowball strategy. But the game is not as they plan to. Kuro Chen cause many trouble to Top lane. So nigma ruins tnc plan.

[@himurakenshin7758]

So happy for w33 he had good series, like finally man 😂 .. now he adding OD to his pool now need 1 more heroes for him, so the enemy team would confusing again to draft against nigma.

[@muhamadramdhan9389]

His astral escape safe nigma... Like million times!!

[@himurakenshin7758]

@@muhamadramdhan9389 true, game 2 and game 3 he was killin it kinda surprised tho that he was more discipline right now not diving like w33tard as usual lul ... hope he keep it up

[@wa2n386]

Shit, nigma made tnc to a bigger joke than they already are..

[@SirPeterKozlov]

OD Aghs is fucking broken...

[@justaman6]

Cancer strat kkkkk literally deleted huskar during every single team fight.

[@sniperpalsu3533]

Od agh is already for so long, only weeha can use so perfectly. Haha

[@luckyikramalfathany4136]

@@sniperpalsu3533 wow only w33? Seriously? Just stfu baby

[@fourtwo42kochiro]

@lucky he talk about this game.

[@alexanderinteriano8134]

That Purge creep carried the game

[@gardnerfrost2198]

4:59 "that's a dead dog" XD

[@agustinusagungpradiptawibo2754]

After W33 spam windranger, now he will spam OD.

[@joaopc94]

kuroki was the true MVP that third game draft was just sad, nigma outdrafted them so hard

[@8bitgaming590]

W33 is improving. He's playing with the team now unlike the past tournaments that he's playing like a mad man going berserk.

[@faisalambiya6459]

Improving, but not significant, I'd say 10%

[@carlcarlson3198]

@@faisalambiya6459 that's a lot, make it 8% and we have a deal

[@600mhelmisodiq7]

U made my day

[@MrZlord23]

Old liquid and now Nigma both always played 4 protect one for Miracle. If miracle pops off they win easy and matu and w33 just play to make space and die for him so they dont get much credit. But w33 is a good mid he can stand alongside the best and hold his own. You all only judge from if they win or lose. Even if w33 was 20-0 and Nigma were losing you'd blame him. Leave my poor guy alone.

[@im4mthedarkness]

@@carlcarlson3198 seems like 7-9% but it's ok

[@ochirjamia]

Damn I swear to god GH is number 1 pos4 in the world

[@lukmanhakim289]

jerax say hi

[@aneeshmenon5885]

One of the best PLAYERS in the world period

[@ochirjamia]

Lukman Hakim yes jerax is up there as well. But one of them should be top1 so Im choosing Gh 🤷‍♂️😂

[@lukmanhakim289]

@@ochirjamia hahaha well indeed one of the best right now

[@HerrMannelig9696]

@@ochirjamia Have you ever seen fy, jerax, yapzor? They are more versatile pos 4 players, gh lacks offensive capabilities at such heights.

[@pwhypiano]

Dude, last night i was like, i will sleep cause i cant stand saw twitch chat at game 1 toxic af, when nigma just starting to play bad, and now i wake up and watching a comeback 2 game set str8 wins, FeelsGoodMan

[@qweasd-lm3kc]

lu tidur jam 8?

@@qweasd-lm3kc hhhha

[@pwhypiano]

@@qweasd-lm3kc biasanya jam stengah 7 juga udah tidur gw.

[@malehh5088]

@@pwhypiano enak ya, gua iri sama lu cuk bisa tidur cepet :(

[@pwhypiano]

@@malehh5088 makanya kerja, pulang kerja capek, mandi langsung tidur. Gitu aja ampe hari jumat, sabtu minggu nya puas2in maen.

[@satayuisariyaphorn368]

Im amazed how W33ha played so well lmfao

[@SCHRANZOPHRENIC69]

Game 1 was a gift for peenoises rofl

[@cajesjourney4611]

haha

[@sonniyu7770]

Honestly. Its w33's OD.

[@blowtil]

I had my doubts after game 1. How dare of me to not believe :D. GO NIGMA GO!

[@abhibiswal9161]

Wait bitch. OG coming soon

[@riandinp]

@@abhibiswal9161 like this one,he cheers og only because they already won 2TI. Im not sure if he's og fangay before ti9 XD

[@abhibiswal9161]

@@riandinp I supported OG from when they had miracle and notail. Stop being toxic.

[@riandinp]

@@abhibiswal9161 sorry,i didnt mean to be toxic. But im still not sure

[@abhibiswal9161]

@@riandinp It's okay my friend. If it makes you happy that I am a fake OG fan and if it makes your day ! You can call me that.

[@shintravel]

Finally nobody blames w33

[@pewwwwooop]

I do w33 picked windranger game 1 useless doggo hero pls Report

[@zizouwowist1641]

but no one give him credit at all underated as always

[@michaeldavid1566]

Well they did blame MC for the 1 death kn game 3

[@zizouwowist1641]

@@michaeldavid1566 nah dude it's was sarcasm x)

[@gnolihz]

@@pewwwwooop no one blame miracle and mc which are pretty useless too in game 1. Haters??

[@febriyanarya]

Minor vs Major i think the title little bit sarcasm :v

[@WinterSnowism]

@10:25 That disciplined play by Nigma

[@bayumahendra1797]

After game 2 i look at the time Knowing its only 5 min it would be one side victory and thats goes to nigma

[@rapvaldez4426]

THAT 1-25 IS SO EMBARASSING! 😲

[@sultanalnoori3844]

that last game was hard to watch if u were a TNC fan.

[@vashj212]

Yep.

[@frostedfate7154]

HahahahahahPinoy spotted

[@princesilla7311]

atleast they try.

[@candrafery8037]

Damn, we need toby to cast in major.. its so hype wherever toby is,,

[@daienkai182]

Classic kuro strategy, lose on first game, analyze, and won the second and third game Good job nigma

[@yudadicki7764]

Is it just me or GH and MC has improved a lot since last TI?

[@solomonthegreat290]

Grate on Nigma but Gabbi's on sf? he's doing new pools that's actually good to see, I like it when players do new things, like Topson do mid-Espirit or mid-Tide, or Nisha/ana doing IO I'll be hoping to see Nigma vs Secret thou, although I hope Nigma will pull out some new things, cuz I always see them on the same strats all over again, Miracle on Ember,PL,LS,Alche & w33 on OD,TA,WR,Ursa

[@yudhanugraha6956]

They need to qualified first to ti10 but hopefully they will try a new strat like kuro did before ti 9

[@thebubblegum5175]

u cant say nigma and secret same strats all over again, nigma change. bfr this strats ,old nigma(liquid ) use push strats like veno,np,lesrach they change bcs now nigma have w33ha , w33ha cant use hero like matu. he different that old strats not work to w33ha. i like nigma now bcs they make new things bcs they read the patch and learn a hero meta now, like slark, od,omni,ursa. so if u ask why they always pick wr,pl,ta,or ursa and more bcs they win use that strats.

[@solomonthegreat290]

the bubblegum exactly why I say they keep dong that strat, every hero you just said are from Metas, what I am referinf NEW means they actually play different heroes and strategizing along with that new hero, take for example on OG when ana wants IO, or Topias wants Earth Spirit, and the whole OG squads just adapt along with ana's Io, or Topias's ES, you see that to me is NEW, or like when this time Gabbi uses SF, Gabbi may use SF in pubs, but they actually made a new strat along with Gabbi's SF, you never see Gabbi uses SF before even during his mid-play times I want to see Nigma do new heroes or do new things, I always see them on the best drafts with the same heroes Nigma is actually one of the best team but I have never seen them do special things, all I see best in them is Miracle's flashy things or w33's best performance in mid, but I never heard of a phrase like "Miracle Gyro-Diffusal" or "w33 IO-Carry" or "Miracle on Dazzle Mid?" Also I am only refering to Nigma I have already seen Secret do new things despite the new Players

[@eldonreynard9649]

does a proplayer still tp infront of disruptor ? 2:47

[@faiezyacob2854]

After game 1 peenoise fan be like: omg tnc is so good we will 2-0 against nigma After game 3 peenoise fan be like: "No morph + shaker combo, no win" - TNC, 2019

[@christophersartin2490]

That slark contradict that abadon, more life more stats

[@Samuel-pk4wz]

with OD too

[@MohitRajpurohit17]

Gh God Lovers hit Like

[@mikewarriorEC]

The sad truth, SEA doto was winning because the big dogs were on holidays. I can see clearly the gap between regions now.

[@Megatherionmms]

i see peenoise lose i press like

[@tengkualiff]

Same

[@jovpal5685]

game 3 Nigma went with Chen and OMNI not even the drow + huskar damage matters at this point the sustain was absurd

[@akushon_kamen]

yes. tnc outpicked

[@loristnorton3723]

Dr storm better than husk DR this draft.

[@bryancapino7332]

Not really a huge fan of tnc but its fine to lose. TNC won a major already. They still have enough time for the upcoming TI. Too many changes and new teams were created. Practice and experience will not make everyone perfect but surely will make everyone better. 💪👌

[@hamdiputeh7664]

noob pignoy

[@takuyamishima8]

Tang ina mo pignoy ka

[@genewisco2726]

haha.. Just watched Nigma vs BeastCoast. and guess what?? Lower Bracket Strat is REAL baby!! Nigma was eliminated. The strat is if your chance to win upper bracket is 50% then go to the lower bracket, yaan mo silang maglaban laban sa upper.. hahaha. nice move TNC. manalo matalo TNC paren!

[@bryancapino7332]

@@genewisco2726 hahaha seems like nigma is not that ready yet. 🤣😂

[@hamdiputeh7664]

what about now pignoy? told u pignoy never gonna win..stupid noob

[@badgoodguy2456]

11:11 fail timing OMEGALUL

[@ashlike270]

I like how TNC plays but they need more training and sync with their new coach. Also, WP Nigma showing people that they're tier 1 in all aspects.

[@adelaidecorpuz2077]

Stephen Paul they need to disband. Such a weak team cant win a championship

[@rhamseykimisma4817]

Dave Jmerson youre a shit thinker

[@Leeno_12345]

lol. im a nigma fan but you gotta respect all teams and especially tnc they won major first time in sea region

[@ashlike270]

Dave Jmerson bruhh give it time you're so savage hahaha

[@ammarkaren]

Nigma can give 1 kill to Tnc and MC lost the rock paper scissors. Mentally done.

[@Vsaintrowx]

Put sf on side lane...very nice pig noise

[@jrgl1191]

In Nigma we trust

[@jcacef]

that game 3 is painful to watch

[@TheRealTokesalot]

Why did they let wee have OD twice in a row? That's his best hero this patch by far.

[@kinky48]

why didnt they ban od. he literally was like 70% why the lost game 2

[@BCJacobe]

kinky48 ikr they didn’t ban OD or Tiny, just makes fighting them impossible

[@WinterSnowism]

Confidence!

[@solomonthegreat290]

the same why Liquid(now Nigma) did not ban IO or Tiny

[@kentbonhart4130]

And 100% why they lost in game 3

[@siewyongli1055]

jesus christ this patch, how many fucking astral does that od have

[@hola_tristia]

Only 2..

[@farrel_ra]

2 charge

[@heerooz13ms]

W33ha has an amazing timing to those Astrals, no one will understand in pub, usually the OD will be flamed for playing that way

[@limpeh845]

Ez pinoy pride 25-1

[@ArifDarmawan]

Armel tipping miracle. What a joke. TNC only trash talking when in win condition. LOL

[@fadhlirahman5862]

Timestamp ?

[@ArifDarmawan]

@@fadhlirahman5862 Not here bro, watch replay at early game 2. He tip for wrecked miracle LS.

[@anggrungsyahrulromadhoni6716]

*me scrolling through the comments : Let's see what the pros say

[@cancerlife7363]

3rd game still not ban od

[@wantanmi2268]

they focus on banning Miracle hero lol

[@ikmaljabilin3855]

If u see Venge..it must be febby strats..haha

[@rudeguyjayce]

damn, TNC just got slaughtered. GG

[@unknownbeing7750]

Bro that OD tho, can't wait for Od tri hards in pub

[@AltairSky]

OD agha is seriously Op

[@arif1024]

Game 1 mode nigma, Game 2&3 mode liquid on.

[@ramsez_r]

Nice OD saves + defensive toss

[@2tangosor2mid98]

MC was really good on game 3, he was trying not to feed. If omni was SEA player, he will blame everyone and half of animals on zoo will come out from his mouth.

[@reynaldooktavian]

Bacod kid

[@abednegosteven-4423]

@@reynaldooktavian shut up reynaldo sinagay

[@phlocals4299]

Win or Lose . Still a true fan. Agree?

[@suhardilasusetya5756]

Dpc point is just a number :(

[@joachimbikas880]

Tnc played amazing but nigma got angry and played seriously.

[@screwdriver1817]

lol tnc just noob

[@Jose-yy5xr]

No you are really fucking noob

[@solomonthegreat290]

Fuck Me Weebs don't tell me you're a Nigma fan? cuz all of u reply like that

[@bedshaker9512]

TNSHIT played well. Where? When? Are u fucking serious?

[@sweetwasabi322]

1-25 is amazing for you? How low is your expectations for them? Getting one kill a game is amazing now guys

[@muhammadadibnorudin291]

NOW WHEN NIGMA WIN..THEY LOVE WEEHAA...IF LOSE KICK HIM....LOL...FANGAYS

[@santilanaknows5308]

W33 is decent but would still trade him anyday for sumail/midone/noone

[@vgnsale]

I dont think sumail suits in nigmas line up.. like what sumail-arteezy duo achieve when they play together, miracle is the kinda player you want to shrine cuz u play around him and you know he will carry you, I dont think sumails offers that.. cuz he's like arteezy(both wants their teams making sure they get a great game), w33 isnt maybe in his best shape but he is clearly what nigma needs to play in this level, 2 finals and 1 minor since w33 come

[@Jer0nMr]

@@vgnsale exactly. I think kuro knew what he was doing. He could have kicked w33 after leaving liquid, but he doesn't need 'star' players like sumail. He needs humble players that do what's right for the team.

[@muhammadrazi8232]

when miracle pick slark auto gg

[@lahtwizzyzzz9669]

TNSHIT IS DOING IT HAHAHAH!!!

[@muhammadadibnorudin291]

NOW MY OLD LIQUID HV BEEN UNLEASHED.....GO NIGMA!!!!